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Key Points from "Lockdown"

Season 2, Episode 17
Episode Air Date: 03/29/06

Point 1
Locke

Henry Gale
To the constituency who thought last week's episode was a little slow, I ask one simple question: How you like it now?

My God did we ever have an episode. Hatches and Others and balloons and fruit gambling (yes, fruit gambling) swirling about in a maelstrom of clues and revelations. All in all, it was a jaw-dropper; a pure, this-is-why-I-watch-this-show, jaw dropper.

So let's get to it!

We begin exactly where we left off last week. Locke, Jack and Henry are gathered around the hatch kitchen table, engaged in a mind game of epic proportions. You'll recall that Henry closed last week's episode with a killer curve ball: He suggested that if he was an Other it would behoove him to send a group of castaways on a wild balloon chase into a deep, scary part of the island. This doomed group would then run head-long into a snarling platoon of Others and, ultimately, the captured castaways would be used as trade bait to get Henry back into Other territory.

Henry's coy little tale holds particular relevance because Sayid, Ana-Lucia and Charlie just happened to have scampered off to a deep, scary part of the island on a balloon-finding expedition.

And that brings us to this week. Jack and Locke, having just heard Henry's "scenario," are dumbfounded. Both clearly understand the gravity of the situation -- Sayid, Ana and Charlie could be a world of trouble -- but there's little either can do. Of course, that doesn't prevent bullheaded Jack from demanding that Henry draw another map to the balloon so that Jack can go and ... well, he can't go any do anything. The balloon group left over a day ago, so by the time Jack got to the location, the trio would already be Other chum. Jack's eyes dart wildly around the hatch; he looks like a crazed wolf (or a good actor stuck on a family drama with Jennifer Love Hewitt). Locke, however, is calm. He knows the situation is out of his control, so he's content to let destiny take its course. (These antithetical reactions represent reason No. 4,200 why Jack and Locke will eventually beat the crap out of one another.)

Jack, miffed and pissed and generally upset, huffs off to go do doctorly things. This leaves Locke and Henry all alone. This is also where things become very interesting indeed.

With Jack departed, Henry tries to once again crawl into Locke's mind and screw with the machinery. He asks Locke why he lets Jack talk to him "that way" (Jack was all huffy toward Locke). But the Jedi mind trick doesn't work this time (perhaps Locke finally remembered that he' the island's Obi-Wan). Locke rises and grabs Henry by the collar. He rips the frail Mr. Gale from his seat and marches him across the kitchen, then slings Gale into the armory and slams the door shut. All the while Henry whimpers, "I'm sorry, John. I'm sorry."

Wuss.

Locke then uses a time-honored anger management technique to temper his frazzled nerves: he exercises on a circa-1972 stationary bike (slap a banana seat on that puppy and they've got themselves a featured segment on "Antiques Roadshow"). While Locke pedals, a funky jazz song blares from the hatch speakers. The music obscures Henry's whimpering; it also inadvertently obscures a very important recorded message.

Locke's ears perk up as he hears static and a garbled female voice cut through the jazz song. He snaps off the hi-fi, then traces the static to a loudspeaker in the nearby hallway. A female voice is definitely saying something, but it's impossible to understand the words. The lights begin to flicker.

Henry calls from the armory: "John, John, what's that? What's going on? Oh woe!"

"Suck it, Henry!" Locke shouts (not really, but he should have).

Locke continues to fiddle with the loudspeaker. The female voice becomes clear:

"Five ... Four ... Three ... Two ..."

Oh this isn't going to be good.

"ONE."

The lights cut on and off and a heavy whir echoes through the hatch. Suddenly, heavy metal doors begin to slide over doorways and windows. Locke whirls and watches as the room literally closes in on him. Seeing that one door has yet to fully close, Locke throws on his fedora and bullwhip and grabs a crowbar, then sprints and sliiiiiides across the hatch floor, planting the crowbar under the metal blast door just before it slams to the ground. Indy would be so proud.

The flush of Jonesian excitement immediately turns into pure discontent because Locke is now mired in a quagmire: he's locked in the hatch with an alleged Other, and help won't be coming anytime soon.

Locke, ever the gamer, formulates a plan. He concludes that a series of levers might push the door high enough for someone to crawl through. Unfortunately, this plan requires strength Locke just doesn't have. If only he could find someone to help him ... hmm.

Locke sidles up to the locked armory door (the armory was not cut off when the blast doors fell) and asks Henry if he can perhaps spare some time to help him lift a two-ton blast wall. Henry initially responds like you'd expect a guy who's been locked in an armory for days on end to respond: he snarfs incredulously. But then we see Henry's brain whir to life -- he senses an opportunity. Henry offers a deal: he'll help Locke if Locke "gives his word" (Henry's phrase) to protect Henry from future harm.

It's a slick deal. Henry knows that even if Sayid, Ana and Charlie find a balloon and a grave, he's still up crap creek because they could easily say they didn't find evidence of Henry's alibi or, more likely, they could admit finding the goods but kill him for sport. If Henry can play to Locke's sense of honor, perhaps he can buy more time to worm his way out of this predicament.

Locke listens to Henry's offer but doesn't immediately respond. He gets his Sam the Eagle face and thinks real hard, but really, there's not a lot to think about because escape requires collaboration with the mind-gamer in the armory. Locke spins the armory lock and swings the door open. He looks Henry dead in the eye and asks, "Who are you?"

Henry responds flawlessly: "I am Henry Gale from Minnesota. I'm a rich 'mining' company owner who crashed a hot-air balloon on this island, then buried my wife, then ended up in that crazy French chick's trap, and now I'm stuck in this armory trying to screw with your brain so you'll believe my bullshit story. That's who I am." (Editor's note: I'm paraphrasing).

Locke, satisfied with Henry's response, gives Henry his word.

And with that, the two set about trying to open the blast door. First they use a crowbar, and then they slide a weight bar under the door crack. The door inches upward. Locke's eyes grow wide as sees daylight. Henry grabs a heavy metal toolbox and crams it under the door, hoping it will support the massive wall. The door crunches the top of the box, but the trusty toolbox holds.

All this door business has left Locke and Henry huffing and gasping, so the two take a breather. Bad idea. The metal door is cracked wide enough for either Henry or Locke to slide through, yet both have chosen to mill around, maybe have a smoke and talk about island ladies. For some reason, they believe that a rickety old Dharma toolbox is going to hold up a two-ton blast door built to withstand a thermonuclear blast. Yeah, that's gonna work.

At that precise moment, the hatch countdown alarm snaps Locke from his reverie. He realizes that he needs to boogie under the metal door and get to the computer before the still-unexplained countdown crosses the zero barrier (again). Locke drops down and slides his legs under the door ... and that's when the toolbox groans and crunches. The door slams onto Locke's legs! The toolbox holds momentarily, but the door is slowly cramming thousands of pounds of pressure onto the crinkling metal frame of the box (and Locke's previously paralyzed legs). Locke, grimacing in pain, shouts to Henry, and for some odd reason Henry decides to help. Henry grabs nearby exercise weights and stacks them feverishly below the door. The weights redistribute the pressure; Locke breathes a side of relief. Whew! Now Locke will simply slide back and everything will be ...

Oh ... CRAP.

Searing pain shoots through Locke's body (not exactly what a recent paraplegic wants to feel). He looks down and sees that one of the door's thick metal teeth has sliced into his leg, caking his cargo pants with blood and tissue (yeah, gross). Locke is going nowhere.

And all the while, the countdown alarm continues to blare through the hatch ...

Somehow, Locke convinces Henry to take on the button pushing burden. He tells Henry to crawl up into the air ducts and "Die Hard" his way to the mainframe room. Now, I use the word "somehow" because we don't witness their conversation -- at this point we had we just come back from commercial and suddenly Henry is all gung-ho about shimmying through a narrow metal duct and pushing a button. Who's got the Jedi juice now, Henry?

Locke tells Henry exactly what to do: Go into the room and type in the code -- 4 8 15 16 23 42 -- then hit execute. Henry immediately memorizes the numbers. In fact, he seems to memorize those numbers a little too easily ...

Henry looks for the nearest air vent and spots one in the hatch pantry. He starts climbing up shelves, knocking ranch dressing and Dharma Oaties everywhere. We know that Henry is a grand champion mind gamer, but in this next scene we see that he's not the most spry fella on the island. He takes a foolish step and then SLAM, BLAM, HENRY GOES DOWN! He cracks his head on a metal shelf and falls unconscious to the pantry floor.

And still, the alarm sounds ...

Locke screams at Henry and finally the little man groggily awakes. The alarm is still blaring so Henry clearly couldn't have been out for long. Locke pleads with Henry to hurry and the pleading works because Henry darts up the shelves and pounces into the duct system (not sure why he couldn't do that before, but anyway ...). The alarm gets louder. Locke shouts to Henry, but there's no response. The alarm grows louder still. Locke shouts again. From the other room, the countdown clock shuffles wildly -- just like it did when the clock hit zero in "One of Them." An ominous mechanical sound fires up ...

And then the lights go out. The mechanical noise stops. The alarm stops. The shuffling clock stops. Silence and darkness wash over the room.

In the blackness, an electric current sizzles. A dim blue glow envelopes the hatch and Locke blinks, trying to focus amidst the haze of blacklights (Dharma = Deadheads?).

And that's when Locke sees "it."

No, not the smoke monster. Or Kate in a towel. Or Hurley in a towel ...

Locke sees a huge HIDDEN MAP scrawled across the blast door. (Click here for a fantastic screenshot. Thanks to Mark for posting the link.)

His eyes dart over the surface of the door as he tries to discern the various drawings and symbols appearing before him. If only he had a TiVo!

Thankfully, I do have a Tivo, and this is what I saw:

  • The map is contained within an octagon (the same octagon the Dharma logo usually appears within).

  • The map shows at least seven primary "buildings" lining the outer sides of the octagon. Each building is drawn in pink fluorescent ink -- the kind of ink that only appears under blacklights.

  • I have no idea if this is correct, but my impression is that each building is a specific hatch. This contradicts the Dharma orientation film, which suggested there were six hatches, not seven. Then again, we really have no reason to trust information from a Dharma-approved propaganda flick.

  • The seven "buildings" all seem to point toward a large center point. The exact center of the map is marked with a big question mark that's ringed by a fluorescent yellow circle.

  • The outer edges of the map are covered in scribbled handwriting. The handwriting seems to describe specific elements of the various buildings.

  • Taken together, the buildings and scribbles look to be a "master document" that brings together tasty tidbits of Dharma information.
Unfortunately, that's all I could make out. If you happened to catch a clue, please post it in the comments area below.

Moving on ...

Locke's eyes devour the map's details ... left ... right ... up ... down!

The blacklights flicker. Locke's gaze intensifies and his eyes move faster. The lights flicker again, then shut down completely.

A moment later, the primary lights crackle and the hatch returns to normal (well, as normal as it can be -- it is the hatch after all). Suddenly, the metal doors start to lift, including the massive door pinning Locke's legs. The pressure slides off and Locke painfully pushes back, revealing a gaping wound in his leg. The door dilemma has been solved ... but where's Henry?

Locke calls out, but there's no response from the wayward Mr. Gale. Locke pulls himself along the floor, leaving a trail of blood and goo in his wake as he slowly slithers toward the mainframe room. But Henry isn't there. Gasping, Locke rolls over in pain.

And that's when Henry shows up.

Locke is amazed that his prisoner has stuck around. Henry moves in and delicately tends to Locke's wound, then moves him toward the hatch couch so he can rest his gnarled leg. Locke pats Henry on the shoulder. "Thank you for not leaving me," Locke says earnestly.

It's a poignant moment; the kind of moment that taps into the layers of abandonment and angst and upheaval that one broken man has acquired through his tumultuous life. And that brings us to ...

Point 2
Locke ... Locke's backstory.

We've seen plenty of drama in the castaways' backstories, but none of them -- not one -- can touch the tragedy of Locke. It's as though Shakespeare himself crafted this character.

It's been a while since we last went to Locke Land, so let's pause a moment to provide a bit of context. When last we checked in on Locke, he had just been hoodwinked by his no-good father. Well, hoodwinked isn't the best term. In fact, I don't think any term can properly encapsulate the experience of having your long-lost father establish a relationship with you just so he can steal your kidney.

So Locke's dad stole his kidney and Locke, as you can imagine, was none too pleased with this development. Locke's only recourse was to drive to his father's estate and sit outside the front gate in his dilapidated VW bug. He was the very definition of pathetic.

But a glimmer of hope persisted and Locke, despite daddy issues and kidney issues and daddy's kidney issues, managed to maintain a relationship with his new girlfriend, Helen (played by the former Mrs. Al Bundy, Katey Sagal).

In this episode, the backstory picks up with Locke and Helen years later. The two appear to be living in domestic bliss. In fact, Locke is ready to plant a big 'ol piece of marital bling on Helen's ring finger.

But it's not going to be easy.

You see, just as Locke is preparing for a lovely picnic/surprise engagement celebration, Helen scans through the obituaries in the morning paper and lands upon a familiar name: Anthony Cooper.

She mentions the name to Locke and at that exact moment, a thunderbolt of angst shoots into Locke's soul. Anthony Cooper was Locke's no-good, kidney-stealin' daddy.

For some inexplicable reason, Locke decides to attend his father's funeral. He and Helen are the only grievers at the outdoor ceremony. The officiating priest, seeing that his options are limited, asks Locke if he'd like to say anything. Locke rises and steps toward the casket ...

[CLEARS THROAT]

"Dad ... ahem ... you stinking son of a bitch ... I hope Satan sodomizes you with his pitchfork."

Unfortunately, the network censors wouldn't let that line through, so the writers replaced it with:

"I forgive you."

Whatever.

So Locke forgives his daddy and now he's got closure ... or so he thinks. As he finishes "forgiving," he looks up and sees the following:

  1. Two seedy guys are milling around the cemetery.

  2. A silver luxury car churns to life and zips away.
Shortly thereafter we see Locke return to his normal existence. At this point in his life Locke was a home inspector, which means a future episode will involve Locke unmasking Dharma's secrets by detecting high radon levels in their subterranean headquarters.

But I digress ...

The remaining backstory elements are filled with angst and exposition, but I'm going to eschew all that in favor of handy bullet points (yes, I'm lazy).

We see/learn/experience the following from Locke's backstory:

  • Locke performs a home inspection for a pretty woman with an Iraqi accent. How do I know she's Iraqi? Because it's NADIA, Sayid's long-lost lady love! The exchange lasted two seconds and it was completely unremarkable save for Nadia's revelation that she's not married, but it was definitely her.

  • Following Nadia's inspection (that's not as dirty as it sounds), Locke notices a silver luxury car parked across the street. He strides toward the driver's side ... the window slides down ... and there, looking quite lively for a dead man, is the grinning face of the definitely-not-dead Anthony Cooper!

  • Cooper treats his boy to a beer at a local tavern. Locke is shaking with rage and confusion. Cooper, unaware that his son is two seconds from carving him open with an ice pick, tells Locke that he faked his own death because he scored a $700,000 con and two henchmen have been trailing him. These are the same two guys Locke spotted at Cooper's "funeral." (Sidenote: Cooper specifically used the word "con" ... I wonder if he spent any time in Tennessee during the '70s?)

  • The story gets so much worse. Cooper asks for Locke's help. He needs him to retrieve the $700,000 from a safe deposit box then bring it to Cooper at a motel near the airport. In exchange for his assistance -- and because he feels oh-so-bad about that kidney thing -- Cooper says Locke can keep $200,000 for himself. What a magnanimous guy.

  • Spurred by a pathological desire for his father's love, Locke gets the $700,000 from the safe deposit box (box No. 1516, by the way) and then zips back home to Helen. Upon arriving, Locke is at first giddy with excitement -- after all, he just scored $200,000 and his daddy's respect -- but the excitement turns sour when Locke spots the two seedy fellas from the funeral standing in his kitchen. The men have caught on to Cooper's scam and they've dropped by Locke's abode to inquire about a certain sum of cash Locke may have stumbled upon. The men take Locke's bag and dump it on the kitchen table, but Locke -- ever wily, even when riddled with daddy angst -- has stowed the money safely away. The bag is filled with only papers and pens. Disappointed, the henchmen grunt and flee.

  • It's at this point that Helen starts to get real twitchy. She's been with Locke through some seriously sucky times and she has no desire to return to those dark daddy days. She asks Locke if something sinister is going on. Locke says no.

  • Later, Locke gets the $700,000 together and visits his daddy at the airport motel. The two spend a few uncomfortable moments together (Locke tells daddy he's going to propose to Helen; daddy feigns interest), but the father-son bonding is interrupted by a knock at the door. Cooper swings the door wide and there, standing outside with anger pulsing from every pour in her body, is Helen. She tracked Locke to the motel and now she's ready to set fire to him, it and everything within a 10-mile radius. Helen berates Cooper for screwing up Locke's life and she punctuates her rant with a swift SMACK across Cooper's face. With that, she turns on her heel and darts off.

  • Locke pursues Helen to the motel parking lot and, in a last ditch effort, tries to save their relationship by proposing. He pulls a diamond ring from his jacket pocket (he was planning on proposing later that night) and gets down on one knee. At this point, the man is vulnerable incarnate (Terry O'Quinn deserves an Emmy for this moment alone), but Helen, realizing she'll never be able to untangle Locke's gordian daddy knot, declines Locke's marital offer with a slow shake of her head. Without a word, she gets into her car and drives off, leaving Locke in a puddle of agony.
And that's it. How Locke has managed to not blow his brains out is beyond me ... and on top of that, we still don't know how he became paralyzed!
Point 3
Jack

Kate

Sawyer

Hurley
It was nice to have a break from the Jack-Locke bitchfests that have punctuated recent episodes, but it appears that Jack's macho BS simply can't be stopped. Case in point: he and Sawyer duke it out in the island's first "Mine's Bigger Than Yours Poker Tournament" (watch closely and you can see mini ESPN cameras hidden in the coconuts).

The card game begins when Jack spots Sawyer conning Hurley and Kate out of their hard-earned papayas (seriously, they're betting with papayas). Jack strides up and, without seeing any of the players' hands, correctly instructs Hurley not to challenge Sawyer. It's an impressive display that reveals Jack's heretofore unknown card skills. Sawyer, duly impressed, offers Jack a direct challenge and Jack accepts.

So Jack takes a seat and he proceeds to steamroll the opposition. In a matter of minutes he's acquired a fine collection of papayas, bananas, mangos, pineapples, and Dharma fruit cocktail. He's clearly won the day (and the fruit), but Sawyer simply can't let it go, so he offers to go double or nothing.

The machismo has reached unprecedented levels, and Kate, for the first time ever, has the perfect line for the occasion: "Uh, should I go get a ruler?"

With that, Hurley and Kate exit the proceedings and Jack and Sawyer get down to business. The bet is simple: If Sawyer wins, he gets all the fruit. If Jack wins, he gets to raid Sawyer's secret stash and take all the medicine.

The card game is notable for the following reasons:

  • We learn a few character clues: Jack says he learned to play cards in Phuket. Sawyer reveals that, despite dropping out in ninth grade, he knows Phuket is in Thailand (he also knows it's not pronounced like it's spelled). Sawyer asks Jack if he got his tattoo in Thailand, but Jack doesn't respond.

  • Jack wins the game, which means he's put an end to Sawyer's Reign of Medicine Terror. Jack's win also leads to this snarky-but-interesting exchange:

    Sawyer: "When I asked you what you wanted for stakes, why didn't you ask for the guns?"

    Jack: "When I need the guns, I'll get the guns."

    (At this point Kate ran in with a ruler and declared Jack the undisputed winner).

One last thing: The playing cards were marked with Dharma logos, which means that at least one of the undiscovered hatches is home to the world's greatest marketing team. Disney doesn't have this kind of branding.
Point 4
Jack

Kate
The writers have decided to rekindle the Jack-Kate relationship, which is weird because just a few episodes ago Kate was all ga-ga over Sawyer (granted, she thought Sawyer was channeling the soul of her dead dad, but still ...)

To be honest, the one area of this show that feels forced is the love triangle between Jack, Kate and Sawyer. Or is it a love rectangle? Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Ana? Hell, if we can get Charlie in there we'll make it a love pentagram!

Relationship nonsense aside, this episode's Jack-Kate flirting does have relevance to wider events. For example:

  • Secret prisoner Henry Gale isn't going to be secret much longer (more on that in a second). In the last two episodes, Kate has been nipping at Jack's heels about visiting the hatch and in each instance Jack has lied right to Kate's face (his latest excuse: "uh, you can't get naked and take a shower in the hatch because we've got a broken ... uh ... pipe"). Now, Kate actually finds out about Henry Gale at the end of this episode (again, I'll get to that), but what's important about her exchange with Jack is that Kate's inquisitiveness is undoubtedly representative of the castaways' mindset. After all, why do Jack and Locke get to hang out in a well-appointed hatch while the rest of them decompose amidst salt water and tropical mosquitos?

  • In a closing segment, Jack and Kate's flirt session is interrupted when they see a bright light blinking in the jungle. They run in and discover ... a supply of Dharma food. The blinking light is a beacon and the food is part of a balloon air drop. This means we finally have a plausible explanation for the hatch's well-stocked pantry and its modern washer and dryer.
Point 5
Sayid

Ana-Lucia

Charlie

I saved the best for last.

Last week we watched as Sayid, Ana and Charlie ventured deep into the island's interior to corroborate Henry's ridiculous balloon story. In many ways it's a last-ditch effort: torture and incarceration haven't broken Henry, and the castaways don't have the option of keeping him locked up indefinitely. Something needs to be done. So Sayid, Ana and Charlie are working under the assumption that finding -- or not finding -- Henry's mystery balloon will either back up or negate his story. There are billions of flaws to this argument (the balloon could have blown away, the map could be wrong, Henry might be insane, etc.), but this is all they've got.

Well, it's all that they had. What they've actually got is very, very interesting.

But I'm getting ahead of myself.

The episode picks up with Sayid, Ana and Charlie searching blindly for remnants of Henry's balloon and/or remnants of his dead wife. Rain is pelting down and the search is going poorly (... or well, if you're Sayid and you want justification for cooking up marinated Henry tips). But lo and behold, Charlie discovers a gravesite plopped in the woods. It's a simple grave, exactly as Henry noted. but where's the damn balloon? Ana wonders aloud why it's not raining on them anymore (the storm continues to rage). The trio looks up ... and that's when they see a big smiley-face hot air balloon covering the tree canopy. Grave ... balloon ... looks like Henry is in the clear! Right? Right?

At the very end of the episode, Sayid, Ana and Charlie stumble upon Jack and Kate moments after the flirting duo discovered the air-drop supplies. At this point, we believe that Sayid, Ana and Charlie have found proof of Henry's innocence.

We are wrong.

The scene shifts to the hatch, where Henry is helping Locke with his leg. The two engage in cordial banter -- Locke asks how Henry got the blast doors to go up, Henry says he entered the code and the doors lifted -- but just as they seem to be getting all chummy, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Ana and Charlie march in. Jack slams Henry against a wall as Sayid trains his pistol on Henry's beady eyes. Locke protests, saying that Henry helped him. But those protests aren't going to make one bit of difference now ...

"Couldn't you find my balloon?" Henry asks nervously.

[CUE VENGEFUL SAYID]

"We did find your balloon, Henry Gale. Exactly as you described it," Sayid says menacingly. "We also found the grave you described, your wife's grave. The grave you said you dug with your own bare hands. It was all there. Your whole story ... your alibi. It was true."

[LONG ANGRY PAUSE]

"But still I did not believe it to be true," Sayid snarls. "So I dug up that grave ... found that there was not a woman inside."

[OH MY]

"There was a man ... "

Sayid looks down. The camera zooms in on a driver's license in Sayid's hand.

" ... a man named, Henry Gale."

The license clearly reveals that the beady-eyed man who's been claiming to be Henry Gale is definitely not the Henry Gale who lives at 815 Walnut Ridge Rd, Wayzata, MN 55391.

This beady-eyed man is, however, completely screwed.

And with that, the Gale mystery deepens: Who is the non-Henry Gale? Who was the real Henry Gale? Is the non-Henry Gale an Other? What the hell are they gonna do with this guy? And finally, which "Lost" crew member grew up in Wayzata, MN?

That's it for now. Be sure to drop by our "Lost" Forum for stimulating conversation and conjecture.

Next Episode:
"Dave" -- Hurley freaks out and Libby is there to pick him up. Ranch-covered romance could ensue. Airs: Wednesday, April 5, 9 p.m., ABC.




Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc.



Posted by Mac Slocum on March 30, 2006 11:02 AM |




GREAT WORK MAC....record time

#1. Posted by: db at March 30, 2006 11:04 AM

why didnt the fake HG destroy the real HGs I.D card when he buried then he could have claimed he was travelling with the man in the grave.

#2. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 11:16 AM

Hey Mac,
I have to say you have the absolute BEST episode recaps!!! Thank you for all your hard work & time for the rest of us!

One question, I unfortunately just discovered your site this second season. Where can I find your recaps for the first season episodes?

Thanks!

#3. Posted by: LFan at March 30, 2006 11:27 AM

The 7th station on the map is actually crossed out. There is a note that says the 7th station was aborted due to a large number of underground springs.

#4. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:28 AM

Great review, as usual. All I know is that one of the writers MUST have gone to University of Florida... how else do you explain Tallahassee (where arch-rival Florida State resides) being a hellhole of a place where Sawyer gets STDs and where Kate tries to run off to via bus?

#5. Posted by: JD at March 30, 2006 11:28 AM

Great blog!!

Just a question about the funeral, maybe I don't remember exactly correctly, but wasn't there another man in a suit standing behind Helen and Locke? Wonder who he might be.

#6. Posted by: Ali at March 30, 2006 11:29 AM

There is also a note on the map that says, "Activity minimal during lockdown and resupply procedure"... This would seem to imply that the closing of the blast doors is related to the resupply drop.

#7. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:30 AM

LFan -- you can read all the season 1 stuff here:

http://www.filmfodder.com/tv/lost/archives/
cat_lost_season_1_reviews.shtml

And for anyone who's interested, I have created two separate index pages for each season. You can find them up at the top of the page in the right-hand navigation: Lost Reviews - Season 1 and Lost Reviews - Season 2.

Hope that helps!

#8. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 11:31 AM

Ali -- My thought was that the guy in the suit as a funeral director. I could be wrong, though!

#9. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 11:32 AM

Well well well. What an episode. I'd like to make an observation regarding the blast doors... Henry tells Locke that he didn't do anything to make the blast doors go up, so why did they go up (and why did they come down?) Well, what else was happening at the time...? The Dharma Supplies drop! I suggest that the food drop is scheduled and is automatic (doesn't need a person to make it happen). When a Supply drop is scheduled, the hatch puts itself on lockdown mode to keep the contamination of the island out (rememebr the Quarantine sign?) while the hatch inhabitent goes outside to gather the supplies. The voice over the loudspeaker was telling the hatch-dweller to prepare to go get the food, he is then supposed to leave (maybe with a gas mask on or something?), the blast doors come down, and open again after he has had sufficient time to return with the supplies.
I totally knew Henry's balloon was going to have something to do with something like this!
I can't wait for next week's episode, looks like we'll be finding out some more info about Hurley and maybe Libby too!

Does anyone know where we can find a screen shot of thw black-light map on the blast door? I'd like to take a closer look (no TiVo for this girl).

I remember reading somewhere that we were supposed to find a link between Locke and Sawyer in this episode, did anyone catch something I missed?

Hooray Lost! Great review, Mac!

#10. Posted by: sarah at March 30, 2006 11:32 AM


Several of the stations on the map are named. In addtion to the Swan, you can see the Arrow (found by the tailies in The Other 48 Days), the medical hatch (found by Claire), and new hatch named The Flame.

#11. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:34 AM

There is an enhanced picture of the map at the following link. You can read most of the text on this version.

http://www.projectargo.com/lost-wallenhanced3.png

#12. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:37 AM

Mac, you are a genius. I wait every week for your review. Didn't they use the Dharma cards earlier this season? Just a thought.

Also, did we finally figure out why they have to push the button? It sorta makes sense. They push it to tell them they do not need supplies. The doors lockdown, the button can't be pushed. That tells them to make the drop, while waiting they can read the map telling them where the drop will be. After the drop, everything opens and resets and they keep pushing the button.

#13. Posted by: Kevin at March 30, 2006 11:38 AM

Wait a minute... is that the Dark Tower at the center of the map? Just kidding...

#14. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:43 AM

that was probably why Kelvin was out when he discovered Desmond also Kevin your opinion as been debunked Desmond would have starved, because he didn't miss a single countdown and if he did he would have known the world would not end

#15. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 11:45 AM

That was the best review by far! After the Satan comment I sat here and laughed for about 10 minutes straight! Bravo!

#16. Posted by: Theoldred at March 30, 2006 11:49 AM

A co-worker already found this on the web. Geeze people have too much time on their hands.

http://rossnewberry.googlepages.com/lost-wallenhanced3.png.jpg

#17. Posted by: Kalico at March 30, 2006 11:49 AM

Oh this is cheeky.

During the scene at the motel, the plane that flies over Locke is, of course, an Oceanic plane:

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/oceanicPlanes.jpg

#18. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 11:52 AM

Mac you are the greatest. I get just as excited for your recap as I do for the show.

I would say that the third man at the funeral was the funeral director, and I am most interested to see how Locke, Sawyer, and daddy all fit together.

#19. Posted by: Gerard at March 30, 2006 11:52 AM

This may be the best one yet:
http://i2.tinypic.com/sm8378.jpg

Dunno how they got it before the ep from the producers, but it looks to be valid..

#20. Posted by: Adam at March 30, 2006 11:52 AM

mark- how do you know the next one is the flame

#21. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 11:54 AM

The "Ohters" have Henry Gale's wife, he dead in the crash, she lived, buried him then was captured by the others. She told their story to the fake Henry Gale and he used it as his cover story when he was captured. This would explain why the I.D. was still on the body. This is my theory.

#22. Posted by: mad about lost at March 30, 2006 11:55 AM

Adam -- awesome link! I'm 99% sure that's from Entertainment Weekly. Jeff Jensen is their "Lost" guru. Ah to have EW's connections ... They deserve it though; it's a fantastic magazine.

#23. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 11:56 AM

Oh by the way Mac, Great work I love the weekly reviews and commentary. Look forward to reading it, and have turned a few co-workers onto the page also.

I 100% think the blast doors closing and opening had something to do with the drop off of the supplies.

Do you think Kate and Claire have mentioned the other hatch yet to Jack and Locke? You think it would be a hot topic of discussion.

#24. Posted by: Kalico at March 30, 2006 11:57 AM

Look at the picture of the map (I posted a link above). You can see one of the stations (it's #4) is named The Flame.

#25. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 11:57 AM

Tallahassee might have some significance there too. When Kate was going to buy her bus ticket, she was going to Tallahassee, and Sawyer in this episode said that he new what Amoxicillin was because he's been to Tallahassee. This could at least be a similiar trait between at least two characters. But what is in Tallahassee?

#26. Posted by: Michael at March 30, 2006 11:59 AM

wow, how the heck did you get these enhanced images of the dharma map??? i rechecked my Tivo and couldn't make out any of the words.

#27. Posted by: lostADDICT at March 30, 2006 12:01 PM

Michael... Jeb Bush is in Tallahassee.

#28. Posted by: Mark at March 30, 2006 12:01 PM

I just knew the Bush family was somehow involved in this ;)

#29. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 12:02 PM

go on 2 the tailsection. com the map can be seen clearly with minimal eye strain

#30. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 12:03 PM

http://elfurl.com/2kris

This is the best link to the map I've found yet. It's being updated all the time as people get a better read on the writing.

#31. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 30, 2006 12:05 PM

when u see the map double click it will appear on a blank page then go to the bottom right corner and an icon will appear 'expand' u can see all the words clearly like reading from a book

#32. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 12:05 PM

the incident could not of been the plane crash as it was in 1985

#33. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 12:07 PM

according to the diagram the 5 hatches are the arrow, flame, swan, staff and one unknowed (closed down)

#34. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 12:10 PM

Great re-cap Mac. Couple points:

1) On the map (thanks for the links above) there is Latin phrase scribbled 3 times �Sursum Corda� It is an expression meaning �Lift up your hearts� which is intoned at the start of the Eucharistic Prayer during Catholic Mass. It is/was also the name of a Cooperative is a small neighborhood located in Washington, D.C. It had 199 housing units constructed as an experiment in cooperatively managed low-income housing in 1968. Managed by the District of Columbia Housing Authority, it became a notorious open-air drug market plagued by violence and poverty in the 1980s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sursum_Corda

2) It is also a Ralph Waldo Emerson, Poem http://www.emersoncentral.com/poems/sursum_corda.htm

3) What if the blast doors are meant to protect the people in the hatch form the massive electromagnet field generated that pulls stuff to the Island? (e.g. planes, balloons, ships, supply drops etc. ) How else could a supply drop hit the island in the exact right spot in the middle of the night?

Just some food for thought� Looking forward to next week.

#35. Posted by: CMW at March 30, 2006 12:21 PM

Thanks for all the great recaps. I read them every Thursday as soon as they are posted. One minor thing -- Helen is Mrs. Al Bundy, not Mrs. Ed Bundy. :)

#36. Posted by: Elvis at March 30, 2006 12:23 PM

Here is Mapquest's guess at Wayzata, MN. It's funny that it centers the city in the middle of a lake.

http://elfurl.com/offzz

#37. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 30, 2006 12:27 PM

Guys, do me a favor and watch out for long URLs. As you've seen, they screw with the page. I'd appreciate it if you could run them through a TinyURL program. You can find one here:

http://elfurl.com

Thanks

#38. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 12:32 PM

Elvis -- Thanks for the catch!

#39. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 12:34 PM

Did anyone notice the first shot of the cards in the poker game? There were:

- 4

- 8

- 3 + 4 + 8

- 6 + 10 (jack)

- 3 + 4 + 6 + 10 (jack)

:)

#40. Posted by: Dan at March 30, 2006 12:42 PM

Hmmm... I wonder if the producers thought up the whole numbers thing over a game of poker?

#41. Posted by: Rich at March 30, 2006 12:44 PM

Crazy episode!!

Can we now assume that the real Sawyer is Locke's dad???

p.s. WE NEED MORE SAYID and ECKO!!!!!

#42. Posted by: Phil Zoop at March 30, 2006 12:49 PM

Hey MAC !
Love reading you points each week !
I live in upsdtate new york, and my local station did not cut off the conversation between Henry and Locke about how he will get over the the geodome to enter the numbers. It went something like this :

LOCKE - "You have to use the air ducts to crawl over to the Geodome so you can enter the numbers."

Henry - "But I cant get into the airducts. The airvent in the gun room is bolted shut."

LOCKE - "Use the vent in the pantry. Its above the food shelves. Just be careful !"

ANd of course clumsy ass Henry fall on his "other ass" and knocks himself out cold.
:P

Keep up the great work brotha' !
:)

#43. Posted by: Scully815 at March 30, 2006 12:50 PM


Is it me, or was it Sayid's Iraqi girlfriend's house that Locke was inspecting....me thinks it is!!!!!

#44. Posted by: vikki at March 30, 2006 12:52 PM

Vikki, methinks you are right. If Mac had not pointed it out in his recap, I completely would have missed it myself. I wonder how that is going to tie in later....

#45. Posted by: J-Rod at March 30, 2006 12:57 PM

Better link to Dharma Blast Door:

http://www.thehatchonline.com/images/dharmadoor.jpg

Regards,
MEMENTO

#46. Posted by: memento at March 30, 2006 12:57 PM

Sorry about that. I'm used to HTML.

To ACE: I don't think that Henry expected anyone to dig up the grave of his dead 'wife' so he thought the license was safe.

About the backstory: We see Locke is a sucker for helping people even if it costs him something he already has. (Helen) Perhaps a parallel with Jack the gambler because Locke gambles with his life (girlfriend, family, kidney).

We see Jack as the confident gambler but then when he tells Kate the lie about the shower, wouldn't it be obvious he's been showering.

Also a theory, Jack was in Phuket to learn some illegal surgery technique which helped him heal his wife?

#47. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 30, 2006 1:00 PM

Aren't air drops typically made from a plane? How come no one heard anything?

#48. Posted by: Sue at March 30, 2006 1:06 PM

Has anyone ever spent a long amount of time using www.oceanicflight815.com. In it, if you use the explore feature, you kind of 'connect the dots' and get to view different video clips - and the resulting diagram looks a lot like the faint lines between the hatches on the "Map". There may have been previous discussion of this site, and if so I apologize for the redundancy...I'm trying to see how and if these things tie together though. Is there more the oceanicflight815 site that I'm missing?

Thanks!

#49. Posted by: Adam at March 30, 2006 1:08 PM

Avid reader, first time poster. BZ mac for the awesome recaps. It's obvious there is a strong religious undertone running thru this entire series. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Locke's mom claim Emaculate Conception? And then there is Eke. It has already been noted that the blast door map had Sursum Corda written on it, the phrase 'liberte te ex inferno'(Save yourself from Hell) is also scribbled on the map.

#50. Posted by: Maxlife at March 30, 2006 1:09 PM

After Jack informed Sawyer that he had spent some time in Phuket, Sawyer asked if that was where he got his ink (tattoos). I saw a really cool special on the travel channel a while back about tattoos in Thailand, specifically a big festival held in Phuket. Apparently, many people in Thailand take their tattooing seriously b/c they believe that the right tattoo created by a qualified artist can actually protect them. Some have attested to being 'bullet-proof' as a result of their tattoo. I have no idea where I'm going with this...but I guess it's food for thought. Any ideas?

#51. Posted by: J-Rod at March 30, 2006 1:24 PM

Hi, I should probably read the whole re-cap before posting what I think is a mind blowing revelation...duh! Sorry, y'all! Thanks, J-Rod...

#52. Posted by: vikki at March 30, 2006 1:25 PM

What an episode! Probably one of my favorites... anyways.. my theory is that:

The lock down happens when the supplies is dropped so that the person in the hatch (desmond) can't get out to maybe escape with the plane? Then the dors go back up after a good amount of time.. but again this doesnt make sense because Jack and Kate would have heard the plane...hmmm...

#53. Posted by: Sierra at March 30, 2006 1:41 PM

Another Big Mac masterpiece review. Most entertaining.

I agree that good old Henry memorized the numbers too quickly and easily after Locke said them. My first thought was that he had to already have known them.

Thanks for the Nadia catch...and the safe deposit number catch... I missed those both. But then again, I know I don't have to pay attention too closely since I have you to rely on!

Anyone notice the mapquest link to Wayzata, MN shows 'Gale Rd.' right under the star? Very interesting.

I fully believe that Locke's dad is the real Sawyer.

#54. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 1:45 PM

once again, great review mac-that satan line was a pulitzer winner! and what an episode huh! i guess this was an in-your-face to all those doubters from the writers!

i too think that the dropoff was the reason the hatch went into lockdown. it perfectly makes sense that because of the quarantine the hatch goes into lockdown so that no one can enter it...but then other areas like the computer are accessible?? and i agree that someone should have at least heard if not seen the plane...or maybe the electromagnetic theory works for that, the dropoff is made somewhere not above the island but the package is attracted by the electromagnetism...wow, this is awesome!!!

did anyone notice that henry gale's license expires in '03 and being a minnesotan i know that the licenses here are usually good for 5 years(correct me if i am wrong here) so that would mean that it was renewed in 1998. maybe that helps figure out when the crash occurred. also, it would be interesting to see how they tie in the story of the new henry gale into the show...was that an actual actor in the photo or just some extra?

thanks for the links to the hatch maps everyone...for those of us without tiVo, we are forever grateful!

Love this show!!!

#55. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 30, 2006 1:49 PM

Yo, could it be possible to find a way to view this on the net? I somehow (please don't crucify me for this) forgot about LOST last night. I can't seem to figure out how, as my life usually revolves around 9:00 wed nights, but oh well. Mac, i love the blog, and now feel as though I can go on with my week, but I would still really like to see this epi, any suggestions?

#56. Posted by: SarahWhite at March 30, 2006 1:50 PM

this may be my imagination but i dont recall Locke saying the number '43' when he told Gale the numbers and Gale typed them in anyway-can anyone confirm this

#57. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 1:52 PM

Um..."43" isn't one of the numbers ACE.

#58. Posted by: Adam at March 30, 2006 1:56 PM

42 then- wiseguy

#59. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:00 PM

Great review as usual Mac. Thanks again.


Just as a note...one of the phrases in Latin on the door is "Cogito ergo doleo" which roughly tanslates to "I think, therefore I suffer".

#60. Posted by: sharkkiller69 at March 30, 2006 2:03 PM

MAC U DA MAN ! ! ! !

Thanks again for the great recap. You catch stuff that us mere mortals would never see, just kidding, plenty of other posters to your site have caught great insights. Anywho, I now firmly believe that Libby is a pathological liar, and she dropped dime on herself. When Jack is approaching the beach Libby comes to him because she cut her wrist on something while trying to dig for mussels, anyway, Jack looks at it and says a little neosporin woould fix it right up. My point is this, if Libby is a psychiatrist then how come she didn't already now how to treat herself? All phsychiatrist's have to go to medical school and receive at least some basic medical training. If I'm wrong about Libby being a psychiatrist then I apologize, worst case she may have claimed to be a psychologist. In either case she creeps me out man.
When will we find out about Michael, Walt, and Desmond? I wonder how they're gonna resolve that.

Anyway, till next week MAC - Keep up the good work.

#61. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 30, 2006 2:03 PM

Locke definitely said all of the numbers, as did "Henry" when he stated them back to him.

#62. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 30, 2006 2:03 PM

I thought Locke cannot feel anything in his legs? Remember in Deux Ex Machina, Boone was doing all types of things to it and Locke could not feel any pain. So why all of a sudden he is screaming in excruciating pain.

#63. Posted by: Kent at March 30, 2006 2:07 PM

i think that is was the island protecting him in Deus ex Machina but maybe the island can't protect him inside the hatch

#64. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:10 PM

Am I missing the connection between Locke's Father and the real Sawyer? Why are people convinced that they are the same person? - just because Locke's father mentioned a "con". Sorry if this has already been discussed, I just don't see what you are basing this on.

#65. Posted by: SBK at March 30, 2006 2:10 PM

SBK phreaps because Lockes father as scammed someone just about anytime he is on the screen

#66. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:15 PM

I looked up "Sursum Corda" because I must have missed someone sharing that with us above, and here's what I found from Wikipedia:

-- "Sursum Corda, a Latin expression meaning Lift up your hearts which is intoned at the start of the Eucharistic Prayer during the Mass."


Thanks Sharkkiller69 for the translation of "cogito ergo doleo"!! I'd love to know the rest of the translations if anyone can do that!!

#67. Posted by: karen at March 30, 2006 2:18 PM

SarahWhite - you can actually download Lost episodes the day after they air from iTunes. I think they're something like $1.99. Hope that helps.

#68. Posted by: D at March 30, 2006 2:18 PM

SarahWhite:

You can download all the lost episodes for $1.99 on iTunes. They will play on your PC or Mac using quicktime... you don't need an iPod to view the episodes. I've watched a few that I missed this way.

#69. Posted by: Chris at March 30, 2006 2:19 PM

Speaking of timelines, katePlusSun=Fun mentioned that the MN licenses are good for 5 years. I read on another blog that barcoding on the MN driver licenses began in 1999 - is that correct?

Also, when Jack walked up on the beach trio playing poker, Sawyer asked him if he learned to play from watching it on tv. I'm assuming that this is referring to the World Series of Poker that has been running on ESPN, and that tv series became popular around 2003-2004. Some people have theorized that the actual timeframe of this show is something other than the time when the pilot episode aired (2004). Any claims that the timeframe is prior to 2004 would be inaccurate if Sawyer was referring to the World Series of Poker.

#70. Posted by: dknight at March 30, 2006 2:22 PM

I for one liked it better when it appeared everything was happening for supernatural reasons...instead of something logical and rationally explainable. But that's just the sci-fi buff in me I guess.

#71. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 2:24 PM


_____________SYNOPSES VIEWERS___________________

the the preview 4 SOS it looks like Jack and Kate are going to trade HG 4 people that the others had abducted who do u think they will swap them 4?

#72. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:24 PM

As previously noted, the Latin phrases have been translated on the image at the top of this site:

http://elfurl.com/ypg8h

with the exception of the latin phrase right under the big question mark which translated is:
"Don't consider that anything has been done if anything is left to be done."

#73. Posted by: brich at March 30, 2006 2:24 PM

Karen - check out this link that translates the latin right on the map....

http://elfurl.com/2kris

#74. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 30, 2006 2:25 PM

Can someone please describe what scenes for next work were?

#75. Posted by: John at March 30, 2006 2:25 PM

First, this is a tangent from this week's show, but I think it's pretty obvious now - given that it looks more and more like our plane crash survivors are the subjects of a massive longitudinal experiment - that the mysterious black smoke is some kind of state-of-the-art data collection device. Ideally they'll have someone - a mole - in the group collecting ethnographic data. But maybe the smoke is there more often than we think and it's just not detected? Anyway, it's clear from the episode featuring Eko that it collects visual data.

Also, at first I liked the theory that the hatch dweller, upon hearing the countdown, dons some decon suit, then the core of the hatch locks down with him on the other side - presumably to retrieve the dropped supplies. But if the blue-light map really is indicating the location of the supplies, then why does it appear inside the core of the hatch, where the hatch dweller would not be (since he'd be on the other side)?

I also agree that the supplies fall towards the Swan hatch b/c of the electro-magnetic pull. This would explain how a plane or helicopter wasn't heard - b/c it was dropped much much higher up. There's a metal undercasing to the supplies, etc.

This means that if the supplies drop to the same spot every time, then the blue-light map isn't showing where the supplies are after all. What is its purpose, then, given that the hatch dweller is out greeting the supplies? Who's left to read it? Keep in mind that there are supposed to be 2 people in that hatch at all times...

#76. Posted by: Joe at March 30, 2006 2:26 PM

Brich: Jinx!

I don't see on the map though where anyone was able to figure out what was written underneath the question mark, and don't see it on the map either. Where did you find out that little nugget of info?

#77. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 30, 2006 2:27 PM

No matter what medical training the Libster has had, she just wanted the opinion of a real doc. That whole scene was really just a set up to make Jack want to get the med supplies back from Sawyer even more.

#78. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 2:28 PM

The theory that's been floating around my house about Henry Gale and his balloon is this... that's what every Other is programmed to say if captured. That way, the proof is there and the Other is accepted into the group and is now the mole.

#79. Posted by: GeekyGal at March 30, 2006 2:30 PM

the parcels of food might be dropped over the island so in locations so people like desmond and zeke could mesmerize the location of the dropoff and survive

#80. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:31 PM

You can see far more decrypted messages on the image of the map at the bottom of the site I previously mentioned, except the translation of the latin term.

Googled it and found on

http://www.yuni.com/library/latin_4.html

#81. Posted by: brich at March 30, 2006 2:32 PM

May be off topic a little, but one thing keeps bugging me. Why haven't Kate or Claire told anyone about the medical hatch? That was a hugely significant discovery. Particularly the fake beard and ragged costumes she found proving that the others are not the primitives they appear to be.

#82. Posted by: diamondgirl at March 30, 2006 2:35 PM

Joe, as I mentioned in last week's blog, if you're interested in what the black smoke may be, I highly recommend reading Michael Crichton's PREY. The black smoke in LOST is very very very similar in appearance and behavior to the black "smoke" in PREY. Plus, it's a very good book. Guarantee you'll finish it within a few days.

#83. Posted by: KG at March 30, 2006 2:38 PM

What I'm most curious about is what the varous "CV's" on the map refer to.

#84. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 30, 2006 2:39 PM

One of the scribbled notes on the Hatch wall is "Known final resting place of Magnus Hanso / Black Rock". Could this be Alvar Hanso's son?

#85. Posted by: dknight at March 30, 2006 2:40 PM

Well, what makes you think Kate hasnt told anyone about the medical hatch, diamondgirl? Everybody thought that people didnt talk about Walt appearing in the woods until Charlie off-handedly brought it up several episodes later. Things go on behind the scenes that we dont get to see.

But like Jack said: There is no loop. Even if it's true that Kate hasnt told anyone, it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility since they all have severe trust issues.

PS: Im really pissed and disappointed that the whole "jack starting an army" thing was completely disregarded. Piss poor in my opinion.

#86. Posted by: jraw at March 30, 2006 2:41 PM

maybe were the others train and maybe 'apply' 4 a job (CV- curiculum vitae)

#87. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:42 PM

well like u said jraw pheraps they are behind the scenes.

#88. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:45 PM

Dknight - I hadn't given the year any thought before now. Quite honestly, I had assumed all along that it was 2004. However, I went to Oceanic's website, and the little mini calendar they have to show the date of the flight, shows Sept. 22nd, but no year. However, the red dot over the date on the calendar indicates a Tuesday. Now bear with me, but since Australia is a day ahead of the states (which is my main frame of reference), that matches with 2004. Because 9-22-04 was a Wednesday in the US. (Sydney is 16 hours ahead of US Eastern Standard Time.)

#89. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 30, 2006 2:45 PM

For all those who are dissapointed with the progress of Lost, get over it ! This is the best entertainment ever.

#90. Posted by: thinng at March 30, 2006 2:46 PM

I don't think the timer has anything to do with the food shipment. Wouldn't Desmond have told Jack and Locke that if you skip entering the numbers, you'll get more food? Seems to make sense to me.

#91. Posted by: schiano at March 30, 2006 2:47 PM

I noticed the movie Executive Decision with Kurt Russell also flies Oceanic. What's up with that ? Is that the official airline of the Hollywood disaster scenarios ?

#92. Posted by: thinng at March 30, 2006 2:49 PM

Could someone describe the preview for next week? I missed it. Thanks.

#93. Posted by: John at March 30, 2006 2:49 PM

So on the topic of the Black Smoke monster. Someone just referred to it as a data collection device, a security system, also the references to "Cerberus" on the map are hinted to be the monster, and there are references to the monster as being a product of "the incident". Which is it? We need to remember that this monster can brutally kill people (pilot in season 1).

Other points of interest, the Cerberus station was abandoned due to the AH/MDG incident of 1985, what do you think that stands for?

#94. Posted by: brich at March 30, 2006 2:50 PM

BRICH
Alvar Hanso/

#95. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:52 PM

wow - I think I just contradited myself! That's what I get for trying to hold down a full time job and post on the blog at the same time. However, the point is even more interesting because I was wrong. If it was a Wednesday in the states, then 9-22-04 was a THURSDAY in Australia. But Oceanic shows the flight on a Tuesday. So, maybe it really wasn't in 2004!!!! Maybe it was a few years ago (whenever the last time Sept. 22nd landed on a TUESDAY in Australia.) Obviously I suck at figuring that out, but what year would that have been? My brain is fried, but anyone have any ideas?

#96. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 30, 2006 2:52 PM

BRICH
maybe Alvar Hanso/Magnus De-Groot its a strech but i reckon at least Alvar Hanso is correct

#97. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:57 PM

Alright, my ignorance is going to show, but here goes anyway...

The ship at the Black Rock is a really old ship isn't it? Or is it the ship that Rosseau's team was on? If it's old, then the "Last know resting spot of Magnus Hanso" would mean a father of Alvar. If that's the case, maybe provides reasoning for Hanso choosing this island?

Also, any chance the photo of Gale on the MN driver's license is Eko?

And "recreation area for DIHG" on the map? Recreation? Picnics, skipping rope, long walks looking for rainbows? And DIHG = ?? Dharma Initiative?

#98. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 30, 2006 2:57 PM

I dont think the whole unveiling of Henry Gale was too suprising. I think everyone knew that he was an Other, no way the producers would throw some random "good guy" on the show for 6 weeks. His body language gave it away in episode where Sayid beat the crap out of him.
None the less, i still have no idea whats going on on the island.

#99. Posted by: Yale Reardon at March 30, 2006 2:58 PM

Did I notice Claire eyeing Jack like a steak after he checked her baby?

Why has nothing been done with the "Maternity Ward" (possibly location marked "staff" on the door-map) since it was discovered. You would think they would've told Jack or Sayid...
Just a thought.

Great site Mac, long time reader, first time poster. Keep up the good work.

#100. Posted by: chappy at March 30, 2006 2:58 PM

Dharma initive - Henry Gale

he might be dead but he might of played a major role in dharma

#101. Posted by: ACE at March 30, 2006 2:59 PM

There's going to be some conflict between Locke and the Lostaways when he tries to intervene to stop the torture/killing of 'Henry'. He gave 'Henry' his word...which may be null and void since 'Henry' lied right to Locke's face before Locke gave his word. But Locke is still very appreciative that 'Henry' didn't leave him, so will probably try to help him.

#102. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 3:04 PM

Thanks KG for the Crichton reference. I missed that last week.

Okay, I have very little (no?) empirical evidence for this one... but I think that the end of Lost will go something like this: our "heroes" (who really aren't heroes, 'cos they're so flawed, they're human, like anyone else) ultimately take over the experiments, perhaps overthrowing the current experimenters, being integrated amongst them, etc. The very last episode shows another plane crashing and the whole thing starting all over again - this time with our protagonists as the "Others."

Everyone's probably already thought of this - I'm sure it's not novel, but I just wanted to throw it out there in case it is.

#103. Posted by: Joe at March 30, 2006 3:04 PM

hookedonlost:

The date is the same no matter what part of the world you're on - you'll just get to it sooner or later depending on location. The day of the week won't change separately from the day of the month.

Thanks, mac. I love reading this every week.

Has anyone mentioned that perhaps the real Henry Gale is Rose's brother? The ABC diary hints that one of the Losties thinks that the person in the hatch is their brother and even confronted Locke about it.

#104. Posted by: t-code-j at March 30, 2006 3:08 PM

The Henry Gail-brother thing in the diary is VERY interesting. I wonder where they're going with that.

#105. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 3:12 PM

Or is it possible Eko had more than one brother and one of them emigrated to the US and changed his name to something American?

#106. Posted by: Trinity at March 30, 2006 3:13 PM

I was wrong, it is AH/MGD incident not MDG on the map. But Definately Alvar Hanso, (right on ACE.) Possibly acronym for one of the "projects on the island". Magnetic .....? I think D.I.H.G is Dharma Initiative Hanso Group, and it is interesting that one of the writings says "The SWAN" is HOME of the HG Delegation Inspection. Many of the notes on the map appear to be made by someone in the know (Dharmatel Intranet issues, failures, blocked routes, present cerberus nexus of activity...) Definately not written by Desmond, and obviously written during a lockdown that lasted a while...

#107. Posted by: brich at March 30, 2006 3:18 PM

warning, this link brings you to spoilers: http://www.spoilerfix.com/lost.php

go down to "General Season 2 Spoilers." anybody have any ideas regarding the one that references rose/locke/jin? i'm stumped by this.

#108. Posted by: madiera at March 30, 2006 3:21 PM

t-code-j:

Wow - do I feel stupid. Good point you raise about the whole day/date thing. Again, that's what I get for trying to talk intelligently on the phone at work, while attempting to post to this blog simultaneously. Nonetheless, though, 9-22-04 was a Wed. and the Oceanic site seems to indicate that 9-22 was a Tuesday when that flight took off. So would that have made it 2003? I don't remember when Leap Year happened last....

#109. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 30, 2006 3:22 PM

hookedonlost - the last time September 22 fell on a Tuesday was in 1998. Hmmmm . . . I don't think that works with the things we know about the characters and their ages, the years certain events in their lives occurred, etc. The mystery deepens.

#110. Posted by: lostgal at March 30, 2006 3:25 PM

Wanna see the preview for next week:

http://lostlinks.net/

Plus other good stuff.

#111. Posted by: Zeppo at March 30, 2006 3:32 PM

Did the clock re-set to 107? I am trying to catch up with lost. Doesn't the clock reset to 108 usually. If I am way off I apologize.

#112. Posted by: mike at March 30, 2006 3:35 PM

Please, no spoiler talk here! I've gone to great lengths to avoid them for this long, and I'm worried that somebody will accidentally spill the beans on this site. I'd prefer to not even know at this point that there will be a Rose/Jin/Locke connection.

#113. Posted by: KG at March 30, 2006 3:35 PM

I still don't see how they are going to rationalize how connected the Lostaways lives off of the island are. Some of it might be mere coincidence (like Locke and Nadia this week) but there's WAY too much for it ALL to be coincidence. I just don't see how it's going to ever make sense, and how they got all these people- who's lives are so unknowingly connected, on a single plane at the same time. There are just so many mitigating factors. Like there's no way anyone could have predicted that Sun was going to choose to get on the plane instead of leaving Jin at the airport like she had planned for so long.

That's why this show is so good. They've sucked me in so far that I HAVE to know all the answers. Even though it'll take years!

#114. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 3:36 PM

Mike, I believe the clock reset to 108, but it took Locke about a minute to recover from the pain of the door dropping on his leg and then start dragging himself in to where the counter is.

#115. Posted by: Zeppo at March 30, 2006 3:41 PM

Good one Mac!!!!

Did anyone notice when the speakers started going crazy, John looked at the computer screen and the cursor was blinking. I think the faux HG probably sent a message of some kind to his buddies. It took him a few minutes to reappear after everything opened up didn't it.

As for the food drop, it was a blinking light that attracted Jack/Kate to the drop. It looked like some kind of homing beacon. If the drops are always in the same place, whey would this be needed. Also, was it a parachute. Idon't have TiVo, but it looked more like a hot air balloon. If so, then that's why no one heard a plane.

Last - I bet 5 mangos and a coconut that Locke's father is the original Sawyer. Any takers

#116. Posted by: DB IN BC at March 30, 2006 3:49 PM

Good one Mac!!!!

Did anyone notice when the speakers started going crazy, John looked at the computer screen and the cursor was blinking. I think the faux HG probably sent a message of some kind to his buddies. It took him a few minutes to reappear after everything opened up didn't it.

As for the food drop, it was a blinking light that attracted Jack/Kate to the drop. It looked like some kind of homing beacon. If the drops are always in the same place, whey would this be needed. Also, was it a parachute. Idon't have TiVo, but it looked more like a hot air balloon. If so, then that's why no one heard a plane.

Last - I bet 5 mangos and a coconut that Locke's father is the original Sawyer. Any takers

#117. Posted by: DB IN BC at March 30, 2006 3:49 PM

KG, my apologies, and i wholeheartedly agree. however, the link implies that the connection should already be evident, so i was hoping for speculation more than anything else.

#118. Posted by: madiera at March 30, 2006 3:52 PM

Crazy Danielle said to Sayid about the fake Henry, "... But know this: He will lie. For a long time. He will lie."

How right she was. The writers put it right in our faces from the get go. Maybe Crazy Danielle isn't so Crazy afterall!

#119. Posted by: JoePike at March 30, 2006 4:09 PM

So, while all of the attention is rightly focused on the map and 'Henry Gale', one thing occurred to me that no one else is focusing on: was there anything interesting in the balloon gondola? A radio perhaps? One of those handy EPIRBs (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon)? Of course, Sayid and co. were more interested in the grave, and the gondola was hanging up in the air, but I'd want to check it out.

#120. Posted by: Mehdron at March 30, 2006 4:22 PM

No worries, madiera. It just takes all of my strength to not follow spoiler links, so I prefer to not see them at all!

As to a Jin/Rose/Locke connection, I'm drawing a blank except for all 3 of them have had their most important relationships in their lives severely tested (w/Sun, w/Bernard, and w/Daddy).

#121. Posted by: KG at March 30, 2006 4:24 PM

Maybe the connection is that the island has "healed" all three of them in some way. Locke's legs were healed, Jin fathered a child and maybe Rose had some medical issue before the crash that has been resolved?

#122. Posted by: ciscokid at March 30, 2006 4:38 PM

Sarah White, you can also download episodes that other people recorded and uploaded for free by downloading a bit torrent program like bitlord, www.bitlord.com, and going to a site like www.isohunt.com and searching for lost... I watched the entire first season that way :)

#123. Posted by: Krissy at March 30, 2006 4:46 PM

In answer to the question about the clock resetting to 107 and not 108, I noticed that when Locke looked at it the 7 was moving just a little, which would mean it had probably just change to 107. If you watch the clock change you will the numbers move a little when they change.

#124. Posted by: mad about lost at March 30, 2006 4:46 PM

Henry Gale is the replacement member for the hatch and the man claiming to be Henry Gale is his "hatch partner". That's what I think anyway.

#125. Posted by: Matthew Thomas at March 30, 2006 4:58 PM

My name ia Adam, and I'm from Minnesota...so really, I'm from Minnesota...

Anyway, Wayzata is a well-to-do Western Suburb of Minneapolis. It's pronounce why-zeta. Just thought you crazy kids would want to know.

#126. Posted by: Adam at March 30, 2006 5:24 PM

Adam, I'm gonna need you to draw me a detailed map to Wayzata ;)

Thanks for the info!

#127. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 5:26 PM

Adam is posing as a guy from Minnesota, he really is an other.

#128. Posted by: Bryan at March 30, 2006 5:29 PM

brich and SthrnMstKGirl:

thanks for posting that site again for me!! I had to be away from the screen for a while and somehow missed the earlier posts! Man, you miss a lot if you have to be gone for a bit!!! I guess that happens when there's just so much great info to go over!!

#129. Posted by: karen at March 30, 2006 5:46 PM

CMW i agree with your magnetic theory the polar bears could also of been sucked in.I was lookin at da door map and i saw something about a zooology center.Another thing about the scribbled out hatch somthing said about "Heavy Water" heavy water is somthing used to produece ATOMIC material. Also many things on the map say C4,CV1,CV2,CV3,CV4 ect. I wonder wat thats about?? Also lots of refrences about the "CURSED" numbers. Lots of writing in Latin but i have yet to see any sings of Latin influence on the island. Another thing says "Activity minimal during lockdown and restocking procedures." Restocking and Lockdown? Sounds familiar doesnt it?? Also lots of writing about weather. Maybe somthing about when "The Monster" comes around it starts to rain?? Another thing is it says "Mulpiple excape conduits blocked after incident". Incident? Mabey somthing abot atomic stuff? O and if any1 can find out wat excape means and post it id appreciat it. If i find any more i will post it. :)

#130. Posted by: Cam at March 30, 2006 5:47 PM

Mac, as always - great review.

Wow, what an episode - Top 5. Anyway, can someone clear something up for me. What exactly did Kate & Jack stumble upon in the jungle toward the end of the episode? I know it was a blimp/parachute of some kind, with Dharma food ... but is this *different* than the balloon faux Henry described, the one found by AL/Sayid?Charlie? Or is it the same? I didn't quite catch that.

One last thing - I think this episode solidified Locke's character as the most dynamic, intriguing, and in-depth. And man, can that Terry O'Quinn dude act.

#131. Posted by: Mike at March 30, 2006 5:47 PM

Bryan...that's funny...

I thought the man in the license was somehow related to Rose. It wouldn't be the first time a survivor ran into a relative in a strange way on this island (Eko...)

And I certainly hope that Locke doesn't defent the Wanna-Be-HG because he clearly paralleled the many people in Locke's backstory who let him down as well....I had the same gut wrenching feeling for Locke watching Helen leave as I did when it was revealed that Wanna-Be-HG was lying the whole time...he really pulled one over on John Locke....I thought Locke was smarter than thaat...come on now!

#132. Posted by: vikki at March 30, 2006 5:53 PM

I've never seen a TV show where information is presented in ways that only technology can show, who could POSSIBLY be expected to get more than a fraction of the content that was shown on the door once the blacklight came on? Surely there is a large segement of the audience that does not have the luxury of reading blogs, examining high resolution captures of the door for details, etc.

*I* don't mind it myself, since I have the access and capability to participate, but for those who don't, it seems... maybe a little unfair?

Opinions?

#133. Posted by: The Duf at March 30, 2006 6:03 PM

Interesting point, the Duf. However, if you think about it, those without tivo or screen shots got to see it for about as long as John Locke did. Maybe that's the point. It was such a fleeting glance, but he knows it's full of so much information. He must feel compelled to figure out a way to get that door back down again.

#134. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 30, 2006 6:05 PM

I've been thinking the same thing. It should be interesting to see how he attempts to get to it.

#135. Posted by: The Duf at March 30, 2006 6:07 PM

One of the Map pics I saw, showed this information very bottom center

"04.08.00, 08.15.01, 01.06.03-Complete shutdown in effect"
so that seems to place current "Lost" time at least after Jan 03.

#136. Posted by: Jim at March 30, 2006 6:11 PM

One part of the map says “Rev. 4.2.02 Possible location of the zoological facility”. If you look this up in the Bible it reads, “At once I was caught up in spirit. A throne was there in heaven, and on the throne sat. (Rev.Ch 4.2). I guess this references other imagery in Ezekiel, “Their faces were like this: each of the four had the face of a man, but on the right side was the face of a lion, and on the left side the face of an ox, and finally each had the face of an eagle. (Ezekiel Ch 1.10) Maybe there was some Island of Doctor Moreau (H. G. Wells) type genetic research imagery going on here as well. More food for thought.

#137. Posted by: CMW at March 30, 2006 6:23 PM

The idea that the numbers are tied to the food delivery seems ever so slightly off... while it does make a certain sense, does anyone believe that Desmond ever 'skipped' his responsibility?

And why would you have to confirm whether or not you needed supplies every 108 minutes? Hmm...

#138. Posted by: The Duf at March 30, 2006 6:30 PM

vikki
what makes you think that rose and the real henry gale are related? because they're both black? that would be like saying I think jack and lock are related because they're both white. maybe you didnt mean to come off like that but thats how it came out.
aside from that this was a terrific episode. in reference to the revival of jack and kates romance, I don't think the writers ever wanted it to die. sawyer and kate have alot in common (scrapes with the law etc.) which will spark an interest between them. but lets remember there have been points where kate has been utterly repulsed by sawyer. jack and kate have a genuine attration to each other. i believe the writers just put this on the back burner for a while to move the story along without the romantic distractions. remember jack has had a prisoner in the hatch for about 4 days. however in real time it has been about 2 months for us (the viewers). so many people may feel like this attraction faded long ago. Total time on the island is still only about two months also.
Lastly, the writing on the wall was the best part of the entire series thus far. I love this show.

#139. Posted by: JAC at March 30, 2006 6:30 PM

Does anyone think there is any significance to the name Henry Gale, i.e., Dorothy Gale's Uncle Henry in "The Wizard of Oz"?

#140. Posted by: Raenell Silcox at March 30, 2006 6:34 PM

Ask again after he encounters the Sayid tornado.

#141. Posted by: The Duf at March 30, 2006 6:35 PM

The Duf -- Interesting point regarding the technological limitations of certain viewers. I've actually considered this angle before because I'm spoiled with both the HD feed and a TiVo, so I get an opportunity to experience all the hidden nuances.

However, I think the genius of this show lies in its layering of experience. For example, a casual viewer could simply enjoy the characters, or the scenery or the plot developments. More involved viewers can immerse themselves in the mythology and clues.

Along these same lines, I believe there are layers of technological experience with this show as well. Folks who don't have HD or TiVo (and I realize this represents roughly 95% of the audience), can enjoy the show for its pure entertainment value. I think it functions quite well as a normal "show." But those of us who are tech geeks and absolutely love HD and TiVo (I won't go back to anything else -- I just won't), can take it a step further and dive into the small details.

The map we saw in this episode is a fantastic example of these techie layers. Viewers without the technology could clearly see that it's a map, and the fact that a sneaky new map randomly appeared is an interesting and intriguing plot development on its own. But those of us who with HD, TiVos and the like (and those of us who absolutely eat up all these little clues) can pour over the details.

Just my two cents. Personally, I think this is a fascinating topic -- thanks for bringing it up!

-- Mac

#142. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 7:06 PM

JAC, vikki (and others) mentioned a possible familial relation between Rose and Henry because ABC has posted a diary entry containing a Lostie writing about "my brother" being locked in the hatch.

#143. Posted by: KG at March 30, 2006 7:16 PM

I want a set of Dharma playing cards! They should definitely sell those babies. I'd buy them.

I just saw the preview for the next episode. Do you think they're going to kill Hurley? I sincerely hope not, 'cause he's my absolute fave. (after Locke and Eko... and Sawyer)

#144. Posted by: SnakeJake at March 30, 2006 7:24 PM

Personally, I hate to say this, but if a main character has to be killed off, I wouldn't mind if it was Hurley. I love him and all, but to me he is the least real. He's a bit too much of a stereotypical slacker, you know? One too many "dude" comments for me, I guess. Who the hell would call Sun "dude"?! The next least real character is Ana Lucia (nobody is that much of a snarling bitch in real life), but they're certainly not going to kill her off at this point.

#145. Posted by: KG at March 30, 2006 7:27 PM

I certainly did not mean to imply that the connection between Rose and the man in the license was simply because they are black. I am not an idiot, thanks JAC.

Perhaps I should have been more clear in making my connection between the ABC diary entry, as KG mentioned, and what I wrote. It made sense in my head but clearly didn't come out that way in what I wrote. For anyone to imply that a connection between them existed only because of skin color really doesn't do justice to the intelligence level that everyone displays here on a weekly basis.

I am truly sorry if I have offended anyone.

#146. Posted by: vikki at March 30, 2006 7:30 PM

"vikki
what makes you think that rose and the real henry gale are related? because they're both black?"

***Mild SPOILER alert***


according to someone on this blog, rose supposedly has a brother named henry gale, or so we find out later

#147. Posted by: alex at March 30, 2006 7:32 PM

Vikki, I don't think you offended anyone. Personally, I think JAC overreacted just a bit.

Anyway, Hurley's not going anywhere. If a main character is going to die, it's either going to be AL, or Charlie - both of their backstories are either dead-end, or too boring. Though I guess you could say the same for Sun & Jin, too.

#148. Posted by: Mike at March 30, 2006 7:34 PM

Duf, You really don't need Tivo or HD to enjoy it though and immerse yourself like this. I don't have HD, i'm lucky enough to have tivo, but i only use it in the moment real quick, i don't go back and rewatch episodes.

There are many posters on here that don't have TiVo, and they get the same out of all this research as me. I think the only technology hinderance would be, do you have internet access? which is a pretty high percentage of America. I wouldn't know 95% of the hidden connection stuff if i didn't come on here, tivo or not.

#149. Posted by: alex at March 30, 2006 7:41 PM

I am starting to think that there has been a disaster on the island, thus the map on the door and a lot of the writing. I think that the others are trying to peice everything back together and the only support that they get is the food. This would explain a lot of the map (ie possible x and possible y).

db

#150. Posted by: db at March 30, 2006 7:52 PM

the arrow, flame, swan, staff and one unknowed (closed down) does this have anything to do with the hieroglyphics? Just a thought....

#151. Posted by: starserpent at March 30, 2006 7:54 PM

Great review as always, Mac!
A few points:
1: Mac, you're comment about how no one on the beach is complaining about the fact that Jack and Locke are getting all the comforts of home in the hatch and the beach people aren't being allowed in, I've been wondering about that, too. Seems more likely that people would be storming the hatch and demanding to be let in (for showers, a comfy place to sleep, etc.)
2: Maybe I missed something back in Confidence man, and if I did, will someone please help me out...as to the theory about Locke's father being Saywer's father: I thought that Sawyer's dad was the one that was conned (by the original Sawyer), NOT the conman. Locke's dad WAS the conman. Also, I don't see how the timeline fits. Sawyer's dad killed himself in 1976, but Locke's dad was around after that (in Locke's flashback, it didn't look like the 70's, take the silver car, for example.) Again, if I'm missing something, please tell me!!
3: Wonder how long it will take Locke to tell anyone about the map? It took him long enough to tell about the hatch..."his" hatch! Maybe it will be "his" map! LOL
4: SOmeone mentioned the name Cerberus on the map )I haven't looked at the detailed pic of the map yet), but Cerberus was the dog guarding the gates of Hell in Greek mythology, am I right?

Thanks again, for your reviews, Mac!

#152. Posted by: Christina at March 30, 2006 8:18 PM

Hey, first posting, finally something to contribute:

One of the latin quotes reads: "Hic sunt dracones" - "Here be dragons". This phrase is written on a map of Middle Earth in either the Lord of the Rings or the Hobbit...I can't remember which.

This leads me to believe it was drawn by one of the people stationed at the Swan for two reasons: One, as stated by someone already, this person has intimate knowledge of the Dharma projects and two, they are scribbling quotes from scripture and literature in Latin - both signs of someone who has been locked up for a long time and has started to come undone. Perhaps the map itself was a long work in progress and as teh artist's sanity deteriorated, so too did the information put onto the map.

Finally, the fact that there was a supply drop tells me that the island is still being actively monitored from somewhere else: Even if the process is automated, someone, a live person, still has to load the supplies, fly the plane, and deliver the drop.

Thanks for everyone's ideas, I don't find any of them 'stupid' or insignicant' - the whole thing just enriches the process.

#153. Posted by: scar at March 30, 2006 8:19 PM

JoePike said: "I still don't see how they are going to rationalize how connected the Lostaways lives off of the island are. Some of it might be mere coincidence (like Locke and Nadia this week) but there's WAY too much for it ALL to be coincidence. I just don't see how it's going to ever make sense, and how they got all these people- who's lives are so unknowingly connected, on a single plane at the same time. There are just so many mitigating factors. Like there's no way anyone could have predicted that Sun was going to choose to get on the plane instead of leaving Jin at the airport like she had planned for so long."

Yes, especially since a few of them almost didn't make the plane...not only Sun, but Hurley, and Locke...anyone else?

#154. Posted by: Christina at March 30, 2006 8:20 PM

I agree that the alleged connection between Rose, Locke and Jin has to do with the island "healing" them. I think that fits with how the hint is qualified (i.e., whether the connection extends to Jin depends on how you interpret last week's episode - do you believe he was "healed" while being on the island, or do you believe Sun got pregnant in some other way?).

#155. Posted by: D at March 30, 2006 8:28 PM

I can see Gale and Rose being related. First, after the swerve that Rose’s hubby was white. Second, nothing happens on the island for nothing. It makes sense that the departed Mr. Gale would have a connection to someone on the island and I think it’s Rose.

PS – You’re right about Locke’s Dad being the CONMAN Christina

#156. Posted by: starserpent at March 30, 2006 8:32 PM

Mark - ALL THINGS SERVE THE BEAM! The map does look like the Dark Tower/beam/stations as described by Roland to Eddie and Susan. Now, if the stations on the island had the same names as the stations in Roland's world, that would be interesting. The DT is a portal to all parallel worlds and let's not forget about the 'Rose'. There are some other parallels between Lost and the DT series, but I don't think there are enough that the two are related. Too bad, huh. I do remember reading a link that paralleled two, but I don't remember where it was.

As for Locke, after seeing how greatful he was to HG the perpetrator for not deserting him like everyone else in his past had, I think he has placed too much trust in him and it will be his downfall, assuming he has a downfall that is. HG is playing Locke better than Mozart would play a baby grand piano. Throughout the whole series, Locke has never been phased even slightly by what anyone says to him, he just takes it in stride. But, one sentence from HG and Locke goes into an emotional meltdown. Hmmmm...

#157. Posted by: curtis at March 30, 2006 8:37 PM

To add to Christinas comment Charlie almost didnt make it on the plane cause he woke up after a FIX of heroin.

#158. Posted by: Cameron at March 30, 2006 8:40 PM

About the tatoo, the four characters on Jack's arm are in fact Chinese characters, not Thai, which looks more like Arabic.

#159. Posted by: Endo at March 30, 2006 8:41 PM

To me, I thought it was pretty obvious that Locke was crawling into the hatch a minute late as the timer was switching to 107... from 108.

I just wonder how long it will be until we find out how Locke became paralyzed before the plane crash. I figure that's when he we tell Jack about his recent condition. WHY HASN'T HE TOLD ANYBODY OTHER THAN THE LATE BOONE?!?!?!?!?!

#160. Posted by: Middies at March 30, 2006 9:07 PM

Did anyone see My Name is Earl tonight? Walt (forgot the actor's name) is a guest star...doing a pretty good job too, I must say. Buuuut, if the LOST writers plan to ever bring him back, they are going to have an awfully tough time explaining how he suddenly aged because he seriously looks like he is about 15 right now on this show....I wonder how the heck they plan to do this?

Another note...as far as Cerberus goes, yes he is the guard of the gates of hell in Greek mythology, Christina. Here is some info on him:

Cerberus

The most dangerous labor of all was the twelfth and final one. Eurystheus ordered Hercules to go to the Underworld and kidnap the beast called Cerberus (or Kerberos). Eurystheus must have been sure Hercules would never succeed at this impossible task!

The ancient Greeks believed that after a person died, his or her spirit went to the world below and dwelled for eternity in the depths of the earth. The Underworld was the kingdom of Hades, also called Pluto, and his wife, Persephone. Depending on how a person lived his or her life, they might or might not experience never-ending punishment in Hades. All souls, whether good or bad, were destined for the kingdom of Hades.

found at: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/cerberus.html

I wonder what the heck this too has to do with the map....if anything....I am beginning to think our boy Desmond had some serious issues...

#161. Posted by: Vikki at March 30, 2006 9:18 PM

Hey guys, I think we got a nice shot of the characters on Jack's arm during the poker scene. Has anyone tried to identify them? I can check on my pvr (its what we call tivo in canada) but I wouldn't know where to even look for a comparison.

db

#162. Posted by: db at March 30, 2006 9:19 PM

Another question I have...

About the panic door opening again and freeing Locke....was this a result of the food drop going successfully or did Wanna-Be-HG know how to get it retract? B/c if we agree that he knew the numbers a little too well, who's to say that he didn't possess other knowledge about the hatch, like how to free Locke? Maybe Wanna-Be-HG turned on the blue ligts for some other reason without realizing it would reveal the map to Locke...

#163. Posted by: Vikki at March 30, 2006 9:21 PM

I would really like to know wats up wit those DAMN NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean somthing is really strange with them!!!!!! They keep popping up everywere ever since that First EP. with Hurleys back story. They came up in the map on the door and on the safe deposit box from Lockes father. (Thanks to Mac for pointing that out) And if you pay attention in the Season finale for Season #1 when they show hurley getting up late and hes rushing around those damn numbers keep poopin up everywere!!! Also i would just like to add there has to be some reason for these certain people to be on this certain island. I mean Locke running into NADIA!! Of all the people in the whole friggin worlsd it was her. And all of them have to have something in common that we havent seen yet. If u think u have any idea plz post it. O and 1 more thing Sawyer running into Jacks Fathe just before he died in that bar in Seas. #1. SEE WAT I MEAN!!! :)

#164. Posted by: Cam at March 30, 2006 9:21 PM

"2: Maybe I missed something back in Confidence man, and if I did, will someone please help me out...as to the theory about Locke's father being Saywer's father: I thought that Sawyer's dad was the one that was conned (by the original Sawyer), NOT the conman. Locke's dad WAS the conman. Also, I don't see how the timeline fits. Sawyer's dad killed himself in 1976, but Locke's dad was around after that (in Locke's flashback, it didn't look like the 70's, take the silver car, for example.) Again, if I'm missing something, please tell me!!"

just because the island sawyers dad died in the 70s doesn't discount the fact that lockes dad was involved, he was an old man, it doesn't have to mean that his 'retirement scam' was the one that was involved with island sawyers dad.

and btw people, you have to remember, EVERYTHING we are shown, is shown for a reason

lockes dad/sawyer = both conmen?
rose/gale connection?

if we are shown it, it was for a reason, everything down to book titles and record titles that we only see on tv for fractions of a second is shown for a reason.

#165. Posted by: alex at March 30, 2006 9:30 PM

Another great show. Aside from the advancement of the island mythology (lots of juicy stuff in this episode!), I really love the Locke backstory, how he's such a loser. He gets caught in a huge lie by Leela, and he reponds by proposing?!? Idiot.

I also think that while it is fun for us to examine every little detail of the map and learn as much as we can about the island and/or Dharma, only some of the map is really going to end up being significant to the overall story. I agree with hookedonlost, that they will probably find a way to get another look at the map, at which time the really significant part of it will be fairly presented to the general audience.

Mac, your review mentioned that someone else from Lost is from Wayzata. I must have missed that. To whom were you referring?

#166. Posted by: Bees at March 30, 2006 9:40 PM

"just because the island sawyers dad died in the 70s doesn't discount the fact that lockes dad was involved, he was an old man, it doesn't have to mean that his 'retirement scam' was the one that was involved with island sawyers dad."
Sorry if you misunderstood, but thats not what I meant. I meant Locke's Dad could not be Sawyers dad as everyone is saying, because, as you pointed out, Lockes dad was past middle-aged, and Sawyers dad died (killed himself) in 1976, in his 30's.
Maybe you're saying that Lockes dad was INVOLVED with Sawyers dad? That's more likely. But Sawyers dad was conned, not the con-man, so maybe Lockes father was the con-man to Sawyers dad (i.e. the "original" Sawyer, who Sawyer (James Ford) is looking for, to kill.

#167. Posted by: Christina at March 30, 2006 9:54 PM

"I would really like to know wats up wit those DAMN NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean somthing is really strange with them!!!!!! They keep popping up everywere ever since that First EP. with Hurleys back story. They came up in the map on the door and on the safe deposit box from Lockes father. (Thanks to Mac for pointing that out) And if you pay attention in the Season finale for Season #1 when they show hurley getting up late and hes rushing around those damn numbers keep poopin up everywere!!! Also i would just like to add there has to be some reason for these certain people to be on this certain island. I mean Locke running into NADIA!! Of all the people in the whole friggin worlsd it was her. And all of them have to have something in common that we havent seen yet. If u think u have any idea plz post it. O and 1 more thing Sawyer running into Jacks Fathe just before he died in that bar in Seas. #1. SEE WAT I MEAN!!! :)"

Cam, no offense, but do you watch this show alot? If you have watched all of season 1 and 2 and are on here with the same determination the rest of us have, you should know that EVERY's backstory connects to someone else, has something to do with dharma, all the numbers amoung other things are thrown in front of us all the time.

nothing is coincidence, ever.

#168. Posted by: alex at March 30, 2006 9:55 PM

someone already caught this: malcolm david kelley, aka walt lloyd, was just on my name is earl and looking a lot older, what will the producers of lost do with him now? kudos vikki.

#169. Posted by: maglock at March 30, 2006 9:55 PM

This whole Sawyer/Locke thing is getting confusing couse #1Thers to many sawyers #2 Come on that is just stupid. Its also getting pretty boring

#170. Posted by: Cam at March 30, 2006 10:00 PM

Bees -- The Wayzata stuff was just a joke. I figured that for such a random place to be mentioned it *had* to be someone's hometown ;)

#171. Posted by: mac at March 30, 2006 10:07 PM

I see wat ur saying and yes i saw all of Seas. 1 And i starded watching Seas.2 about half way through. (Still trying to get the ones i missed on iTunes.) But wat i mean is if there all somehow related (not as blood) htere has to be some reason for them all to be all on this Island. And as every person who watches the show knows this is no ordinary island. If u ask me the island some how brain washed the first people who came on this island. Then those people brain washed the next people and so forth. And i think somewone said earlier about the island having a magnetic pull to it as how the food got there as if it pulled it from far away and if u think about it it makes sense i mean if the island could be alive somehow and then the magnetic pull coould have pulled the Flight 815,This so called Hot Air Ballon,The French Chicks Boat,Maybe even as far back as the Black Rock who knows!! I mean it is possible the is land could of been covered by more water. Man my fingers need a break!!

#172. Posted by: Cam at March 30, 2006 10:16 PM

What's a TIVO HD? (:
Great comments.
Still confused about why Claire and Kate did not inform them about the other hatch. Esp since a medical hatch. Could have needed supplies. Would think Jack would like to know.

I think Sun in pg by the tutor.

#173. Posted by: Suzan at March 30, 2006 10:24 PM

"And i think somewone said earlier about the island having a magnetic pull to it as how the food got there as if it pulled it from far away and if u think about it it makes sense i mean if the island could be alive somehow and then the magnetic pull coould have pulled the Flight 815,This so called Hot Air Ballon,The French Chicks Boat,Maybe even as far back as the Black Rock who knows"

cam, the reason i ask is because, your ideas have been not only put forward, but pretty much agreed upon for some time now, as far back as last season.

#174. Posted by: alex at March 30, 2006 10:25 PM

O Mac could u look at my last post and and respond to it so i could know wat u think of my idea.

#175. Posted by: Cam at March 30, 2006 10:29 PM

If Locke was so freaked out about not being able to reset the computer, why didn't he just climb through the vent he sent fake Henry Gale through and reset it himself?

#176. Posted by: slore at March 30, 2006 11:32 PM

Ok. First of all, just because "Henry Gale" lied about his identity doesnt mean hes an Other. Hell, if I was in a shady situation, being kept captive by strangers with trust issues, I'd give a false name as well. Maybe the guy in the grave was his travel buddy, and he just didnt want his full story out there just in case? Just a thought....things are not always what they seem on this show, so now that we are convinced hes an Other, maybe he wont be...

Also, the Lost Diaries are interesting. It says that the guy in the hatch is the writer's brother...it doesn't say "Henry Gale" is his brother. So maybe the facke Henry Gale is Bernard's brother? Once again, just a thought...

I dont know how I feel about the lockdown and the dropoff...I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I didnt find this particular episode to be very interesting. So Kate is attracted to Jack AGAIN? They have a close call with the numbers AGAIN? Sawyer acts like an idiot AGAIN? Absolutely no previous questions are answered AGAIN? And only new questions are raised AGAIN? I need something new...some new englightenment that really makes me go back to previous episodes and disect them again.

Anyways, I'm excited about the remainding episodes of the season. I hope some information is gathered about Walt/Michael...maybe even randomly.

#177. Posted by: HurleyIsHot at March 30, 2006 11:41 PM

Thanks Mac for all your effort. Great, great review as usual! What a great epi,lots to analyze - it will keep us busy until next Wednesday!

I think as long as they push the button the food will come. Seems the food drop is a remote and automatic function. Perhaps there is some signal each time the code is entered to alert the "powers in charge" that food supplies need to continue. Maybe the balloon is part of the supply drop?

Remember the escape hatch in the medical bunker? Are all the hatches are connected by underground tunnels and that is the shaded part of the map? It also appears that Swan has extra buildings/compartments or is Swan the most investigated. The question is why hide the map on the blast door? Seems who ever was drawing it was still looking for answers. I wonder how it compares to Rousseau's map? Is there a link to her map anywhere so we can compare?

This is the best thing on television!

#178. Posted by: Lesley at March 31, 2006 12:00 AM

I thought the actor who plays Henry Gale (Michael Emerson)looked familiar, and that I may have seen him before in an X-Files episode. A visit to imdb.com confirmed that he was in 2002's "Sunshine Days". As I scanned his filmography I saw that he was also in a 2004 short film titled "The Lost Season" playing a character named "Henery Gale". Too fun!

#179. Posted by: gail at March 31, 2006 12:36 AM

Cam -- I think at this point virtually any theory could be possible, and electromagnetism is something that was featured in the Dharma orientation film, so I it certainly seems plausible.

I've seen attempts at a unified theory, and while I admire the effort, I really believe we haven't seen enough to truly understand how all of this wackiness works.

#180. Posted by: mac at March 31, 2006 1:10 AM

The math on the right hand side of the map is at least somewhat related to Maxwell's equations. They don't look quite right from what I remember from my physics undergrad days, but the B with an arrow over it represents the magnetic field. In their full form Maxwell's equations explain how electricity and magnetism are related.

#181. Posted by: Matt at March 31, 2006 1:22 AM

I don't think that Kate has already told Jack about the Medical Hatch. Otherwise Jack would be very happy to have a suitable hatch of his own and then open up a "Miracle Clinic".

you're amazing, Mac.

#182. Posted by: v@z at March 31, 2006 1:36 AM

I'm a graduate physicist, and I've been looking at the map. There's an equation there that related an H vector (arrow over the top) to what looks like a capital M over G sub p, and then the derivative with respect to k of little g vector. Honestly, after 9 years of physics, I don't recognize that equation. It's vectorially correct (vector=vector), and H can refer to a magnetic field, but otherwise...no dice.

There's another equation relating B (also magnetic field, or related field) to mu_nought/4*pi integral of some derivatives and things like that. This looks like a rewriting of the Biot-Savart Law (http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Biot-SavartLaw.html) applied to a bulk material ('M' can stand for 'magnetization' which is a statistical bulk property of materials).

Basically, it looks like the writers found some info on magnetic fields and put it in The Map. I'm not sure how accurate it is, since they seemed to eschew conventional notation when writing them, but, you can read it how you will. It could just be a measure of how much research they did. Or I just might not recognize the formulae (not my field really).

On a few other notes:
*Locke and Sawyer now definitely connected.
*Food drop definitely related to the lockdown.
*I think the lockdown was meant to keep people IN during the food drop, implying that they don't want contact between on and off island populations.
*The incessant backstory connections are going to be hard to clean up. Supports the "they're all part of a psychological experiment" hypothesis.
*Still not sure about Henry Gale. Lying? Yes. Other? Not so sure.

#183. Posted by: h at March 31, 2006 2:27 AM

IF there is a magnetic pull it would have to be very powerful to pull in planes, hotair balloons, parachuted food, & boats. This means that most metal objects would be adhered to the ground, wouldn't it (ie guns)? I just tested my husband's guns & the magnetic sticks. Theories anyone?

#184. Posted by: Judi at March 31, 2006 3:03 AM

Hi Mac,

First time I post, but since your reviews are always amazing, I needed to do it!

Am I the only to think that the actor playing Henry Gale has a voice that sounds EXACTLY like Keving Spacey's??? That's why he is so creepy and charismatic and manipulative and suave and scary all at the same time!
Anyone agrees?

#185. Posted by: Cesco at March 31, 2006 4:00 AM

Although I loved the episode, I kind of share HurleysHot's frustration with the show. The writers do a VERY good job at raising intriguing new questions, but rarely do we get an answer about anything. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and trusting that they will answer all of the questions before the series ends, but I have a problem with spending all season raising questions without answering many. Makes me worry that we're heading down a Twin Peaks path here. I thought this week we'd at least find out why Locke was paralyzed, but no. Giving us at least some minor answers every few episodes would make all of our obsessive viewing a little more rewarding!

Nevertheless, this show has shot to the top of the Best TV Shows In The History Of Humankind list. Now I just hope the writers will work a little harder to keep it there.

#186. Posted by: KG at March 31, 2006 6:34 AM

Maglock....thanks for providing Malcolm David Kelly's name....

Cesco...I agree...I think he even looks a bit like Kevin Spacey....

#187. Posted by: vikki at March 31, 2006 7:15 AM

Wouldn't the magnetic forces only change compass readings? The ballon clearly crashed but is not made of metal. The electromagnetic force is one of the four main forces and all others are derived from them, so once a compass is screwed up what drags the transports into the island? Does DHARMA somehow have a handle on controlling gravity around the island by manipulating the forces of nature, etc.? It still bothers me that so many folks from the plane survived without injury.

I agree that Henry Gale 2 is lying but he des not seem like an Other. Former bunker resident maybe? Back for food... or back for vaccine because his buddy died? Did he write the map and needed to refer to it? Did he look at it while off camera? And why did he lie about his name? Maybe we can compare his map and the bunker drawings...

I love the tech part of this show but I know a lot of folks who love to watch but are not interested in digging deeper. (They think we are nuts.) It is what makes the show great. Something for everyone...

#188. Posted by: Lesley at March 31, 2006 7:32 AM

I can tell you what happened to Locke's legs - those thugs his 'father' stole $700K from come after him with a baseball bat once they realize he lied to them.

#189. Posted by: JD at March 31, 2006 8:53 AM

Somehow someone got confused into thinking Locke's father=Sawyer's father. Not true. The first person to post something about it was Phil Zoop:

"Crazy episode!!
Can we now assume that the real Sawyer is Locke's dad???"

How this got misinterpreted by so many, I don't know. Once (and hopefully for all) let's acknowledge that we know Locke's father is NOT Sawyer's father, but MIGHT be the REAL 'Sawyer' that our island Sawyer took his name from.

I think they showed the closeup of the computer with the cursor blinking because the fake Henry just used it to communicate with his Other buddies. Locke saw it and may now suspect something is up. Fake Henry's willingness to stay with Locke was a further ploy to try to gain Locke's and the group's trust. Combined with Sayid and Co. finding the balloon, fake Henry thought they'd have to believe him and let him assimilate into the group. He just didn't count on them digging up the grave.

Fake Henry is definitely an Other...the preview shows Sayid (with gun pointed) asking him a question about the Others, and fake Henry responds with something like "They'll kill me if I tell". To me that's confirmation that he is an Other who was trying to infiltrate the group.

I agree that the lockdown is somehow related to the food drop, but I don't necessarily think it has anything to do with the numbers needing to be typed in to the computer. The fact that food drops are still happening leads me to believe that somebody is happy that the Lostaways are still entering the numbers and want them to continue to do it indefinitely.

#190. Posted by: JoePike at March 31, 2006 9:29 AM

I haven't read all the comments, so if someone else mentioned this, I'm sorry.

Regarding the Locke-Sawyer connection...in THE LONG CON, isn't Locke's Dad the one who meets Sawyer and demands the money Sawyer is trying to con from his girlfriend??

#191. Posted by: Annette at March 31, 2006 10:22 AM

The Locke's father/Sawyer's father suggestion is defintely incorrect. Sawyer's biological father killed himself when he found out that Sawyer's biological mother was having an affair with a con-man "named" Sawyer.

There's a possibliity that the con-man who ripped Sawyer's biological family apart could be Locke's dad -- that's where the potential connection lies.

Sawyer's "bio" dad, as far as we know, offed himself in the '70s.

#192. Posted by: mac at March 31, 2006 10:48 AM

Any chance we could start calling the "island Sawyer" by his true name "James" to avoid confusion for awhile until this is resolved?

Love the reviews Mac.
Any chance you could get a different pic for Hurley?
That one you use just makes him look too weird, and since I am a "big" man myself, I am kind of a Hurley fan. =)
Too bad it looks like they may "off" the big guy next episode, but that just seems too obvious.

Keep up the great work.

#193. Posted by: Zeppo at March 31, 2006 11:09 AM

I have a question about the magnet theory. If the magnet is strong enough to pull down the plane, then why didn't the fuselage and engines continue to be dragged toward the source? And if it got turned off then why did Jack's key still react? Is there a residual attraction for super-magnets?

#194. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 31, 2006 11:36 AM

Just want to say, THANK YOU MAC for the in depth reviews each episode - it really does help all UK Lost addicts who can't watch the second season on TV yet (although i can through download! :p)

Does anyone else think that Henry Gale (the fake) did something to the computer when he was away from Locke?? Hmm...

#195. Posted by: Vicki at March 31, 2006 11:41 AM

Oh i also have another theory as i'm sat here thinking about LOST. If the supplies are dropped off by balloon, then maybe Henry Gale (real + fake) were part of Dharma dropping off more supplies or checking up on something. Or am i totally losing it??

#196. Posted by: Vicki at March 31, 2006 11:51 AM

Does anyone else think that Henry Gale (the fake) did something to the computer when he was away from Locke?? Hmm...

I believe he may have and/or did something else because he was gone for 1 minute after the clock reset. That is the reason they shows us the clock changing from 108 to 107 so we would know the fake Henery Gale had time to do something.

#197. Posted by: mad about lost at March 31, 2006 11:57 AM

Okay, what about this?

Supposedly someone (either automated or otherwise) knows that someone is still resetting the clock and by that fact, that those in the hatch are in need of supplies to be airlifted/
ballooned/whatever into the island correct?

So following that train of thought, and the idea that the Others are / were a part of the Dharma Initiative, the idea that they have access to, knowledge of and know how with other hatches, and the idea that they have to eat as well, doesn't that mean that they probably also have a clock counting down that needs to be reset so they can communicate to the DI that they still are in need of supply drops?

If fake HG is indeed an Other, he likely already knows of this lockdown situation and the computer and the code, correct? Who knows what else poser Gale could have done on the computer, in the hatch while they were apart.

If this is not the case and the Others don't have a countdown timer, then there likely is some other surveillance (to at least a small degree) that lets Dharma headquarters know that someone is occupying the hatches and need to be resupplied.

#198. Posted by: BELost at March 31, 2006 12:23 PM

"Am I the only to think that the actor playing Henry Gale has a voice that sounds EXACTLY like Keving Spacey's???"
No, I've thought that since day one. In fact, I think the writers/directors might be doing it intentionally. Why? Well, I think there's a connection between HG's character on Lost and Kevin Spacey's character in Usual Suspects. Both were extremely frail, fragile-looking weaklings who appeared to ramble on a lot about stupid stuff, but then turned out to be the brains behind the entire operation. I believe HG knows more about the hatch/Dharma than anyone suspects. Perhaps he did do something to make the blast doors go up. For all we know, he could've changed the code!

#199. Posted by: Trinity at March 31, 2006 12:42 PM

The Duf--Well, after all the Wizard did arrive in Oz in a hot air baloon, you know. Coincidence, or no? The Wizard of Oz is one of my all time favorite books/movies so when I heard the name Henry Gale, I immediately thought of Dorothy's Uncle Henry and the Wizard's hot air balloon landing in a fantastic place that may or may not be real. Of course, the Wizard got a much better reception than Henry Gale is getting.

#200. Posted by: Raenell Silcox at March 31, 2006 12:47 PM

P.S. Even thought Henry was lying, his story about his wife's illness was pretty accurate as far as other victims' accounts go (i.e. Rousseau's team). Obviously, he knows about the alleged illness on the island somehow. I believe it's merely a scare tactic to keep the hatch dwellers from fleeing the dharma project. Rousseau's team may have caught some airborne tropical virus by coincidence. Yet, HG knows about it.

#201. Posted by: Trinity at March 31, 2006 12:49 PM

I loved this episode! I believe the centre question mark is the main base of the research facility the base of the others. This explains why they remain hidden they are in an underground base! The smaller bases where probably designed as laboratory for different experiments of which they may have lost control (the infection & the electromagnetism) This means the others are well supplied and organised. The smoke beast (Cerberus?) may be advanced nanotech robots or perhaps paranormal? Now if I spent million on an island research facility I would not want to abandon it. Also if I wanted to experiment on people to find out how they would react in an �desert island� scenario what better way than to use the islands magnetic field probably enhanced with technology to bring down a plane and control its crash to ensure minimum casualties.
The counter may be a countdown for a device that was to be used by the others but because of the incident had to be aborted and the reset has to now be inputted every 108 minutes to stop the final activation?

#202. Posted by: James at March 31, 2006 12:50 PM

Brich / ACE,

you were right the first time. It does say MDG, not MGD as translated on the hatchonline website. I like the magnus de groot explanation...
check out the rossnewberry site for comparison with the other posted versions of the map; see one of the earliest post for link. it is basically a high res reverse image of exactly what Kelvin/whoever wrote on the blast door.

#203. Posted by: BELost at March 31, 2006 12:51 PM

I had a question about next weeks previews. Hurley
is in the jungle and see a man dressed in a robe and pajamas. I throught this was the man he got the numbers from but watched it serveral times but don't think it is him now. He does look familiar. Did anyone else notice this?

#204. Posted by: mad about lost at March 31, 2006 1:10 PM

slore: That's an interesting point. Why in the world did Locke waste his time raising the blast door and risk life and limb trying to slide under it when he could have just climed through the vent to begin with? Possibly he's tried in the past and is simply too big to fit, but c'mon! I'm having trouble suspending my disbelief on that one.

Could someone take screen shots of fake Henry and Locke, reference something with a known height in the background and calculate their height, weight and astrological signs? That'd be great... KIDDING!

#205. Posted by: t-code-j at March 31, 2006 1:12 PM

the writer in the diary said that they just learned that their brother was in the hatch. Now, this doesn't mean that they saw the person, just maybe heard that a "Henry Gale" was being held in the hatch. So maybe the real Henry Gale in the license was indeed a brother to someone on the island and that's who the writer is referring to, not the "fake" Henry Gale.

#206. Posted by: Jason at March 31, 2006 1:17 PM

BELost...I'm liking your theory about the food drop/Others connection.

I'm curious...I don't think the button-pusher (we really need to come up with a "job title" for the person(s) whose responsibility it is to push that damn execute button)is part of the same group as the Others. Obviously, prior button-pushers have taken notes and mapped out the Others' World so they weren't given knowledge of it before they assumed the button-pusher position. So...

* Is the button-pusher the proverbial "rat-in-the-cage" being put into an environment to be researched. Are the Others the Researchers?

* Is the button-pusher merely a stooge for the Others? The others are running all of these research projects (psychology, parasychology, zoology, meterology...we all remember the Orientation video) and the lowly little data-entry dude(tte) pushes the button so that they all get to eat. Is the food normally divided up between the Others and the Button-Pusher or does the Button-Pusher get it all? Before 815 crashed, did the Others come and go through the Swan Hatch. Don't think so...Desmond acted as if he hadn't seen anyone in years. Maybe the Others get their own food drops.

* Or maybe the Others are some sort of band of the DI gone awry. Maybe their operating by themselves now. They've had it with Dharma - they like the island life and they just want to live their days on the island without any interference (don't cross that line!).

#207. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 31, 2006 1:27 PM

Also...

"check out the rossnewberry site". Can you post a link to that?

#208. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 31, 2006 1:31 PM

I'm not convinced that faux HG is an Other.

I don't think anybody has answered the question - *why* did he come back & help Locke, when he could have escaped? Or, when he could've taken that crow bar and knocked it upside Locke's head.

Thoughts?

#209. Posted by: Mike at March 31, 2006 1:33 PM

Mike -

I'm personally absolutely convinced that HG is an Other, and that's a complete 180 for me.

I originally thought that he wasn't one, and it was the writers way of bringing the topic of prejudices into discussion. I thought they (writers) were trying to show that the losties have now been put into a situation that's caused them to think "because he's not one of us (good people) he MSUT be one of THEM". Aren't there any shades of grey in between those two. Maybe he was an Other, but didn't like baby-stealing or night time camp raids, and left the group. Maybe he was sent as a Button-Pusher replacement and decided desk work wasn't his fortay. Who knows...

But, because of the previews for next weeks episode in which he says "He'll kill me if I tell you", to which Sayid replies "I'll kill you if you don't tell me" (or something very similar to that - don't quote me directly), I believe he's an Other. I believe the HE being referred to is none other than the HE Zeke referred to when he b**ch-slapped Ethan for not getting the list for HIM.

#210. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 31, 2006 1:41 PM

the next episode is called 'Dave' dave could be a nickname for hugo's brother diego. diego runs into a string of bad luck in the first season episode entitled 'Numbers." i also want to thank jack for beating sawyer in the card game, and i want to thnak hugo for tackling sawyer in next week's episode

#211. Posted by: snoop dawg at March 31, 2006 1:48 PM

Hey :P I'm not sure if henry gale is an other! but i don't think he escaped because he would have run in to everyone else and would have been killed for sure! Also i think if he is an other i think he would be very interested to find out who exactly these people living on "the others island" are!!

jane

#212. Posted by: Jane at March 31, 2006 1:52 PM

Mike:

I don't think "Henry" tried to escape because he is there as a mole to complete the "list" or otherwise spy on the Losties. He wants to gain their trust but is failing big time.
Trinity:
The comparison between Henry and Kevin Spacey in Usual Suspects is intriguing. I agree that Henry is likely to be an important character, not just a random other.

The delivery of food and the countdown button are not related, in my opinion. Whoever and however the experiments were set up, something(s) gone terribly wrong, and people are getting killed right and left. If the button is not pushed, some disaster will occur, but we do not know what.

#213. Posted by: Cinci at March 31, 2006 1:55 PM

on the orientation film in the beginning it says the swan and at the bottom it says'STATION 3 OF 6" if you think about it we have already seen the interior of 3 of the 6 stations and, thnaks to some people's close examinations, we know there is another station called the FLAME. MY RATING FOR LOCKDOWN ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN A 14. AND NEXT WEEKS EPISODE I WILL GIVE IT A 9 DEPENDING ON HOW IT TURNS OUT.

#214. Posted by: jer at March 31, 2006 1:55 PM

Anybody else going to miss Ole Henry Gale wannabe? Weren't we informed that he will be on Lost for 6 episodes? If so, his tenure here will be drawing to a close, and I for one will miss him. The actor is fabulous, and second only to Terry O'Quinn (IMHO). I'll certainly miss his intriguing mind games and intellectual banter when he's gone.

Who'da thunk it, huh? LOL

#215. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 31, 2006 2:11 PM

the orientation film in the beginning shows the swan logo and and at the bottom of the screen says STATION 3 OF 6. we have already seen the interior of 3 of the 6 stations and know that there is another station called the FLAME. (just a side note here, i think the >:[] thing is cool)my grandparents think the OTHERS are ALIENS, but I think the OTHERS are dharma initiative scientists gone wack after the 'INCIDENT' and maybe dharma deserted them. i also think the OTHERS and maybe even the guys in charge of dharma made OCEANIC FLIGHT 815 crash. in the orientation film, the narrator says dharma was created so that scientists and free thinkers from around the globe could study in, what was the first thing the guy said, oh yeah, meteorology. another 'wack' theory i have is that there is a station that is out in the water, where the other end of cable that Sayid found goes. there could also be a turbine-like engine that powers the swan and the other stations.

#216. Posted by: jer at March 31, 2006 2:18 PM

MAC--
I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND MY FRIENDS AND MY TEACHERS (YES I HAVE TEACHERS WHO WATCH LOST) TO GO ON THIS WEBSITE
--JER

#217. Posted by: jer at March 31, 2006 2:20 PM

Okay, can someone *pleease* clear this up for me:

Faux HG's balloon - *same* or *different* balloon than the one that Jack/Kate stumbled upon that had all the Dharma food in it?

Thanks.

#218. Posted by: Mike at March 31, 2006 2:23 PM

Mike -
I assume it has to be different, since it was so close to the hatch. Faux Henry's balloon was "at least a day's walk away". We've all seen people come and go from the hatch and back to the beach like it's a simple stroll - at least in terms of life in the jungle.

#219. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 31, 2006 2:34 PM

Can someone with Tivo check the packages on the supply drop again? I thought the box that was shown had the Dharma Swan symbol on it, not just the generic Dharma symbol. If so, then it's likely the drop was specifically to resupply this hatch. We could then assume the other hatches get their own supply drops. I don't know how that really helps, but there you go.

Also, now that we've all seen many versions of The Map, doesn't there seem to be different types of handwriting on it? Could the map have been drawn by more than one person? Maybe Kelvin and Desmond? Also, the tone of the messages on the map seem to suggest that the writer is: 1- not to happy about being where he is, and 2- not fully informed about the whole island operation, but trying to garner as much information as possible to learn about it. Again, I don't know if this really helps either, but there it is.

#220. Posted by: Bees at March 31, 2006 2:36 PM

Completely different. The smiley faced one was a hot air balloon. The food was not attached to a balloon, but a parachute for a semi-soft landing (and didn't look yellow like the hot air balloon.)

#221. Posted by: JoePike at March 31, 2006 2:36 PM

Mike -

DIFFERENT is the answer.

1. Sayid, AL and Charlie all are surprised to see it when they run into Jack and Kate at it after just returning on their long hike from the other ballon.

2. No smiley face.

3. HG's was up in the trees, this one was on the ground.

4. This one had a beacon flashing, HG's didn't.

5. This one was on the walk from the beach to the hatch (remember Jack was going back to the hatch after his infamous poker game), but AL, Sayid and Charlie had to walk so far to HG's ballon that they had to make it an overnight trip.

#222. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 31, 2006 2:41 PM

SMKG --

here is the link as it was posted by Kalico above http://elfurl.com/h6jin

#223. Posted by: BELost at March 31, 2006 2:55 PM

D'oh! I'm very sorry.

#224. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at March 31, 2006 3:31 PM

Love this show. But let's get real. There is just too much stuff going on. Story lines that start and don't ever continue, interconnected random characters, it's just too wierd. I hope i'm wrong but I think this is going to turn out to be somebody's ( Locke ) dream/nightmare.
TonyC

#225. Posted by: Tony at March 31, 2006 3:35 PM

Wouldn't someone have noticed a plane dropping off the supplies?

#226. Posted by: Pete at March 31, 2006 3:36 PM

What if they used a STEALTH plane? Those are relatively quiet! Or they could have used a massive hang-glider. Or maybe the supplies weren't dropped at all... Maybe they were planted there by Dharma/Others who then activated the beacon and made it look like it was dropped from the sky. Or maybe the Dharmans have perfected the technology to just make the supplies 'appear' out of thin air - like a Star Trek transporter. Or maybe the ground beneath the food is really a trap door and every three months the food is delivered from underground...but made to look like it came from the sky!

We're all wacky. It's Friday, I'm tired, and am officially done typing my BS theories. Funny if one of them came true though!

#227. Posted by: JoePike at March 31, 2006 3:55 PM

Joe Pike -

I love it! LMAO!

#228. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 31, 2006 4:02 PM

Ok, let me clear something up for everyone. There are two sets of previews, one I believe is Canadian and the other is for the US. One is about hurley the other is about henry. If you don't want to know what the henry one is stop reading here.............................


Otherwise, It is a quick scene with Henry all tied up saying you don't know what they will do to me. Jack or someone says something along the line of who are you talking about the bearded guy, and henry says who... oh he is no one compared to the guy who will kill me...

something like that.


db

#229. Posted by: db at March 31, 2006 4:58 PM

hi i would like to say great reviews. i used to live in colorado but since i moved to london i havent seen it but they are great reviews. but how could sayid AL and charlie have found jack and kate, explained everyhting to them,and got back to the hatch b4 the alarm went off again???

#230. Posted by: hayley at March 31, 2006 5:36 PM

I think the Rev 4.2.02 scribbled on the map refers to Revelation, chapter 4. Ch.4 refers to the scroll in God's right hand with the seven seals (seven stations/hatches). Maybe I'm just reaching or giving the writers too much credit. Revelation is also known as the Apocalypse. John the Apostle is credited as the author. "I, John, your brother and your partner in tribulation . . . was in the island which called Patmos, for the word of God" hmmmmmmmm?

#231. Posted by: Maxlife at March 31, 2006 5:37 PM

I love making connections to this show and Lord of the Flies...here is another one:

About the comments of the food drop....stealth plane and the fact that it was night would prevent others from seeing it. In LOTF, one of the three scariest symbols on the island that represent the fear of the unknown is the lord himself (that Simon sees), the "beast from water" that the boy with the mulberry mark tells the other boys about (he claims it came out of the water to get him) and the "beast from air", which is an object on the side of a cliff near the fire that the boys are terrified of because they can not figure out what it is....however, it is only the dead body of a soldier that parachuted from the air and landed, unseen, near them....interesting...

And JER, definitely recommend this site to your teachers...I am one myself!

#232. Posted by: Vikki at March 31, 2006 7:08 PM

did you notice that Henry Gale's address is 815? like the numbers... 4 8 15 16 23 42!! there is 8 and 15 together. also do you think that the fake henry is an other since he helped out locke? if he is an other, then they do have some compassion. and has this been answered yet (i havent been caught up w/the second season)...WHO ARE THE OTHERS AND WHERE DO THEY COME FROM?

#233. Posted by: Jenni at March 31, 2006 8:05 PM

this was an awesome recap!! thanks for that, i needed it! i was totally lost. but i was searching through some sites, and i found a clear map of what lock saw on the metal door which his leg was stuck under. it has it all translated into english. here you go, if you want to check it out:

http://www.thetailsection.com/uploaded_images/cleanwall-707484.jpg

keep up the good work!!

#234. Posted by: nicolle at March 31, 2006 8:19 PM

hey hookedonlost, even though Australia is 16 hours ahead of the US, the dates and days fall on the same numbers in both countries, so if it is friday the 31st here, it was also friday the 31st there. but since they are ahead 16 hours, they see the friday the 31st 16 hours before we see it. just thought would let you know for future reference.

#235. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 31, 2006 8:44 PM

i hope they don't kill henry, They didn't kill That woman who use to be in jail for killing people. The reason why is because she changed. And if henry is a "other" which i hope he is not then he has changed and should noot be killed.

#236. Posted by: tyler at March 31, 2006 9:27 PM

i just realized that i posted something someone had already cleared way earlier so my apologiez to those who don't like that.

#237. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at March 31, 2006 9:44 PM

correction, there are 6 hatches. the seventh has been scribbled out.

#238. Posted by: Luma at March 31, 2006 11:39 PM

Hey guys I was just looking around and I noticed that www.thetailsection.com posts both the canadian and american previews for each episode.


db

#239. Posted by: db at April 1, 2006 12:20 AM

OMG, I just thought this was sooo strange. Maybe it's just coincidence, but I think it really shows Lost's impact on the world. You MUST check out the story at this URL:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060331/od_nm/crime_statues_dc_2

#240. Posted by: Nathan at April 1, 2006 12:23 AM

For those of us that don't have Tivo or HD, this site has high definition screen captures (from 400 to over 1,000 pictures per episode).

http://lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine

Just click on "Lost Screen Captures", then "Season One" or "Season Two", then select which episode. You'll get 40 thumbnail pics per page where you can jump to any page and also enlarge any picture. It's pretty cool. Like watching a slide show of the episode without the dialog.

#241. Posted by: Ardie at April 1, 2006 12:42 AM

Two points of interest:

1) For those of you interested in dates of when lost is happening you may wish to refer to the hatch door:

System wide failure of Dharmatel Intranet 4.08.00, 2.15.01, 1.06.05

These potential dates imply the show is present day.

2) Everyone keeps saying Gale memorized the numbers awful easily. First off, even though Gale said he entered the numbers, so what? Maybe he didn't and nothing happened! Maybe Gale knew the numbers before he got to the island...

#242. Posted by: Bryan at April 1, 2006 12:47 AM

On the map, just above the "Staff" hatch, there is a note that reads "estimated travel time incompatible with 108; do not attempt to survey." So it seems to me that there is SOMETHING that is supposed to be happening in the 108 minutes between the pushes of the button, but our Losties aren't doing it, and don't even know that they should be. Whatever it is, the people running this whole thing that's going on on this island decided not to survey a site because it was not compatible with 108. I assume that's a time frame -- maybe I'm wrong.

Failure to hit the "execute" button every 108 minutes could result in the food drop, but Desmond, when he was asked about where the food came from, did not respond. Therefore, it seems to me that he knew about the food drops, but not about what would happen if the button wasn't pushed, so the two events do not seem to be related to me. However it does appear that the "lockdown" does directly correlate to the food drop. I guess we'll only have to wait another 6-8 months for another food drop to find out if the hatch gets locked down again (as indicated on the map as well...)

#243. Posted by: Stocky at April 1, 2006 1:59 AM

For all you guys talking about the "Mole", here's something.

If you go to emri.perception.net,(you know the wierd LOST computer) type in "Who Are You?" and a response will come from someone known as the M O L E.

#244. Posted by: murphdogg at April 1, 2006 2:12 AM

To correct myself, now that I am realizing all of the notes on the blast door were scribed by the inhabitant of the hatch (possibly Kelvin or Desmond, but maybe someone before them, which is what I think since Desmond didn't seem to know anything other than to push the button or the world would end), and that it was that person that wrote the "not compatible with 108" on the door. Meaning, there would be no way for him to go that far on the island and get back in time to push the button before the timer counted all the way down.

#245. Posted by: Stocky at April 1, 2006 2:17 AM

wow that was a very very good episode, without watching yet (it hasn't shown here yet, we're only up to 5 now) now i can picture everything that's going on. i can't wait until this episode comes up. i now have so many questions about the hatch. the food drop is very interesting. why they didn't hear an engine? well, "henry gale" was in a balloon right? maybe it was a balloon drop (which then took off afterward)? which makes henry gale and the fake henry gale others - others who are in contact with the outside world. but then something went wrong, like the balloon malfunctioned and couldn't get it to sail and there was a fight and the real henry gale was murdered. but there are still flaws in my theory. why does the other other pretend to be henry gale? why couldn't anyone see the balloon? would a balloon really be able to hold that much stuff?

i hope locke's legs would be alright. he's been paralysed for so long, now the island brought his legs back, i hope he doesn't lose them again.
by the way, speaking about that, (let's go back to the previous episode about sun/jin) if the island could heal locke, could it also somehow have healed jin and now he CAN give babies, and the conception happened on the island? i know the timeline is kind of conflicting.

what do you guys think?

#246. Posted by: yes at April 1, 2006 9:34 AM

As more before me already stated, I believe the entering of the code, the Dharma supplies, the fact that all sorts of balloons (Henry Gale's), ships (like Rousseau's) and planes (like the herion transport and of course our Oceanic flight 815) are all related.

When the code is not entered, it may signal the guys from Dharma to drop off new supplies. Now, dropping supplies the size we saw, is something you cannot do from an altitude of more than about 1000 feet, this even apart from the fact it'd be close to impossible to land such a parachute on such a small island from high altitude. Since the supplies were so big, the plane must have been large as well, making it hard to believe nobody heard a big plane flying that low. That is of course IF the plane flew over the island at all. What if during lockdown (which is initiated (also) by Dharma, not (only) by the hatch) a hughe magnet or something kicks in, attracting new supplies that are dropped of quite far away, AND while doing so, also attracts any ship/airplane/balloon that's close to the island, either by attracting the whole thing itself, or by disrupting their navigation equipment. The fact that the famous code is exactly same as the coordinates of some location in the Pacific on the route Sydney-LA, makes this a credible theory I think. Any thoughts on this?

#247. Posted by: LostFan at April 1, 2006 10:56 AM

mac u da bomb i have something in "the whole truth" there was something on the back of the do not disturb door hanging thing when sun opened the door in the motel room she took it of ond on the back {i froze at the right moment] it said "108 minute" that is weird.... again mac u cool

#248. Posted by: rick at April 1, 2006 11:08 AM

I just wanted to point out that the lockdown happened before the button needed to be pushed, and why in the world would someone's need for supplies change over 108 minutes? It just doesn't make sense, this being said, doesn't mean that it isn't true.

also 'yes' you stated that Locke has been without his legs for a very ylong time. do you know how long? does anyone?

db

#249. Posted by: db at April 1, 2006 11:15 AM

The majority thought on the connection between Locke and Sawyer is that Locke's dad, who we've discovered to be a bit of a con man, is the original Sawyer, who conned our new Sawyers parents. Mac alluded to this theory earlier in his summary. (Sidenote: Cooper specifically used the word "con" ... I wonder if he spent any time in Tennessee during the '70s?).

#250. Posted by: Jakphooey at April 1, 2006 12:17 PM

If you have seen the Hanso Dharma Initiative propaganda film, the names of all six stations are revealed. There is "The Swan," "The Staff," "The Arrow" (all of which we have seen), "The Pearl," "The Flame," and "The Goblet."

#251. Posted by: Jakphooey at April 1, 2006 12:32 PM

I just cannot believe the connection between the 108 timer and the supplies drop off we saw the other night.

I just think it's too big of a thing for Desmond not to mention to Jack -- "Oh, and hey, if you guys run out of the food, don't enter the numbers one time and you'll get some food dropped. But, otherwise, it's essential that you make sure you enter those numebrs every 108 minutes." It just doesn't seem likely to me.

#252. Posted by: schiano at April 1, 2006 12:39 PM

Anyone else think that maybe "Helen" might be in on it with Locke's father? I just got that feeling. Also, wasn't the other lady he bought a ticket for to Syndey named Helen too?

#253. Posted by: Amy at April 1, 2006 2:51 PM

Concerning Locke’s back story, a couple of things. First, wasn’t his father a rich man who lived in a big house behind a gate with a guardhouse and guard? So why was his father still doing cons and risking his life from angry victims in the process? Perhaps he was hooked on the thrill of the game and not doing it so much for the money.

Second, I always had the feeling that Helen had been hired by his father to try to keep Locke away from him or from going postal on him. I mean, she is a rather attractive woman (BTW she also co-starred in the TV sit-com “Seven Rules for Dating my Teenage Daughter”) and after they meet at that anger management group (in Season 2, Episode 3 “Orientation”), she really comes on to him saying how she likes bald guys. Her being at that meeting (she was the discussion leader) could have been just an elaborate setup for them to meet. So I think she was being paid to “play house” with Locke and when Locke’s father had to move away, her job was over and she went back to her real job of being one of those 1-900 number sex talk operators (reading the transcript from Season 1, Episode 4 “Walkabout”, Locke has bought 2 tickets to Australia and is asking a woman named Helen (who “knows him better than anyone”) over the phone to join him but she responds that she’s not allowed to meet with customers and if they keep talking she will have to charge him for another hour at $89.95/hour). It seems to fit as she was always demanding that Locke leave his father alone (even following him there one night and saying it’s either him or me), and then she discovers the obituary. I bet there wasn’t an obituary (who could have written it?) and she was just setting Locke up for him to do the job of getting the cash out of the lock box for his father.

#254. Posted by: Ardie at April 1, 2006 3:27 PM

Did you math savvy people catch on the map (under “The Flame”) the numbers under the square root symbols?

Sq Root of 16 = 4; Sq Root of 64 = 8; Sq Root of 225 = 15; the first 3 numbers of the sequence.

#255. Posted by: Ardie at April 1, 2006 4:17 PM

And since there was some questioning above about when the plane crash occurred, here’s a picture of Kate’s mug shot that the marshal had faxed to him which I believe he showed to the authorities in Australia and the fax timestamp at the top has the date 07-16-04 so the crash must have been not long after July 16, 2004 which is about the time the first episode aired.

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/katemugshot.jpg

There is also a picture there of some pill bottles with a date that looks like 1/05/04. I think this was the medication that Jack’s father had just before his death in Australia, but I’m not sure.

#256. Posted by: Ardie at April 1, 2006 4:33 PM

Something no one else has brought up yet (at least I don't think so) is exactly how the map got to be drawn on the door? If those blast doors are only down for a few minutes during lockdown then go back up into the wall, then how did the hatch dwellers have the time to draw a hugely intricate, detailed map all over it? Did they crawl up into the ventilation system?
And, about the "estimated travel time incompatible with 108," I think that means it would take longer than 108 minutes to get there and back so it's impossible to go there and still press the button in time.

#257. Posted by: Trinity at April 1, 2006 4:57 PM

About the "not compatible with 108" thing. That's why there has to be TWO people in the Hatch. One person to stay there and input the code when needed, and the other one to go and explore that area(why I don't know).

#258. Posted by: murphdogg at April 1, 2006 5:56 PM

ok well you mentioned that the dharma vid said there were six hatches, and you're right. however one of the seven "hatches" in the drawing is scribbled out so that there are only six plus the question mark. also the building on the bottom represents the building they are in. the building that is over 2 buildings left is the represents medical facility, and the building on the very top is the place where the few people from the back side of the plane stayed and they found the bible/other piece of the orientation film. of course all of these are assumptions based around the fact that each place has its own symbol (ie: swan, arrow)

#259. Posted by: sean at April 1, 2006 8:05 PM

Okay, now i'm beginning to think that maybe the "He" that the bearded guy was talking about and HG is referencing to on next week's episode is Locke's Dad. He seems evil enough to be a major player in this whole thing. Maybe his cons keep financing the experiments. He also seems like someone who would kill and kidnap people without even flinching.

#260. Posted by: cmonroe at April 1, 2006 10:39 PM

Recently I have watched this episode from the iTunes and I have not seen the mention of my father. It was on this program? Where thoughts the creators to this felt program to speak about search of my father?

#261. Posted by: Enrico at April 1, 2006 10:59 PM

I'm assuming rose is the real henry gale's brother, this would seem to fit with the diary postings. Has this already been pointed out?

#262. Posted by: aij at April 1, 2006 11:23 PM

I just noticed that It was flight 815 and Faux Henry had a address of 815 Walnut Ridge Road.

Too many loose ends!

#263. Posted by: Dasaro at April 2, 2006 12:06 AM

locke got palralyed 4 years before the crash

#264. Posted by: fds at April 2, 2006 12:49 AM

that was for db

#265. Posted by: fds at April 2, 2006 12:49 AM

For those of you who were wondering how Locke becomes paralized, I think this last episode implies how. The thugs beat the crap out of him, leaving him paralized. I think that's a reasonable assumption.

#266. Posted by: Bryan A at April 2, 2006 4:12 AM

Just a note to KG,

You have said that Hurly is the least "real" person to you, well, I must say that he is the most real to me. Hurley is my brother incarnate. I seriously asked him if he knew anyone that had anything to do with this show the first time I saw it.

And yes, my brother would call Sun (or anyone else) "dude".

#267. Posted by: chim at April 2, 2006 9:18 AM

It sort of cuts down the possibilities for why the blast doors come down when there's a vent that allows you to bypass them. And, maybe kelvin left that map for someone to find right before he died. Because just after he died, Desmond would have had to make sure he was outside the blast door to use the computer everytime there was a lock down and he would have never seen the map once Kelvin was gone. And it will be interesting to see, if any of the bottles of vaccine or whatever will be in the food drop. I have a lot of other ideas, but I lose them by the time I read all the posts. Great Blog.

#268. Posted by: Christie at April 2, 2006 9:42 AM

Here's my Henry theroy(or non-Henry theroy as the case may be).He was purposly caught by the french women so that he could break apart the passangers of Oceanic Flight 815 from the inside. I mean, how else could they cpture an Other using sting and a net? Henry's plan is working on them too. We have Sayid, who wouldn't spit on Henry if he was on fire(and if Henry catches on fire, we know who lit it), then we have the majority of the people, who are undecided about Henry, and finally we have Locke, who will do whatever he can to protect Henry "NO MATTER WHAT". The way I see it, a Civil War is about to break out, all because Henry says a few words.
Henry also killed dead Henry, or how else would fake Henry know all the stuff about dead Henry. All the info was on his driver's lisence, and if fake Henry saw the driver's licence, we can assume who killed real Henry.This also shows prior planning.
P.S. Please ignore spelling errors.

#269. Posted by: Billie Joe at April 2, 2006 12:57 PM

As usual - great recap! I remember a flash back from the 1st season that showed Locke getting hit by a car and showing him in a hospital! This show is so great because it has so much going on all the time. I believe the lock down and food delivery is connected and the fake Henry is an other. Maybe the Others are past button pushers that run off like Desmond did - half psychotic. Still believe there is more the the French chicks story than what we are being told. Can't wait till Wed!

#270. Posted by: dusty at April 2, 2006 3:27 PM

It was Michael not Locke that was hit by the car.

#271. Posted by: gotspeed13 at April 2, 2006 4:53 PM

I don't know if this has been posted before or means anything but this is a little freaky, the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42 all add up to 108! Which is exactly how many minutes someone has to push that button! Coinsidence much? I dont think so...
I think there is more to the numbers AND the button!

#272. Posted by: Puggy at April 2, 2006 5:31 PM

You think? WOW!

#273. Posted by: SnakeJake at April 2, 2006 5:43 PM

does everyone still have access to the hanso foundation or dharma initiative websites? i've never been able to get onto those sites...looks like someone just posted a suggestion yesterday to go to one of these sites. anyone have any info or am i alone in this?

#274. Posted by: jade at April 2, 2006 6:36 PM

Please accept my apologies . I have a question, that I cannot answer, and there has been no help from other sites. LOCKE-DOWN does not have a good example of it, so it IS off this weeks topic.

My question is : Throughout this series Lost, when our losties are faced with a choice , or are at a pivotal moment in there life , they are siiting between or are what ive been calling 'braced' between two lamps , usually identical. They are allways between them , and its not allways direct, such as in s1 the when carlie is at the Chrismas tree, as opposed to jack when talking to the patients daughter before the operation. Any help here would help, a link or address etc. I am sure this has been discussed but as of yet no luck.( There are many examples of this). Thanks

#275. Posted by: neil at April 2, 2006 6:41 PM

Thanks for your great review, mac. As this episode has already been discussed thoroughly, I have only few things to add: wild speculations without any proof :)

- Amy's and Ardie's speculations make sense to me: Helen could actually be working with Locke's father.
- I still think Henry Gale is an Other, but I'm pretty sure now that he's not HIM. Maybe he wanted to escape from the island in a baloon (maybe together with the real Henry Gale). Maybe the fake Henry Gale was really trapped by accident in Rousseaus trap and not by the Others' or by his own intention at all (then it's possible that THEY will eliminate him sooner or later). It would also make sense to me that placing fake Henry Gale into Rousseau's trap was some kind of punishment by the Others. This would also explain why he thinks that "he's dead already no matter what he does...".
- while thinking about who actually could be HIM, I came up with some more speculations. Somehow it makes sense to me that Jack's (or maybe Locke's) father could be HIM (I think it was already discussed somewhere that striking many Losties have 'bad' and some even have 'evil' fathers...perhaps many of them are actually Dharma employees...). In one of the first episodes Jack saw his father standing in the jungle. There must be a reason for this and the obvious explanation for me is that he's still alive. If he's really still alive, the only explanation would be that he's at least one of the Dharma employees, so he could actually be HIM.
- a similar speculation would also make sense: Locke's father (who also seems to be the real Sawyer...) would also make an excellent "HIM", because he's obviously evil and connected to more than one Lostie.

Somehow I can't get rid of the feeling that we have already seen HIM in one of these backstories...

#276. Posted by: Margot at April 2, 2006 7:08 PM

I find it weird that everyone has forgotten about Walt. What happened to him? Is he still alive?

#277. Posted by: Addict to lost at April 2, 2006 7:52 PM

Walt will come back, or we will at least know what his deal is by the end of this season. I know it seems like forever but it was only a few episodes ago that Michael ran off to look for him. By the season finale we will know where they both are, until then you can watch last weeks episode of My Name is Earl for Walt being afraid of the dark.

#278. Posted by: Dustin at April 2, 2006 10:57 PM

So, I looked at the drivers liscense pretty carefully. It Said that it expired in 2003. Our story is present day right? So This guy must have been there a while. A long while. I dont know much about drivers lisecnses etc. But i do know that you dont have to get a new one that often. Also when Kate and Jack dug up the air marshally guy he was pretty gross and decomposed. That was after barely a month too. (Wow have we been watching lost that long? Boone was still alive! So was shannon!) Think about how this guy must have been if he had been there for years! Sayid must have been pretty angry at this other to dig up the dead body and search it for identification.

#279. Posted by: Marissa at April 2, 2006 11:40 PM

Food for thought. Perhaps the others and Henry Gale knew that someone like Sayyid, or Jack WOULD dig up the grave and 'discover' that he is lying. Perhaps it is all still a red herring because his plans are completely independent of whether or not they know his true identity.

Additionally, perhaps the reason they hear no plane - is there isn't one. Perhaps the food is dropped by the others themselves - once again to continue leading them on this path which the propaganda of the bunker has lead them to believe.

I think the group's ENTIRE REALITY is being manipulated by the island and the others. French chick knows this. This is why she reinforced to Sayyid - for a LONG TIME he will lie. She knows the true story is layers of an onion...

#280. Posted by: shira at April 3, 2006 2:07 AM

Looking at the Map, why is the Swan the only outpost that extends past the big "X" towards the center. It also has a little ? there.

#281. Posted by: Jeff at April 3, 2006 2:47 AM

yeah hearing no plane was strange, living beside an airport i know even if it was a small plane it would have to be very high up ,which makes dropping accuracy very low. Hurley could have known about the drops, he was caught eating a stash of food by sawyer,whos to say it wasnt from a drop ,is he an other,i seem to recall the lost makers went specifically looking for a fat guy, is there significance in this. Whats going on with the fathers

1. Shannon was in the hospital, jack walked by and rose was sitting In the waiting room, maybe linked by jacks father, shannons father died in the same hospital jacks father worked.

2. Kates father ,linked to kate, kates mum served cofee at cafe sawyer used, kates father talked with sayid.

3. Lockes father linked to lockie ,lockie worked for hurleys box company, locke was in sayids ex girlfriends house, lockies father involved In a con,many believed linked to sawyer.

Perhaps ther minds are becoming merged and molded by the island, otherwise we have a situation where alot of people on the flight were in ustralia for the same reason.

#282. Posted by: liam at April 3, 2006 8:00 AM

Did anyone catch what was written on the side of the bag that Locke's dad was using to carry the money in? It had something on it and I believe it started with on O. Could it have been an Oceanic bag?

#283. Posted by: mad about lost at April 3, 2006 10:59 AM

I know this is going back to last week... but I can't get out of my mind the 'structure' that Charlie and Sayid were building last episode. What is it? Did they mention something about a dining room table? Is it a house then? And since when did Charlie and Sayid become best buds? And is it just me or does Charlie seem like he's cleaning up a little and back to his old self? I think this is getting overlooked by everyone, but it seems a largescale project, alot like the raft from seaon one.

#284. Posted by: em at April 3, 2006 11:40 AM

I just heard a couple of spoilers. I don't know if they are true or not but if you don't want to see them, stop reading now.
1. The leader of the others DOES turn out to be Jack's father and he is also Locke's brother.
2. Locke and Charlie will be the two characters who are killed off and they will be done in by HG.
I had to share these because they made me so excited about the rest of the season. I hope no-one is mad.

#285. Posted by: El at April 3, 2006 2:41 PM

Don't know your source, but I say don't believe everything you read/hear. Sounds pretty bogus to me. Here's a direct quote from Mac's review of the White Rabbit from Season I:

"A flashback shows Jack identifying his father in a Sydney morgue and then later making a desperate plea with an airline attendant to let him bring his dead Daddy home."

Jack's father is dead dead dead. Seeing him on the island was a hallucination, though the empty coffin is still very curious. Anyway, I still say the 'spoiler' is bogus.

#286. Posted by: JoePike at April 3, 2006 3:09 PM

Trinity, you bring up a very good point about how the map actually was drawn on the wall - the blast door was only down for a few minutes, and that map is very detailed and intricate. Supposing that the blast doors only come down when the hatch is in "Lockdown" mode, someone would have to draw the map or add the comments very quickly. I personally think that there is a way for the doors to come down some other way (eg, the computer) or for some other reason. Thoughts, anyone?

#287. Posted by: dknight at April 3, 2006 3:18 PM

Aside from the drop containing food, what else might be in there? Maybe some type of tracking devices or something in the food itself? Dharma/Others may even be trying to poison the losties.

I also would not be shocked if we get to see Kelvin. I just don't think the gut is really dead.

#288. Posted by: PowerCat at April 3, 2006 3:22 PM

JoePike,
El's spoilers come from the eonline.com website - their LOST writer Kristen does a lot of the spoilers that make it across the Web.

El only listed a couple of the ones that Kristen put out there this week - WARNING THOUGH, some of them are huge, and even I (who happens to like spoilers) was bummed I read them. If you're into BIG spoilers though, go check her latest column out.

#289. Posted by: Shannon at April 3, 2006 3:29 PM

I'm not really big into spoilers, but I do feel like killing off certain major characters in Lost could be a mistake...even if it moves the story forward somewhat. And it makes me feel like the time spent watching some of the details of the backstories was a waste. For instance, who really cares now if Boone and Shannon did it since they're both DEAD!

#290. Posted by: JoePike at April 3, 2006 3:59 PM

JoePike,

Instead of reading the blog at the bottom of the reviews, you should check out the forum and post there, if you haven't already. I skim through this part only once or twice a week, but the forum has some great discussion, and not many spoilers. If there are spoilers, they are **usually** labeled.

I hear you about killing Boone and Shannon off - after their deaths, it seems like their lives were only very small instruments in the overall scheme of things. All Shannon did was piss people off, and all Boone did that was truly useful was drop a flashlight. (I'm SURE they did more than that, but I would rather hear about the people we have left.)

#291. Posted by: Shannon at April 3, 2006 4:06 PM

Regarding the spoilers listed by El, if you go to the E website and read Kristin's article, she says "April Fool's" after a list of spoilers, so all that business about HG killing Locke and Charlie and about Jack's dad being the head of the others, etc. is really just a joke.

#292. Posted by: AmyK at April 3, 2006 4:13 PM

Shannon, about your spoilers from Kristin at eonline.com....Notice the date it was posted?
Also notice how she says April Fools?
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2006/060401.html

#293. Posted by: Zeppo at April 3, 2006 4:13 PM

NO, I didn't notice - I'm so glad they're fake!! WHAT A DRAG that would have been...

#294. Posted by: Shannon at April 3, 2006 4:15 PM

To reply to a topic somewhere earlier in the post's; Locke and Michael both were hit by cars in flashbacks... but i think Locke's was at the end of the episode and they didn't show what happened next. I assumed that's when he became paralyzed... but episode 3 this season cleared that up for me. I am anxious to know, however.

And i'm sure we'll get the french chick's flashback sometime throughout this series. Just may be a couple seasons yet. And my guess would be that the season finale is when we will find Walt and learn all about where he's been... Just a guess.

#295. Posted by: Middies at April 3, 2006 4:18 PM

Hey a couple of random thoughts from this weeks episode

I really think Locks father is the Original Sawyer

The Guido Brothers will be tied into Locke getting paralyzed, and I don’t think we have seen the last of them, Helen or Locke’s father. Someone above thought that Locke’s father and Helen were in on a con together. I don’t think so.

The ‘Helen’ Locke was talking to in ‘Walkabout’ was not the same ‘Helen’ that we saw in this episode. The one on the phone was just a 1-900 operator playing the role of ‘Helen’ for her customer.

The blast doors are tied into the new supplies arriving.

Hence if you remember from the episode when Desmond was telling Jack how he ended up on the island, when the person in the Hatch found Desmond’s after the boat crashed, and brought him inside the Hatch, maybe that coincided with a parachute drop??

Once again great job Mac, thanks for the updates.

#296. Posted by: Kalico at April 3, 2006 5:14 PM

Dknight - I agree with you and trinity on the fact that it probably took quite awhile to draw the map on the blast door. My theory is that it was drawn during a long lockdown that occurred when whatever the incident was that created the original quarantine happened.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, the countdown was instituted after an 'incident' occurred to prevent another one like it from happening again, right? I don't think the food drop has anything to do with the countdown or the blast doors. I think it's merely coincidence that the food drop and the blast door drop happened close to one another. It doesn't make sense to me that you would lock down the place where the supplies will be stored and from the person or persons for whom they are intended.

#297. Posted by: curtis at April 3, 2006 6:39 PM

Has it ever been established how Locke knows Sawyer's real name is James??

If not, something to do with Locke's dad perhaps??

JB

#298. Posted by: JB at April 3, 2006 6:55 PM

The spoilers were from a coworker and I didn't ask her source but if they were an April Fool's joke, oh well, it's not going to affect the show for me.
As far as characters being killed off, I am glad that I saw Shannon's back story before she was killed because I had been thinking she was a major b***h. After seeing her life in flash backs, I understood more why she acted the way she did. I didn't feel it was a waste.

#299. Posted by: El at April 3, 2006 7:32 PM

Hi,
Uh, I just bought season 1 of lost and am watching Episode 4, Lock is talking to woman named Helen on the phone, and it turns out to be a 1-900 number or something, she says that she has to charge him another $89 to keep talking, it's obviously not Helen, right? Locke's already in the wheelchair... coincidence of names? I'm a bit confused,

#300. Posted by: kelley at April 3, 2006 8:56 PM

Locke did some exploring when the audio system started going haywire. The counters were down to 47 minutes. This is about 2 minutes before the doors dropped. The doors were raised at the 0 mark. The doors were down for 45 minutes. That gives someone a goodly amount of time to draw a map, providing they turn on special lighting.

The producers are very good about using the same actors in flashbacks and in current time. I believe Kevin Tighe (Locke's father) has not been credited with any other parts, so he may not be part of Dharma a someone suggested.

#301. Posted by: onelostdude at April 3, 2006 10:36 PM

onelostdude,
I can see your point, but I think the only reason the doors went up when they did is because pseudo GH did something to lift them after he entered the numbers to begin the countdown, not because he entered them. Just my opinion. Tell me what you think.

#302. Posted by: curtis at April 3, 2006 10:53 PM

dknight - there is also a chance that HG did something to raise the doors... it is quite possible that the door is usually down for a longer time... although i don't know how that would fit into the 108 min.

JB - I believe that Locke knows that his name is James from the roster that hurley found last season.

#303. Posted by: db at April 3, 2006 11:42 PM

Maybe the Others can control the doors from where they are. If they knew the food drop was coming, they may have closed the doors to keep our losties from getting to it first. Then HG, who could be a defector of the others, knew how to raise the doors. Or not?

#304. Posted by: JKS at April 4, 2006 1:56 AM

Im upset that this upcoming episode will concentrate solely on Hurley and maybe lilly and we wont find out any new info on HG.

I think JB and DB are in cahoots

#305. Posted by: Phil Zoop at April 4, 2006 2:39 AM

re: kelley

I think Locke has probably lost the real Helen at this point and is trying to replace her with the voice on the 800 #.

I can just see it,... " can I call you Helen "?

He is pretty pathetic mentally at this point and has probably hurt himself (hence the wheelchair) grieving over Peg Bundy.

..." we're gonna need a bigger boat "

#306. Posted by: thinng at April 4, 2006 3:36 AM

how can there be fake spoilers? i don't understand what you mean. and what is an april's fools. there was nothing on lost about. what are you even talking about? was it just someone who said that for fun with no source?

#307. Posted by: confused... at April 4, 2006 7:55 AM

Has no-one else seen the "I AM HERE" circled at the bottom left of the blast door drawing,just outside the OCTAGON?Its quite clear

#308. Posted by: Andrew at April 4, 2006 8:36 AM

Hey Phil, the preview showed plenty to do with HG in the upcoming 'Hurley' episode. I'm looking forward to it as I like Hurley's character a lot and feel he has been sorely underused lately.

Hey Confused...April Fool's Day is April 1 in the U.S., and it's a day of practical jokes and fake postings. It's the perfect day to post fake spoilers. Hope you're not confused anymore.

I was just thinking...why do they ever have to kill anyone off? (Aside from an actor wanting to leave like Shannon...) I think there are many other ways to create shock or drama or surprise than by killing major characters off. It's only good or proper if it really does move the storyline forward in some significant way.

#309. Posted by: JoePike at April 4, 2006 8:48 AM

ANDREW,

The I AM HERE clearly makes reference to the person that drew the map. Correct me if I am wrong, but the hatch that they are in now is The Swan. So if someone drew that map up in the SWAN then of course they would write that (kev or desmond)

#310. Posted by: Phil Zoop at April 4, 2006 9:02 AM

Phil Zoop.... Please try to read most of the posts. There is a discussion above about canadian and american previews and a link where you can see them both.

and JB may be my brother from another mother.

db

#311. Posted by: db at April 4, 2006 10:31 AM

Spoilers suck, speculation is great. Can't we ban the spoilers and if you must, list it as theories...?


oh,... and we ARE gonna need a bigger boat

#312. Posted by: thinng at April 4, 2006 3:43 PM

JB & DB - If Locke knows Sawyer's real name from looking at the roster, then why didn�t Hurley identify Sawyer as "not on the roster", which was how Ethan was discovered? Are we to assume that Sawyer explained the alias to Hurley? Or is it because there was both a James Ford and a Sawyer on the plane, and one died or is unaccounted for?

#313. Posted by: Anonymous at April 4, 2006 8:28 PM

On the hidden poster on the wall directly beneath "the Flame" station the numbers square root 16, square root 64 and square root 225 are written. these numbers are equal to 4, 8, and 15 the first 3 in the sequence of mysterious numbers.

#314. Posted by: Ryan Davis at April 4, 2006 8:47 PM

...after seeing imposter Henry Gail's face when the blast doors come down, I tend to think that he is NOT an "other". More of an "others" captive and plant by the others.

He has a terrified look of confusion on him and he is in the armory where no one can see him ...acting.


..."bigger boat"

#315. Posted by: thinng at April 4, 2006 9:45 PM

these (if true) are major revelations. Zeke (aka mr friendly), and other boat guy (uh.. boat other guy?) where on the plane (flight 815).
http://elfurl.com/ubifj

#316. Posted by: mtncbn at April 4, 2006 11:22 PM

On the DI training film he said it takes 2 people to opperate each hacth. Once the countdown starts for the food drop, one gets ready to get the food, going out into an infected world, and the other waits as the blasts doors come down. The person inside uses that time to add to the map, after a while I believe some one mentioned 45 min. Which gives the person retieveing the food ample time to bring in the food. THis process could have happened many times during the years spent there.
The map seems to show how over time they are trying to figure out info about the other hatches since there was to be no communiction betweeen the hatches, acording to the film.
I also believe fake HG was on some sort of recon getting info for the others. Because they to haven't had communication with other hatchs . Thier purpose may be entirly different from swans. But I also believe all the hatches are connected somehow. Each one in the dark as to what the other is doing but each one doing a separate part of a larger experiment, that went wrong. THe map shows them trying to figure out what went wrong.
If HG got himself purposfuly caught to get into the hatch, that sounds right, because the lostaways would not have known not to let others in from other hatches. Why would the others send in spies, to find out what they dont know.

#317. Posted by: Feinberg at April 5, 2006 12:40 AM

ohhh i get it. ugh what a horrible day that could be for those who are affected by practical jokes. in contrast there's never anything like that here in asia. nobody does that and if they do, it is nasty and people get angry and sometimes throw out. what a huge difference there in the US. they are so opposite every since I learn about the U.S. and many western culture. most things no in Asia is yes in Western. usually i don't watch western shows but i watch because of sun and jin. if they not there i won't watch.

#318. Posted by: notconfusednow at April 5, 2006 2:09 AM

Ok i've just looked at oceanic airlines website and its changed.
We have two blinking red square dots at top centre, nothing else on screen and the name of the website has changed to a lot of numbers.
Now by my calculations if you swap the numbers for letters (a=1 b=2 etc), you get the phrase 'its time'.
Time for what? the truth? Do we see walt? Do we see kate naked? (no to that one).
Does anyone else have an idea?

I haven't been on that site for a while so it could be a april fools.

I'm in the uk and love this site even though its completley ruind season 2 for me, i just cant resist sitting here in the morning reading your review.

#319. Posted by: Dave at April 5, 2006 5:30 AM

No big revelation here, just a minor observation. Is it possible that the names of the hatches are connected with some of the characters? One is called "The Staff", which clearly connects with Ecko and his staff that he is carving. One is called "The Pearl", and Rose's husband, Bernard, was searching for a pearl for Rose b/c he forgot her b-day. Any other ideas as to how the rest of the names of hatches might link to other characters?

#320. Posted by: J-Rod at April 5, 2006 9:02 AM

has anyone else seen the henry gale /wizard of oz connection? dorothy's last name was gale and her uncle's name was henry. nothing too profound but i caught it. also the whole hot air baloon thing

#321. Posted by: snk at April 5, 2006 11:09 AM

The dad of a co-worker of mine observed that the bunker lay-out on the map looks like a cross-section of a magnetron. For an example, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetron

I hadn't noticed that anyone else had made this observation, so I thought I'd post it.

Cheers,

Matt

#322. Posted by: Matt at April 5, 2006 11:10 AM

This is so off topic for this episode but relates to tonights. Anyone else think Libby may be an other? I missed half of the 2ns season when she came on the show, have they ever shown her back story, ever show her on the plane?

#323. Posted by: Amy at April 5, 2006 11:20 AM

Hey SNK,
Not to beat a dead horse, but the Wizard of Oz connection has been discussed considerably in this comments section for previous episodes involving HG. You should check them out. Good readin'.

#324. Posted by: JoePike at April 5, 2006 12:16 PM

thinng - Spoilers suck, speculation is great. Can't we ban the spoilers and if you must, list it as theories...?

I think this is an open forum and only Mac should decide if anything should be banned. I did put a warning that I had heard a spoiler so if you didn't want to read it, you could skip to the next message.

This show has so many surprises that I take all spoilers and speculation with a grain of salt. They are all interesting but never guaranteed until the show airs.

Having said that, if I hear any more spoilers, I will keep them to myself as I wouldn't want to ruin anyone's anticipation. I was just excited and wanted to share and felt this forum was the place to do that.

#325. Posted by: El at April 5, 2006 1:17 PM

Curtis, My point was to determine about how long the doors were down. HG could have raised them or not, the jury is still out on that one, but certainly is intriguing. Matt, I like the magnetron idea...good catch on that one.

#326. Posted by: onelostdude at April 5, 2006 1:26 PM

Whenever I see a shot of the computer screen cursor, I expect to see a message - like when michael was communicating with walt. This implies the ability to communicate with other hatches - or at the very least, other people elsewhere. Why did it take so long for HG to answer locke? Could it be that he was communicating with the others? I want to see the computer screen come back to life - maybe with michael trying to contact locke... or locke trying to contact his father!

#327. Posted by: 1.618 at April 5, 2006 3:21 PM

Has anyone mentioned the following sight in the comments? http://tviv.org/Lost/Dharma_Initiative
It explains in detail the Dharma initiative, the blast door map, the symbols, etc.

#328. Posted by: Ron at April 5, 2006 4:35 PM

a dumb question...

we've been speculating on the existence/names of the six stations. but if lost is all about black/white, balance, yin/yang etc., wouldn't it make sense that there's eight stations, since the overriding symbol is an octagon? maybe one station that holds the electromagnetic source at the center, and one as an isolated observation post for scientists to survey from?

#329. Posted by: jerson at April 5, 2006 5:05 PM

Great review mac. Ive read this blog for a while but this is my first post.
I think that the faux Henry Gale is a plant for the others, but his sole reason for infiltration was to activate the supply drop.
When Clair was captured by Ethan he said that there wasent enough vaccine for her and the baby, mabey that wasent a lie and the supply drop includes vaccine as well. Its possible that Desmond had an understanding with the others to acctivate the drop, but since he left they havent been getting there drugs. Desmond was on the island for a long time it makes sence that he and the others had some kind of run in in the past.

#330. Posted by: Cory at April 5, 2006 6:58 PM

Has anyone cut and pasted the Orientation video to include the spliced segment so that it can all be watched at once?

#331. Posted by: Dave at April 5, 2006 7:21 PM

Amy- They have not shown Libby's backstory, but we got some insight into her character in earlier episodes from this season. At one point, she is talking with Hurley in the hatch and Hurley says he recognizes her from somewhere, but she said it was when he stepped on her foot while boarding the plane and then she quickly changed the subject. In another episode she claims to be a psychologist. I'm guessing she was a patient in the same mental hospital with Hurley and is now pretending to be a shrink. Maybe we'll find out tonight!

#332. Posted by: Bees at April 5, 2006 7:29 PM

Has anyone compiled a list of all the known relationships of the characters as one chart or list? I've seen this data listed for individual characters but I wonder what might be revealed in attempting to see all revealed relationships at once.

#333. Posted by: Dave at April 5, 2006 7:43 PM

I definitely agree with you confused/notconfusednow on your second post. That's why I watch too. And usually I only read (They only have lost on cable here and I don't have cable) only those episodes. But this one episode is one in few exceptions.

#334. Posted by: Ming at April 6, 2006 8:24 AM

ok, I did not see the Libby mental patient thng coming. Wow. Hey, anyone recognize Hurly's invisable friend as Sex in the City actor as Charlettes hubby?

#335. Posted by: Amy at April 6, 2006 10:13 AM

Where is the new blog? I am going through withdrawls... Love the blog Mac, can u tell?

#336. Posted by: SarahWhite at April 6, 2006 11:46 AM

wheres the new blog???

#337. Posted by: kris at April 6, 2006 5:02 PM

Not to worry! The latest review ("Dave") is here:
http://elfurl.com/jdlin

#338. Posted by: mac at April 6, 2006 5:06 PM

About the beacon:
Has it occured to any1 that maybe supplies were already there and no1 noticed... unlikely but possible?
but then again i wonder why the hatch dewllers never picked it up. And how old and stale everything would be...
P.S. WHERE IS DESMOND! With the french chick?

#339. Posted by: Chris at May 14, 2006 8:14 PM

2-17 - Lockdown

Henry is lying
The hatch shows more mystery
Jack's a poker pro

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