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Key Points from "Numbers"

Season 1, Episode 18
Episode Air Date: 03/02/05

Point 1
Hurley 4  8  15  16  23  42

Remember these numbers. They're going to have short-term and long-term importance because they're woven into Hurley's story, crazy Danielle Rousseau's story and perhaps even the island's story.

What do they mean? Where did they come from? Why are we suddenly asked to remember a seemingly random series of digits?

I have not friggin' clue. But the story surrounding these numbers sure was fun. So here's what happened:

Remember way back at the beginning of the season when we first met Hurley? He was a wisecracking, dude-spouting side character that seemed to exist solely for comedic relief and golf tournaments. He was a bit player at best; a non-entity that could be offed at any moment with limited repercussions. Well, not anymore.

Hurley's arrival on the island may have been in destiny's cards (well, in destiny's numbers, but we'll get to that), and his backstory shows how all the intricate threads came together. His flashback sequence begins a few years back. He's a rotund fast-food employee living in his mother's house, wasting his youth while expanding his girth. One Saturday night, while camped in front of his mother's television, he tunes into the lottery results as he clutches a lotto ticket.

4 ... 8 ... 15 ... 16 ... 23 ... and the bonus ball ... 42!

In an instant, Hurley rockets through 15 tax brackets. He didn't just win the lottery, he won a record jackpot: millions and millions and millions of dollars. Hurley and his family are set for life. Or so it would seem ...

The next day the media catch wind of Hurley's good fortune and arrive at his doorstep for a comment from the lucky winner. Hurley rattles off his intentions -- take care of his family, buy his mom a house and, in particular, give his hard-working grandfather some well-earned time off. His exact words: "The first thing I'm going to do with the money is finally give him the rest that he's earned." It's a lovely family moment ... and it lasts for exactly 30 seconds. As Hurley drones on, his grandfather (who's standing nearby), clutches his left arm and gets that "crap, this can't be good" look. Grampy staggers and falls to the ground, stricken dead by a heart attack that delivers more rest than Hurley could ever offer.

In the ensuing weeks, a heavy black cloud settles over Hurley, his family, and anyone in his orbit. For example: The priest overseeing his grandfather's funeral is struck by lightning at the funeral; Hurley's sister-in-law leaves his brother for another woman; Hurley surprises his mother with a new house only to have his mother snap her ankle during the unveiling; and then the house catches on fire; and then Hurley is mistaken for a drug dealer and arrested by the police.

And those last three things all happen in a three-minute span.

Eventually, this string of bad luck leads Hurley to conclude that his lottery win has brought a curse upon his curly-haired head. Even worse, he soon learns that his series of unfortunate events is expanding beyond his direct contacts. His accountant tells him that a fire at a sneaker factory he owns (he was unaware of his ownership) recently claimed eight lives. Nonetheless, the accountant tells Hurley that all of this tragedy does have a significant upside: insurance and lawsuits will double his net worth. And then Hurley is struck by an epiphany: it's not the money that's cursed, it's the numbers. Hurley blurts out his revelation (how he arrives at this conclusion is a little murky) and his accountant immediately launches into a "Curses? There's no such thing!" retort ... but the accountant's message is watered down by the sudden appearance of a screaming man dropping by the accountant's high-rise office window. So, what was that about a curse?

Sidenote & Important Character Connection: A couple of things are revealed during this discussion between Hurley and his accountant:

  1. Hurley's real name is Hugo Reyes.

  2. Hurley owns a significant stake in a box company in Tustin, Calif. And it just so happens that Locke used to work at a box company in Tustin, Calif..
Back to the backstory ... struck by his numbers epiphany, Hurley jumps into action. He has two desires: A desire to uncover the truth behind the numbers and a desire to find someone, anyone, who doesn't think his curse conclusion is completely insane.

Hurley's number quest takes him a psychiatric hospital in search of a patient named Leonard. He and Leonard have a history together -- a history that isn't completely spelled out, but one that suggests Hurley may have once been a psych patient himself. It turns out that Leonard is really quite insane. He spends his days mumbling and playing Connect Four (by himself) ... but if you listen carefully you'll hear that Lenny's mumble is actually a string of numbers: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. Hurley's first contact with these numbers was via Leonard's mumble and when Hurley tells Lenny that he may have kinda sorta played those numbers in the lottery, Leonard flies off the handle. "You shouldn't have done that!" Lenny screams. "You've opened the box! You've gotta get away from those numbers!" Unfortunately, screaming in a psych ward tends to draw the attention of muscle-bound guards, so Lenny is hauled off before Hurley can get definitive answers. But just before Lenny is taken away, he tells Hurley that the numbers were first heard by a man named Sam Toomey in Kalgoorlie, Australia.

And so Hurley travels to a remote town in Australia to visit the mysterious Sam Toomey. Alas, Sam Toomey is both mysterious and dead, but his widow is more than happy to discuss her husband's checkered history with the cursed numbers. Mrs. Toomey reveals that Sam and Lenny encountered the numbers while serving in the U.S. Navy. Sam was monitoring low-wave radio transmissions over the Pacific Ocean when one night 16 years ago a voice crackled through the static. The voice repeated the numbers over and over. Days later, Sam and his wife visited a local fair where they encountered a man with a giant jar of beans (stick with me here). For decades the man had offered $50,000 to anyone who could guess the number of beans to within 10. Sam offered up the curse numbers and the total was correct -- exactly correct down to the very last bean. Sam and his wife claimed the money, but on their drive home the number curse reared its nasty little head. A car accident claimed Mrs. Toomey's leg, yet Sam escaped unscathed. Over the next few years Sam became convinced that every accident and misfortune that happened to anyone he knew was tied to the number curse. Ultimately, Sam's only escape came when he crammed a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger (in his Australian wife's words: "and pulled da triggah"). This isn't really what Hurley wants to hear but that's all he's gonna get because his backstory ends at this point.

Nitpicky Math Sidenote: I'm horrible at math, so maybe someone can straighten this out for me. If Sam used the curse numbers to guess the correct number of beans, as best I can tell the final tally would be 4,815,162,342. Uh, does that seem a little high to anyone? FOUR BILLION BEANS? That jar would need to be the size of Rhode Island, right? Likewise, if Sam added the digits, the total would either be 108 (4 + 8 + 15 + 16 + 23 + 42) or 36 (4 + 8 + 1 + 5 + 1 + 6 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 2) -- both of which I'd deem guessable. Is there something I'm missing here?

Point 2



The Case of the Number Curse goes way beyond Hurley's backstory. It's also integral to this week's island developments.

Early in the episode, Michael tells Jack and Hurley that his new and improved raft (yes, he's rebuilding after last week's boat bonfire) will need some sort of radio signal device to summon help on the high seas. But there's a problem -- radios require power and the castaways aren't exactly swimming in spare Duracells. But then Hurley remembers Sayid mentioning a stash of batteries hidden away at crazy Danielle Rousseau's secret lair.

And so Hurley and Jack rush off to ask Sayid all sorts of questions about Rousseau, but Sayid doesn't have much to offer. He claims he doesn't know how to find her since he was disoriented when he escaped. Moreover, he appears to be a little squeamish about a second Rousseau encounter, which makes sense when you consider the torture he endured during his first visit. As Sayid adamantly -- and angrily -- declares that a return is out of the question, he shoves the maps and notes he stole from Rousseau into Hurley's hands. And that's when Hurley notices a piece of paper with six numbers repeated again and again. I'll give 50 grand and 4 billion beans to the first person who can correctly guess those six numbers.

The six numbers dig a big pointy splinter deep into Hurley's brain, prompting him to wake Sayid in the middle of the night with a barrage of questions about Rousseau. Again, Sayid has no answers. The next day, Hurley gathers up bottles of water and prepares to set out in search of the crazy French lady. Charlie sees Hurley's frantic preparation and asks Hurley where he's going. Hurley claims he's going on a walk and when Charlie volunteers to accompany him, Hurley says he needs alone time.

Hours later, Sayid charges into the cave camp to confront Jack about some missing Rousseau documents. Jack pleads ignorance (rightfully so) and Sayid realizes that Hurley stole the documents the night before. Sayid and Jack ask Charlie if he's seen Hurley and Charlie notes that the big fella tromped off into the woods hours ago "acting like a loon I might add." Sayid and Jack are overcome by an Impending Adventure/Rescue Mission as they conclude that Hurley has scampered off for an ill-advised Rousseau Redezvous.

So Sayid, Jack and Charlie set out to find Hurley before he becomes Rousseau's plaything. And the trio stumbles upon Hurley just as he's about to do something very, very stupid. Hurley found the same power line Sayid uncovered earlier in the season (it's a heavy line that runs from the ocean floor to Rousseau's subterranean jungle hideout). Hurley followed the line inland and stepped on a hidden weight trigger -- and this is exactly where Sayid, Jack and Charlie come into the scene. A big heavy guy is standing on a hair trigger. Not good. Looking up, Sayid sees that the trigger is attached to a big bundle of pointy sticks that's poised to impale the unlucky soul who sets off the trap. Hurley surveys the scene and says he's spry enough to avoid the weapon. Before the rescuers can protest, Hurley leaps forward as the sticks swing clear of his outstretched body. He's right -- he's surpringly spry for a big guy.

He's also got what appears to be a death wish. The foursome heads deeper into the woods to find Rousseau's hideaway, but their path ends at a rickety bridge spanning a deep cavern. Without hesitation, Hurley creaks his way across the dilapidated boards. He successfully traverses the obstacle, much to the surprise of Sayid, Jack and Charlie. And that's when Charlie has a Sir Robin moment ("That's easy!") and sets off across the Bridge of Death. What Charlie fails to realize is that Hurley's heft compromised the bridge's already shaky structural integrity. Fortunately, Charlie is close enough to the other side to dive to safety as the bridge crackles to pieces on cue (really, we all knew it was going to break, right?). So now Charlie and Hurley are on one side of the divide and Jack and Sayid are on the other.

We've seen this type of character division before. Back in "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues," Jack and Kate searched for the then-abducted Claire and Charlie on one path while Boone and Locke took another. That situation opened the door to the Locke-Boone teacher-student dynamic and it gave Jack and Kate ample time to take off their shirts and engage in useless psuedo flirting. Fortunately, this episode's character division is slightly more interesting. Sayid and Jack head back into the woods to look for a way around the canyon, but as they move into the brush Jack trips a wire. A huge explosion and fireball erupt nearby. Jack and Sayid survive the blast, but they soon see that Rousseau intentionally booby trapped her lair in anticipation of Sayid's return.

On the Hurley-Charlie side of the canyon, Charlie continues to make colloquial references to Hurley's sanity ("bloody nutter" is my personal favorite). Hurley takes great offense to this and comes to the verge of revealing his number curse to Charlie, but just as the words are set to tumble from his mouth, bullets rip through nearby foliage. Charlie and Hurley run blindly into the woods, hoping to dodge shots from their unseen attacker.

Hurley and Charlie get separated and Hurley trips into a clearing ... and that's when he's met by the business end of crazy Danielle Rousseau's hunting rifle. Sporting a wild-eyed glare and a fetching jungle ensemble, Rousseau isn't particularly interested in making friends with Hurley. But when Hurley whips out Rousseau's notes, her homicidal fury is replaced by curiosity. Hurley asks her what the six numbers mean. Rousseau says she doesn't know. And this is when Hurley snaps. With a gun still pointed at his chest, Hurley says he's been going along for the ride up until this point, but now he's getting pretty pissed off at the current state of affairs and all he wants -- all he demands -- are some "freakin' answers." Apparently, a threat of violence is the key to Rousseau's heart because her glare softens and she decides to reveal her own Number Curse Encounter. It goes like this: 16 years ago Rousseau's science expedition picked up a radio transmission aboard their boat. The voice in the transmission repeated the numbers over and over, so the team changed course to investigate. A storm shipwrecked the crew on the island (she previously recounted this part of her story to Sayid) and weeks later her fellow castaways finally found the source of the number transmission -- a radio tower located "up by the black rock." For some reason Hurley neglects to ask "and where the hell is the black rock?", so we still don't know much about that friggin' thing. Anyway, a "sickness" eventually ravaged Rousseau's crew and when the last castaway had died, Rousseau returned to the radio tower and changed the transmission to her now infamous 16-year-old distress signal.

Hurley prods her for more information, desperate to understand why they seem to be cursed by these numbers. Rousseau seems prepared to launch into the "you've got to be kidding" response, but then she considers the evidence. The curse numbers brought her to the island and the events on the island have been pretty damn sucky -- maybe they are cursed. She tells Hurley he's probably right. Oddly enough, this is exactly what Hurley needs to hear. A weight is lifted from Hurley's shoulders and he hugs Rousseau in thanks.

Now, it's a nice moment and I'm sure we're all very happy for Hurley, but there's a wee problem here. If Hurley is tying his sanity to the island's resident loon, he could be in for a mighty big fall. Then again, maybe we're the ones who are crazy ... allright, enough of that.

At the moment all is right in Hurley's world, but all is not right with Sayid, Jack and Charlie. Charlie finds Sayid and Jack as they sift through the rubble of Rousseau's exploded headquarters. She had abandoned her secret fort following Sayid's escape, so there's little usable material. Sayid, however, discovers the photograph of his Iraqi love that he left behind during his previous escape attempt. He pockets the picture before Jack sees it, which is good because you know Jack would squeal to Shannon the second they get back to camp. Anyway, the bottom line for Sayid, Jack and Charlie is that they still haven't found a battery and now they appear to have lost Hurley as well. But both of these problems are soon solved. Hurley strides into the clearing and shows off a shiny new battery courtesy of Crazy Danielle Rousseau's Gun Shack and Battery Emporium. Hurley hands the battery to Jack and dryly looks at Sayid: "She says 'hey'."

Later that night, Charlie sits fireside with Hurley (every episode needs at least one Intimate Fireside Moment). Charlie returns to the revelation Hurley was about to make in the jungle, but Hurley is mum about the number curse thing. Nonetheless, he tells Charlie that the plane crash might have been his fault, citing a history of really, really bad luck. Charlie doesn't buy this bloody nutter conclusion (sorry, had to use that phrase again). Before Hurley can protest (and reveal more), Charlie spills his own deep, dark secret. He tells Hurley that just before the plane crashed he was holed up in the bathroom snorting heroine. "I suppose that was your fault as well," Charlie says. Hurley has no response, so Charlie fishes for more, asking Hurley to reciprocate with his own Big Secret. Hurley pauses and says "Back home I'm worth $156 million." Unconvinced and offended at Hurley's "joke" response, Charlie storms off in disgust. Hurley is dumbfounded. What's a guy got to do to convince the people he's got mad bling back home?

And with that the Hurley extravaganza concludes.

Point 3

Locke finds Claire sitting on the beach, staring aimlessly at the horizon. The child growing inside her appears to be in its 33rd month of gestation and Claire's energy has clearly been sapped by both her pregnancy and the Ethan ordeal. Sensing Claire's unspoken desire to contribute, Locke asks Claire if she'll help him with a small building project.

The duo work together throughout the rest of the episode constructing an unknown device. At first it looks like some sort of animal trap or container, but as the day progresses (and as their discussion turns more significant), the object takes form. In the final moments -- just as Claire has revealed that today is her birthday -- Locke turns the object over to reveal a brand new cradle for her soon-to-be child. "Happy birthday, Claire," Locke says with a smile. Locke = Smoothie.

Point 4

Michael and Jin are briefly seen collaborating on the raft construction. Their language barrier appears to be breaking down, as Michael is able to roughly translate some of Jin's instructions. More importantly, the two can now argue without Michael hauling off with a right hook. In later seasons, the two will share an apartment and form an unusual (and comical) bond despite their differences in culture and cleanliness.
Point 5
Island If you thought I was done with the number stuff you were wrong. In the closing moments of this episode the camera zooms in on the mysterious hatch Locke and Boone discovered seven episodes ago ("All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"). For weeks it's seemed as though the hatch had been forgotten by the writing team, but the oversight may have been intentional because this episode's very last shot shows a series of small numbers cut into the hatch's metal exterior: 4 8 15 16 23 42. Hmm, I wonder if this mysterious hatch and its mysterious numbers will somehow figure into a mysterious end-of-season cliffhanger?

That's it for now. Be sure to drop by our "Lost" Forum for stimulating conversation and conjecture.

Next Episode:
"All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues" (repeat) -- Charlie and Claire go missing, so a search party sets out to find them. In other developments, Jack's Daddy problems flare up again and Locke and Boone uncover yet another "island mystery." Airs: Wednesday, March 9, 8 p.m., ABC.

Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc.

Posted by Mac Slocum on March 3, 2005 10:40 AM |

Assuming 13 beans to a cubic inch 4,815,162,3,42 beans would fill a jar 60'x60'x60'. A smaller bean size could easily halve or more those dimensions, but there is something even more unlikely: the amount of time it would take to count those beans.

At 250 beans a minute, it would take a person 72 years working twelve hour days to count all those beans. Invariably somebody would interrupt you on bean # 4,345,654,123 so you'd have to start all over again. If I had to count that high I'd put a curse on the numbers too.

#1. Posted by: Michael Chastain at March 3, 2005 12:07 PM

Michael -- Thanks for the breakdown. I lack the brainpower to work that kind of thing out, but I had a feeling the end result would be off the charts.

#2. Posted by: Mac at March 3, 2005 1:26 PM

Great blog - just discovered it while surfing to see if anyone remembered Locke's reference to Tustin in the census episode.

By the way, I believe it is in that same census episode and not "Numbers" that Hurley reveals his name is Hugo Reyes, and that 'Hurley' is a nickname.

#3. Posted by: Dave at March 3, 2005 2:36 PM

Dave -- Glad you like it.

And you're write about the Hugo Reyes part. I *thought* that was mentioned before but I neglected to note it. That's what I get for typing the review up at 1 a.m. ;) Thanks for the catch.

I thought the Tustin-box company connection was fantastic. It's exactly the type of thing that keeps my interest through shows like "Lost." "Buff" and "Angel" used to employ the same references -- oftentimes alluding to a clue dropped seasons before. It's a nice way to keep long-time fans intrigued.

#4. Posted by: Mac at March 3, 2005 2:53 PM

There are many ways to "use" a series of numbers. To win at a volume guessing game a person might use 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 by adding them or multiplying one by the sum of the others... The hook of LOST is the way the audience is asked to suspend reason but allowed to make connections. A big jar of beans probably has close to 20,000 max so the dude probably just used 48151 ... no, that would be too many and he'd have had to ... OK, I guess the container had about 48,151 beans ... maybe there were only 4815 beans. Yeah, that makes more sense ... and cheaper for the con artist as well. Although these days 4815 beans would cost you quite a bit. What are there, maybe 100 beans in a bag worth about a buck? 4815 beans would cost about 50 dollars. That's not too much money for a con game. Maybe it WAS 48,151 beans and it cost the con artist 500 dollars ... OK, enough guessing about the numbers. When numbers are placed on a piece of metal like a big underground container they are usually some form of identification system. There are probably many more of these large underground containers all over the deserted island chains all over the world ... put there many years ago by the first Bush administration - potential future bomb shelters for a planned nuclear disaster that they would blame on some tiny, oil-rich nation in order to gain public support for its take-over and plundering.

#5. Posted by: lostbutnotlost at March 3, 2005 5:44 PM

To be honest, I wouldn't spend all that time counting. I'd maybe take a sample of so many beans (100, 1000? The bigger the better, but it all depends on how dedicated the person was) and then weigh them, figuring out the total amount from the weight of the bags of beans i added along the way. Something I'm more interested in is why the owner of the beans would admit that that was the number to the bean.. Is he just very honest, or is there some way for the guesser to know the answer is right or wrong?

#6. Posted by: Mike at March 4, 2005 6:17 AM

In another I read about this show, someone said they thought the numbers should have contained or would have been 666. Well, 666 actually is mixed in:

4 ... 8 ... 15 ... 16 ... 23 ... and the bonus ball ... 42!

The first five numbers add up to 66. And 42? It's root is 6 (4+2, according to numerology)! So, there you go.

#7. Posted by: Thomas Bonin at March 4, 2005 11:56 AM

...and then Usama Bin Laden would jump out of the container (which would explain the numerous plane crashes) when Locke figures out how to open it... Of course Usama would fantasize about crashing YET ANOTHER jet airplane into the island and the rest is future history.

Where is the power cable COMING FROM (Oahu???) ???

If they don't focus on this power cable - at least enough to make it perplex SOMEBODY - then I will have had it with this farce of a Gilligan's Island show.

#8. Posted by: lostbutnotlost at March 5, 2005 1:00 PM

Also, I'd like to say how this episode is stirring up the thing I hate most about when numbers are included in mysteries. You can pretty much add, subtract, divide, multiply, square or root any number to bend it to whatever you want. I saw a "theory" just now that 42 was included because there's a 6 week break, and there are 42 days in six weeks. Give me a break. I doubt that the writers would make the meaning behind the numbers based on some mathematical formula that the survivors wouldn't arrive at naturally.

#9. Posted by: Mike at March 7, 2005 8:27 AM

A couple of questions for any super viewers. But first, is it just because Hitch hiker's guide to the Galaxy is coming out that we're seeing 42 everywhere?

I've heard the name Sam Toomey before on lost. Wasn't it someone connected to Sawyer?

The sneaker company fire. Didn't Sun's father (Jin's boss) suffer a similar loss? Or was it a reference to Lang's Metropolis, in which a factory explosion killed 8 workers and opened the hero's eyes to the plight of the workers. 8 is one of the numbers too ;~)

#10. Posted by: Blake at March 9, 2005 6:50 PM

Did anyone catcht the tail number on the Oceanic Airline plane? Other flight info (flight number, arrival time, gate number and such) would be very interesting. Please advise. Thanks.

#11. Posted by: West at March 10, 2005 5:28 PM

The Flight number was 815, that's been mentioned a couple of times.

#12. Posted by: Blake at March 16, 2005 6:09 AM

West - The arrival time in LA was also 8:15 and Jack was in row 23.

#13. Posted by: Brian at March 18, 2005 2:49 PM

Kate's little airplane had some numbers on the wing...a combination to a lock perhaps...the location of buried treasure...a Swiss bank account???

#14. Posted by: lostbutnotlost at March 27, 2005 12:09 AM

first off, i have to say that Lost is by far the best TV show i have EVER seen on TV...the cliffhangers are amazing and the suspense is also terrific...there are a lot of questions i got and if anybody can answer them it would be GREATLY appreciated...first...whats with jacks father and the casquette on the plane?? why was it empty??? AND the hatch in the ground...i have a theory on that but i dont know...Locke mom is just like the virgin mary who had a baby without having intercourse so locke and jesus are kindave the same episode Lockes mom tells him she had him and he doesnt have a father, Locke is kindave like Jesus...also in that same episode, Locke wants to find a way to get into the the bible says.."ask and it shall be given unto you, seek and ye will find..KNOCK AND THE DOOR WILL BE OPEN UNTO YOU" i think all locke has to do it knock on the hatch and someones coming...remember how when he pounded on it at the end? the light turned on?? idk just a theory...

#15. Posted by: Brad Bartram at April 6, 2005 11:06 PM

I think it would be great if there was a brief cameo of Gilligan. Especially, before he passes on. It could either be in a back-history or just a dream. Maybe I'm the only one thinking about this weird thing, but it really intrigues me to think the show would make a little bit of a connection to Gilligan's Island.

#16. Posted by: Mike R at June 6, 2005 3:57 PM

42 is part of a "cosmic joke". For anyone who's read a book called "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (or seen the movie) the number 42 was the subject of most of that series. It was suggested that 42 is the "answer to life, the universe, and everything". It was suggested as a joke, and the most ideas in the series were very much off the wall, but the number's appeared in a many different literary and hollywood works since. (in a later episode of the X-Files for example, we were shown that Fox Mulder lived in apartment # 42)

I think that by including the number 42, the writers are just saying "don't try to understand this, just run with it and enjoy the ride".

#17. Posted by: Sean Gold at August 23, 2005 7:50 AM

What if the numbers correlate to the seat numbers for six of the passengers?

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#19. Posted by: diabetic supplies at August 30, 2005 2:59 AM

the numbers are related to the seat numbers of some of the passangers jacks seat number is 23 you find this out in epesode 23 when he is talking to a woman in the bar who was in seat 42 at the back of the plane where the wheels lift up under the plane she will be found in season 2 when they find the tail end of the plane which also stars samual l jackson as roses husband

#20. Posted by: tikka at September 5, 2005 5:28 AM


The reward amount for kate was $23,000.


Wasn't Sawyer 8 when his father killed his mother, then himself?

We'll probably find the numbers everywhere, it'll drive you nuts.....

#21. Posted by: JD at September 17, 2005 2:35 AM

during the lost episodes there was a commercial about the dharma foundation, and it would give a website that was different every episode, but would take you to the same place, has anyone filled out one of the applications for that.
And when you add all the numbers up, (4+8+15+16+23+42) they equal 108, the amount of time required to push the button in the hatch

#22. Posted by: JT at September 8, 2006 1:50 PM

@#20 (tikka): "Enough is enough! I have had it with these muthafuckin' polar bears on this muthafuckin' island!"

#23. Posted by: James at June 10, 2007 12:07 AM

I have just watched this episode for the 3rd time and everytime I cringe so much at the awful, awful attempt at an Australian accent that woman uses when Hurley goes to Kalgoorlie. There have been quite a few other really fake Australian accents but this one is outrageously bad. Do Americans actually think we sound like that? It is some weird mixture of a cockney english accent and south african accent that American actors tend to use...maybe only us Aussies can tell the difference but it hurts my ears!!! There are plenty of Aussie actors around - why not use the real thing?? Sorry for my rant but it has driven me crazy each time I listen to those fake accents - she didn't even pronounce Kalgoorlie correctly!!

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