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Key Points from "Adrift"

Season 2, Episode 2
Episode Air Date: 09/28/05

Point 1
Michael

Sawyer

Jin

This episode is Michael centric. Being such, you can probably guess that Michael survived last season's Other Attack. And because I'm in such a giving mood, I'll spare you the suspense: Sawyer and Jin are alive, too.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Raftaways are accounted for, only now they're more of the Wreckaways or the Screwedintheocean-aways. As you'll recall, the Others (or the group we're led to believe is the Others), kidnapped Walt and then blew Michael's intricately constructed raft to pieces.

This episode begins seconds after the explosion. Sawyer clings to a floating mass of raft debris while Michael treads water nearby, screaming after Walt. For a brief moment, Walt returns his cry, but Walt's voice soon fades (he needs to save those pipes for freaky backwards messages). Sawyer sees Michael thrash in the water, which is always a bad sign, especially when it's dark and you're in unfamiliar water, and you've just been attacked by a renegade band of island freaks.

So Sawyer paddles toward Michael. Wait, let me rephrase: Sawyer, with a BULLET LODGED IN HIS SHOULDER, paddles toward Michael. Sawyer, you'll remember, was shot by an Other in the finale.

Upon reaching Michael, Sawyer hoists his now-unconscious raft comrade onto a slab of driftwood and administers mouth-to-mouth, thereby bringing Michael back to the nightmare that is his conscious life. I'm sure he's thrilled.

From this point forward, the Raftaway scenes feature the following:

  • Michael blames Sawyer for Walt's abduction. How's that? Well, Michael believes Sawyer forced him to shoot the flare. In turn, the flare attracted the abductors. Therefore, Sawyer is to blame.

  • Sawyer takes umbrage with Michael's preposterous assertion because Sawyer wisely concludes that the flare was irrelevant. "The Others," Sawyer says (his terminology), were coming for "a boy." That boy was Walt. Therefore, the Others were already tracking the raft and the flare had nothing to do with it. Sawyer, it would appear, has exceptional deductive skills. And did I mention he has a BULLET IN HIS SHOULDER?

  • Actually, this bullet stuff isn't entirely true. That's because, early on, Sawyer pushes two fingers deep into the flesh of his bleeding shoulder and extracts the bullet. No pain medication. No help from Michael. Not even one of those "things you put between your teeth so you don't bite your tongue" devices. He goes commando.

  • Sawyer's bleeding shoulder attracts a shark. Or what appears to be a shark -- we only really see the dorsal fin, so technically it could be a bloodthirsty dolphin (or maybe mapinguaris can swim). Nonetheless, there's a moment half-way through the episode where a larger, sturdier portion of the raft drifts into view, so Sawyer decides to swim for it. He leaves Michael with his pistol (which has remained in Sawyer's possession throughout this entire ordeal) and specific instructions to shoot the hungry beast, should it appear. With all this build up, it's inevitable that the shark appears. And so it does, and Michael shreds its back with bullets, splattering water and blood all around. Sawyer then makes his way to the new and improved raft chunk, Michael paddles over moments later, and things are suddenly looking a little less dire.

  • The next morning, Sawyer wakes to find Michael bawling his eyes out. Michael looks up. "It was my fault," Michael says. "I never should have brought him on the raft. He didn't know English! And I made him read the radar! Jin!"

  • Just kidding. The "him" from Michael's teary-eyed moment is Walt, which is good since I had fears that Michael would spend the remainder of the season indiscriminately blaming random castaways for Walt's disappearance. "Charlie! You made Walt go away! He hated Driveshaft!"
  • Michael's anguish soon turns to vengeance. He sets his eyes on the horizon (it's all very dramatic) and declares "I'm gonna get back my son." Now, I'm not one to burst revenge bubbles, but Michael's steely-eyed declaration is tempered, just a bit, by the fact that he's floating in the middle of the ocean. Just an observation.

  • But wouldn't you know it, at that exact moment, Sawyer looks up and sees that the ocean current has brought them miraculously back to toward the island!
And now we come to the good stuff ...

You'll notice I haven't discussed Jin (outside of a very bad joke). That's because Jin is AWOL for most of the episode, but he makes an outstanding guest appearance in the closing moments.

It goes like this ... Some time after Michael's tearful confession, Michael and Sawyer drag the remnants of their raft onto the island's beach. Almost immediately, they hear an unseen man shouting in Korean. Jin bursts out of the underbrush and runs down the beach toward the duo. Jin's arms are bound behind his back, and he looks like he's been roughed up. He's clearly hopped up about something, but his shouts -- which sound an awful lot like warnings -- are in Korean, so Michael and Sawyer are at a total loss. But that's okay, because a visual cue is just around the corner.

"Others ... OTHERS!" Jin sputters in stilted English. Jin's eyes lock onto something. Michael and Sawyer turn. And that's when they see five people lumbering toward them with big, pointy sticks in their hands.

Point 2
Jack

Kate

Jack

Desmond

The hatch has not been forgotten! Last week's tremendous revelations are expanded upon in this episode.

We begin with Locke. Last week, Locke mysteriously appeared in the hatch (and on the wrong end of Desmond's gun). This week, we learn how he got down there and what he encountered. And so we backtrack a bit.

We see that moments after Kate was sucked into the hatch, Locke straps into a harness and lowers himself into the hatch hole. He wanders in cautiously, removing his shoes (which Jack later sees) before venturing down the murky hatch hallways. He sees banks of old computer equipment and an equipment box bearing the logo of a company named "Dharma." He walks on and enters Desmond's living quarters, which, in addition to a lava lamp and Mama Cass albums, houses a ping-pong table (tilted up at the end, suggesting Desmond does a lot of pongin' alone). Locke also answers a riddle from last episode: How does sunlight get into Desmond's room? The answer: It doesn't. Locke twists open a set of venetian blinds to reveal an artificial light source buried in a wall.

And this is when Kate starts to groan from a nearby room. Locke rushes over as she comes to (she must have been knocked unconscious during the hatch debacle), but her re-entry into consciousness is rudely interrupted by the sound of a rifle clicking into position.

Locke spins and comes face-to-face with Desmond, who greets our beloved survivalist with two things: a rifle and a question. "Are you him?" the wacky Scot asks. "Are you him?" he asks again. Locke, perhaps believing that he really is the man called "him," answers affirmatively. Desmond appears momentarily convinced. "I can't believe it. You're finally here." But then Desmond's face drops. "What did one snowman say to the other snowman?" Desmond asks. And now it's Locke's turn for a face drop. "I don't know what you're talking about," he responds.

Whoops.

(Sidenote: Desmond's snowman question is actually the beginning of a really, really dumb joke).

With the snowman question unanswered, Desmond springs to action. He forces Locke to toss away his knife. Kate, who has now gotten to her feet, tells Desmond that she and Locke were in a plane crash. "And when was that?" Desmond asks. "44 days ago," Locke answers. The number seems to puzzle Desmond, but he's not in a chit-chatting mood, so he orders Locke and Kate to move off into another room. On the way, Locke spots a wall with hundreds of markings -- each mark appears to represent a day Desmond has spent on the island (he's been there a long time). But there's no time for further inquiry because Locke is about to whip out a stunning display of quick-thinking.

Desmond orders Kate to tie Locke's hands behind his back, but Locke holds up the proceedings. Kate, Locke says, is the dangerous one -- "she's a fugitive." Kate is incredulous. Desmond orders Locke to tie her hands, and Locke complies, but as he does so, he deftly slides a folded knife into Kate's jeans. "I'm doing what's best for all of us," he whispers to Kate. With that, Locke moves Kate into a dark room, then locks her behind a heavy sliding door.

With Kate sealed off, Locke and Desmond move into Desmond's quarters for a little chat. Locke details the plane crash and explains that 43 survivors are left (his count includes the four recently-departed Raftaways). And then Desmond drops a bombshell: "How many of your group have gotten sick?" he asks. Locke asks if that's why it says "quarantine" on the inside of the hatch, but Desmond demands an answer to his question. "No one is sick," Locke says. Desmond gets that puzzled look again (he's particularly adept at extreme confusion), but before he can press the issue, an alarm starts to beep. Jack has entered the building.

Desmond orders Locke into his computer control room and forces Locke to sit at the ancient computer ("I haven't seen one of those in 20 years," Locke exclaims upon seeing the system). Desmond orders Lock to type in a specific string: "4 ... 8 ... 15 ... 16 ..." you know where this is going. Locke completes the string, then reticently presses "Execute." Nearby, a five-digit analog flip display (similar to what you find in a train station) whirs to life. The five digits settle onto these numbers: 1 0 8 0 0. There's no explanation as to what this flip display represents or why these numbers appear, but Desmond seems relieved.

Now, at the same time Locke and Desmond are having their number meeting, Kate is exploring her surroundings. She successfully unbinds herself with Locke's knife, then searches the wall for a light source. She hits a switch, light floods the room, and she slowly spins around to see ... a stocked pantry. Desmond has a massive supply of canned goods, oils, nuts and, most importantly, "Apollo" candy bars. Kate devours a bar and stuffs a few extra into her pockets. She then spots an air vent on the ceiling, so she stacks a few boxes and pops the vent open so she can pull a "Die Hard" manuever in the air system.

Kate's journey doesn't take her far -- a few feet, really -- but she spots Jack as he approaches from below. She calls out to the good doctor, but by this point Desmond is blasting his Super Sounds of the '70s record collection, so Kate's calls are drowned out.

The scene then plays out the same as last week -- only this time we see Kate's perspective in the air duct. Locke appears in the doorway of the control room. Jack raises his gun. Desmond raises a pistol to Locke's head, then fires a warning shot into the air duct (nearly plugging Kate in the process). Desmond issues his stunning line -- "Lower your gun, or I'll blow his damned head off, brother!" Revelation crosses Jack's face. "You!" Jack exclaims. Jack twitches a bit and raises his gun ... and then the scene ends AGAIN.

So the big moment we're waiting for -- the Jack-Desmond explanation -- will have to wait. Now, I may be wrong, but seeing this scene play out from a different angle changed things a bit. Originally, I got the impression that Desmond not only recognized Jack, but was expecting him. In this latest version, it seems as though Desmond doesn't know Jack. Did anyone else pick up on this, or am I once again reading way too far into subtle/non-existent clues?

Point 3
Michael

Walt
As I noted at the beginning of this Key Points review, "Adrift" is Michael-heavy, which means we got a big ol' dose of Michael backstory. I'm going to gloss over this segment since it wasn't all that interesting, but it did include one sly little prop.

In the backstory we see that Michael initially fought Susan (Walt's now-deceased mother) for joint custody of Walt. These backstory segments take place 7-8 years ago (the little Walt in these scenes appears to be 2 or 3 years old), and at that time Susan was planning on moving to Rome with Walt and her corporate boyfriend. Michael initiated legal proceedings to bar Susan from leaving the U.S. with Walt. We see a protracted legal scene that's meant to be revelatory and emotional, but it comes off like a community theater version of "Kramer vs. Kramer."

Eventually, Susan appeals to Michael to back down for Walt's sake. Michael acquiesces. In a final scene, Michael meets Susan and little Walt for a last goodbye and a parting gift. Walt doesn't say a thing during the brief redezvous (he's only a wee little man), but Michael promises Walt that no matter where he goes, his "daddy" will always love him. With that, Michael presents Walt with ... wait for it ... a stuffed polar bear.

Point 4
Charlie

Claire

Charlie and Claire have a brief, flirtatious, table-setting exchange. The moment revolves around Claire's discovery of a ceramic Virgin Mary statue in Charlie's bag. Charlie claims to have found it in the jungle, and he's twitchy and unusually protective of the religious icon. Claire interprets this as latent piousness. Claire is wrong. The statue, and a slew of similar statues, came from the Beechcraft drug-running plane (the plane that fell while Boone was in it). Charlie is far more interested in the stash of heroin inside the statue. "It might come in handy," Charlie says as he looks longingly at the figure. "It could be a nice thing to have around."

That's it for now. Be sure to drop by our "Lost" Forum for stimulating conversation and conjecture.

Next Episode:
"Orientation" -- Michael, Jin and Sawyer confront an identity crisis. Meanwhile, the hatch burps up more secrets (metaphorically -- the thing doesn't actually burp ... yet). Airs: Wednesday, Oct. 5, 9 p.m., ABC.


Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc.


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Posted by Mac Slocum on September 29, 2005 10:57 AM |




Did anyone else see the `Dharma' logo on the shark's tail as it flashed by the camera during one of the `looking up from in the water' shots of the raft?

#1. Posted by: Stephen at September 29, 2005 11:35 AM

I saw that being discussed in Filmfodder's Lost Forums (screenshots are included in the posts). VERY interesting stuff. It certainly opens up a whole new can of worms (or sharks, as the case may be).

#2. Posted by: mac at September 29, 2005 12:22 PM

I think you're wrong about the alarm. The beeping that prompted Desmond to start worrying about the computer was related to the time running out, not to Jack entering the premises. He heard jack a minute or two later. The beeping sound was the same noise that woke him up in the first episode of the season before the hatch was even blown

#3. Posted by: Samuel Klemens at September 29, 2005 12:23 PM

It appears the beeping is a countdown. Everytime it gets low, Desmond has to reenter those numbers and the analog charges back up to 108 (the sum of the magic numbers). I wonder what would happen, though, if he didn't reset it. Or, if Jack had pushed the execute button a second time, right after resetting the clock. Something disastrous, probably! Personally, I think it's his very own Mr. Coffee telling him to brew a fresh pot. Seems plausible, don't it?

#4. Posted by: Trinity at September 29, 2005 1:12 PM

Yes I did see that logo as well. It was weird at first, but now that someone else saw it I guess I am not crazy afterall. Nothing surprises me on this show anymore.

#5. Posted by: Jason at September 29, 2005 1:26 PM


Great stuff, we love this show, thanks!

It seems fairly clear that it's the island that quarantined, and not Desmond.

Chris
http://amateureconblog.blogspot.com/

#6. Posted by: Chris Meisenzahl at September 29, 2005 1:31 PM

For those who want a further explanation of the "countdown" and the "code" entered into the computer.

This is what's known as a "dead man's switch" and it's used in terrorist bombs. It's normally implimented as a physical button the terrorist pushes and if the button is ever let go, the bomb explodes (so if the terrorist is shot, the bomb goes off anyways). Hence the term "dead man switch".

In this scenario in Lost my assumption is the guy is watching over some type of trigger (nuclear missile? something that controls something on the island, like a chemical agent?) and if Desmond is unable to stop the auto-reseting countdown, the sequence begins. While I could theorize on to the purpose of this countdown the only reasonable explanation is it's some kind of missile strike. Because it wouldn't be logical to be an all clear signal (remember the sign at the hatch did say quarentee) because if Desmond dies, the system would claim the underground/island is all clear.

I can already theorize on a plot spoiler (so stoy now if you want) but I'm guessing something will happen to Desmond (recall he was injecting himself and I highly doubt it's steriods) and he will be unable to enter the code at the next countdown cycle. Either somebody will save the day at the last minute, or the countdown will end and whatever ignition sequence will fire off.

#7. Posted by: Travis Owens at September 29, 2005 1:33 PM

I read something about the Dharma logo being an "I Ching" chart. (which i understand is a chinese fortune telling chart) From what I read about I Ching, it says that the chart can predict what is destined to happen in the immediate future. The numbers on the chart are apparently the "magic numbers". I wonder if the chart actually could be read and has a meaning?

#8. Posted by: Ck at September 29, 2005 1:35 PM

A couple of random observations...

Did anybody notice the quick view of the World Trade Center outside Michael's lawyer's office? Not really important except for establishing the timeframe, but interesting nonetheless.

Also, Desmond seemed surprised that the world was "still out there". Does he think he's the last survivor of a nuclear holocost?

#9. Posted by: Leon at September 29, 2005 2:14 PM

RE: Desmond's patch, there are 64 i ching (yi jing) hexagrams. I'm getting a little tired of the magic numbers, but am curious - does 64 have a significance in backgammon. I know only that it's the biggest number on the game's doubling die.

#10. Posted by: lostisland at September 29, 2005 3:49 PM

leon, maybe Desmond thinks he's the last survivor of a *sickness* holocaust.

#11. Posted by: lostisland at September 29, 2005 3:50 PM

A random observation about the numbers, apparently 23 is the most important one. In Season 2 epoisode 3 we find out about the hatch, why it's there and who put it there. 23 was also Jack's seat number. And a common title attributed to hexagram 23 of the I Ching is 'Things Fall Apart'...

#12. Posted by: Pete Lawson at September 29, 2005 5:38 PM

Not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but with many situations many important things have happened to most of the characters either 4 or 16 years ago, here are some examples
The accident which ended up bringing jack and whatshername together
Locke being paralyzed
The numbers being heard by danielle
the numbers being heard by lenny and sam
sams wife losing her leg
i could go on but i think you get the picture
plus 4 and 16 are two of the 'magic' numbers
I have no idea if it has anything to do with anything..but thought i'd just point it out

#13. Posted by: Pratt-San at September 30, 2005 12:16 AM

is it possible that Hurley's friend, Leonard and the guy Sam Toomey once had the same job that Desmond currently has? Sam had the job of entering the numbers into the computer until he was relieved by Leonard, (they were in the navy) and at some point Desmond relieved someone....and maybe Hurley is to relieve Desmond? just a thought

#14. Posted by: dontknowmuch at September 30, 2005 8:57 AM

dontknow much! great thinking mate! leonard and Sam could have been the operators of the hatch! they were in the navy! that will fit the sea mammal that had the same dharma logo. How mad will u get is u have to enter a code every 108 minutes :P a couple years long!

#15. Posted by: mar-10 at September 30, 2005 9:30 AM

I dont really think they had that job.. sam's wife said they heard the numbers over a transmission, and then shortly after he used the numbers and won the money...then moved to the middle of no where to keep from hurting people, then shot himself 4 years ago...unless she was lieing i doubt lenny and sam had the job desmond has

#16. Posted by: Pratt-san at September 30, 2005 12:44 PM

Nah. I think Desmond did recognize Jack. The look on his face when he stood behind Locke was odd. His eyes were particularly wide, like a madman. And he had an odd smirk on his face. Sorta like an "I know something you don't know" look.

I also think its entirely possible that Sam Toomey and the other guy lied about what they were doing in the Pacific. It's not unbelieveable for someone else to have been in the hatch before Desmond, do their time and get out (you know..waiting for "Him"). They are debriefed and the cover story is something like "working for the Navy". (ahem..what navy? Ours??? That's never indicated. More like working for "a" navy I'll bet)

#17. Posted by: I'm Spartacus at September 30, 2005 4:37 PM

It's also possible Jack is "him" and Jack doesn't know it yet.

#18. Posted by: I'm Spartacus at September 30, 2005 4:39 PM

I have a funny feeling that Walt is the 'one'. If you remember, it was said that he has 'special powers' (Locke picked up on this too). Polar Bears, birds flying into windows, etc. Maybe Walt is Desmond's way off the Island? Maybe the others know this and want to keep Walt from being found by Desmond. Does Walt hold the key to Desmond being freed and the others being destroyed?

I also believe that the others are the ones who have been quarantined. Maybe they believe that Walt (or another child) will make them 'well' again?

Can't wait for episode 3!

#19. Posted by: English Addict at September 30, 2005 7:08 PM

As a footnote, I am sure that a card that Michael wrote for Walt had the joke "What did one Snowman say to the other? Can you smell carrots?" As read by a nurse...or am I wrong?

Further evidence that Walt may be 'Him'.

#20. Posted by: English Addict at September 30, 2005 7:11 PM

As a footnote, I am sure that a card that Michael wrote for Walt had the joke "What did one Snowman say to the other? Can you smell carrots?" As read by a nurse...or am I wrong?

Further evidence that Walt may be 'Him'.

yup i think you may be right, although the best bit of this episode had to be jin running screaming in korean in the end, the OTHAS!!

quality!

#21. Posted by: Adam at October 1, 2005 7:26 AM

what exactly happened at the beginning of the show when Sawyer dropped the gun in the water? it looked like he lost the gun and/or the clip, but later he gives it to Micheal to shoot the shark. it fires about five to six bullets.
that confused me. can anyone explain that???

#22. Posted by: Katie at October 1, 2005 4:06 PM

Desmond says he was getting ready for a race around the world. I wonder if something went wrong and he ended up on that island and was convinced to stay in that quarantined hatch.

Do you think the hatch and the plane have anything to do with each other. Maybe the magnetics screwed everything up for the flight plan, etc. Or that the "security" system had anything to do with the plane going down?

I'm guessing that the security system might be some sort of mobile something-or-the-other that can be controlled from the hatch.

#23. Posted by: Kristine at October 1, 2005 4:10 PM

Did anyone notice the Polar Bear stuffed animal that Michael gave to Walt

#24. Posted by: ft1112 at October 2, 2005 9:21 AM

In reply to English Addicts comment, in episode 14, Special, the joke the nurse tells him is, " Whats black, white and red all over? A pengiun". Walt also reads the card at the end of the show.

#25. Posted by: Gaz at October 2, 2005 12:31 PM

the sum of all the numbers is 108
The five digits settle onto these numbers: 10800
by the color of the counter is meens 108m:00s
if this number is in seconds it meens the numbers give his another 180 min. it's 3 hours.

#26. Posted by: lior at October 2, 2005 4:59 PM

I think when desmond types in those numbers, it might be a way for him to maintain his sanity...This is kind of a stretch, but maybe since all those numbers add up to 108, then that's like the only thing that connects him to reality...Kind of like a mental assurance that, "yup, still here, they still add up to 108." I think a lot of people in crisis situations find comfort by counting numbers and controlling their stress. i dont know, just a thought.

#27. Posted by: Mo at October 3, 2005 12:57 PM

Charlie was around when Locke was able to walk again and when his future wife miracuously (sp) was able to wiggle her toes. seems odd. also everybody seems to have absent or bad fathers( sawyer, sun, walt,locke,charlie,and hurley's dad was no where to be seen in his flashback)

#28. Posted by: jgr at October 3, 2005 5:40 PM

ok,i have a theory on the ticking numbers. if you look back to right when desmond typed in the numbers in sea2 ep1, he pressed "execute" and they stopped. in real time, what happend right then on the surface? the islands "monster" opened a hole in the ground and almost got locke. ok, skip forward to when the code was typed in for the second time, what happened in real time right before the "execute" button was pressed? jack was getting closer to the hatch opening. i think that the code typed into the computer is some sort of proximity alert and maybe the code being typed into the computer followed by "execute" activates the defense system? maybe not, but two things are for sure that no one has mentioned yet. 1, the hatch was locked from the inside and desmond thinks people outside are sick, so it is the island that he is protecting himself from. and2, if you use the tivo and pause right when desmond picks up the medication bottle before he injects it into his arm, the label on the bottle has all of the numbers on it. so, the medication is definitly tied to the computer.
AND!!!!! no one else has said that the mural on the wall when paused in tivo again, has the phrase "i am sick" on it. the "i" is a picture of an eye, then the "am" is a letter "m", and the word sick is actually written out. so, desmond is definitly sick. look at it, sea2, ep1 when jack has the flash light on the mural.

#29. Posted by: Steven Crellin at October 3, 2005 6:04 PM

the safe were the guns are in also opened with the nummbers 23 42

#30. Posted by: mar-10 at October 4, 2005 3:13 AM

my theory for the numbers says that:
1-who ever used this numbers owe them somthing in return
2-there is a company name dharma and there are two options. this company own the numbers and control desmond that had to use them,gives him life,food,air,electricity,water and all this good fresh food in the food room(the candy for example should be bad by now and not so soft and fresh),the other option is that this company is desmond creation and he goes and help others with those numbers,he created this whole island but he doesent know how to control fully on the numbers,meens he is the sourse of all bad.
3-there is a real company name dharma you can lokk it in www.dharma.com there firm logo is "universal acsess to your data and applications" and the pupose of the company is "dharma systems allows you to provide universal acsess to your data and you haveapplications.enhance the systems you have already developed"
do you think there is any conection ?????

#31. Posted by: lior at October 5, 2005 4:53 AM

What is Dharma?
"Dharma" means "protection". By practising Buddha's teachings we protect ourself from suffering and problems. All the problems we experience during daily life originate in ignorance, and the method for eliminating ignorance is to practise Dharma.
Practising Dharma is the supreme method for improving the quality of our human life. The quality of life depends not upon external development or material progress, but upon the inner development of peace and happiness. For example, in the past many Buddhists lived in poor and underdeveloped countries, but they were able to find pure, lasting happiness by practising what Buddha had taught.
all taken fom this link
http://aboutdharma.org/index.php

#32. Posted by: lior at October 5, 2005 5:04 AM

Guess I better start paying more attention.... Is there anywhere online with recaps of the first seasons shows? Very interesting thread guys.

#33. Posted by: MaryAnn at October 5, 2005 8:21 PM

MaryAnn -- Funny you should ask! We have reviews for almost every show in the first season. Simply look toward the top-right of this page, then click on the "Lost Reviews" link.

#34. Posted by: Mac at October 5, 2005 8:42 PM

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#35. Posted by: gillian :) at October 6, 2005 11:23 AM

the numbers add up too 108

#36. Posted by: norm at October 6, 2005 11:30 AM

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gillian :)

#37. Posted by: gillian :) at October 6, 2005 11:51 AM

Howdy,
I'm new to this blog, and if I do a fau paux, please inform me nicely and try to refrain from FLAMES. I will be disclosing some possible spoilers. Thank you in advance.

Has anyone brought up that the Island may not be an "island" in the traditional sense of land surrounded by water? How about a possible space connection, like a space station that appears to be Earthbound, but is in reality hundreds of thousands of miles from Earth.

Here, check this out:
http://209.188.136.70/ralston/programs/itech/
SpaceSettlement/Contest/Results/2004/winner/LEDA.pdf

Notice the swan connection as seen on the letterhead and on the DHARMA insignia (a swan is also known as orbiting) (not to mention the connotations w/ the ugly duckling)(P.S. Dharma means "the world within", which a station like this would have to be, in order to be kept from being sucked into space).

Also, check out the bottom of page 21, especially the part about correcting course & attitude every 23 days (Hey ... isn't 23 one of the "magic" numbers?) On what day did some of the plane wreckage get pulled back into the ocean? On the 22nd night/early 23rd day they were there. If you move/correct course with comething with liquid in it, the liquid will move erratically. How much you wanna bet that on day 46 of their stranding, the ocean will do some whacky stuff again? They are on day 45 now, and unless we get a bunch more shows that are one-hour snippets, we should be able to test my theory, hopefully sooner than later.

I'm guessing that this station is "parked" behind the moon (AKA Earth-Moon L2), or maybe ~ possibly ~ behind the sun (opposite Earth, AKA Earth-Sun L3) someplace where radio waves from Earth don't go, and attitude adjustment is done about every 23 days, and you can "go on a race around the world" (but you always always tie with the moon) Here's some more nice sites:

http://www.l5news.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point#L4_and_L5

This might account for natural light in Desmond's quarters and darkness on the island, his quarters are on the "outside" of the structure, and would be getting sunlight every 15 seconds or so to a few minutes (depending on the size of the station) and the amount of rotations that it must go around in order to have some semblence of psudogravity. Also, space is a sweet place to do electromagnetic testing, due to no interference from the Earth's fields, low temperatures, and the vacuum of space.

How on Earth (or not on Earth) did they get there? Nanotechnology can do amazing things. Or a space Elevator (though that would be kinda hard to keep hidden). Or freezing time. As you can see, I'm still working on that one.

Well, I have to run, people. Any questions about the stuff I posted, please refer to the Encyclopedia of Astrobiology, Astronomy and Spaceflight:

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/F/Freitas.html

Happy Losting!

#38. Posted by: NasaDude at October 6, 2005 1:32 PM

Didn't Jin know how to speak English? I thought that it was a secret he was keeping from his wife, the same as she was keeping hers from him. That one threw me when he was so angry that she kept that from him, but he wouldn't divulge that HE knew English. Pride? Please tell me I haven't lost my mind and am having false memories....=)

#39. Posted by: Sistaire at October 6, 2005 2:21 PM

Thanks Mac... again, I need to pay more attention :) After reading this BB yesterday afternoon I watched last nights episode much more closely. My husband had a thought.... Jack is a nickname for John... possible its the same person meeting up with his future self later? I know going WAY out on a limb with that one, but lately with this show anything seems to be possible.

#40. Posted by: MaryAnn at October 6, 2005 6:42 PM

This may be a late question but it seems that at first Hurley's winning total was 150 or so million but he states its 114 million on the first episode this season. Am i just right or crazy?

#41. Posted by: Steve Christie at October 6, 2005 9:36 PM

Can someone direct me to a picture of the logo on the shark? I don't remember seeing it.

#42. Posted by: Sarah at October 7, 2005 2:49 PM

In the third episode of lost, did anybody see the front door in the hatch? The front door was a door of a ship.

Also, does anyone here think the 'others' are regular people that were on the back part of the plane that tore off?

#43. Posted by: lost_master at October 7, 2005 9:47 PM

hello in keldon jardine im 12 years old i love the show (lost) but me and my friends allwas talk about the mysterious creacher, i have a question what does the scary monster look like that every on is so afraid of? if u reply soon i will buy ur hole 2 seasons of the show!

#44. Posted by: keldon at October 8, 2005 11:17 PM

Dharma is related to the numbers if you assign a letter to each number based on alphabetical sequence. When you get to 27, your start over.

4: D is the 4th letter;
8: H is the 8th letter;
15: 4+8+15=27 which wraps back to A;
16: (4+8+15=27) plus (4+8+15+16=43) so (27+43=70) which translates to R;
23: 16+23=39 which is M;
42: (4+8+15+16+23=66) and (23+42=65) (65+66=131) which is an A;

So.. thats Dharma. Any thoughts?

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#46. Posted by: William Smith at December 4, 2005 3:49 AM

I've managed to save up roughly $74607 in my bank account, but I'm not sure if I should buy a house or not. Do you think the market is stable or do you think that home prices will decrease by a lot?

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