Lost Reviews and News

First off, I'm pissed. We had to wait a month for THIS episode? Lame. Here's what we learned in this episode: 1) Sun is preggers (which we pretty much knew from the previews a month ago), and 2) Henry Gale may be an other. Wow, shocker. I think ABC knew what a dud this episode was, thereby necessitating the "next week FIVE things happen" advertisement. The final scene with Henry was cool, but beyond that this episode was a severe letdown. Maybe when I watch it again my stance will soften, but I guess this brings my expectations about this show back down to a reasonable level. Should have known they every episode couldn't be as good (or better) as the one previous. Oh well, I hope next week makes up for it.

On another site, the song listed that Locke was listening to was Oingo Boingo's Kiss My Ass.

I think this episode set the stage for many events that are to come. I am looking forward to the next episode. Did anyone else notice the Widmore Labs on the pregnancy test? Same as from Charlie's flashback.

1. HENRI IS ONE OF "THEM" and Sayid,Charlie,Ana-Lucia WILL encounter ''others''.

2. Sun is infected. Remember, that Claire was kidnapped with her baby and now the others want the baby.

3.I think Charlie was on dope all the episode long. Also, he's getting the bitchy attitude of Sawyer.

Nice Stripes reference! I can't wait for Hurley to join Jack and Ana Lucia's army so he can become a lean mean fighting machine.

Hurley: Well, my name's Hugo Reyes. My friends call me Hurley. I dont know if you've noticed, but I got a slight weight problem.

Another great Sawyer nickname, this one for Sun, he called her "Sun-shine"

WTF is Ecko doing in the woods ? I hope he is constructing something called a house. They've been on the island for 2 months now and they are still enjoying sleeping on the sand. They have all the time and all the wood they want to construct a nice village, with a milkman, a postman. They could bring electricity on the island, so they could bake fish and make dances for the youngest.

What a letdown - not a very good episode at all. I'm sick of Sun & Jin. They're too boring - I'm hoping one of them will be killed off this season. Their story has hit a dead end. The Henry moment at the end was kind of cool, and Charlie getting caught with the gun (why didn't Ana or Sayid question him?) was definitely a clever moment, too. Next week looks pretty good, though.

I agree with Mike about Sun and Jin. IMHO, their episode from Season 1 was the weakest of that season, and last night's episode was by far the worst episode of the entire series. It was almost entirely devoid of advancement of the story. Oh well, they can't all be gems. Next week better make up for it.

I disagree with the majority concensus that this episode was boring. This Henry thing is getting more intriguing each week and...come on! A nice shot of Matthew Fox wet, naked, and dripping? Doesn't get any better than that! I wondered about Widmore Labs, too. But the rest of the label on the box doesn't seem to have any other easter eggs hidden on it. Which flashback was it in?

Can someone recap what the teaser for next week told us?

I only ask because we won't find out anything new besides what the teaser commercial already tells us.

Henry is obviously an Other. I like where you’re going with the Henry-Rousseau link. Although I don’t think its so simple. Somehow the others have given her an opportunity to be with Alex again? Maybe even be a part of their group? In order to get whatever she thinks she going to get, the Others are using her to get into the Losties Camp with henry.

I can understand where people are coming from regarding their disappointment with the episode, but I always look upon these "slower" programs as something that needs to be inserted into a show if it's going to build properly. Like any good story, every chapter has to lead into the next -- if you have cliffhanger after cliffhanger, the big payoffs become less impressive because it's a boy who cried wolf scenario every week.

On top of that, Lost is very fortunate to have some excellent performers. In lesser hands, the Sun-Jin story woudl come off REALLY bad. As it stands, I thoroughly enjoy this plotline because it gives the show a depth that many action-focused shows lack ("Battlestar Galactica" is another show that follows the same track -- fantastic action e episodes couple with great character arcs).

Good review as always Mac. Love the Stripes and Atlantic Starr reference.

I really liked this week's episode. I'm not a big fan of Sun and Jin, but I thought it was a good one. The question is: (1) did the island/dharma somehow "fix" Jin's, er... problem (just like Locke's legs) or (2) did Sun lie and have an affair with Kareem, the English teacher (which could have been as recently as 8-9 weeks ago (in "Lost time"). My first thought was door number "2", but after thinking about this more it has to be door number "1". Jin just got about one week ago from his raft/tailies adventure and he sure was happy the next morning after being with Sun (remember that look from Hurley at Jin?).

I love Henry Gale since he is such a manipulative bastard.

The one thing that I'm most excited about is that we have at least two more consective new episodes coming up. Woo-hoo!

Marty.

Schiano, basically what happens next week is the hatch goes schizo and all hell breaks loose (doors slamming, lights flashing, general ominous mechanical shenanigans). Without being more specific, the teaser promises 5 things will happen next week that will make us flip our lids.

And I agree with Mac's point about needing slow episodes to control the pace of the show and provide necessary character development. We had several of those in Season 1, and I think last night was the first time we had it in Season 2. But I still take issue with the placement of the slow episode (following a month-long break) and the complete lack of plot advancement (nothing happened that we didn't already know of suspect).

However, as mad as I am about the episode, I'm still looking forward to next week like a kid looking forward to Christmas!

"Anna, Sayid and Charlie set out for Mordor" - beautiful! Great wrap-up!

The exchange that led to them going was:
Sayid - "That's at least a day's walk."
Anna - "Then we'd better get going."

Don't these people ever think to start out at dawn? Why do they always embark on long treks in the middle of the afternoon?

Did anyone else notice that when Ana was in the hatch, Jack was trying to listen and said he could not here anything, but it is pretty obvious that Henry Gale can hear what is going on outside the hatch. Maybe Henry Gale has super hearing powers. Just a thought.

Whether or not Gale is an Other (and he probably is), it's in his best interest to make his captors believe he has essential information that they'll only get if they keep him alive at least a few days longer. Anyone else wondering how he knew Ana Lucia didn't go looking for the balloon alone? Also, it you're correct that Sun's flashback was about a year before the crash, then my first guess that it's the English teacher's baby couldn't make sense. Who's the father?

So, didnt Hurley distribute all of the hatch food and swipe a private stash for himself? Seems like a continuity error since Locke said there was a "whole pantry full of food."

I am thinking that Henry is still an other and that the trio will find the balloon so in turn Henry will be believed. The group will relax and believe him and then something will happen...I think he is a mole for the others. I think the balloon will have been planted just for this purpose, to place a mole in the lostie's camp.

I, too, tend to think Henry is an Other. The only reason I'm hesitant is because it's so *obvious* that he's an other. And as we all know, nothing on this show is obvious!

I for one, really liked this episode. But then again, I kinda like sappy story lines. What can I say, I'm a hopeless romantic. And... WOW, Jin and Sun are a very good looking couple in PJs!

So, anybody else think this baby could be the "Island's" .... some sort of emaculate conception?? I know, far fetched, but I'm remembering the whole Charlie, Religous, thing...

Love this blog Mac!

It seems that everone that goes into the hatch to interogate Gale ends up giving him a confession of some sort. Could there be a reference to Catholicism, and Gale is a preist? Or is that too far fetched?

Just remembered something I forgot to include in the review:

When Ana interrogates Henry, Henry offhandedly mentions that Eko cut off his beard. It's a quick little thing, but Ana seems surprised.

Henry is the master at this type of comment -- the innocuous, flighty moment that appears to mean nothing to him, but he also seems to know *exactly* how to tweak each individual castaway.

True, anybody who walks into that hatch holding cell seems to turn into a babbling pansy who for one reason or another feels compelled to confess their sins to Henry. Also, people seem so easily manipulated by him (I'm still bothered by how easily he got Locke's panties all up in a bunch in the previous episode). His methods all seem so hokey, yet they always work like a charm.

The Losties have had enough experience to know that The Others are a crafty and dangerous folk, yet everybody besides Sayid seems to be unwilling to find out the truth by any means necessary. Finding a balloon in the jungle does nothing to prove Henry's "innocence," so somebody needs to step up and get some answers. Sawyer? Somebody?

John...
Jack couldn't hear what Ana & Henry were talking about in the armory b/c Locke was blasting tunes on the record player...i don't think it was a hint to Henry's super "Other" hearing, but i've been wrong many times before tryin to guess whats going on w/ Lost.
Swiching gears for a moment - Did anyone else notice how SMOKING HOT Sun looked in that skimpy green outfit at the beginning of this episode? She has officially replaced Evangeline as the hottest Lost-away in my book!
great review as always mac!

Just something that I've been thinking about:

How is it seemingly 'ok' that Jack and Locke are living in the Hatch, shaving and taking hot showers while the rest of the Losties are hanging out outside, with all of the environmental dangers...?

yeah, its almost like the holding cell has turned into a make-shift confessional, and they go in alone and confess their sins.

After repeated viewings of the preview for next week it looks like a lot is going to hit the fan.

They find the hot air balloon with the smiley face but just because it is there doen't mean that is how Henry got there. If he had known about the plane with Echo's brother in it he could have made up a story about coming on the island with that plane. We aren't supposed to trust Henry Gale and we're supposed to second guess ourselves on him, thats what the writers want. I say he's an other with lots of information. Remember what Rousseau told Sayid, "he will lie".

It looks like Sayid will return with a gun pulled on Henry and then someone forgets to press the button because the whole hatch goes on lockdown. Lights start flashing, the speakers roar and the whole place has gates crashing down in an Indiana Jones fashion.

The most peculiar shot that I can't seem to figure out is Henry Gale's head popping out of a vent of some sort. I'm thinking that after the lockdown he and Locke find a way out of the hatch through the ventilation system. This all happens after Jack goes besserker on Gale roughing him up and then heading out to save Sayid, Ana, and Charlie.

The tune Locke was listening to was "Pushin' Too Hard" by the Seeds, I believe.

On a different subject, I too think Henry Gale will turn out to be an "Other". How about this:

What if 'Adam and Eve' found in the cave were the original balooning couple and Henry is assuming the identity of the husband to have a somewhat verifiable reason for being on the island and not being an "Other"?

At this point, given the preview of next week's show, I am not sure that Anna, Sayid, and Charlie are going into a trap set by Henry. It looks like they will find a baloon in the trees "Why is it not raining here?" (Look up). If it is a trap, there would be no reason to send them to where a baloon actually was.

Could the balloon be Desmond's, from his trip around the world?

Gale is NOT an other. Why is everybody assuming he is one? In the preview for next week, your hear Ana say "why isn't it raining over here". They proceed to look up and see the balloon stuck in the trees. Also, if you look at preview pictures from next week, they show Ana kneeling beside the grave of Gale's wife.

thanks for the great recap, mac...but I was wondering why you said "and Sun wisely pays little attention to the words coming out of Jack's mouth." when the part that succeeds the backstory implies full disclosure of the pregnancy and sterility...everything except the English lessons?

Just because we find the balloon, doesn't mean Herny is not an Other. I agree with whoever said that it could be Desmond's balloon - by the way, when are we going to see Desmond again? One of the more intriguing characters.

I think the French Chick is in on this somehow. Notice in the "previously on Lost" part of the episode, they made the point to focus on her "finding" Henry, to remind us again, she plays a role (however small) in this whole Henry thing.

By the way, whoever said Sun is hotter than Kate is on crack.

At the risk of sounding crass, Sun is what we call a "butterface." Kate, on the other hand: hubba hubba.

Alllright, I enjoy a good "who's hotter" conversation as much as the next person, but I'd like to divert from the Sun vs. Kate thing.

And JT -- the Jack comment was just a pot-shot; there wasn't much to it, although I do think it's interesting that he's going on about "truth" and such, yet he and Locke are hiding a prisoner in the hatch.

Great review as always. As usual, I will make my points as a list.

1. I thought this episode was good. However, this blog is starting to beat me down b/c it seems that most posters can't be pleased at all. I think the writers are trying to not make the same mistakes that Alias did. In Alias, the best plot was the initial one, and they ruined it by moving TOO fast. They had to re-invent the show over and over until it sucked big time.
2. The writers are leading us somewhere, thats for sure. It may not satisfy "comic book" viewers, but I think it is great. In this episode, subtle alliances and character complexities are coming out. Could A-L, Sayid, Charlie, and Sawyer beome allied. Jack is now pretty much alone (hmm...very Lord of the Flies-like). Is Sun a "good" person or is she hiding anything?
3. I never thought Evangeline was hot, but I could handle Sun in some more bedroom flashbacks.
4. Could Henry be controlling the islands power to make thoughts into reality? Maybe he caused the balloon to appear?

I must be on some serious crack then...lol. Evangeline has always struck me as a prude honor student, not the "dirty-hot" chick that her character seems to strive for. I think its the freckles and the Clearasil-face. Sun, on the other hand, is the hot, neglected, foreign house-wife from next door. Pass the butterface please...

Guys, seriously -- enough with the Kate/Sun stuff. I don't want this place turning into a den of who's hotter iniquity. Just isn't worth it.

Man, I got scolded for saying I hated the episode AND for commenting on Kate/Sun! Rough day.

Just kidding. You're right, Mac, it's best to stay above the fray regarding the aesthetics of the actors. Didn't mean any harm!

Now, back to how much I hated this episode....Just kidding again.

LOL -- a double scolding! I think that's a record!

Sorry if I seem kinda harsh on that stuff; I've just seen too many instances of casual comments turning into something that spirals out of control.

Mike: Sun is hotter than Kate (Kates too... butch)

And her in that outfit... yummy!

Anyway, I believe the reason that Henry can hear outside the hatch but noone can hear inside is becuase of background noise. There is none from inside the hatch. Outside the hatch there are noises comming from many other places, like the equipment.

I couldn't tell from the previews for next week if the balloon had a smiley face on it or not - all I could see is that it was yellow and orange.

I thought that the banter between Jack, Locke and Henry at the end was very interesting. The most interesting point to me was when Henry asked how old the cereal was, and then went on to talk about how they certainly haven't asked many questions about things on the island. My jury is still out on whether he is an "Other" or not. If he is, why would he bait them to ask questions that might ultimately lead to an island search for answers. He would know that they were supposed to stay in a certain area. It makes sense if he had been living in the woods by himself and then was taken to a place with electricity and running water, that you would stop and ask some questions.

******** READ THIS NOTE FROM MAC *******

Now that I hopefully have your attention, please, for the love of god, stop with the Kate, Sun, hot stuff. The message appears to have gotten through to most folks, but if you are just coming to the blog and you feel the need to post, stop yourself and read what I'm saying right HERE.

Thank you. The last thing I want to do is delete posts, but if it keeps up I'm going to have to make that happen. And believe me, that is NOT something I want to get into.

-- Mac

(sigh) Now Mac, you know you scolded me a while back after joking that certain topics should be banned. Yet, now you are targeting a few innocent comments about two of the main characters? Surely we have time to at least acknowledge the relevance of the bedroom scene. I think I even saw a Dharma logo on Sun's lingerie...pause it, look real hard on high-def and I think you'll agree that the topic warranted a minute or two of discussion.

LOL -- touche ;)

The problem I have is that the discussion isn't about the characters (even though their names are being mentioned). It's about the people who play those characters and that's a road that isn't worth going down.

Man, I can always tell when an episode didn't hold people's attention ... minds start to wander a bit (and I'm not saying they shouldn't -- I, too, can acknowledge and admire -- but just don't do it here).

Ok, noone has said anything about it yet.
Durring "Jin's Perspective", I believe that Bernie & Sawyer were speaking backwards.
Ok, they weren't actually speaking backwards but what they said was played backwards on the soundtrack to make it sound garbled from Jins point of view.
Does anyone have a way to reverse the soundtrack?
What were they saying?

i thought that to but theres no way to tell

I wondered if anyone else notice the change in Charlie in this episode? He's acting more driven, his comment to Ana about her being a Murderer, the way he started to hand her the gun then giving it to Sayid. Were did he get the gun? He's acting as if he is on the edge of going postal.

yeah it was a prison if they caught any others in the war

Yo Mac, I've said it before, and dammit it's true again- that was your most entertaining episode review yet! I challenge myself everytime to try to make it through without laughing and it's just not possible.

And please give some of these posters a break...it's taken me 1/2 hour to read through these comments and if I hadn't refreshed the screen before posting I would've missed the new posts containing your warnings about the 'hotness' issue and posted a 'hotness' message too. (WOW I was happy Jin made Sun do that 360 turn...) Plus it takes us a while to type in a half-decent message, and you may have posted your warnings in the meantime.

I tend to believe Sun when she swore to Jin that she had never been with another man. I do think there's more to the story with the English teacher though, which we may see in a future flashback (oxymoron?). My guess is that the island somehow jump-started Jin's sperm production or made the few he had SUPER-DUPER swimmers. I'll be pissed if the 'island immaculate conception' theory pans out.

Kudos to the writers for successfully working all of the major characters into a single episode. Bravo! Bravo! Keep it up!

Um, except for Eko. Popular character. Need more of him.

I'm confused as to why Sawyer still has all of the med supplies. Shouldn't Jack have them? Guess Sawyer just likes to hoard everything for power and bargaining.

I was also whole-heartedly confused with Locke's 'there's a pantry full of food' comment. I really thought they ate it all at the island party and Hurley hid the leftovers for his personal use.

JoePike -- You make incredibly valid points and I appreciate your comments. You're right -- there are all sorts of factors that come into play with the posts and I fully acknowledge that some folks may catch the warnings mid-stream. Makes total sense.

But my concern simply stems from a desire to make sure this place continues to be a haven for fun, interesting, discussion on the show itself, not the folks on the show.

So, that's the reason for all the flailing and wailing on my part. But I very much agree with what you're saying.

Just because Henry said he came to the island in a balloon they all believe that to find it where he says it is makes it so. Well, what if someone else had come to the island via a balloon - they get captured by the "Others" and anytime the "Others" need to use a cover story they say they came by balloon.

Locke walks - Jin .....ah.... succeeds? You just never know what will happen next.

Love this site - first time I've added my 2 cents.

I believe Sun was telling the truth about her not being with anyone else because she did not have to tell him about his shooting blanks.

Mac:

Regarding your thoughts on the books being read on the island. I thought that it was funny that Sawyer was reading a book about a girl who REALLY wants to grow up and start menstruating, and Sun walks up and asks for a pregnancy test.

Also, you failed to mention the book "The Brothers Karamazov" by Dostoevsy. Henry Gale's map was drawn on the back of the title page of this book.

The story follows the lives of old man Karamazov, a filthy penny-pinching lech and his three sons. Each son represents a different side to the Russian character: Dimitri the spoiled lout or the prodigal son, (Clearly Charlie) Ivan the tortured intellect, (Jack) and Alyosha the spiritual searcher (Locke).

Now, I don't wanna get too deep, but that was definitely in there for a reason.

macmama

Henry Gale could be an Other AND truly have crashed in a hot air balloon. Why does it necessarily have to be one or the "other"? We see a yellow hot air balloon in the trees for next week's episode. The real question is whether Henry did land in the baloon or if it was someone else and that is Henry's cover story.

Secondly, would you really eat anything with the Dharma symbol on it?

I've been wondering about the worried look on Sun's face, as she was hugging Jin near the end of the episode. What could it mean? Some possibilites:
1. Jae Lee (her "English teacher"), is the father. Even though Jin will never know, her conscience is really bothering her.
2. She knows that pregnant women are prime targets for the Others, so she's worried about her safety and her baby's safety.
3. She's just worried in general about the prospects of giving birth and raising a child while stranded in primitive conditions.
4. Somebody else (Michael??) is the father. In this case, it will become obvious as soon as the baby is born.

Mac, I like your third theory about Rousseau & Henry being co-conpirators, it makes sense. After all, she didn't really NEED to go to Sayid after she "captured" Gale, she led him there on purpose.
Wonder what the Widmore Labs means (to anyone who forgot - it was the sign on the building in London in Charlie's backstory).

Just realized something - the sign in London was "Widmore Construction" and the pregnancy test was from Widmore Laboratory. Must be a subsidiary of Dharma, they have a hand in everything like Dharma does.

Do we know if the pregnancy test came from the hatch's medical supplies or from a passenger's luggage?

The pregnancy test must have been from the luggage, because how would Sawyer get the hatch's med supplies, unless he stole some when he was in there with his injury. Also, why that hatch would have a pregnancy test is beyond me. The other (medical) hatch, maybe.

I agree with whoever mentioned that if all you wanted to do was listen to theories, why announce yourself at all, when you know the resulting conversation would be questions and not talk about theories.

Someone asked a while back if there is a smiley face on the hot air balloon. I checked the preview on my Tivo, there most definitely is a smiley face visible.

Maybe its a Dharma experiment.

Hey Mac,

Love the blog, first time comments. Remember when the French chick caught Sayid? She was brutal with him and tortured him Rambo style on the electric bed looking for her kid. Now she catches Henry and all of a sudden she like, “hey, why don’t you guys see what you can find out?” It just doesn’t fit and I don’t buy it. What does she have to gain from giving him to the Lost Boys? I think he’s a mole back to recapture the hatch. They caught her and set it all up and promised her kid back. Especially since Alex is too “good” (remember the last episode?). Think about it, where did good old Desmond go? He’s an “other” that’s for sure. He goes back to the Pirates of the Caribbean squad and tells them they got in the Hatch and they got the guns. All of a sudden they’re all worried about their rule on Gilligan’s Island might be in trouble. Remember, they know the Lost Boys whacked Ethan with a couple guns. What would they do with a stash that Eko would be proud of?
This is how I see it play out; Henry is playing mind games with them, sending some out on a wild goose chase (big deal, so he know the way to a balloon. I wonder how long he’s lived on the Island. You always have to have a cover story just like Desomond.) Once the opportunity presents itself, he trips the hatch defense systems since he’s been there before, and takes out who ever is in there. Then he gets on the old Apple IIe and starts talking to his theater group saying they guns are gone but he’s got the Hatch back. (Remember Michael was talking to Walt on the old Commodore 64 so it’s entirely possible to communicate 2 ways) 10 bucks that there are some secret doors and or tunnels in there that the “others” can access once he’s inside.

On a side note, has anyone ever mentioned a possible connection between Sawyer and Kate (freckles)? Didn’t Huck Finn have freckles and his father was a drunk and either was killed or died? Also, both Tom and Huck were always getting into trouble and scheming (some correlation to their past and a little to their present?) just a thought.

Nice recaps, looking forward to next week’s episode.

First post here, but I've been reading you guys for several months.
I really think Henry really wanted Jack&Locke( aka The Ropers)to know he's smarter than they could have guessed, but if he's an Other, haven't they crossed the missunderstanding line?Shouldn't Zeke be on his way?
Here in Spain, they're trying to translate it or something and I guess that summer will bring 'Lost' over, so I've become a spy in order to satisfy my curiosity 'bout this series. Mac,thanks a lot: ever tried to write a book??

Whew Mac, thanks for ending that silly debate on the hotness of Sun versus Kate. It really was detracting from the seriousness of the show. Typical of men to lower the tone into a "my brother's bigger than your brother" type argument.
Now let's get back to business. When are we going to see more of Josh Holloway with his shirt off? That man is hotter than a pot of gumbo in July.

Read the comment about the time when Jin was listening to Sawyer and the other guy. Yes, it was basically backward dialogue. Here's a URL for it.

http://www.lostblog.net/misc/sawyerbernard.mp3

Mac, do you like all my favourite movies from the past. 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure', 'Monty Python's The Holy Grail' and now a quote from 'Stripes'?! 'Any of you call me Francis and I'll kill ya!'

Next movie to quote. 'Ford Fairlane, Rock and Roll Detective'. (Although it kinda sucked)

Great review, thanks Mac!

So if the preg test did not come from the hatch, someone brought it on the plane, so who else is pregnant? Cindy? We still don't know where she disappeared to and perhaps she is linked to Dharma/Widmore. Not Libby? I agree the island "fixed" Jin's mojo but I am bothered about Sun's teacher...there is something about him.... Rich... failed relationship in America. Maybe Dharma keeps his mind off his troubles.

Henry is a great addition! I love his mind games, seems like an Other and they needed a new mole...

If the medical bunker had an escape hatch why wouldn't the Swan? I guess we see next week. What a great show!

Asante all,
I thought that I heard Sayed and Charlie talking about a dining room or dining table.
I wonder how Sawyer still has all the supplies, when he made such a stink about people going through his stuff - I mean unless there is so much more stuff in the hatch, someone, like Jack should have taken all the medical stuff.

No matter how many times we say it, you deserve it even more everytime we repeat it - great review Mac! Loved the Mordor line!!

I agree with you that this was a great episode. Certainly we have come far enough to believe that miracles(wierd stuff?) do happen on this island so Jin being able to hit the jackpot should not raise the issue of whether Sun cheated on him - i was totally convinced when she tells Jin she has never been with another man. Man, I wish there was some way to thank the Lost "team" for showing us the "true" Sun!

Desmond could not have been in the balloon as he said that he shipwrecked on the beach and thats where Kevin(did I get the name right?) ran out from the jungle and told him to follow him.

How long do you guys think the balloon has been up there? i mean, wouldn't it be all torn and stuff because of the severe weather changes that we have experienced on the island? i think its a trap by the others but.....

Hey Mac, I would really appreciate it if you could clear one thing up for me. When Locke approaches Ana Lucia in the beginning of this epi, does she say "i've been here over a week..." or "you've been here over a week..."? If its the former and the tailies have been there for only over a week, then how does it seem like forever ago that Sawyer was sick in bed in the hatch? Anybody else have any thoughts on that?

That Henry Gale is one hell of a smart guy. I love the way he brought up that Jack and Locke are dumasses for the way they have been acting lately...Jack is really pissing me off but that only goes to show how good the writers are for making us not like the hero of the show. I would love to see these two "girlies" finally stand up to each other and maybe exchange a few punches!!!

Thanks once again for the great recap Mac!

I am sorry Mac, but I have to say this...
SUN IS GOING TO BE A MILF!!!!!

I enjoyed comments from the previous eposides. But some of these comments are useless and really pissed me off. Mac, don't hesitate to delete those posts. You know what have to be done.

God bless U, Mac. How miserably the episode was, you seems have a pretty good talent to cover it with enjoyable review.
And I really love the Mordor part. Henry Gale and Gollum share the same looks!

I too remember Sayid and Charlie saying something about a dining room table. Something about cutting it in half?? (I don't have Tivo) For some reason, the image of the Last Supper popped into my head--not sure why.

Since I don't have Tivo, I have a question about something that I don't remember too clearly. In the hatch, after Ana Lucia comes out from talking to Henry Gale, I remember Jack saying something to her along the lines of, "Don't worry, I didn't tell him," or "Don't worry, I haven't told anyone." I have no idea what he was referring to, or even if I'm remembering this correctly. Does anyone know what he was talking about?

First of all, I realize that many people found the episode to be boring and irrelevant, but that doesn't mean that ALL of us found it to be that way. So if all of you that are "bored" could stop posting insignificant crap to the board, I'm sure the rest of us (and Mac) would be greatly appreciative.

Second, I'm definitely looking forward to next week's episode. I think that Henry Gale is most likely an "Other", and althought this point seems obvious to us, I'm sure there will be some other twist stuck in there that we didn't see coming. I think in next week's episode, he will either (a)have a role in tripping the system somehow to cause the hatch to lock up, or (b) he will have nothing to do with it, but will make it clear to Jack and Locke that he knows his way around the hatch a little too well (hence the quick scene of him popping up through a vent in the previews) if they try to escape and this will clue them into his true identity, and this in turn will freak out Jack and Locke into worrying about their general safety (from holding an "Other" hostage) and A-L's, Sayid's, and Charlie's safety out in the wild, and things will go berserk.

I can't wait for things to start getting truly crazy as the finale approaches!

this is my first post, but have been reading for a while. this is a pretty good blog where the show is actually discussed. i think that henry is an other and that the balloon was already there and he just knew where it was. i dont think theres a trap he just wanted to mess with jack and lockes heads. and if he isnt an other maybe hes just messing with their heads to piss them off.
great observation/theory about roseau and henry.
charlies kind of coming into his own, but still wants to tag along and "fit" in. but i still love charlie.
last five minutes of the show were the best-hands down.

im not sure who said this but jack is becoming a little like the "good" leader in lord of the flies.
when are micheal and walt coming back or even going to be mentioned by someone on the island?
i hope the season finale is as great as last seasons.
jack and locke are for sure going to get into a fist fight.
i just had an idea for the show- they see a boat or plane in the distance and try to get its attention, but then the others somehow sink it or get it to turn around and the losties have to confront the others face to face. any takers?

maybe suns baby is hurleys! they always seem to be meeting up and they have had a couple of nice conversations. wouldnt that be a great season finale. but maybe not that would cause too much of an uproar and hurley wouldnt do something like that.

Nice review, mac. You're writings are much more entertaining than this episode was ;)

I don't want to comment much about the Sun/Jin storyline. This "mysterious baby from nowhere" a.k.a. immaculate conception a.k.a. "who's the real father?" plot doesn't look very innovative to me. Will they even call their baby Luke? And in case the real father will be revealed in one of the next episodes: I just don't care who it is... if I wanted to see more of these baby's-real-father-revelation stories I would prefer Alias or Galactica.

The last scene with Henry Gale was acted very well in my opinion. They really should keep this actor. I hope this storyline will bring us some real excitement, but I suppose it most likely will play out like most of us predicted from the beginning: Henry Gale IS an Other and after gaining the Losties' trust he'll do a lot of damage to them... let's call it the standard "Alias" plot. I suppose Locke's 'unlikely ally' in the next episode will also be Henry Gale. I hope that I'm wrong with my speculations and that the writers WILL surprise us in the next episodes!

btw, which episode will be the one directed by Darren Aronofsky?

margot i agree with you in hopes that they'll surprise us about henry gale and it wont be quite what were all thinking, or as obvious as they seem to be making it.
the character of henry is a really great addition to the show. he has probably been put into the losties lives to tests their trust, friendship and boundaries. he might even be there as a test for rosseau.

Great summary as usual, thanks. ;-)

What in God's name was Sayid doing staring at Ana Lucia while she was sleeping? None-the-less, I am glad Ana Lucia FINALLY said "I'm sorry" to Sayid for what happened. That was bugging me the whole time since the accident.

Hi everyone -- the comments have been pruned, so this afternoon's "conversation" has now been relegated to the garbage bin. If you see a stray post or two that looks out of place, those are ones I probably missed. And if I mistakenly deleted a post that *didn't* deserve to be axed, please accept my apology. It got to a point where I had to employ a slash and burn technique to wade through that mess.

Ah, good times.

-- Mac

Thanks Mac for deleting those bogus comments from the person claiming to be writers from the show. You keep the blog pure!

Todd

WHY did they decide to ignore the other hatch in this episode, not even a hint about it???

Isn't that BIG news that you would want to share? Kate was held hostage by these desguised people , didnt she want to tell sawyer, locke and jack about it????

Not even a whisper. That was bogus.

how come more people haven't picked this apart? Where did locke get cereal!?!? And he says to Henry, 'oh, theres a whole pantry full of food'

uhhhhh, hello? Hurley was supposed to have given all the food away besides a stash for himself for the writers to justify him staying fat. Is this cereal thing just a huge oversight?

I though the episode was really good, but not so much for the content as much as how it set up next weeks episode to thoroughly kick ass. The fact that everyone is now probably marking the days off on their calenders until the next episode airs is pure genius.

Also, Ana Lucia is a cop an experienced interrogator. I think her little confessions were used to gain a relationship of trust with Henry, causing him to open up enough to give Ana the map. I also don't think she will automatically assume Henry is telling the truth just because they find the balloon.

I also think Charlie's new attitude and cynicism comes from 1 - finally being on the winning side i.e. helping Sawyer steal the guns, and 2 - after being treated like crap by Claire, he mistrusts women, causing the attitude towards Ana. Last week, I watched the entire first season again (my wife thinks I'm obsessed - sheesh!) and Charlie is always seeking acceptance from the others and seems to always get kicked in the teeth, getting shoved back into the periphery of the 'in crowd' so to speak. Not only that, but he's packing and that always makes a guy a little cocky. I think he's just tired of eating everybody's crap.

Oh, and Ford Fairlane? That movie rules! Here's to you...

"...(Oceanic 815 appears to have been stocked with every item known to man)."
- Everything except a laptop computer! Difficult to believe in this day and age. This one has been bugging me.
-LOVE this blog, Mac. Great job this week and always!

Great point, djrmsn, about the laptops. There probably were laptops on the plane but I doubt any of them survived the crash. Too bad...if they found one they could hook it up to the main computer, but they still wouldn't have Internet access with no phone lines, right?

I know many people did not like this episode. Which is acceptable, but in many ways I think this episode worked. I have a feeling that this episode was simply to build up to what's next. One of my problems, though, is that Jack and Lock and the bunch are so caught in their cabin feever that they don't think like the others. Here some things I think:

1. The line. Wouldn't Henry just love to draw them to someplace past "the line". Get Zeke pissed and come off on the castaways with all his thunder and lightning? At the episode he definitely voiced waht I had been the whole episode.

2. Also, how do they know "the line"? where is it? It might very well be hypothetical, "the line" symbolizing "don't you dare go searching for us again, freaks!" What if they passed the line when looking for Claire's "Other Hospital & Daycare".

3. So, the "Other Hospital & Daycare" was deserted. Why? Where are they now?

4. So what if there is a parachute, that doesn't mean Henry's not an other. That's like saying: Just because we found the tail half of the plane they landed in means that all those people weren't captured. He was probably captured like the rest of them.

Maybe I'm just being parinoid, but no Other action makes me distracted. Henry Gale might be bluffing for whatever reason he pleases, but I seriously think that with The Others missing one of their main men, they probably won't take any crap from nosy castaways poking around in the island.

There were laptops, I can't remember what episode exactly but the one where Sayid Boone and kate plan to triangulate the french woman's signal very early on in season one, kate asks sawyer for a battery from a laptop computer, sawyer pulls one out, and then pulls out the battery and gives it to her

mac......longtime viewer, first time caller.....radio talk show humor just to break the ice...

Great review...love them makes the show easier to follow. I think Henry is an "other" but maybe an other "other.....people speculated that there might be two camps of others....remember when he first comes out of the room and asks what the computer is for? Neither jack or locke answer.....also as he sits down for his breakfast...final meal perhaps....he says "you guys don't know much about this place do you? Perhaps he is from the other camp that didn't know about the workings of this hatch?

Also.....jack is a schmuk.....he pontifcates to sun about telling the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth to jin and in the very next breath when kate says that he is spending alot of time in the hatch and asks if anything is going on he lies.....

anyway just wanted to add my 2 sense....

Every media, like the book, pregnancy test, music, pages from books and other materials i.e. smiley face parachute/balloon. I don't remember or didn’t have time to read all the posts yet, but do you see these connections. They are almost transitions to connect people. The pregnancy test from Widmore Labs is linked to Charlie. I think Charlie is capable of forcing himself on Sun. Is the thing up in the trees a balloon or a parachute from the drug runners plane crash? Thereby connecting Eck with Henry? The map came from a book in the hatch linking Locke and Jack to Ana. I believe they know Henry gave a map to Ana.
When ever Black and White are apart or out balance each other the crap hits the fan. When they are together and balanced everything is ok. Like Sun all of a sudden felt sick when Bernard and Rose came by and they were arguing about Rose's birthday.
I don't know I may just be high..
Oh did anyone catch the full number on their cereal box, unfortunately I don’t have tivo. Was it DL9FFTR731 ? And whets that supposed to mean?

Two things:

1) Jin's first sentence was "You'll ... find ... Walt, Michael" and it wasn't nearly as cheesy as his "I love you" in this episode.

2) What's with all the Kate hate? Sun asked her a question, Kate answered it honestly ... I don't think it was meant to be a big revelation, but you so cleverly used it as a means to bash Kate.

i think it is important to remember there is absolutly nothing tying this henry gale guy to the hot air ballon.whos to say the ballon wasnt put there by the others. anyone notice the picture of the hot air ballon in the hatch above henry gale when he was lying on the floor. i will not believe this guy until the day sayid peels his wifes lifeless carcass from the makeshift grave henry made for her. I have to admit im not to particularly interested in sun,jin story but hey whos to say that they may not be central characters in the plot. its all up in the air!! we need episodes like this to make us appreciate the good episodes even more, credit to mac for making a dullish episode shine with life

is there going to be another hiatus before the next episode Lockdown

Hey Curtis, here's to you {EDITED OUT BY CENSOR} (just kidding)

Booty time, booty time. Across the USA.

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I think Henry laid it on a bit too thick. It was SO obvious he was trying to manipulate them. You would think that Locke in Obi Wan mode would be able to pick up on that.

Maybe Locke is trying to find good excuse to pull a Dick Cheney on Jack and shoot him... in the face. 'Hey Jack, you got peppered pretty good there.'

ive got a theory on the Sun/jin pregancy
Mr paik told the doc to tell jin that sun couldnt conceive cuz it is important in the korea culture to have children, so jin will leave sun in order to have a baby

hey maestro, jins fish are not swiming up the tigris, the reason why the doctor didnt tell him this is that he was afraid of jin with jins shady background, there is alot of questions posed by suns pregnancy ,like when, who, what, where, i dont think she had an affair and i believe jin is the father dont know how but he just is!!!

good point i wonder if the others will kidnap her wen they find out

i do not think jin is the father i think they showed us that flashback 4 a purpose and that is that jin is not the father

Mac,

Let me start by saying that your blog is without a doubt the best one on the web relating the Lost series. The episode recaps are funny, insightful, and revelaing. They always seem to reveal something that I've missed. Anywho, let me now pry my lips off your backside and put forth my own theory on HG. I definitely think he is an Other. I believe he was allowed to be captured so he could spy on the group. Remember in the episode where Claire, Crazy Danielle, and Kate find the medical hatch, during a flashback we see Zeke chiding Ethan for not getting the list and that "He won't be happy". Well my theory is that Henry was sent to infiltrate the group and get the list of names for Mr. He-Wont-Be-Happy. As for Ana, Sayid, and Charlie finding a balloon in the trees, that's just the Others helping Henry with his backstory so the survivors will accept his tale as fact. Really, how hard would it be for Dharma to buy a yellow smiley face balloon and put it in place. And even if they see a grave by the balloon, the only way to make sure Henry's wife is buried there is to dig her up, I doubt they'll do that. But, then again I could be wrong. Gotta say though, I like Henry's little monologue at the end, and the way he asked for milk was the cherry on top.

Keep up the great work Mac.

Before this episode began I read the synopsis in the paper to my wife (about Sun having a secret). She immediately said "She's pregnant with Michael's baby". Could be.

I like these slow episodes. I remember when the X-Files used to be interesting because it was about interesting people and then it stopped being interesting because it was about a puzzle that didn't quite fit together and even if it did, it was no big deal. I think the LOST creators are walking a very fine line and I'm not sure they can keep their balance.

I enjoy episodes like this one. I haven't like much of this season because it's all been hatch and Zeke and new hatch and so on. I originally liked LOST because the characters drew me in. I hope this doesn't turn out as weird as Twin Peaks or as anticlimactic as the X-Files.

My two cents.

Just to put something to rest...

If Sun WAS impregnated by her english tutor, and not Jin, she would be at least 2 months pregnant and would have been having symptoms LONG before now.

Where was Claire? We know she is back because we see Kate. Also Sun is no longer watching Aaron. They basically ignored the big news which was the other hatch. The leaders, Sayid, Jack and Locke would have all been up on this news. Locke would have been one step closer to fulfilling his destiny, Sayid to finding more clues to finding the others or finding mechanical equipment of getting off the island. Or Jack and Sawyer finding medical equipment or even the news of the fake beard because all of them has seen the bearded other or shall we say the fake bearded other. Kate did not tell anyone about her discovery? I find that hard to believe. Or even Charlie feeling no ill will towards realizing exactly what Ethan did to Claire. I can go on and on but finding a new hatch is big big big news.

I wanted to dispell the idea that Rousseau is involved with the Others just to reunite with Alex again. When Claire mentioned the possibility of Alex being at the second hatch, Rousseau regained back all that hope and supported Claire in finding that place. Rousseau turned Henry Gale over to Sayid first you know and then helped Claire. If she was in on it the whole time when she turned over Henry Gale, she would not have been so helpful to Claire and also not as dissapointed when Alex wasnt there.

It is still a possibility, and when I say possibility I don't rule out other theories, that Jin is the dad. When Jin received news of the pregnancy, he did not seemed shocked at all but embraced the news in a "finally" way. This must mean that they have been doing it either right before the flight or on the island. A man would be shocked if his wife is pregnant and they have not been knocking each other up. So that is my point, they are doing the dirty, so Jin's father status is still a distinct possibility.

Even though this was a "dry" episode in that not much explanation was given, history has shown that episodes like this always reveal something. Future episodes will reveal the importance of an episode like this. Not all episodes can be "WOW"; you need to build suspense sometimes and although not much suspense may have been built, I have faith in the writers that they will tie everything together. Hey, have they let us down before? If so, would we be so attached to these blogs and forums?

Widmore Labs is where the Pregnancy test came from, there was a Widmore Construction sign in Charlie's backstory a few weeks ago and Michael worked for Widmore Construction in NYC (we learned this in Season 1).
What are the chances that Widmore is linked to Dharma? Pretty good, I'd say.

Okay, clearly Henry Gale is the "Him" Zeke was referring to when he was angry with Ethan during Maternity Leave. The Others are on the island thinking they have some kind of utopian society. It obviously takes a pretty intelligent person to convince you of this. Being a master of manipulation would also help further the cause. Surprize, Henry is both of these things. Maybe he feels it's time to see if the Lost aways can be converted. If not, say goodnight, Grace. I think he's purposely trying to show off his superioir intelligence by constantly badgering the survivors. It's like he's saying, "I know you know I'm an other, but I'm smart enough to make you doubt yourself and everyone you know." And Sun has been hot, y'all were just sleeping on her. Mac, love the blog.

I disagree that Henry is "him." Judging by the nature of the "him" comment, "him" is some sort of VIP. If that was Henry, he wouldn't be doing grunt work like getting "captured" by some potentially dangerous pissed off Losties. While I still think Henry is probably an Other (although I'm still nervous because he's so *obviously* an Other), I think he is just a grunt worker like Goodwin. I doubt they'd risk a VIP on a high-risk mission like Henry's (assuming Henry is indeed on a mission!)

I see your point, but Ethan and Goodwin lost their lives trying to accomplish something for the others. Maybe Henry felt it was time to take matters into his own hands. You know, the old if you want something done right, do it yourself. Too many people are dying and maybe he feels enough is enough. Besides Zeke, he appears to be the most intellectual other. I've been wrong before, but it just seems like he know's what he is doing too too much.

Or maybe he's like a Lt. sent by the other army because the grunts are getting offed. I just find it hard to believe he's just a soldier. He never seems to get stumped like Goodwin did with A-L, or emotionaly attached as Ethan did with Claire. Just a thought. What do you think about the whole "everyone stay on the beach while Locke and Jack stay in the hatch" bit? I would think people might get a little irritated by the preferential treatment.

Yes i also doubt Henry is "him" or a big honcho because the others already know they've lost goodwin and ethan to the losties, why would they risk a higher up's life?

unless of course the higher up was like okay nothing is getting done, im doing this my self...

so who knows, maybe he is...its all really unknown untill its known...=s

Excellent writing Mac!

About the Rousseau-Gale tag team possibility...why? Assuming he's an Other, and assuming they've teamed up (maybe so she can get her daughter back) what info could Henry possibly be getting that Rousseau couldn't get herself? She's been in the hatch, she's somewhat accepted in the group so could ask questions, she could certainly provide a list to Him. I don't think they're working together...doesn't make sense to me. I also think it's strange writing though to have her turn him over to Sayid. She's well skilled at torture herself - why wouldn't she have kept him to torture herself so that she could get info about her daughter's where-abouts? Why not just have written that Sayid found Gale in the woods. Hmmmm....

As for Gale drawing a map to the balloon, if he is in fact an Other, it could be anyone's balloon, it could be anyone's grave, and he's just using his knowledge of the island's geography to lead A-L, Sayid and Charlie to the Others. If that's the case, then we need to think about why he chose to tell A-L, and not Locke or Sayid or Ecko, but instead chose a woman as the sacrificial lamb. Seems the Others have a special place in their hearts for women of child-bearing age.

Or what if HG is an other, but he is working on his own? It seemed like Zeke said that as long as the surviors don't cross the "line", the others wont bother them. So why would they send a spy? Who's to say the some others don't have their own agenda like some of the losties? There are so many possibilities in my head right now, I'll spare you guys with my far-out theories. I can only take being shot down so much in one day (lol).

Agreed, it's time for the writers to address the living accomodations situation. I could see how some Losties might be uneasy about the hatch (i.e. Rose), but it doesn't make sense that only Jack and Locke stay there.

Here's to hoping we get back on track next week. This was a rough week -- arguably a crappy episode, boys being boys about Sun/Kate, imposters on the board (always a very bad sign), and administrative action needed by Mac. I think we're all in need of a good ol' monster appearance or a mind-blowing flashback or a major shift of alliances or something. And the teaser indicates me may just get it next week! (Fingers crossed.)

And speaking of the monster, has anybody read Michael Crichton's PREY lately? It's pretty obvious that the LOST writers have. I just hope they go in a different direction than the book.

Forgot one other thing....

Did anyone think that HG seems intimidated by Ecko? Coincidence that the black monster in the jungle that approached Ecko also was intimidated? If I were a lostie, I'd never leave Ecko's side.

BTW...Eko? Ecko? Mr Ecko if you're nasty?

I'd be intimidated by Ecko too if he single handedly took out two of my guys. And he punked out the monster? Clearly he is not to be flexed with. Maybe the losties are too intimidated to hang with him. Anyone else think he is building a church?

One thing that hasn't been discussed yet... but could be quite important.

What do you guys think was the "spirit" behind the Henry Gale Jack dialoge about prophets and martyrs? In which book did Henry Gale read this? Who gave him this book?

Before, Henry Gale said to Ana-Lucia:
"You people have been looking for someone to punish for everything that's happened here. Someone to blame and now you've got him. It doesn't matter what I do -- I'm dead already".

So this rises the question: is Henry Gale a martyr or a prophet? Does the difference matter? WHY did he come up with this? Wouldn't Locke be the right person for this kind of discussion instead of Jack?

Margot...good questions.

I just assumed the book he was referencing was the book Locke had given him to read (and they exchanged dialogue about) in the previous episode. I don't remember what it was though, only that they contrasted it to Hemingway.

Don't forget that Eko wasn't the only one who had a staring contest with the monster, Locke did as well in walkabout.

Want pictures of the balloon?
Check out this site:
http://lost-and-gone-forever.blogspot.com/

Scroll further down and you will see a behind-the-scenes picture with the production crew under the balloon.
Although I still say it looks a little small to be a balloon that goes across the ocean, but you can see the basket hanging in the trees as well.

I have a theory that could kill two birds with one stone.

We know that when Hurly gave out the food there was enough in the hatch to last one man a couple months, right? But the Pantry didn't exactly look empty, right? So chances are, somehow the stock of food must be replenished.
What is food and other supplies (maybe a new washer and dryer?) are arriving on the island via Hot Air Baloons?

The Balloon in the jungle that is going to be found next week is not Gale's baloon, it was a transport ballon that got blown slightly off coarse and was stuck in the trees.

The Others, instead of trying to pull it free, left it there to use in just the kind of situation Henry is in. It's a false alibi.

And as far as food being left, maybe Hurley didn't give away all the food, maybe he left some in the hatch to be eaten over the next few weeks. Not impossible. Or maybe the cereal was something that was distributed to Jack or Locke and they have just been saving it. I don't think the cereal should be made into the big deal it has been.

Anyway, to recap- Henry still and other, food and supplies arrive on the island every couple months via Hot Air Ballon. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Great posts everyone, it only took me all day to get caught up (last time I go away the day after a new episode)

I keep flopping back and forth on who's baby it is. I really think that it is Kareem's but the timeline doesn't make sense.

Also, it is obvious that Locke has gone through a serious personality change. I think it is the result of being played by Soyeur. He has lost ALL of his confidence, and personally I am starting to find him VERY annoying.

As far as the discussion on the hatch - why isn't everyone FREAKING OUT to be in the hatch. Jack and Locke use it as there own personal living spaces eating showering and shaving regularly. I would be going nuts to spend as much time in there as possible. Benard and Rose seemed so dirty on the beach like they hadn't showered in forever. This whole hatch thing is really starting to get to me.

Any thoughts????

I think the Others have a mission and that is to get Claire's baby. Only now they have to be more sneaky about it. Then they will have to wait for more babies from Kate, Ana, Libby......Cindy what the hell happened to Cindy and Desmond?

Jack and Ana's army appears to be alive and well. It seems like Sayid and Charlie are building cages (for people or animals and where are the boars?). Maybe Eko is helping when he is not working on the church. I wonder if Charlie is going to tell Sayid about the guns? That will assist him with his feelings of being "part of something" and methinks he would rather be viewed as part of Sayid's band than Sawyer's. However, I do not doubt that Sawyer will eventually reveal who hurt Sun to save his own skin. Putting Charlie back into his comfort zone "on the outs with everyone".

I am not sure I would like to sleep in the hatch but maybe button duty allows the use of shower facilities more often. Some of the folks might be afraid too. Remember Rose mentioned to Hurley early this year that she thinks the hatch is creepy? The food thing does have me baffled. I too thought the food had been distributed to everyone. And they are going to run out at some point right?

Maybe Locke will be more ObiWan when he gets his domain back under control...I sure hope so.

It sure is good to hear how often someone else watches these episodes.....my daughter thinks I have flipped!

Ever since they ran the previews for this episode almost a month ago I have been thinking that perhaps Charlie did a little more than just knock Sun out, maybe he knocked her up at the same time. It would fit with Jin's problem and Sun's claim that she wasn't with anyone else (or at least no one that she recalls). Does the positive test result fit the timeline? Thoughts everyone?

No, it couldn't have happened that way. Charlie is not a rapist. He was not out to hurt Sun, just to help make Locke look/feel like a fool for having fallen for Sawyer's con. Faking the kidnap of Sun was part of that plan. Raping her just wouldn't fit in with that plan and there really was no time for him to do it anyway. Plus, there would have been some physical evidence inside of Sun (sorry to be crude about it), and she would've known. And Charlie certainly doesn't want to take the chance of inflicting the wrath of Jin!

I too am mystified about how no one else seems to care to hang out in the hatch (which feels like civlization) instead of roughing it on the beach and in the jungle. Just doesn't make sense. And if Locke/Jack are forbidding people from getting into the hatch (Locke seems rather possessive of it!) then that's ridiculous and I for one would be telling them to piss off and let me in.

I am also mystified that no one seems to care to follow up on trying to get the guns back from Sawyer...

hi im new to this blog but i dont think that HG is another because the others already have a plant-hurley he was the one that wrote the census and locke clearly asked who was writing hurleys info for it

hurley is not a plant.
slow episode with big possible ramifications. maybe jin should have asked sawyer for a pack of trojans since there seems to be everything else known to man on the plane. Not a good plan knocking up your wife on island filled with people who are baby stealers, a smoke monster and no viable means of escape.
I know the islands tend to have an effect on peoples mojo but if it turns out to be an immacualte conception I'm so done with this show.
I enjoyed the plot character development but they really need to easy up on it a little bit and focus more on the here and now (and I use that terminology loosely).
On a side note would anyone really be sad if claire got sucked into a black hole from which there was no return? I really find her to be the most useless character on the show regardless of the whole thing with her baby. She is constantly screaming and crying (the sound of which makes my brain feel like its melting) and just seems to be everyones favorite target. The show would be so much better without her.
Unless she does something really bad ass at some point during the remaining episodes. Then I would forgive her.

I too am wondering why no one tries to get the guns back from Sawyer. He has proved to be easy to track in the past. So why couldn't Locke or even Kate follow his trail to get the guns? Maybe they don't see him as a threat as of yet. Maybe they are letting him bask in his glory for now. After all they have Henry and each other to deal with right now.

I also wonder if Kate or Claire have told anyone about the other hatch yet? I certainly would be talking about it and trying to explore it. I would definitly tell them about finding the costume make-up!! Kate's not stupid she has to know that this is big news. She is a "Details Person" too. Back in Season One while on the bank heiste her partner had to hit her to make it look real enough to the others that she was an innocent bystander. Her partner said to her "Oh, you and your details" or something like that... I just thought it was a little funny that we figured that about Sawyer but no one ever seemed to relate that to Kate before. There is more to her character than we know yet.

I'm hoping that in next weeks episode, Locke's un-likely partner" will be Jack for a change. They never seem to see things eye to eye but maybe that will change somehow. Maybe Henry will have some kind of affect on them for the better atleast. Probably not. Henry will probably be the one instead so he can win their trust and stick it to them in the end.

in lockdown i have heard that the hatch blows a fuse then the blaster doors open and the armoury, locke is the only one with Gale, then 2 make things worse he loses the use of his legs like in deus ex machina the button starts bleeping and the surprisingly Gale pushes the button and helps locke

As much as I love this show, some of the points that everyone is bringing up are bothering as much as the reruns. I am about ready to just wait for the Season Two DVD set. And I liked the episode for setting up the Ana Lucia and Saiyed and Charlie trek and the Jin Sun angle.

Everyone seems too comfortable with Sawyer ? I mean he got the beat down for less last season. Dag, the Others are there and everyone is just okay with him keeping the guns? Give me a break.

Plus, there is no saving grace to Sawyer at all anymore. I would rather see him hit the bricks than Claire ? hell let a Sith be a Sith ? kill Sawyer Darth Charlie and take your rightful place as the one. I thought that Charlie must have done the Dr. Light thing too ? and even if he didn?t what will everyone think when they find out that Charlie had a gun? Probably nothing since NO ONE seems to be cooperating with anyone.

Last thing, JinSun didn?t need Trojans if they thought they couldn?t have a kid so I?m okay about that part but ? and yeah NO ONE wants a shower?

Hello! Nice blog..love reading all the comments.

This is not really related to "this" episode but hoping someone can help me understnad why the writers are turning Lock's charachter into a ...well I don't really know what to call it.
I'm a new Lost watcher and recently finished all of season 1, and Lock by far was my favorite cast memebr. I guess I really liked how he was so smart, and really was a main leader in the group, but in his before life he worked at walmart. conned by his dad and was treated like crap from that younger boss when he worked at the Box factory ( BTW....Hurley ownes it). Now on the island he was so bad ass! What is going on? He's loosing his moo joo!!?? He truley seems like a great guy on and off the island. The most humble moment of the show for me was when they had to carry him on the plane.... I felt so bad for him...

There are soooooo many characters – many of them pretty cool – that it’s going to be hard to write all of them in. I remember that Star Trek DS9 and TNG were like that. It is quite the juggling act to balance them. I found most of the characters interesting last year, especially Locke. He was a pretty weighty – oh hell, the Lady of the House is insisting that we go to dinner – so …. Locke was pretty cool and so was Claire and Jack and Sawyer and Saiyed. But damn I would rather see Mr. Eko and Ana….

my favourite charater from season 1 was ethan he should of killed charlie

mac how do u read your reviews from season 1

Did we see Henry draw the map for A.L ? Is theer any possibility that they drew this up together ?
I agree , rousseau may be working with Henry.

The map was writen on the THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV, Dostoevskys masterpiece. Four brothers who conspire and Kill their father. There is a pattern here, Heart of darkness j.Conrad ( my favourite line from that book: We live, as we dream,; Alone)

off topic: Has it been discussed that on the initiation video, the EXIT sign is reflecting in the wrong direction, so that it can be read forwards. Again, backwards is forwards, a theme throughout lost. It is clearly reflected "exit" when it should read "tixe" , any help here, maybe I am wrong. ( i just researched this and on other sites they are saying it was to reinforce that the video was made at different times )

Thanks for all the great points

i can totally understand why Locke called it his hatch and he has the right to decide who gets to use it and who doesn't. after all, he is the one who found the hatch and he is the one who wanted