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"Drive" Cancelled?!?

Ah, "Drive", we hardly knew ye...

According to several reports, the new FOX drama "Drive" has been cancelled after only two weeks. Yup - "Drive" received a 'generous' four episodes (over an eight day span) to prove itself. I despise FOX executives.

I know the ratings were subpar. FOX is in love with that 'two hour debut on a Sunday, followed up with a new episode on Monday' premiere schedule. I think it is a handicap for a new show, since most people will assume that the show will continue on Sunday and, thus, miss the Monday episode. Maybe I'm off base here, but scheduling counts, especially for a midseason replacement.

Here is a cancellation justification from a Hollywood Reporter article.

..."Drive" didn't click with viewers from the start, and in its two low-rated airings on Monday seem to have hurt its leadout, veteran "24," which this week posted its lowest adults 18-49 rating for an original episode in more than three years.

Now, I have to call BS on that logic. Maybe, just maybe, "24" was hurt by the debut of a brand new "Heroes" episode, coupled with the inexplicable phenomenon of "Dancing With The Stars"? That seems more likely than "Drive" scaring away potential "24" viewers...unless, FOX had a 15 million viewer expectation for "Drive", which would have been completely unrealistic for a midseason replacement.

I feel for Tim Minear. He continues to produce quality shows, and the networks (especially FOX) continue to cancel them. Here's hoping Tim's next venture is on HBO!



I feel bad for Nathan Fillion, too. Man does that guy deserve a break. He's consistently great in everything he does. Joss needs to get back to TV and give Nathan another job.

And you're dead on with the BS "24" correlation. Perhaps the downturn has something to do with the sub-par season "24" is current mired in. That "Rainman" episode was on par with Kim and the cougar.

-- Posted by: mac at April 26, 2007 7:56 PM

Hey tell it to the Firefly fans...

-- Posted by: J. at April 26, 2007 8:19 PM

Nathan, at least, has that budding movie career to fall back on. He is *so* good as a lead...

Hey J! - FOX record is pretty abysmal, isn't it? Poor Nathan and Tim M. both worked on Firefly...I'd be very afraid if I were a FOX exec and I met up with either of those two guys in an elevator.

-- Posted by: fred at April 27, 2007 3:35 PM

haha Mac are you making fun of my Rainman reference??

I am as unhappy with the FOX execs as you are Fred. I personally enjoyed the show Drive, and I love Nathan.

Joss come back to TV!!!

-- Posted by: Stacey at April 28, 2007 9:33 PM

I too liked drive and will miss it,24 is done with me,when they shifted the story in the middle,end the nukes,now its save Audrey,what next Jacks daughter,Hero's is way better than this season of 24

-- Posted by: bigdogjoe at April 30, 2007 1:22 PM

DAMMIT!I was really getting into that show and it was just starting to pick up. Nathan Fillion rocked too. WTF is with networks not giving new shows a chance?

Come people, they wanted to cancel "Star Trek" and then the fans saved it, look at how long that went on. Fans have to let FOX no how much they disagree with their choice to cancel.

-- Posted by: Jack at April 30, 2007 6:17 PM

fans don't matter anymore in this day and age, FOX doesn't care. If they did, they wouldn't cancel a show after 4 episodes. 4 EPISODES! Idiots...

-- Posted by: brad at April 30, 2007 8:18 PM

Through all the crap thats on the tele, Drive was the only show that i waited for. But ohh well, much like firefly, i guess i'll wait untill it comes out on DVD to see whhat happened. (that is of course if they release it?) Who Knows.

-- Posted by: Jim at April 30, 2007 8:18 PM

I can't believe that Fox has cancelled"Drive."They leave shows like "Simpsons","King of the Hill",and shows like that on,and cancel shows like "Drive"and real people shows.That was a really show.Why does Fox do that?I was beginning to really like Fox shows,but I don't really know now.it was a very good show.I wish some other network will pick this show up,because Fox never gave a shot.And then that network can reap the rewards.Just give it a chance and then decide to keep it on or not.i am really disgusted with Fox right now!!

-- Posted by: Howard Carroll at April 30, 2007 8:18 PM

I can't believe Fox has cancelled the show"Drive."It was one of the great new shows on TV.Fox was beginning to be my favorite network.Please don't cancel the show.Just give a shot!Please if Fox cancels it,I hope another network picks it up!It is a "Great Show!"Just give a chance.

-- Posted by: Howard Carroll at April 30, 2007 8:24 PM

Very sad to see 'Drive' cancelled so quickly ... was looking forward to watching it tonight... and BOOM its not there!!! Maybe some else will pick it up ... FOX has to be made up of the biggest idiots on the planet.

-- Posted by: James at April 30, 2007 8:38 PM

Gaaawwwwwwd! This pi$$es me off!!! I loved the show and it was just starting to relly get good! I won't let my kids watch 24 because it's on too late, so I let them start watching Drive. They are very disappointed, as am I.

24 sucks this season. I am done with FOX.

-- Posted by: Jason at April 30, 2007 8:41 PM

FOX is ridiculous. They had one good show going. ONE. And they cancelled it after FOUR EPISODES?! I was really starting to get into it. I am EXTREMELY disappointed with FOX. Guess what? You're not the only station with Family Guy, King of the Hill, Simpsons...what else have you got going for you?

-- Posted by: Eric at April 30, 2007 9:40 PM

What is wrong with exceutives not giving shows a chance. Its mid season on all other shows, you throw "Drive" right in the middle what do you expect, of course ratings will be low, that is practicly a given with any mid-season new arrival. This show is a very good show and was barely getting a fan base, so leave it ON!! and stop reairing House before you kill that show too.

-- Posted by: Miguel c. at April 30, 2007 9:47 PM

How can the execs at Fox be this stupid? They finally get a show that has a plot and actual writers and they give it four episodes. Do they really think that we just want to watch cartoons and reality shows. I don't watch either. I like a show that takes a while for the plot to unfold. Something that makes you use your brain. I'm seriously pissed at fox...4 EPISODES !!!!! These are the same people that cancelled John Doe and Firefly. I mean seriously, you cancel Firefly and then put on Wife Swap. WTF are you guys smokin'????

-- Posted by: Barry Conner at April 30, 2007 10:53 PM

Oh my goodness. I loved that show ever since the beginning!!! Its not fair. I am so up set that they cancelled DRIVE.sigh, i mean i looked forward to mondays because of that show, now its gone. I mean come on whats next!!!

-- Posted by: lucy at April 30, 2007 11:21 PM

What the FOX executives have failed to realise is that the reputation they have for cancelling shows early is a self perpetuating one. As follows:

1: (Viewer) A new show! cool! on FOX? Never mind, I'm not watching that until I know its not going to be cancelled quickly.

2: (FOX executive) This show has poor ratings. We must cancel it immediately.

Continue ad infinitum.

That is why fox suck.

-- Posted by: Tom Hamilton at May 1, 2007 1:02 AM

I don't think there is another show I watch on FOX. With Drive, I figured I would give it a chance and I was hooked after the first episode. I was slightly surprised that the pilot had the same effect on my wife. I really don't see how FOX was able to make this determination so quickly. I would say that it is like getting married and then, a week later, saying, 'it will never work out'. Seems like the networks should let a show run at least one season. I think it probably takes that long to get a decent following. Of course I still feel they really made a mistake (to put it lightly) when they cancelled Firefly. I wonder if the same idiots made this decision, or if they just went though the same training program at FOX.

-- Posted by: Daxamundo at May 1, 2007 1:21 AM

What on earth are they thinking over there at FOX? How is a brand new show supposed to gain any kind of following in just eight days?!?! If they are really concerned about the impact it had on "24," then I think they definetely made the wrong decision. I've been a devoted watcher of "24" for the last several seasons, but lately it has become tiring and repetitive. I probably would have stopped watching it earlier, except that it was something to do after "Prison Break," but that show is starting to stretch its plotline a little thin as well. Along came "Drive," and I had a reason to stick around for awhile, but now that that's over, I may just give Jack Bauer a much needed rest. Oh, and "House?" As much as I love Hugh Laurie, that show has such an obvious and repeated plot formula that every episode feels like the last and the show lost all appeal long ago. As far as I'm concerned, "Drive" was FOX's chance to breathe some new life into their evening programming, and they blew it.

-- Posted by: Jeff at May 1, 2007 6:14 AM

ACK... I started watching the show because I figured it would have some good car action, but was surprised it had a decent plot and likable characters. Even my wife got into when initially she though wasn't interested AT ALL. Then we ended up watching the show over 2 nights (yes, I rarely watch shows when they are actually on thanks to torrents). When I went to get the next episode I was confused why I couldn't find it anywhere. Now I know why...

-- Posted by: Tim at May 1, 2007 9:48 AM

The ultimate consequence of the FOX shortsightedenss is that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. FOX launches a new series but many potential viewers will be wary of watching because if they get interested and the numbers are poor it gets pulled -- so they don't watch,the numbers are low and it gets pulled!! I really enjoyed DRIVE; like many I'm a Nathan Fillion fan -- but will I start watching a new FOX series in the future?? Most likely not because I'm tired of getting into a series and then having it cancelled.

-- Posted by: Franco Pessari at May 1, 2007 11:09 AM

I am so mad that they cancelled DRIVE I loved that show and was really getting into it. I wonder if they will ever play it again I wanna see what happens to everyone.

-- Posted by: Brittany at May 1, 2007 12:02 PM

Hey all - I know these rarely work, but there is an online petition to sign to 'save' Drive.

http://www.petitiononline.com/drivenow/petition.html

I was signature 3582!

-- Posted by: fred at May 1, 2007 3:19 PM

I've posted a bulletin on Myspace.com and the car forum I'm on. Help spread the word on forums you frequent.

-- Posted by: Ron Hammers at May 1, 2007 5:37 PM

I've posted a bulletin on Myspace.com and the car forum I'm on. Help spread the word on forums you frequent.

-- Posted by: Ron Hammers at May 1, 2007 5:37 PM

I posted bulletins on Myspace and the car forums I go to. Help spread the word on forums you frequent. It doesn't hurt to try.

-- Posted by: Ron Hammers at May 1, 2007 5:39 PM

I think everyone who commented on this page including me should all kill theirselves and leave a little note that FOX is to blame for all this

P.S.
I HATE 24

-- Posted by: nathan at May 1, 2007 6:59 PM

nathan that is a brilliant idea! and i would so do that if i didnt want so badly to live to see if drive ever returns to another station.. wats up with that though.. episodes are getting intense.. you get to LOVE all the characters and then wabaam!! fox has to be a bunch of efffwits and cancel. unbelievable. thats all i can say.

-- Posted by: Leanne at May 2, 2007 12:14 AM

Ron,that is a brilliant idea! And i would so do that if i didnt want so badly to live to see if drive ever returns to another station.. Whats up with that though.. Episodes are getting intense.. You get to LOVE all the characters and then wabaam!! Fox has to be a bunch of efffwits and cancel. Unbelievable. Thats all i can say.

-- Posted by: Leanne at May 2, 2007 12:15 AM

sorry for posting twice.. i had nathan fillion on the mind.

-- Posted by: Leanne at May 2, 2007 12:27 AM

Fox needs to take a lesson from the SciFi Channel, of all people! "Battlestar Galactica" has had poor ratings consistently, but it's the best show that channel has and is one of the best on TV period!

Ditto on the "Fox is run by morons." I'm signing the petition and, when I have time, maybe venting on an angry letter. Unfortunately, it's probably true that they won't reverse themselves. They can't, lest they prove how incompetent they are!

-- Posted by: Ed Brock at May 2, 2007 1:34 PM

dude i really liked drive... i cant believe they cancelled it...

-- Posted by: jake at May 2, 2007 1:54 PM

they should just make a movie of drive.. a very condensed version.. maybe less characters .. that would make me a little happier.

-- Posted by: Leanne at May 2, 2007 6:03 PM

This is a problem. Fox? Hello? 9 days? 3 nights? 4 episodes?

Other networks build up powerhouses by leaving them on the air, over a long time, in the same time slot. Anyone remember what the ratings were for the first four episodes of Law and Order? How many Emmy awards would NBC have missed out on if The West Wing would have been held to such standards?

And your big plan, even though you have more episodes in the can, is RERUNS of House?

Well, you've done this to enough shows I cared about. This is the last straw. You're the worst culprit in the game of hit and run the networks play. I'm not going to let myself get excited or interested in another Fox program launch, because you've demonstrated you won't support them. I'm done with 24. I'm no longer watching Idol. I'm quiting Family Guy, Simpsons and King of the Hill. Sorry, Fox, but I won't be sucker punched again.

The are a lot of other nice, well-behaved networks out there to watch. Bye.

-- Posted by: Blanetalk at May 6, 2007 3:38 AM

Has anyone ever seen Dogma where Matt Dillon walks into that exec room with all the execs and kills them all for that stupid character people were worshiping? Anyways someone should do that to them for the sin of playing God. It's his just to giveth and taketh. Not there's! lol

-- Posted by: Kyle at May 6, 2007 7:53 PM

FOX is ridiculous. They had one good show going. ONE. And they cancelled it after FOUR EPISODES?! I was really starting to get into it. I am EXTREMELY disappointed with FOX. Guess what? You're not the only station with Family Guy, King of the Hill, Simpsons...what else have you got going for you?


uhhh.....lets count the good shows....
1.) American Idol (most watched show ever)
2.) Are you smarter than a 5th grader
3.) House
4.) 24
5.) Simpsons
6.) Family Guy
7.) King of the Hill
8.) Cops
9.) Americas Most Wanted
10.) So you think you can dance
11.) The OC

Your point doesn't hold any weight.

-- Posted by: Greg at May 7, 2007 1:50 PM

I was very disappointed when fox canned a show that i was starting to get very interested in. With every checkpoint, every new event, the show was becoming more and more interesting to me. Ive signed the petition and am planning on posting multiple bulletines on myspace, letting others sign the petition, so the show could possibly come back on if not on fox then maybe another network will grab it up.

-- Posted by: Alex at May 7, 2007 5:30 PM

Greg...not that I need to defend Eric or anything...but, you listed 'Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader', 'Cops', and 'So You Think You Can Dance" as *GOOD* shows. And, 'The OC' is cancelled (besides being awful).

I think the point is that 'Drive' was already at least as good as any show on that list and had the potential to be better. But, it was not given a chance...and that's why we are all upset.

-- Posted by: fred at May 8, 2007 12:48 PM

i think the problem is that they started the show at a terrible time... so everyones been watching other shows that have already been on since.. september or whenever... and then here comes drive.. in april...

-- Posted by: leanne at May 8, 2007 6:20 PM

OMG! I finally decide to sit down to watch a good show from the beginning and it disappears? I missed House from the beginning and Prison Break and had to catch up. I finally decide to watch a show from the beginning and they cancel it just like other great shows. FOX is the only network I've had issues with when it comes to cancellations. They need to 'cancel' some of their execs is what they need to do. I mean no even a chance! And during Deal or No Deal -What they expect? C'mon.

-- Posted by: Kai at May 10, 2007 8:05 PM

Drive was a stupid show with a dumb premise. People have little time to waist these days. Who is going to spend an hour watching a show with such a cookie idea.

-- Posted by: Jay at May 11, 2007 2:55 PM

Drive was and is an excellent show. Thus far, I have been heavily disappointed by NBC and FOX. Recently, I got hooked on the Black Donnelly's and boom "cancelled"! What do you expect out of a show that is on at 10 following 24 on a different channel. And now FOX rips DRIVE. The networks are complete idiots.
Furthermore, I am tired of watching the reality crap, and the game show phenomenom is getting old.

To hell with the networks.

-- Posted by: Justin at May 13, 2007 8:55 PM

yea its like no one likes some good solid tv shows with intricate plots..theres a reality show for everything now.. the old ones are good but its getting lame!! they should make one called americas worst network..

-- Posted by: leanne at May 14, 2007 12:32 AM

My teenage son & I miss "Drive". It was something we had to enjoy TOGETHER. We actually spent time in the same room engaged in conversation. Now, he's back to the video games. Thanks Fox!

-- Posted by: sheffie at May 16, 2007 11:09 PM

My teenage son & I miss "Drive". It was something we had to enjoy TOGETHER. We actually spent time in the same room engaged in conversation. Now, he's back to the video games. Thanks Fox!

-- Posted by: sheffie at May 16, 2007 11:10 PM

"Drive" was crap guys. I live in California where this was filmed.

Guys, it was so terrible they used the same 2 mile strip of a brand new freeway (210) being constructed.

You would see the same freeway in the background over and over again like the FlintStones or something.

You out of California peeps wouldn't knwo the differente.

To make matters worse, they would actually portray Florida and other States using that same California strip of Freeway that has yet to be opened.

California shrubbery, freeway and skies.

Over and over again.

So lousy.

Todd

-- Posted by: Tood b at June 22, 2007 11:19 AM

Todd, What a ridiculous comment. They had to use sets? They didn't close down actual freeways in multiple states to film their first few episodes? Are you familiar with ... anything? Yikes.

-- Posted by: Andrew at July 22, 2007 4:44 PM

wtf Tood...why did you even comment that incoherent piece of crap. Drive was a great show that didn't get its 'drive' for success because of Fox's lousy execs. Tim Minear probably has some enemies in Fox that are out to get him. I feel sorry for Tim and Nathan, i hope some day they make it big.
Fox - ha never again!

-- Posted by: killed a fox exec at July 23, 2007 4:52 AM

Clearly Jay you should not waste your time learning the English language.

-- Posted by: Sean at September 15, 2007 4:38 PM