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Key Points from "Maternity Leave"
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Season 2, Episode 15 Episode Air Date: 03/01/06 |
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Remember Claire? Pretty girl ... likes peanut butter ... spent most of
last season huffing and puffing and wearing maternity wear ... got
kidnapped ... returned under mysterious circumstances ... and then we
didn't see her much after that.
Well, Claire is back, and this week, we find out what happened during her Season One kidnapping ordeal. But before we get into the meat of this episode, I need to take a moment to offer a bit of editorial comment. To me, "Maternity Leave" is one of those make or break episodes. By itself, it was incredibly disjointed -- characters did weird little things at weird little times (Eko cuts off a piece of his beard; Locke lets Henry Gale get under his skin) -- but it may turn out that this quirky episode is simply the beginning to something far grander and far more complex. If the "Lost" crew uses this episode as a springboard, I'm sure I'll fondly look back on the quirks and disjointedness and see the genius that hid beneath the confusing exterior. But if the season plays out and the plot threads woven into this episode are dropped without explanation, then I fear "Lost" is heading down the same convoluted road that ruined the final seasons of the "X-Files." Don't get me wrong: the "Lost" writers have done a bang-up job so far and I have a ton of faith in them, but episodes like this always make me nervous because the show is venturing into brand new territory, and that can be a spooky thing. But enough with my rambling, let's get to the stuff you came for ... The episode begins with a crying baby. Little Aaron has a fever and he's wailing like a banshee in the middle of the night. Newbie mom Claire tries to hush her squealing babe, but no amount of maternal care is going to abate the vicious fever attacking Aaron's immune system. Claire, realizing that "now now" doesn't have the curative effect of Children's Tylenol, wakes Locke and tells him she's going to go to the hatch to find Jack. Locke nixes Claire's plan, telling her it's ridiculous for her to go tromping through the jungle in the middle of the night. He volunteers to bring Jack back to the beach camp. So Locke zips into the dark woods and Claire returns to her "now nows" and "shut the hell ups." And that's when Crazy Danielle Rousseau suddenly appears. Everyone's favorite wacked-out French lady sidles next to Claire and scares the crap out of her. Rousseau, ever cheery and always helpful, offers up an unsolicited diagnosis of Aaron: "He's infected," she says. Now, I'm not a doctor or a therapist, but I'm pretty sure this is the worst thing you can say to a freaked-out mother. Claire bundles Aaron and clutches him to her chest. Her eyes grow wide with fear and anger (remember, Rousseau nabbed little Aaron back in "Exodus, Part 2," so you can understand why Claire isn't particularly thrilled to see her again). Unfortunately, it gets worse for poor Claire. Rousseau's reappearance sparks painful -- and repressed -- memories of her abduction. Claire's head is suddenly filled with images of a needle, and Evil Ethan and a brown-haired girl telling her she "you have to go." It's a confusing bombardment of disturbing visuals. Claire snaps back to the present and immediately realizes that her blocked-out memories are starting to return. At this point, Kate comes sprinting down the beach, planting herself between Claire and Rousseau. She gets right up in Rousseau's grill and tells her, in no uncertain terms, to get the hell out of their camp. It's a moment on-par with Ripley's "Get away from her, you bitch" quip. Seriously. This is Kate at her best -- no quivering lip, no woe-is-me I killed my daddy guilt, just a bad-ass out to protect her friend. I really hope this is a precursor to Kate's future development, because she's way more interesting when she's on the offensive. Rousseau, realizing that Kate is two seconds from unleashing hell on her face, darts into the jungle with her tail between her legs. Shortly thereafter, Jack arrives to offer a slightly more informed diagnosis of baby Aaron. Unlike Pediatrician Rousseau, Jack believes Aaron is suffering from what's known as a "fever" and, apparently, this is something "babies" often "get" because they're "babies" and that's what they do. It is not, according to Jack, the beginning of a mysterious infection that will ultimately ravage the Oceanic survivors and lay waste to their happy little island society. The subtext to this scene is: "Jesus Claire, it's a friggin fever. Now stop listening to crazy French ladies and go back to bed." The next morning, Claire's concern reaches a fever pitch (ha ha). Aaron's wee forehead continues to burn, causing Claire's imagination to shift into overdrive. She decides that Libby is her best hope. Yes. Libby. See, Claire believes that Libby can help her recover her lost memories. Furthermore, Claire has determined (I have no idea how) that these lost memories have a direct connection to Aaron's sickness, and, ultimately, a cure for her fever-afflicted child. Ooookay. As you can probably tell, Claire is a wee bit stressed at this point, and this stress has compelled her to ignore the professional advice of Dr. Jack and instead latch onto the totally implausible and very uninformed information that Crazy Danielle Rousseau has provided. In Claire's mind, Aaron doesn't have a simple fever; rather, he has a flesh-eating ebola bird flu that first presents as a simple fever. See the difference? It's very subtle. So Claire goes to Libby because she's heard through the grapevine that Libby is a shrink, and everyone knows that shrinks have uncanny Jedi powers that let them tap into the deep recesses of the human mind anytime they like (they can all do that kind of thing, right?). What Claire doesn't realize is that Libby's "clinical psychologist" credentials have not been verified. In fact, there are groups within the "Lost" fanbase that believe Libby is a compulsively lying loon who fancies herself a shrink but is, in fact, a lying loon. But that's a conversation for another time and place and episode ... So Libby the "shrink" sits with Claire and proceeds to walk her through a mind meld. Libby's technique is flawless -- breathing, relaxing, listening to the waves, visualizing, smoking primo cheeba. If she's a big faker, at least she's a skilled big faker. The mind meld begins to take hold. Suddenly, the same disturbing repressed images zip through Claire's mind -- a needle, a brown-haired girl -- but then the memory clicks into place and Claire begins to recall events in real-time. I'm going to pause a moment because this next bit includes a whole bunch of information, all of it layered within zippy memories. This episode features four of these "memory" segments, so, for the sake of all involved, I'm going to avoid the context and simply note the high points (describing the scenery within each of these segments would take thousands of words and time I just don't have). If I miss something vital, please post your own observations in the comments area below. Moving on ... In Memory Segment No. 1, we see/learn:
At this point, Claire has officially reached the apex of a full-on wig out. Her freshly recalled memories have convinced her that:
So Kate and Claire hatch a plan. They're going to track Rousseau because they believe she can lead them to the Medical Mystery Room (Context Note: Back in "Exodus, Part 2" Claire had a brief recollection of Rousseau being somehow involved in her abduction; she even remembered clawing Rousseau's forearm during a struggle. This previous recollection has led Claire to conclude that Rousseau knows where the Medical Mystery Room can be found.). So, Kate heads off to ask Sawyer for a gun -- remember, he's now the self-appointed gun dispenser -- and Claire drops Aaron off with Sun. And that's when Claire has another memory flashback. In Memory Segment No. 2, we see/learn:
So Kate and Claire tromp into the jungle, hot on Rousseau's trail. Kate uses her tracking skills to weave deep into the trees. Truthfully, the only tracking tool she needs is a decent sense of smell. After 16 years in a tropical environment with no discernible hygiene equipment, Rousseau is letting off a scent that could knock out a water buffalo. As Kate and Claire travel into the woods, Claire asks Kate about Rousseau. The two spent time together during their excursion to the Black Rock ("Exodus Parts 1 and 2"), so Claire correctly concludes that Kate must have learned something about their crazy French neighbor. Kate, without thinking, tells Claire that all of the members of Rousseau's science expedition died. Whoopsie. "How?" Claire asks. "Uhh, the trail ends here!" Kate says. "Yup! Sure does! No trail at all. Hey, how about that black horse I saw? Pretty weird, right? You ever play I Never? I played once with Sawyer and it was awes..." An accented voice cuts Kate off ... "They were infected," says Rousseau, suddenly appearing. (I bet Rousseau is a big hit at parties: "Hey Danielle, can you pass the cocktail weenies?" "They were infected." "Uhhh, nevermind.") Rousseau's sudden appearance causes Claire to snap. She marches up to Rousseau and orders her to take them to the spot where Claire scratched her. Claire is on a roll at this point -- she tells Rousseau that she remembers. She remembers the Medical Mystery Room. She remembers the medicine. She remembers the teenage girl ... Rousseau's eyes light up. Teenage girl? Without a moment's hesitation or argument, Rousseau agrees to Claire's demand. She, Claire and Kate then head off to the scratching location. But when they arrive, there's a wee problem. You see, Claire believes Rousseau is affiliated with her kidnappers and, as such, she would know the location of the Medical Mystery Room. Rousseau, on the other hand, misinterpreted Claire's "I remember" comments and now she thinks that Claire has remembered how to find the Medical Mystery Room. The problem is, neither of them know where the Medical Mystery Room is actually located. At this point, Rousseau flips out. She pushes angrily toward Claire. "You lied!" she barks, grabbing Claire's shoulders. "Hey! Get your hands off of her!" Kate shouts, training her pistol on Rousseau. And this is when Rousseau illustrates what 16 solitary years on a wacked out island can do to a person ... Rousseau walks toward Kate, taking slow steps. Closer ... closer ... her breastbone presses against the gun barrel. "Go ahead," Rousseau says softly. "Please. Do it." Unfortunately for Rousseau, Kate only kills people with poorly orchestrated gas explosions. Rousseau will live ... for now. During Rousseau and Kate's "moment," Claire wanders into a nearby clearing. Kate calls out for her, but Claire can't answer right now because she's just discovered an odd tree trunk sitting in the middle of dense foliage. Claire's arbor discovery is about to summon another Memory Moment, which brings us to Memory Segment No. 3. In this latest memory installment, we see/learn:
A metal door with a Dharma logo painted smack dab in the middle. The logo sports the caduceus symbol, which means that Claire is very close to finding her Medical Mystery Room. Claire and Kate crack the door and peer down a ramp into a dark hallway. It's the same hallway Claire groggily looked up during her first Memory Segment. Back then, the corridors were lit by bright fluorescent lights, but now, a single flickering light sparks on and off from within. Claire, Kate and Rousseau move into the corridor. Kate finds a conveniently placed utility box housing three flashlights (what are the odds?). Kate sets off to find the electric power source while Rousseau and Claire move deeper into the medical bunker. Claire knows where she's going. She walks down the hallway toward a familiar door. Claire pushes the door handle and moves her flashlight over the room's light blue walls. The light reveals a rocking chair sitting in the middle of the cleared-out room. Suddenly, fluorescent light fills the room and a generator whirs to life in the background (Kate is remarkably adept at finding Dharma's power sources -- you'll recall she did something very similar when the castaways uncovered the first hatch). And this brings us to a Very Interesting Development ... While Claire and Rousseau look over the tattered remains of the nursery, Kate uncovers some tattered remains of her own. She moves into a nearby locker room. Looking around, she cracks a locker and that's when she discovers that the Others share an unusual hobby with the cast of "Les Miserables": Both groups like to dress up in dirty tattered shirts and ratty wool hats! Kate paws through a collection of gnarled and soiled shirts and pants. Dumbfounded, she looks down and sees a wooden box sitting at the bottom of the locker. She cracks the lid and finds ... theatrical glue and a fake brown beard. Let's take a moment to consider the ramifications of this discovery:
Alas, the answers are not available, so we'll instead turn our attention to the matter at hand ... As Kate rifles through the "Les Mis" wardrobe, Claire looks around the nursery. She sees the blue booty she knitted for Aaron lying on the floor. Her eyes zone in on the booty (as eyes often do when confronted by interesting booty) and she gets that twitchy Memory Feeling. This brings us to Memory Segment No. 4. In this final Memory Segment we see/learn:
The Medical Mystery Room is disheveled and abandoned. The stainless steel medicine cabinet is turned over. Claire asks Rousseau to help her lift the cabinet, but Rousseau's eyes are glazed and she doesn't hear Claire's request (either that or she's a huge biotch). Kate hears Claire's yelp for help and rushes from the locker room. Together, the two prop up the medicine cabinet, but when Claire cracks the door she's met with an icy blast of disappointment: the cabinet is completely empty. Anger wells in Claire. "The vaccine was in here!" She turns toward Rousseau. "Tell me where it is! Tell me!" Claire's vitriol causes the twitchy memory feeling to flare up ... and Memory Segment No. 4 continues:
"You weren't trying to take me back, were you?" she asks Rousseau. "You were trying to save me." "I carried you on my back to your camp," Rousseau says quietly. "I left you where they would find you." "I'm sorry," Claire gulps. Rousseau turns to walk off. "Where are you going?" Claire asks desperately. Rousseau turns slowly. "You're not the only one who didn't find what they were looking for," Rousseau says. Shortly thereafter, Claire, Kate and Rousseau exit the medical hatch together. As they move through the woods, they pass two large trees with deep gashes cut into the bark. Rousseau stops and announces that this is where she turns back (I'm assuming the gashed trees are some sort of marker she uses). Before Rousseau departs, Claire asks her about her daughter. Rousseau reveals that her full name is Alexandra. "I remember a girl," Claire says. "A girl with blue eyes." Rousseau's face scrunches and tears well in her own blue eyes. The moment lasts a few beats and it at first appears that everyone will depart with a heartfelt and fitting goodbye. But Rousseau just can't help herself ... "i'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for," Rousseau says. "But I hope your baby's not infected. But if it is, I hope you know what must be done." OH COME ON. Rousseau can't just leave it alone. Oh no. She can't just walk off to her subterranean jungle lair content with the knowledge that at least one person on the island thinks she's a good egg. Nope. She's got to screw it up all up with one of her "dire predictions." So anyway, the Claire-Kate-Rousseau adventure ends. In the episode's final moments, Jack checks on Aaron and says his fever has broken and he's on the mend (Rousseau will be so disappointed). Claire is relieved because now she won't have to get all embarrassed when she has to ask Charlie to drown her infected baby in a mercy killing/baptism. In the final Claire scene, she sits alone with Aaron and puts the blue knitted booty into his hand. Aaron grabs the thing and immediately shoves it into his mouth, which is completely disgusting since it's been on the floor of an abandoned Dharma hatch for who knows how long (if he wasn't infected before, he sure is now!). As Aaron gnaws on the booty, Claire tells Aaron that she now knows that they're supposed to be together. "We're supposed to take care of each other," Claire says tearfully. "You're mine and I love you, I love you so much." And with that, the Claire story ends. Now that everything is neatly tied up, expect her to be mauled by a polar bear in the season finale. |
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Jack and Locke's bitchfest continues this week as they bicker over the handling
of alleged Other Henry Gale. You'll recall that Henry was captured by
Rousseau and then tortured by Sayid. Since then, he's been locked up
on the hatch armory.
The only thing Jack and Locke have agreed upon is the need to keep Henry's existence -- and his incarceration -- a secret. As it stands, they've been reasonably successful in this endeavor, but that's because they've been dealing with "normal" castaways who get submissive in the presence of alpha male egos. But in this episode, Eko catches on to their little scheme. Honestly, it doesn't take much for Eko to uncover the Big Secret. Eko simply visits the hatch and notices that a cot is set up in the armory. Later, he asks Jack if he can speak with the prisoner. Jack, sensing that Eko is not a man to be toyed with, doesn't bother to feign ignorance. He grants Eko's request and that sets up an intriguing little scene toward the end of the episode ... Eko enters the armory and shuts the door behind him. He extends his hand to Henry Gale and quietly asks for permission to sit down. He then proceeds to recollect how, on his first night on the island, he was dragged into the jungle by two Others. He tells Gale that he killed these two men. And this is when Eko decides to throw a curve ball. "I need you to know how sorry I am for this," Eko says. "I need you to know that I am back on a righteous path now. And that I regret my actions. I ask you for your forgiveness." Gale is incredulous. "Why are you telling me this?" Eko looks down his nose at Gale. "Because I needed to tell someone," he growls. Eko then reaches down and lifts a long hunting night from his belt. Gale is startled by the sudden appearance of a HUGE blade. But Eko has no intention of slicing Gale into Gale-cabobs. Eko shifts the blade and brings it toward his own throat (at this point I was screaming "HOLY CRAP! DON'T DO THAT!"). Without blinking, he grabs that one long tuft of beard hair growing from his chin and cuts it off in a single swift motion. He holds the sprig of hair so Gale can get a good long look at it, then he places the sprig on the cot, rises and knocks on the armory door. As the door opens, Henry Gale looks up at the huge figure with the now-trimmed beard and there, in that moment, he realizes that he's just come face to face with the island's biggest, baddest man. Now, I honestly have no idea what this scene was supposed to tell me, nor do I know why Eko cut off his beard sprig. Nonetheless, it was awesome. |
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Locke is losing his mojo. Perhaps it's the monotony of pushing a
button every 108 minutes that's got him down, but for the last few
episodes, Locke hasn't been his normal Obi-Wan self.
Take, for example, his run-in with Henry Gale ... In this episode, there's a moment early on when Locke, in one of his typical witticisms, randomly asks Jack if he knows that Ernest Hemingway was forever haunted by the thought of being in Fyodor Dostoevsky's shadow. Jack blows off the entire thing. Later, however, Henry Gale asks Locke about the Hemingway story, which surprises Locke since he didn't realize Gale could hear through the armory wall. Gale, feeling chatty, says he likes Hemingway's writing -- he's a guy who ran with the bulls and fought in the Spanish Civil War. "That's stuff I can wrap my brain around," Gale says, "this [Gale points to a Dostoevsky book sitting in the armory] I can't get through five pages of." Locke, who can't resist the urge to pontificate, points out Dostoevsky's virtues. "He was a genius, for one," Locke says. "Bullfighting isn't everything." Hook ... line ... and sinker ... Locke just fell into Gale's mind trap. Gale looks up. "So which one are you?" he asks. "Are you the genius, or are you the guy who always feels like he's living in the shadow of a genius?" Locke is thrown. The question cuts to the heart of his pre-island insecurities. "I was ...," Locke stumbles. "I was never much into literary analysis." With that, Locke moves toward the door. But Gale isn't done just yet ... "I just don't understand why you let the doctor call the shots," Gale says. Locke stops dead in his tracks. "No one calls the shots," Locke says defiantly. "Jack and I make decisions together." "Right ... okay," Gale says, shifting his gaze down. "My mistake." Locke eyeballs Gale, then quietly exits and locks the armory. He moves toward a pile of dishes by the hatch kitchen sink, but in that moment, something snaps. He whips his arm across the counter and sprays dishes and plates across the hatch. The scene cuts to Gale inside the armory. As dishes clatter outside, he raises his head. He doesn't smile or smirk, but it appears to be an outcome that pleases him. |
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I'll close with a couple if character observations:
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Next Episode:
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"Whatever
the Case May Be" (repeat) -- A metal suitcase holds clues to
Kate's past. It also holds guns. Lots and lots of guns.. Airs:
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Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc. |
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Posted by Mac on March 2, 2006 11:38 AM | Email This
I haven't finished reading this yet, but I had to say that the following statement is the funniest thing I've seen all week:
"Aaron is suffering from what's known as a "fever" and, apparently, this is something "babies" often "get" because they're "babies" and that's what they do."
Good stuff.
Maybe when Eko was cutting his hair off he was telling Henry that he is giving up his power (like when Samson had his hair cut in the bible). It might have also been a sign of fealty to the others because we really don't know what Mr. Eko learned when he stared into the Black Mist a couple of episodes ago. Just a thought.
→ 3. Posted by: joshsturgill at March 2, 2006 12:13 PMThe mobile with the little airplane - was the music that was playing really "Catch A Falling Star?" Isn't that the same song that Claire asked the potential adoptive parents to sing to her baby because her parents sang that song to her to help her fall asleep? How did the Others know about that?!
→ 4. Posted by: Shannon at March 2, 2006 12:13 PMWell, up until this episode I thought that Zeke was kind of the "leader" of The Others, but after he says the following I am not sure:
"Well, what am I supposed to tell him? You know what he's gonna do when he finds out."
Anyone have any ideas who 'he' might be?
Am I correct in understanding that Kate's step-father = Sayid's CIA contact = Zeke?
Can't wait for the "Walt Episode" where we get to see where he has been and what he has been up to the last couple weeks; not to mention Michael as well.
Great synopsis Mac! I enjoy the periodic humor in your writing.
Oh, one more thing. Is this a 24 episdoe season? I was looking at an episode guide and only saw about three more upcoming episodes listed.
→ 5. Posted by: Hunter MacLean at March 2, 2006 12:14 PMI love the fact that Claire was first knocked out by (possibly) Rousseau's daughter, and then by Rousseau herself.
→ 6. Posted by: Matt at March 2, 2006 12:15 PMAnyone else find the music played in the crib a bit too familiar... Didn't Claire parents play that for her when she was young. ALso... wasn't that one of Claire's request to the new parents (of Aaron) to play that for him once he was born....
hmmmm How much of their past lives do these ppl know. Just a bit to think about... These ppl were put on this Island purposely. It wasn't an accident...
or Claire's flashbacks are just whacked and didn't really happen...
→ 7. Posted by: Phil Zoop at March 2, 2006 12:16 PMIt is me, or did Ethan have a Dharma keychain? I need to gets me one of those...
→ 8. Posted by: Wes at March 2, 2006 12:16 PMI decided to research how many epidodes Season Two was scheduled to have. Turns out there were 4 "unaired" Season One episodes (I have no idea what this means) that aired this season that bring Season Two's total to 26 epidoes. But with LOST taking several-week breaks between new ep's, I can't imagine how we'll get to 26 by the "standard" end of the network television season.
→ 9. Posted by: KG at March 2, 2006 12:19 PMRegarding the lullaby heard, I found this transcript on lostfic.com:
Charlie saying to claire:
"You wrote in your diary that you like this lullaby, and that your dad used to sing it to you when you were a baby. You even wrote that you'd like to sing it to your..." Charlie trailed off.
She obviously has an emotional attachment to this song. Whether The Others actually know about this or her memory placed it in there we don't know (yet?).
→ 10. Posted by: Hunter MacLean at March 2, 2006 12:26 PMTwo comments...
First, you omitted one part of the closing conversation between Claire and Rousseau that may be very important. Claire essentially told Rousseau that her daughter was with the Others and had saved her, and that Rousseau's daughter was "good", not like the other Others. This had a dramatic effect on Rousseau, and may now give her a stronger will to live (remember, earlier she had kind of pleaded with Kate to go ahead and kill her).
Second, what the hell is Jack thinking by letting Henry run around with only one person watching him. I'm not talking about the mind games Henry is playing, but rather the combat training that the Others have displayed. Jack doesn't know that Goodwin broke a mans neck, BUT Jack did witness the hand-to-hand savagery that the Others are capable of when Ethan beat the crap out of him. How can he let Henry, a possible Other, be alone with any single person?! You just KNOW that, at some point, Henry is going to unleash that Ninja training.
→ 11. Posted by: Buck41 at March 2, 2006 12:28 PMI think Eko cutting his beard was another act of contrition for his sins, like the 40-days of not speaking. In some cultures, people cut their hair in an act of grief or contrition.
→ 12. Posted by: christina at March 2, 2006 12:40 PMSuperb summary as usual - I was surprised that you didn't comment on Henry's "hearing", however. It was interesting that Henry was apparently able to clearly hear what was going on outside of the armory, though neither Jack nor Locke were able to hear what was going on inside during Eko's session and very little of Sayid's interrogation. Jack even said that he'd heard nothing during his watch - Jack may not be a good listener, but his hearing is probably okay.
Would this be attributable to Henry's acutely advanced auditory capabilities (perhaps genetically enhanced?), or is he getting some help from a special Dharma-brand hearing aid or other device? I'm guessing he's planted there to recover something from that hatch - perhaps Desmond's stash of "vaccine"?
One other random question, related to Desmond - I haven't seen any speculation posted about whether he's an "other," though that would seem the most likely. There's been very little questioning about his crashing during a round-the-world race but quite a lot about Henry's balloon crash. Perhaps Desmond is an other with travel perks to visit the real world from time-to-time to identify future island vacationers?
→ 13. Posted by: MAD108 at March 2, 2006 12:42 PMI think its safe to say that since Desmond was working for Dharma, and the Others are Dharma people, then he was an "Other" also.
→ 14. Posted by: christina at March 2, 2006 12:44 PMAnother great review Mac. My favorite line this week was:
> It would appear that the Others have
> chosen to dress like hobos for their
> public appearances. Why? Lord only
> knows.
I thought that this was a great episode. Although we did end up with more total questions than we started with, at least we did get some answers.
I was in the camp that thought that there were two different groups of "Others", but the "hobo" costumes and the clean-shaven Zeke pretty much prove that there is only one group of "Others", they are connected to Dharma, and they are running the place. But, I'm still not sure what is the deal with Desmond and if the clock is anything more than a social experiment.
My biggest concern with the Claire island flashbacks is that they may not be entirely true. Keep in mind that she was heavily drugged while under Ethan's "care". For example, I'm guessing that the lullaby was from her past and may not have been actually playing in the Dharma nursery center.
I know that a lot of people don't like the pace. To be honest and flip back and forth nearly every week; but, overall I do think that the pacing is good. I mean, they want this show to last a number of years, so they can't give us all of the answers today. This isn't a 6-part miniseries. I do guarentee that when season 2 comes out of DVD, they will be selling like hot cakes (well, at least for the geeks like us that frequent this site) so that we can sit down and watch them all... without commercials... and most importantly... without waiting three weeks (that's 21 days) to see a followup episode.
Marty.
Does anyone remember Kates favorite possesion was a little airplane she got years ago? Maybe from a simalar Baby room!!
→ 16. Posted by: wilcoy at March 2, 2006 12:47 PMYeah, the first thing I thought of when I saw that plane mobile was Kate's little plane.
→ 17. Posted by: christina at March 2, 2006 12:47 PMHenry's manipulation of Locke convinced me of his bad intentions. He's a mole, working them over from the inside, to create dissent. What do you bet this has been their plan since they 'opened up' the hatch? Before, it was basically all but impossible to get in. Now, it's a lot more relaxed. After all, Eko just strolled in, right? If Henry had 1 minute alone, what do you bet he would be typing away on that keyboard, i.e. "I'm in, what do you want me to do?" The button and the countdown, whatever they are, are important enough that it's worth the risk to gain control of them back. Also, I noticed in the previews, there was a nice moment where Locke referenced it as "MY hatch", that should prove very interesting.
→ 18. Posted by: The Duf at March 2, 2006 12:55 PMJust to follow up on the plane carousel, the plane that Kate has is her friends favorite toy as a kid. It wasn't from a baby room. At least I think.
→ 19. Posted by: db at March 2, 2006 12:59 PMYou forgot the "best line of the week" moment, when Eko was about to speak to Henry:
Locke: "If the alarm starts to go off, don't tell him what it's for."
Eko: "What IS it for?"
Locke: (Dumbfounded look.)
When the Fall TV season was upon us(last August) ABC reported signing a contract for 23 LOST episodes!!!
→ 21. Posted by: JT at March 2, 2006 1:09 PMWhen Claire was alone with Ethan in the medical room the Muzak playing reminded me of something
old and WW II related, unsure what exactly. Also
when Locke served Henry food I was hoping Henry
would have jumped up and knocked out Locke with
the green bowl.
Great review of a great episode. I've got a two questions...
1) When is the next new episode to air? Someone mentioned only 3 new ones coming up. Why oh Why do they do this to us!!!
2) The vaccine. If I remember correctly, Desmond took some vaccine with him when he quickly departed the hatch. I thought I saw more of the vaccine in the cabinet/fridge. Shouldn't the leftovers still be there? Wouldn't Jack/Locke/anybody have found it? If the cabinet is locked (I truly don't remember is Desmond had to open the cabinet with a key) but Locke seems to be pretty handy with locks.
→ 23. Posted by: GeekyGal at March 2, 2006 1:22 PMPerhaps Eko was just showing Henry that his knife was really sharp and he could kill him at anytime.
→ 24. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 2, 2006 1:26 PMRe: Walt/Michael
I read somewhere... it may have even been here (sorry if this is a double posting) that the actor who plays Michael is no longer living in Hawaii. So I doubt he'll be playing a huge role anymore. And the actor who plays Walt apparently had a huge growth spurt (imagine that) and looks nothing like the Walt on the milk carton, so they will probably have to re-cast the role, kill him off, or re-write the storyline, because as we all know in LOST time, it's only been 50 days (or something close to that)
→ 25. Posted by: GeekyGal at March 2, 2006 1:27 PMHenry Gale, I believe, was also the name of Dorothy's uncle in "The Wizard of Oz," which also featured a hot air balloon incident! There can't be anything to that piece of information, but it is interesting...
→ 26. Posted by: Melbu at March 2, 2006 1:28 PMHenry has stirred the Locke Jack pot and we should see some conflict steam up in a few months when the new episodes return.
I am thinking we will have a big Locke episode soon with Jack/Locke full bore on the island and some back story goodies about Locke as a lowly wheelchair bound nobody. I am also expecting the Locke's dad is Sawyer's Sawyer revelation soon.
Hunter....
You are not correct. Kates step father was the army Seargent who asked Sayid to translate. The CIA/DIA guy with the beard was the one who gave him the torture tools. These two are very different looking people seen in Sayid's flashback. "Zeke" and the clean shaven "other" in the hallway are the same guy, but a third totally different person not seen in the Said episode at all.
→ 27. Posted by: KillJackOff at March 2, 2006 1:33 PMFor those commenting about Henry Gale and the Wizard of Oz, please be sure to check out the thread on the last episode since this was discussed in great detail (http://www.filmfodder.com/tv/lost/archives/002270.shtml).
As for upcoming episodes:
March 08: Whatever the case may be (repeat)
March 15: House of the rising sun (repeat)
March 22: The Whole Truth (new -- yay!)
March 29: Lockdown (new -- yay!)
Marty.
→ 28. Posted by: Marty at March 2, 2006 1:34 PMI'm glad someone mentioned the food. I know this is stupid and insignificant but what was on the first plate of food they gave Henry? It looked like meat and potatoes (and why did Jack have to carry it in on a tray, is he a waiter now?). Where did they get this food from? Also, a little later on you see Locke scraping food off a plate into the garbage. Does he not realize he is on an island in the middle of no where with no grocery store? Why would you throw any food away?
→ 29. Posted by: M.E. at March 2, 2006 1:36 PM
The next two new episodes are on the 22nd and 29th. I don't know if there are any scheduled after that. There will be a total of 24 hours of Lost in season 2 with a total of 23 episodes (2 hour finale?). We just saw #15 so we have 8 left I think.
To piggy-back on what Buck41 said....the others have that "good" list too, you know, and there were many references to "good" people in this episode...
Didn't Desmond take a stash of vaccine from the hatch as he left??? But, I didn't think he took it all....so why couldn't Claire have gotten more vaccine from the hatch????
Ok, now for my own questions...help me, fellow LOSTIES...
There has been some debate today at work over the following: Did Ethan give the needle in Claire's stomach/womb as:
-a vaccine for the baby?
-a vaccine for Claire?
-an infection for the baby?
-an infection for Claire?
I thought it was vaccine for the baby based on what Ethan said to her "there is not enough vaccine for you and the baby..." so....why would the baby then be "infected" (according to Rousseau (sidenote: Mac, your description of Rousseau as a party guest in your review was by far the best stuff this week...) who seems to know this stuff...)? Wouldn't it then be Claire who would get sick? Or, did Ethan infect the baby with that needle? B/c at what point did we, the viewers, get confirmation that the strange little liquid in the Dharma vials is in fact a vaccine and not an infection? Just because Desmond took the shots too doesn't mean he was protecting himself, does it? Maybe he was just told to take the stuff and did....after all, we have a group of people who blindly punch those buttons in every 108 minutes too, don't we????
Also, I thought it said "ejection hatch" on the door in the hallway during one of Claire's flashbacks....anyone notice this?
I think Eko recognizes Henry from the attacks his original group experienced in their first nights....come on...everything he does is calculated....did you really believe he told Henry about killing them because he just wanted to tell "someone"????
→ 31. Posted by: vikki at March 2, 2006 1:41 PMWow. Great Episode (and review, Mac). What really puzzled me about this episode was how fast the 'Others' in the medical hatch vacated and disasmebled their premises (including the fuzzy animals on the walls). Jack stated last night that they had been on the island for two months...This puts Aaron at just about 4 weeks old. So in four weeks the Others in the medical hatch have completely disappeared and disasembled what appeared to be a pretty popular and vital hub in Other-land. Did they vacate because Claire escaped??? I assume so- but am trying to recall the circumstance of Ethan's death in relation to the escape of Claire. Maybe someone can put that into perspective for me. I remember Ethan coming for her and then being shot to death by Charlie....This episode really opened up a can of worms- they Dharma theatrical glue blew me away along with the closet full of hobo clothes. In my opinion Aaron was vital for the 'life-extension' project being conducted, and Walt for the 'psycic' experiment (both posted on the Hanso website when it was working)....but the fact that the Others have retreated from the respective hatches and abandoned experiments is tying me in knots...Also, I liked how the Others used torches to find Claire when we know there were flashlights readily available.
→ 32. Posted by: ajudicator at March 2, 2006 1:48 PMWhat if whatever they've injected into Claire/Baby is actually some sort of virus (at first) and then afterwards every shot is an antidote to that virus - so that Claire would be FORCED to leave Aaron with them or else he would not survive.
Additionally, what role did this episode have in teaching Claire a lesson? She originally was planning to put Aaron up for adoption...now she doesn't want to live without him. Are the Others just trying to teach each character a lesson applicable in non-island real life? (Maybe this is what Henry is trying to do with Locke?)
Great job on the posting - just started reading this season and I'm loving being able to re-examine each episode the next day!
→ 33. Posted by: Adam at March 2, 2006 1:51 PMGood review and I agree Mac, the character transitions are really puzzling and scary at the same time - I hope they lead somewhere. They still have a lot of things to tie together before the end of the season.
Where the hell is Walt and where is Michael - everyone's like forgotten him.
As far as the 'injections' go, I believe that it is another social experiment. I think that it is a placebo. As far as the others, they believe that without the fake vaccine they will die? At far as using the leftover vaccine left by desmond, I don't think that it realistic to inject a anyone, especially a baby with a vile of some strange substance expecially when he has no clue what it does and if nobody needs it. This could be why the others are so reluctant to share there supplies with the new castaways? Just some ideas, any thoughts?
→ 35. Posted by: db at March 2, 2006 2:02 PMDo I recall seeing Libby in the background when Claire and Ethan were leaving the compound and sitting on the tree stump?
→ 36. Posted by: blarry at March 2, 2006 2:05 PMonce again great review mac(loved the booty line!). this episode definitely cleared up quite a bit of stuff(thank God!) but also opened up another whole can of questions!!
what in the world has happened to Locke?? it is so disgusting seeing him crumble like this. i hope we get a good explanation of this and of how he ended up in the wheelchair in the first place very soon.
how about mr ecko!!! did he kick a** or what!! neither jack nor obi-locke can stand up to the charisma of this guy. i am sure he knows that henry is an other and that is why he told him about killing the "other" two and i think he just wanted him to know that he knows.
i don't think that the baby was infected at all. i think jack was right about it just being a fever and as for the vaccines, well, they probably were drugs that are maybe used to convince people that dharma is good(recall that desmond used them to avoid getting sick and that is why he took them and maybe he was being manipulated by the drugs to stay in the hatch and press the buttons??) where the hell is desmond anyway?
i too was amazed at how fast the new hatch had been abandoned but somehow they forgot the theatrical clothes and accessories and the flashlights(how convenient was that!). and will kate and claire tell jack et al about the new hatch? it sure seems like a more safer place to stay than the beach and is bigger too.
what do you guys think this epi added to what we know about the others and dharma? for one we know that they have trained doctors/ surgeons. we also found out that zeke is not the leader but there is someone else who was probably really pissed off. any other thoughts?
the oceanic planes in the nursery really blew me off man! that is one connection that was totally unexpected. as for the song/lullaby, i think they could have just found out about that from claire's diary like charlie did. but i could be wrong!!
well, enough of my ramblings. lets hear more guys. now that most of the theories that we had come up with have been proven wrong, lets come up with more!!
→ 37. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 2:07 PMIt's obvious that Claire was drugged up and didn't realize what she was saying (about flying to LA), but it's interesting that the writers initially wanted to give the impression that the first memory scene happened before the crash. Impossible obviously, since Claire didn't routinely make maternity doctor visits to a remote island! (And she would've recognized Ethan as her 'doc' when she first saw him on the island. I'm good at pointing out the obvious...)
My impression from what Ethan said was that they were vaccinating the baby while he was still in the womb. Pretty dangerous to do blindly since there is the potential for the long needle to poke an eye out or do some other irreperable harm to the kid. And obviously this baby was important to the Others, so maybe they were vaccinating Claire which would in turn keep Aaron safe. But if that was the case, they could've given it to her somewhere other than the belly. The fact that they did it so far into her belly leads me to believe Ethan's shot was intended for the inutero kid.
Kate would be a damn fool to give the gun back to Sawyer.
I always argued the fact that I think Eko really is a priest. But why then does he introduce himself as 'Mr. Eko' instead of 'Father Eko'? I guess it'll take another of his backstories to fully answer that question.
I still don't understand why more of these Lostaways aren't spending more time in the hatch. It's the one place for them on the island that has modern amenities, and would 'feel' like a regular home. I'd insist on sleeping in there, even on the cold hard floor. Especially with evil Others lurking in the forest shadows.
Loved how Hurley was hanging out with Libby on the beach. I hope he scores soon!
Speaking of scoring, looks like Jin has been getting some lately since the preview showed Sun asking Sawyer for a preggo test. That is an interesting development for long term in this show- we know how much the Others love babies!
I'm not fond of the idea that the Others/Dharma caused the crash that stranded our Losties. There just was no guarantee that anyone would survive. That's some serious conjecture being created through the Oceanic baby-mobile thing. Time will tell I suppose.
→ 38. Posted by: JoePike at March 2, 2006 2:10 PMi agree with db about the vaccines and not using them because they don't even know what they are. besides, i don't think the rest of the castaways even know about those vaccines. do they even know about desmond? i have never heard anyone else who didn't see him in the hatch talk about him.
it was great seeing sawyer being his smart-ass self when he told kate he would ask her why she wanted the guns and then tells her to watch while he does it.
→ 39. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 2:12 PMDidn't anyone else hear the loud alarm going off in every one of Claire's flashbacks? And later, when it showed her lying in the middle of the jungle after the young girl helped her escape, the same alarm can be faintly heard in the background. It appears to have some significance. Perhaps this was how they alerted each other when someone escapes.
Also, Ethan told Claire while they were "walking" that he would've taken her out sooner, but his friends are afraid she'll run away. I think they abandoned ship after Claire escaped and Ethan got killed because they feared a Lostaway revolt.
Does anyone else think Claire's psychic in Australia knew about this? He remarked that danger surrounds her baby and that he can't be raised by anyone but her. But, was he necessarily talking about the DIA people planning on taking him from her, or was he talking about anyone else in general raising him?
Ever since the episode in Season 1 that illustrated Claire's backstory I have been wondering if they will ever explain why the psychic was horrified when he looked into Claire and her baby's future. No one has pointd this out yet, but I believe that this has been explained now by this episode. When the psychic implored Claire that she must raise the baby herself, I believe he was obviously seeing the repurcussions of a Other-raised Aaron. I believe this tells us the others are bad and have bad intentions for those they kidnap and Dharma overall is evil.
Also, I believe that this episode further proved that Henry Gale is an other. Ecko, who seems to be clairvoyant, or a very good judge of character at the least, choose to apologize to Henry. I believe this is because he knew Gale was an other and Ecko was apologizing for killing his friends.
→ 41. Posted by: Eric at March 2, 2006 2:34 PMI think that Eko is actually an Other and he feels like he sinned having killed 2 of his "mates". I think he was sending a message thru Henry Gale to tell "Him" that he was back on the "right" path. Maybe he views whoever the Him is on the island as "God". I do think that the plane was brought down on purpose by their electromagnetic experiment. Since they seem to know everything about who was on the plane--why couldn't Eko have been a "plant" on the plane and possibly be part of the "long life" experiment. I know, really, really reaching but can't help it!!
What's up with the trees though??
Also, interesting that Sawyer's glasses use to be black and white and now they are one color-neutral brown. What was he reading?
I thought this was an excellent episode, in that it advanced the story of "The Others" somewhat, and also filled in holes that had been unanswered, such as what Claire had been doing for those two weeks.
I would also like to point out that this was the first episode that included a backstory that did not happen prior to the crash of Oceanic Flight 815.
I also don't understand why Kate didn't continue exploring. Who finds a mysterious bunker, finds mysterious things in it, that could answer a ton of questions, and leaves without tearing that place apart. There could have been useful items for the castaways.
Since I watched the episode from itunes, I missed the upcoming scenes. Can anyone fill me in on what's coming up.
→ 43. Posted by: Trev at March 2, 2006 2:51 PMClaire wanted the song on the carousel to be played for her baby because it was played for her as a child. Maybe the others didn't "find this out" but instead it is the same carousel that they used for her.
→ 44. Posted by: wilcoy at March 2, 2006 3:17 PMEcho is a catholic priest and all he did was have a confession. Catholic's believe that by telling your sin to another person and "asking" for forgiveness will abolish one of that sin. Psychologically, saying out loud to someone what you have done make it more real in the confessors mind, making them more apt to deal with the problem. They are essentially sharing it with someone. I think it is one of the best things Catholics have to offer and one of the most misunderstood.
→ 45. Posted by: Theoldred at March 2, 2006 3:26 PMhey dale, sawyer lost his old glasses on the raft and said he found new ones-that is why they are a different color.
as for ecko, he couldn't be an other as we have seen his backstory and it doesn't add up to him being an other at all-he would have tried to save his brother on the drug plane if he was an other.
→ 46. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 3:29 PMTheoldred...you have NO idea what you are talking about.
→ 47. Posted by: Donna D at March 2, 2006 3:31 PMI am sorry if this is a really stupid question, but was there any flashback stories like there usually are in Lost?? Or was it the Claire 'on the islnad being kidnapped' flashbacks??
Also, what do the others want with her baby? They seemed willing to go to extreme lengths to get it, what with preparing to cut open Claire and everything!!
What is the next season 2 episode called, and who is it focusing on??
Finally, (and i promise that this is my last point) does anyone have or know anywhere i can download any Hurley clips and the song Wash Away by Joe Purdy (played at the end of S1 Ep3). Both the clips and the song are urgently needed!!
...and now i will let you get back on with surfing the Internet...
:)
→ 48. Posted by: Vicki at March 2, 2006 3:36 PMYeah, Confession is an actual Catholic sacrament that can only be 'heard' by a priest. So Eko wasn't receiving the sacrament of confession as far as Catholic dogma goes, he was just 'getting off his chest' so to speak. I'm sure his intentions and the reasoning behind his cutting the 2 pieces off of his beard will be revealed soon. I like the idea of them representing the 2 Others he killed, and he is 'letting go' of the burden, or forgiving himself in a sense. Why it was so important for him to tell Henry I don't know, but I believe him when he said 'I had to tell someone.'
→ 49. Posted by: JoePike at March 2, 2006 3:42 PMThis third of six hatches leaves only three more hatches left. I am looking forward to a little more exploring of the hatch. It would be interesting to see if they can find another copy of the Orientation Video.
I don't think the others intentionally let Locke and Company to find the "Swan" Bunker. It was fully stocked with DHARMA gear. The new Bunker convinces me that Desmond is an other. I think Desmond could be the guy that Zeke was talking to Ethan about.
I am really looking forward to getting back to the Walt/Michael storyline. I am curious to see more of the others.
Does anyone remember what the logo was for the hatch that the Tailies?
→ 50. Posted by: The Other Desmond at March 2, 2006 3:43 PMThe baby mobile in the Hatch Nursery with the Oceanic planes is not the first time we've seen this mobile- in Clair's episode last season (Raised by Another) Claire has a dream sequesnce in which she see's a crib with the same Mobile, only the planes are all tattered and in pieces (as if they had crashed).
Also, concerning how long the Others had been gone from the new hatch, presumable they left after Claire ascaped and Ethan dissapeared, which has to be approximately 5-6 weeks ago. Yet the costume "hobo" clothes were just seen on "Zeke" a few days ago, so someone went back and put them in the abandoned hatch's clset... why?
Speaking of the hobo clothes, obviously the others want to give the castaways a certain impression; they are disheveled, uncivilized, been on the island for some time without facilities with which to promote hygiene etc. They don't want out losties to know what kind of accomodations the island is hiding. I'm betting there are several more hatches and the Others are getting annoyed that they have now lost 3 to the castaways (Locke's Hatch, Claire's Hatch and the Tailies Hatch, though this looked abandoned already).
Just some thoughts.
I love this blog!
The Talies Hatch Dharma Logo was an Arrow.
→ 52. Posted by: Sarah at March 2, 2006 3:59 PMDoes anyone think that perhaps the "him" that Zeke said would be angry is the same "him" that Desmond was referring to when he asked Locke "are you him?" in season 1?
→ 53. Posted by: lj at March 2, 2006 4:06 PMAnother fine show and a great review for such a disjointed episode.
I agree with KillJackoff that they seem to be setting up a big Locke episode. I'm guessing one more episode of "setup" and then the "Lock(e)down" episode. Perhaps Locke decides to barricade himself inside the hatch?
My favorite line was when Jack and Locke are arguing over what to do with Henry, Henry calls from the armory "Let him go!" That was pretty funny. But it begs the question, how can people hear so easily through this supposed super strong armory door? Or maybe I just need to let that one go.
On another note, the Oceanic plane mobile (if it was a real memory, which I think it was) does seem to suggest a connection between Dharma and Oceanic and probably even the crash. Ethan and Goodwin both appeared right at the time of the crash, no? Did anyone notice Ethan's presence anywhere in the pilot episode? Maybe in the background? Well, certainly Goodwin appeared right after the crash, because he came out of the woods while the Tailies were still making their way out of the ocean onto the beach. Would the Others have been able to react that quickly to a "random" plane crash? They'd have to first determine that it was a plane crash, get someone into hobo garb, rush out to locate the crash site, rush to it, and then try to infiltrate. Maybe they already knew the crash was coming (or possibly caused it).
In "Maternity Leave", Zeke's fake beard and hobo garb were left behind when the Others apparently pulled out of the Medical Hatch, which suggests they left in a hurry. So, did they get tipped off somehow that Kate, Claire, and Rousseau were coming? And the flashlights conveniently in a box on the wall for Kate to find?!? Weak writing (IMO). And if Kate went to go "turn the power on", why were some of the light flickering?
Oh, and yes, the "numbers" add up to 108.
And yes, Henry Gale was also the name of Dorothy's uncle in the Wizard of Oz.
And no, Sayid's CIA torture trainer was not Zeke.
And finally, once and for all, Kate killed her BIOLOGICAL father, the alcoholic wife-batterer that her mom conceived Kate with during an affair she had while cheating on her husband, the Army Sergeant Kate consinders to be her step-father, who also happened to capture Sayid during the Gulf War.
Last, *flame on* the breaks between new episodes are really beginning to wear. Have the producers offered any explanation (apology?) for this? The show is great, and I, like most of you, am hooked, so while the repeats aren't going to turn me away, they are pissing me off. *flame off*
The person that zeke was talking about has to be Hanso. Who else would it be?
→ 55. Posted by: bcooklti at March 2, 2006 4:15 PMThe others would have been long gone from the other hatch (costumes would be gone) and have since appeared in theatrical garb. Anyone consider Rousseau's daughter placed them there to help uncover more secrets to our fallen friends...?
→ 56. Posted by: Jack at March 2, 2006 4:16 PMfirst of all I would like to say that, that was some funny crap I just read. Nice blog. Not only do you break it down better than anyone every week, but also keep me rolling till tears come. Thank you for making me wet my pants.
Some things I liked about this episode:
--Anything with Mr. Echo is just fantastic. It's obvious that Mr. Echo knows he is an "Other."
--The fact that Zeke the pirate dresses up is interesting. Although doesn't this ruin it just a little. I mean, at first it was these people that could be anywhere, anything, and whisper in the jungle, and now it all just a play....? I'm not sure I like that development but it does through us a curve.
--Charlie wasn't in it and Mr. Echo was.
--We got to see move of what happened to clair.
Things I didn't like
--Let me just say somethings are getting old. Weird charcter developments, or backtracts such as Obi-one turning into the insecure child. C'mon, Locke should have seen that coming a mile a way.
--Jack's whole thing with Locke--k, at first I was like, c'mon kick his arss Jack! But now, I'm like just do something that matters and get over it. You're like a bunch of little kids. Do they really want us to not like Jack?
--Mr. Gale--I like him being added, but Hello! doesn't anyone think about doing something to prove whether he's an other or not might be a good idea? I guess they are going to finally do that, but in the mean time, it's just stupid.
--Nobody talks--So they find another hatch, and we're just not going to tell anyone about it back at the ranch? I see it now, "what did you do today", clair answers "oh just took a walk, ran into the crazy french lady and then found another hatch"
Locke nods his head "Yeah that will happen. Did you know there's probably 6 of them son's of bitchs around here. Strange huh, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the crazy smoke, or the others....want to go make charlie jealous?"
Give me a break.
→ 57. Posted by: Jeremy Thomas at March 2, 2006 4:22 PMDesmond was single-handedly doing a two-person job every 108 minutes - he was waiting for the promised replacement....that 'him'!
→ 58. Posted by: JT at March 2, 2006 4:24 PMDesmond is NOT an Other.
→ 59. Posted by: Mike at March 2, 2006 4:34 PMI agree with Jeremy that Locke's reaction to Henry's ploy was pretty thin. I was willing to accept that Locke had somehow transformed from a meek parapalegic to a strong leader once they crashed on the island. I am less willing to believe that he is suddenly so weak that he falls for a thinly veiled ploy like Henry's.
→ 60. Posted by: KG at March 2, 2006 4:35 PMLocke could be playing into Henry's hand, to gain his trust and find out exactly what he is doing there.
→ 61. Posted by: Jack at March 2, 2006 4:39 PMGreat review, Mac...I agree with your editorial comment at the top.
I found significance in Claire giving her baby to Sun to watch after while she ran into the woods. You'll remember the first Claire flashback episode early in Season One. It revolved around the idea that she must not ever give her baby away. It seemed to factor into Claire's thinking throughout her Charlie storyline and yet she ignored those thoughts when giving her baby to Sun. I found great gravity in the moment when Sun said, "are you sure you want to do this?"
Apparently Claire's memory is shorter than Sawyer's...
→ 62. Posted by: Jeff at March 2, 2006 4:41 PMSomeone mentioned the upcoming episode "Lockdown". I have an idea that instead of being an (obvious) Locke-centric episode, it might be a Hurley episode, relating to his time in the psych ward. The synopsis mentioned a Latino priest, also, and Hurley is Latino.
→ 63. Posted by: christina at March 2, 2006 4:46 PMSo who was the blonde watching over claire/ethan in the log flashback?
→ 64. Posted by: Cid at March 2, 2006 4:52 PMThat was Claire, "watching" her flashback.
→ 65. Posted by: christina at March 2, 2006 4:56 PMThe repeat episodes do not annoy me. I have found that they seem to pick repeats that have to do with something coming up in a new epi. It is nice to be fresh with those "old" points when seeing new things. I don't think the writers/producers just pick repeats on a whim. Neither do my co-workers. Don't blow them off out of frustration.
→ 66. Posted by: Marie at March 2, 2006 5:08 PMhey jack i like the idea of alex leaving behind the clues for the castaways. good thought! i also like the idea that locke could be playing his own tricks to gain henry's trust coz i just don't see him going all pussy(i hope i am allowed to say this!) on us. from the previews for the next epi it seems like he is getting together an army of his own (with jack being out of the loop) to find out more about henry-does anybody else think so?
→ 67. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 5:16 PMHere's a quick thing....
Listen, Rousseau has been alone for 16 years. If they castaways want truth out of her, sincere truth without the nut job telling everyone they're infected, why doesn't one of the Men step up and bang her??? That would release a lot of her tension
Just imagine the comic relief if that happened;)
can someone please tell me where to find info about the upcoming new episodes.
→ 69. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 5:33 PMhttp://www.tv.com/lost/show/24313/episode_guide.html
→ 70. Posted by: Phil Zoop at March 2, 2006 5:35 PMthat site only has info about past shows but not upcoming shows. i need the site for the upcoming shows please. thanks anyway.
→ 71. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 2, 2006 5:41 PMThat 'him' that "Zeke" was referring to, isn't that one of the founders of the Dharma Project, a DeGroot? And I'm pretty sure that I saw the bearded "Other" in the background of the two Dharma videos
→ 72. Posted by: Mike at March 2, 2006 5:50 PMJust a thought, maybe Echo is planning on breaking Henry out? I don't think that Echo is an other, but maybe he has a greater plan. Also he could be trying to better relationships between the others and losties.
How do we know that there are 6 bunkers?
Also i think that the others could be stashing their costumes all over the island just incase they face a situation just like the plane crash.
→ 73. Posted by: db at March 2, 2006 5:51 PMI have just been informed that they mention it in the training video...my bad.
→ 74. Posted by: db at March 2, 2006 5:59 PMkateplussun=fun, im sure a quick google search for lost spoilers will do the trick
db, you gotta pay attention, the dharma video said there were 6 bunkers!
→ 75. Posted by: Phil Zoop at March 2, 2006 6:00 PMLove the comment about Dharma brand awareness.
→ 76. Posted by: Joe at March 2, 2006 6:18 PMWay way up there somewhere in the comments are interesting points about the "vaccines"...I do agree that it would be pretty dumb to go and inject yourself with something from the hatch without knowing what it is....i.e. Desmond's shots and Claire using them. Then why should we all agree that what Claire was so sure to find in the medical hatch is actually a vaccine? Shouldn't we be concerned with her grabbing a vial from there (if they were there) and running back to the beach to stick Aaron with it?
→ 77. Posted by: Vikki at March 2, 2006 6:33 PMSome quick points:
- Major props to the person who went on and on about how fake Zeke's beard looked when we saw him in "The Hunting Party"
- O.K. so the Others were wearing costumes - or was it just Zeke and Alex? Is it possible Zeke does this as a Dharma accomplice to infultrate the group of ancestors from the Black Rock crash? Unlikely, but I hate to lose that primitive edge. Next we'll find that there are speakers mounted around the island in treetops broadcasting the whispers.
- I've got no problem with Kate finding the flashlights, just the Others from Dharma medical using torches -- unless they felt the need to dress up in their costumes before chasing after Claire. We never do see what they are wearing (or do we?)
- Henry is definitely a Dharma/Other, and is up to no good.
- Locke's insecurities are re-surfacing big time. Mr. Explorer / Boar Hunter / Obi-Wan Buddah has transformed this season into "I want to sit on my butt and punch numbers all day, and occasionally be a surrogate father/husband to Claire." I personally love his antics and look forward to seeing where this goes.
- Did the Others abandon the site because they feared that Claire knew where they were and would return?
- Can we assume that the Claire/Rosseau/Kate search team did not travel past that invisible line that Zeke informed them not to cross? Kate sure didn't seem too nervous.
→ 78. Posted by: JL815 at March 2, 2006 7:31 PMSomeone mentioned that the girls should have searched the bunker, and I agree that more than one locker could have been opened. But one reason they didn't, might be that Claire left a sick, nursing baby on the beach with no bottles or formula, and I'm glad they hurried back once they realized what she needed wasn't there. The hatch isn't going anywhere. Bring some guys along and give it a good search, then use it as a shelter, I say.
→ 79. Posted by: SoLost at March 2, 2006 7:34 PMDesmond IS an other.
→ 80. Posted by: ike at March 2, 2006 8:08 PMGreat summary of the episode. I don't know if this was mentioned, but wasn't it interesting when Claire asked Ethan how he was able to get all the baby supplies?
Unfortunately, Ethan responded with something to the effect that the answer would overwhelm Claire. Arrgh! We almost had even MORE questions answered.
→ 81. Posted by: Steve at March 2, 2006 8:10 PMI believe that the D.H.A.R.M.A. people can travel to and from the island at will, and that is how they got the late-model baby furniture for the nursery room in the hospital and the late-model washer and dryer for the swan bunker.
→ 82. Posted by: Dan at March 2, 2006 8:20 PMI'm wondering if it's possible that the medical hatch was deserted as a result of the counter reaching zero. Perhaps that triggers an alarm that signals, "Oh crap there's going to be 'another incident!' Grab everything you can and run!" Even though the clock was reset it may have been too late for the "other" hatch dwellers to know.
→ 83. Posted by: t-code-j at March 2, 2006 8:31 PMFurthermore, I believe that there is a central village somewhere on the island where the D.H.A.R.M.A. people live and train and conduct experiments on a daily basis while wearing their normal clothes, and the Zeke costume that Kate found is stashed in the hospital with other peoples' costumes until they're needed.
It's funny, this reminds me of Star Trek: First Contact when the 24th century folks need to blend in, so they're wearing civilian clothes from the same period. I get the feeling that the D.H.A.R.M.A. people are much more advanced and knowledgable then they want to let on, and that they have a well maintained modern facility (perhaps an underground lair filled with liquid hot MAG-MA) from which they send small groups or specific people, like Dorothy's uncle, on missions.
→ 84. Posted by: Dan at March 2, 2006 8:42 PMAs a physician the shots in Claire's stomach really bug me. The only time that anything similar happens in medicine is when amniotic fluid is pulled with a syringe for testing and this is done under close u/s guidance. Whether it is vaccine or virus in the syringe each time it's stuck in mom's belly there is a big risk to the baby's life. The whole thing bugs me.
The other thing that bugs me is all the people upset at Locke for being less then god. I enjoy the humor of the Obi Wan comparisons but he was a very flawed man before the plane crash and though he can now walk and without a doubt he is smart and knows a trick or two he is hardly infallible.
One small point that wasn't mentioned yet as far as foreshadowing goes. Claire yells at Sun that she doesn't understand and says " Are you a mother" Sun looks a bit dejected and answers no.
Then in the previews for the next new episode (kills me that I first typed next week and had to delete it) we see Sun asking Sawyer if he has a pregnancy test (as we know that he is both the island's arms dealer and pharmacist)
I know the next episode hasn't aired yet but why the heck would there be a pregnancy test on the plane for Sun? Can't wait to see hwta Sawyer has to say tp that!
→ 86. Posted by: JOS at March 2, 2006 9:04 PMJust a few comments relating to the above postings:
1.Desmond was too paranoyed/scared when Locke and friends showed up in his hatch to be an "other".
2.As far as the quickness in which the "others" vacated,I don't think they left right away. It seems Claire had been back at camp for a longtime(pre-birth)and the clothes in the locker would indicate they would've only left after the encounter with Jack, John, "James", and dumb-ass Kate. I think Dahrma has a way of monitoring their movement, it would explain a few things.
3.Claire wouldn't know about the vaccine in "Swan" and the people who do, don't believe it's in need anyway.
4.First, the psychic warning Claire to raise her own baby, and stops her from giving him up, then he fix's it up for her with the plane ticket and evrything and says "she has to go" well...HE PUT HER ON THAT SPECIFIC PLANE! Why would he do that if he didn't want them to have Aaron? He knew they would crash.
5.The first time we connect Oceanic to Dahrma? No,look closley in the orientation film, there is a model of an Oceanic plane on the bookcase behind.
6.Libby in the backround at the medical hatch? Really?
This has been bugging me for a long time. Why isn't Rousseau infected? Her party got sick and died, but she didn't and neither did her baby? What if they kidnapped Rousseau and "vaccinated" her baby as they did with Claire? Rousseau just hasn't mentioned it? I find it odd that they say they can vaccinate an unborn baby and A: not get the mother sick or B: not end up with both parties vaccinated.
As far as the needle in the belly as lockeisnotgod said:
"The only time that anything similar happens in medicine is when amniotic fluid is pulled with a syringe for testing and this is done under close u/s guidance"
In Claire's flashbacks, there were flashes of a sonogram with a very developed baby visible. So it is possible they have an ultra sound machine.
→ 88. Posted by: PregnantBelly at March 2, 2006 10:57 PM
Where the heck was Sayid this episode? Wouldn't he further want to interrogate "Henry"? Did I miss something last episode?
That "Henry Gale" was sucessfully getting into Locke's head tells me that he's an "Other".
I think the "Others" must observe the Lostaways from underground, hence the whispers. Perhaps the 3 other bunkers will reveal tunnels?
→ 89. Posted by: JOS at March 2, 2006 10:58 PMI found the Ethan/injection scene hard to watch due to it's unbelievability. When amnio is performed the feteus is being monitored at all times to prevent being hurt. That Ethan just stuck it in really bothered me. Also, what was Claire on? Anything she was given would affect the Baby too, apparently the Others don't seem to care about that.
→ 90. Posted by: JOS at March 2, 2006 11:05 PMI think that the costumes were left there intentionally. There are clearly outlines on the nursery walls from the hanging animals that were taken. Why leave costumes/clues in a bunker that could be potentially found and take everything else. Also, I am not sure that this is one of the six bunkers. It could have just been a hospital bunker, which means that there are still four unfound bunkers on the island.
Also, did anyone else notice the strong resemblance between Kate and Rousseau? It was like looking at Kate in 20 years.
→ 91. Posted by: AEC at March 2, 2006 11:18 PMI think Desmond and Gale are Others, but I don't think they were a part of the original Dharma project. Couldn't it be possible that they were brought to the island in the same manner as flight 815? Gale was travelling by balloon and Desmond was in some kind of race, but both were travelling close enough to the island to have been intentionally brought there. I think they were turned into Others. Which would explain why Gale didn't go Rambo on Jack when the two of them were alone and why Desmond didn't recognize Jack right away.
Alot of people have been snagged by the Others, most of them children, but not all, so it's possible Desmond and Gale were 'converts' to the 'Other' side.
I also think that Gale and his wife were 'infected' with the same thing Aaron was infected with. Gale's wife died of a fever, right? Maybe, after being injected, a person has to ride it out for a few days to see if their system rejects or accepts whatever it is they are injected with. If the fever breaks, they live a brand new life as an Other. If not, they die. Just like Gale's wife.
The fact that the Others' costumes (or at least Zeke's) are left in the medical hatch lead me to believe that they have costumes in each hatch they still occupy. This explains why Zeke's fake beard in the encounter with Jack, Locke, Sawyer, and Kate looks different than his fake beard did in the encounter with Michael, Walt, Jin, and Sawyer at the end of season one in which Walt gets taken. If the Others did evacuate the medical hatch around the time Claire escaped, Zeke would have had a different fake beard on in the second encounter, which it appeared he did. But, at the same time, there has to be some explanation for why the costumes are about the only thing that is left in the medical hatch. Any thoughts?
→ 93. Posted by: Robby at March 3, 2006 12:11 AMWho is Hanso?
→ 94. Posted by: LustingforLost at March 3, 2006 12:15 AMOne more thing: The doors to the medical hatch do not say "quarantine" on them like the doors to the two hatches we have seen. If they do, I missed it and I apologize. Is it possible then that this isn't one of the hatches in the project?
→ 95. Posted by: Robby at March 3, 2006 12:16 AManyone have any thoughts on why the second hatch was trashed when kate, claire, and danielle entered?
→ 96. Posted by: nater1111 at March 3, 2006 12:56 AMalso..anyone notice the numbers on the vial for the shot? 4 8 15 16 23 42
→ 97. Posted by: nater1111 at March 3, 2006 1:02 AMDo you think the Others cleared out after Claire escaped thinking the lostaways would come with guns ablazing? They wouldn't know that Claire lost her memory, but at that point they might know about the two guns jack had the keys to.
In regards to the nursery in the medical bunker, did anyone notice that the pictures/decales on the walls left imprints behind even though they were gone? This might imply that they were on the wall for a loonngg time before Claire even got there.
→ 98. Posted by: JOS at March 3, 2006 1:24 AMEko cut the 2 braids of his beard off. Those two braid things were representative of the two 'others' he killed. he was cleansing himself of their blood because he told henry.
He had tied up the two little sprigs of his beard to represent the two people he killed. He was, in a way, carrying them with him. When he confessed his sins to Henry, he was able to cut them loose, and stop carrying them. He is clean.
What do you think?
→ 99. Posted by: I_am_lost at March 3, 2006 1:25 AMThree points
1) Everyone is saying why isn't anyone infected by the virus. This furthers my point that there IS NO virus yet the others believe that there is and will do anything to protect themselves.
2) Now that I realize who the others are (kinda) i feel its a little weird that they were VERY willing to kill Charlie and the occupents of the raft (Jin, Michael and Soyeur)
3)I believe that Russo's baby was taken in the exact same manner attempted on Claire. When she walked into the medical room she looked around astonished, like she had been there and she was reliving it. It is possible that they stiched her up when they took her baby and dropped her off somewhere so she could never find the bunker?
And thoughts on any of this????
→ 100. Posted by: db at March 3, 2006 1:28 AMIsn't it funny that the Others stripped the nursery bare but left behind lockers full of their old clothes and theatre makeup? Does that mean that they don't need them anymore or that they're coming back?
→ 101. Posted by: Carl at March 3, 2006 2:27 AMI think it's not only weird that the D.H.A.R.M.A. people seem VERY willing to kill but also that they seem VERY willing to put themselves in mortal danger. Already four or five of them have been killed and another has been captured.
Maybe they ingrain the same kind of colony mentality that ants or termites have, or maybe they feel SO compelled to recruit new people and experiment with the rest of O:815 that they feel the end justifies any means.
→ 102. Posted by: Dan at March 3, 2006 2:31 AMI wonder, after the show ends, if some of the castaways(like locke, kate, ... - the ones having nothing to lose if they never turn back) would choose to become Others and stick to the island...continue the project or whatever is happening there.
→ 103. Posted by: Skandalouz at March 3, 2006 3:35 AMConsidering how unpredictable the show is, you think 2 or three seasons from now, it is impossible to even guess what will happen. I bet no one truely guessed what would have been in the hatch and I bet no one guessed that the others were really people in costumes.
so just thinking about what the show will be like 2 or 3 seasons from now is pretty crazy
→ 104. Posted by: Never at March 3, 2006 3:40 AMDid Anyone Notice in The Medical Hatch when Ethan was taking Claire to The Nursery Room on the opposite wall there was a sign above a small door that said "ESACPE HATCH". If You slow it down and freeze fram on it it does say it. That could be a way the Others left
→ 105. Posted by: Mathew at March 3, 2006 7:47 AM@ lustingforlost:
Did you really just ask who Hanso is? You need to either go back and read a significant amount of the previous blogs or watch all of the early episodes of season two over again. Alvar Hanso is the monetary backer of the DHARMA Inititive.
→ 106. Posted by: JAC at March 3, 2006 9:40 AMI feel the need to point out that this last episode really drove home the point that, while crazy Danielle Rousseau is just possibly even crazier that we previously thought (ya you betcha!), her badassitude level may be even higher as well. I mean, for a woman to hoist up and carry the limp unconscious body of a 110-120 lb pound person through at least a couple miles of tropical rainforest underbrush, while moving at a sufficient clip to ditch the pursuing Others (who seems to have Jedi/Atlantian strength, speed, and endurance), is no small task.
A second follow up point on the whole infection thingy. They've admitted that they will be killing off at least 2 characters this season. We can assume that all of our favorite/main characters will stay around as well as the super nice Hugo/Rose type characters. My prediction for at least one death this season is that Michael will get some sort of "infection" related death. I don't know if the disease will actually kill him or if somebody (survivor/other/or French lady) will kill him kill him because he's "infected," but mark my words, that disease will be his undoing by the end of this season. At this point its hard to say if his "extreme" behaviors as of late (storming off into the jungle like a madman with a gun) is simply the result of wanting to get his Walt back, or is the product of the first stages of an infection addled mind. I believe this all the more strongly considering that he no longer lives in Hawaii.
Other candidates for the chopping block are Ana-Lucia & Libby. The actresses that play them (Michelle Rodriguez & Cynthia Watros) are on probation for being hard to work with, unpleasant on the set, and racking up a couple DUIs while off set in Hawaii. They are not yet that integrated to the show and nobody seems to like them. If I had to guess, I would say that Ana-Lucia might be getting an Adios!
Just a side-thought, maybe the whole reason the Others play dress-up - the beard, the rags, the running around in bare feet etc. is to make the survivors think they're stranded on the island too. But in reality they're able to come and go off the island at will. That would explain -as in in the case of Desmond -how once his last three months of food supplies were used up how he could have been given more, and certainly explains his new washing and dryer machines when everything else in his Hatch is at least 20 years old - it would explain all of Claire's very new looking toys for the baby -they're certainly not over 20 years old.
My theory is - the Others know that if the Losties knew for certain the Others could get them off the Island - they'd be hunting them down with their guns and once they found them be insisting they get them all home NOW, and it would ruin all these long-term experiments they're obviously still running in secret from the rest of the world.
Oh - and it'd make for a lot shorter run for the show too.
→ 108. Posted by: groc at March 3, 2006 9:58 AMRousseau has popped up in the last two episodes..it could be possible that she might be killed, she has been in enough episodes and is a vital character to the plot, to be considered a 'main character' to be killed off.
just thought i'd make an assumption, she would after all be a surprising character to go, and considering that she now knows alex is alive and 'good' she might have made peace with her self.. who knows
→ 109. Posted by: Never at March 3, 2006 10:30 AM@ Matthew...
I thought it said "ejection hatch" but escape hatch makes much more sense...to connect to The Wizard of Oz again, remember how all Dorothy had to do to get home was click her heels? How funny would it be that all the losties have to do to get home is walk through the escape hatch...
→ 110. Posted by: Vikki at March 3, 2006 10:56 AMI still maintain that Claire's psychic put her on the plane because he knew it would crash and assumed she and the baby would be killed. He couldn't convince her that she needed to be the one to raise her baby, so he felt it necessary to 'get rid' of the problem since he foresaw big trouble if Claire gave her baby away. I don't think he had any idea that they'd survive.
There was no guarantee that if they survived Claire would absolutely be the sole person to raise Aaron. He wouldn't have put her on the plane if he foresaw that she would end up on an island where there was a big danger of the baby being taken away.
What he probably 'saw' was the evil result of Aaron being raised by someone else, so that's why he insisted Claire be the only one to raise her child.
My main point is the psychic wouldn't have purposely sent Claire to the place where her baby would be in the MOST danger of being taken...and then NOT raised by his mother.
One great foreshadowing moment from this episode was when Sun told Claire that a mother should never leave her baby. Claire responded, "I'm sorry...are you a mother?" Sun replied, "No, I am not a mother." But apparently from the previews she's about to be!
I hope the show-makers realize what a complex, interesting, and great character they have in Eko and weave him into the storyline a lot more. He's such a strong character- a real bad-ass with a horrible history who is now trying to stay on the 'righteous path'. They need to expand his involvement from what they probably previously intended.
→ 111. Posted by: JoePike at March 3, 2006 11:00 AMGoing back to the Episode where Walt is taken, does anyone think that the driver of that boat was Zeke and not DeGroot? Also, the boat drivers looked pretty beat up- do we think they were in costume then? I still do not want to abandon the theory of two groups of Others. Obviously`if Alex is a defector- there are certainly more.
→ 112. Posted by: adjudicator at March 3, 2006 11:01 AMJust a couple of random thoughts:
Does anyone think there is any significance to the fact that everyone thinks Clare's baby is a boy, and yet it hasn't been established that she had an ultrasound or anything to tell her that?
Also, is anyone curious as to what Rousseau's comment "But I hope your baby's not infected. But if it is, I hope you know what must be done" actually means? What has to be done? Is she implying that her baby was infected, and she had to give her baby to the others so that they could take care of her? Is giving her baby to the others what has to be done?
→ 113. Posted by: Chris at March 3, 2006 11:09 AMRE: beards: I don't believe this has been brought up yet this season, but the ACTOR who played the Other on the boat at the end of Season One is clearly not the the same actor as Zeke. Now, whether or not it's supposed to be the same CHARACTER, I'm not sure.
→ 114. Posted by: KG at March 3, 2006 11:12 AMChris
are you serious? she had the baby. it was a boy. his name is aaron. boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. thats how we tell the difference in babies.
KG
you are about as wrong as you can be in the statement you just made. the actor who played the bearded other on the boat that took walt was MC Gainey. He is the same man who appeared in the jungle and had the talk with Locke, Jack and Sawyer. He is also the same actor who appeared in the hall way talking to Ethan (w/o a beard). It was his "other costume" Kate found in the locker along with his fake beard and make-up kit.
please guys watch the show, read the reviews and dont clog up the blog with ridiculous comments and make things worse for the rest of us.
JAC, I do watch the show, and I do read the blog. Very closed on both counts. I happen to believe that the actor from Season One doesn't look like Zeke. His eyes and nose look different.
But to be honest, people who hurl insults and say that differing opinions are "making things worse for the rest of us" are kind of ruining this blog for me. Mac does such a fantastic job of recapping each episode and keeping us relaxed and upbeat (we can be an obsessive bunch) but there seem to be a lot of people on this blog who are easily annoyed and display a lot of anger.
This is a show, guys. The best show on TV, IMHO, but still a show. Be nice.
→ 116. Posted by: KG at March 3, 2006 11:29 AMJAC:
Sorry, I meant did anyone think it was strange that they thought it was a boy in the flashbacks to the Clare's kidnapping, when the baby was still inside her. Everyone knew that the baby was a boy... for example, the nursery was set up for a boy, and they referred to it has a boy, BEFORE he was born.
→ 117. Posted by: Chris at March 3, 2006 11:30 AMI meant "very closely on both counts." Typo!
→ 118. Posted by: KG at March 3, 2006 11:31 AMchris
my bad. i misunderstood what you said.
kg
you're not stating a different opinion. you're misinterpreting facts that have been established in this forum. i would never say anything bad against someones opinion because as wild as some of the theories on this website are, any one of them could turn out to be true.
I really believe from last night epi
Heres a very possible idea. The hair Eko had growing on his chin was actually two distinct groups of hair held together by some string type thing. He killed two men, my first reaction was, now he has confessed his sins, those two "braided" groups of hair can now be cut off. Just some symbolism
→ 1. Posted by: Mesisca at March 2, 2006 11:45 AM