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Key Points from "Dave"

Season 2, Episode 18
Episode Air Date: 04/05/06

Point 1
Hurley

Libby
Hurley's story has been on a low boil for most of this season. We've seen snippets of things -- ranch dressing, tree frogs, more ranch dressing -- but the meat of the big man's story has been obscured by other things (and Other things).

But if you look carefully, the seeds of Hurley intrigue have been planted very carefully through the second season -- especially in regards to his "relationship" with the enigmatic Libby. For example, In "Fire + Water" Hurley and Libby engage in a flirt session while washing clothes in the hatch, but as they make eyes at each other, Hurley casually asks "Do I ... know you from somewhere?." On the surface, this question could be interpreted as the second worst pick-up line ever (eclipsed only by: "Are you tired? 'Cause you been runnin' through my mind all day!"). But we all know that when it comes to "Lost" nothing can be taken at face value. In this episode, little off-hand Hurley events like this one take root in the show's wider mythology.

So let's get to it.

The episode begins with a purging ... of sorts. Hurley, racked by guilt over his secret stash of Dharma food, bears his soul (and his stash) to Libby. Being a licensed therapist (or psychologist, or "analrapist," or whatever she claims to be), Libby encourages Hurley to free himself of the food's power by simply "changing." It's the same sort of self-help bullshit people pick up on Dr. Phil, but Libby's speech motivates Hurley to destroy his pantry. What ensues is an orgiastic display of projectile foodstuffs -- ranch dressing arcs high in the air, dancing on the breeze; chips and dip cover nearby foliage in Pollock-esque designs -- and throughout it all, Hurley and Libby laugh and cavort with child-like glee. When the food orgy concludes, Hurley takes a deep breath and says he feels "free." He hugs Libby. Libby hugs back ... she caresses his face ... they lean in ...

And then Jin and Sun come running through the woods! The moment is spoiled, but that, as we'll soon see, is the least of Hurley's worries. Sun excitedly explains that "they found something," which, given the past history of discoveries on this island is precisely the wrong reaction to have (seriously -- whenever anyone "finds something," wicked and unexplainable things inevitably follow -- Exhibit A: The Hatch).

Regardless, Sun and Jin are bounding through the brush with reckless abandon, so Libby and Hurley follow suit. Moments later we find out what "they found" -- the huge collection of food and supplies that was mysteriously air-dropped at the end of last episode. Oceanic survivors are crawling all over the food, filling their arms with Dharma-approved crackers and cakes and sumptuous off-brand delectables (Dharma apparently couldn't spring for the real stuff, so they've made deals with the "generic" vendors who make Goldfish and Oreo knockoffs -- is there anything more disappointing then going for an Oreo and finding nothing but "cream cookies"? No. There isn't).

Hurley is dumbfounded. Less than 30 seconds ago he had freed himself from the icy grip of Dharma edibles, but now he's once again staring into the dead eyes of the junk-food demon. But it gets worse. As the Oceanic scavengers pick at the air-drop carcass, Sawyer demands that someone -- anyone -- take control of the situation. Charlie volunteers Hurley since he so ably distributed the hatch's food supply earlier in the season (Charlie doesn't realize that Hurley "distributed" a significant percentage of that supply to his own secret stash). The suggestion is too much for Hurley. He can't handle the responsibility, nor does he have any desire to be in the presence of "little chocolate cakes with filling" (Ho-Hos) or "crunchy circus beasts" (Animal Crackers). Pressure builds in Hurley's head -- his eyes bulge and his mouth quivers. He's gonna blow!

And that's when he sees a familiar face amidst the scavenger crowd ...

A bald man wearing pajamas and a bathrobe stares back at Hurley with a devilish smile (he looks like Lex Luthor on a Sunday morning). The man isn't interested in the food or the castaways or the island around him -- his eyes are glued to Hurley. Hurley returns the man's gaze. The pressure in Hurley's head reaches a boil as he stares in disbelief at a man who is not supposed to be on this island. There's just no way ...

The bald man turns and runs into the jungle. Hurley pursues, darting through trees and jumping stumps in pursuit of The Pajama Man. He darts left ... he darts right ... he hurtles through the brush at breakneck speed and BLAM! A root snares Hurley's ankle and the ground quivers as Hurley drops like a boulder. Hurley looks up, dazed. Pajama Man is gone, but it turns out he left a little parting gift. Hurley sees a single bathroom slipper sitting amidst the tropical leaves.

Armed with a nasty old slipper and a brain full of disbelief, Hurley retreats to the beach for some alone time. Libby finds him and she immediately snaps into pseudo-therapist role, but Hurley will have none of it. He prefers to stare at the waves and ponder his plight ... and, while he's at it, hide the slipper from Libby's view so he doesn't have to explain why he's plodding around the island with gnarled footwear belonging to a freaky bald dude who appeared out of nowhere. Given the situation, his reticence is understandable.

Of course, Hurley has been down this road before -- not this exact road, mind you, but a similar mental slippery slope. You'll recall that in previous Hurley episodes ("Numbers," "Everybody Hates Hugo,") we learned that Hurley spent time in a mental institution for a heretofore undisclosed reason. Well, it's heretofore no longer ...

Cue backstory swoosh!

In this episode's backstory we see/guffaw at the following:

  • We learn that Hurley's mom had him committed to the mental hospital after he was part of an unfortunate "accident." The accident in question involved the collapse of an outdoor deck and the death of two people. Hurley tells a doctor at the institution (Dr. Brooks) that he feels responsible for the accident since the deck collapsed when he first stepped onto it. The doctor tells him: "23 people were on that deck and it was built to hold 8." He assures Hurley that he was not the cause -- that deck was going down with or without him. And, beyond that, police reports concluded that criminal negligence could be assigned to the 4th, 15th and 16th partygoers.
  • Following the accident, Hurley stopped speaking, stopped seeing his friends and stopped sleeping. He did not stop eating; a fact that leads Dr. Brooks to conclude that Hurley uses food to punish himself. Get out!
  • Hurley spends the majority of his institution time buddying around with his friend Dave. And here's where things get interesting ...
  • Early on, Hurley wanders into the hospital's gymnasium and watches as patients play basketball. It's And 1 streetball at its best -- lots of ball hogging and showboating and, uh, disorganization. Amidst the running and chasing, one man stands yelling at his fellow players, demanding that they pass or shoot or do something that at least resembles basketball. As Hurley enters, the man turns ... and that's when we see Dave, a bald-headed man in gnarly old slippers and nappy pajamas. Dave is the The Pajama Man -- Hurley's secret island stalker!
  • Clearly, Dave's island presence is the most intriguing bit -- how he got to the island and why he's there are the two big questions -- but amidst the obvious intrigue lie some odd little clues about this bald-headed guest star. For example, in the backstory segments Dave appears to be fixated on Hurley's eating. He constantly pushes Hurley to eschew diets in favor of tacos and graham crackers and cheeseburgers. In addition, Dave's patois is similar to Hurley's: He punctuates sentences with a cacophony of "Mans" and "Dudes." It's almost as though the two men share a brain ...
  • Beyond Hurley's diet, Dave's other major fascination is escape from the hospital. He fills Hurley's mind with thoughts of freedom, even encouraging Hurley not to take his prescribed dose of Clonazepam so he'll have all his faculties when Dave guides him through an escape attempt. Give him a pitchfork and a little red tail and Dave's role as the scheming devil on Hurley's shoulder would be complete.

  • Dave's devilish scheming reaches its apex one afternoon in the institution's break room. He goads and prods at Hurley, trying to convince him to join The Great Escape. But just as Dave is close to breaking Hurley down, Hurley's doctor -- Dr. Brooks -- comes into the break room holding a Polaroid camera. Dr. Brooks says he's taking shots of all the patients for a bulletin board (sponsored by Clonazepam?), and he asks Hurley and Dave to pose for a picture. Hurley scoots his chair next to Dave and drapes his arm across his buddy's shoulder. Brooks snaps the picture, then swaps a few barbed comments with Dave. With that, Brooks leaves and Hurley and Dave return to their scheming.

  • Sometime later (probably within a few days), Hurley has a private session with Dr. Brooks. For the first time since he entered the institution, Hurley discusses the deck accident. The guilt overwhelms him, but his pain immediately snaps into aggression and he lashes out at Brooks. "Dave's right about you," Hurley sneers. "You're nothing but a quack."

    Brooks grabs a folder from his desk. "I'm going to show you something that may upset you," he says calmly.

    He opens the folder and takes out a Polaroid picture. "This is that photo I took for the bulletin board," he says as he hands the picture to Hurley.

    Hurley glances at the shot ... then he looks closer. His eyes grow wide.

    "Dave isn't your friend, Hugo," Brooks says. "Because Dave doesn't exist."

    BWAH?

    The camera zooms in on the Polaroid. It shows Hurley sitting alone, his arm extended around the shoulders of a person who isn't there. (Didn't this same thing happen to Marty McFly?)

Back on the island, Hurley has decided that since he's now seeing visions of his imaginary friend in a wacked-out tropical locale, his best course of action is to medicate himself ... heavily. He visits Sawyer's Beach-Side Gun Emporium & Pharmacy and asks Sawyer if he has any Clonazepam in his medicine cabinet (Makes sense. If Sawyer stocks pregnancy tests, why wouldn't he have an ample supply of anxiety pills?). Sawyer, of course, can't resist the temptation to dig, so he questions Hurley about the medicine: What does it do? Why would he need it? Hurley says it helps calm him down, especially when he's seeing bald-headed guys wandering through the jungle in pajamas. Sawyer's gaze shifts behind Hurley and his brow crinkles. "You mean like that guy there?" he asks, pointing toward the treeline.

Hurley's face drops. He turns slowly and looks back ... but there's nothing there. Nothing at all. Sawyer cackles. "Gotcha!"

Sawyer is gonna wish he didn't do that.

The pressure builds in Hurley's head. He clenches his fists. Steam blows from his ears. He pounces like a blitzing linebacker and wraps Sawyer in his meaty arms! The two fly into Sawyer's tent. The tarp falls as Hurley rains blows on Sawyer's head and chest. Sawyer breaks free, but Hurley grabs him from under the tarp and sucks him back like Boba Fett in the Sarlacc pit. Hurley unleashes his fury on Sawyer's face, punctuating every punch with the insulting nicknames Sawyer threw at him in previous episodes. "Pork rinds!" WHAM! "Jabba!" WHACK! "Stay-Puft!" SLAM! "Lardo! Kong! Deep dish!" CRACK-BOOM-CRUNCH!

Nearby, Jin and Sun watch with bemusement as Hurley does his best Ivan Drago impersonation. Sun asks Jin if they should stop the fight, but Jin is too busy enjoying the moment to step in. Finally, as the bombardment reaches a fever pitch, Jin restrains Hurley and Sawyer scampers away, his tail firmly buried between his shaking legs. "If he dies, he dies!"

Following the title bout, Hurley believes his violence and angst can only be mitigated by self-imposed ostracism. He packs a backpack full of Dharma peanut butter and tells Libby he's moving to the abandoned cave camps to live out his days as an island hermit -- scaring island babies in the night as he sneaks into camp to raid food pantries.

Sidenote: When -- and why -- did the castaways leave the cave camp? Last time I checked, the primary water supply was near the caves. The hatch provides shelter, but only Locke and Jack (and Henry) have been living there for the last week or so. I don't understand why the caves would be abandoned in favor of the beach. Did I miss something?

So Hurley heads out to the cave camps, but he makes one pivotal mistake: He's carrying a cheap-ass backpack with crappy tensile strength. The bottom of the bag rips, sending a giant jug of Dharma peanut butter crashing to the jungle floor. Gloppy mounds of peanuty goodness splatter all around. Hurley, committed to the mission, drops the bag and kneels before the brown pile of protein. He grabs a nearby plant leaf and starts scooping massive handfulls of peanut butter into his mouth. As he gulps, he hears the sound of nearby footsteps ...

From out of the jungle emerges a man wearing only one slipper. Hurley looks up to see the smirking face of Dave.

Dave takes a seat and, with Henry-Gale-like precision, begins to cut and snarl the strings of Hurley's sanity. Dave, you see, has a message for Hurley: None of this -- the island, the plane crash, the numbers, Libby (especially Libby), none of it is real. Dave tells Hurley that every single bit of it, including the other castaways, is a figment in Hurley's bruised mind.

But it gets worse ...

Dave says Hurley never left the institution. He's still there. He's imagining all of this from his hospital bed.

Hurley protests: But what about the lottery win?

Dave is ready for this one. "What numbers did you play?" he asks.

Hurley is aghast. He played the numbers -- 4 8 15 16 23 42. And where did he learn those numbers? From Leonard, the freaky dude at the hospital who would mumble the numbers over and over again!

Unfortunately for Hurley, Dave's explanation makes sense. It ties together the mental hospital and the constant appearance of the numbers and the ridiculousness of the island (Pressing a button every 108 minutes? That has to be insane.) And, most importantly, Dave's scenario offers an answer for Libby's attraction to Hurley: a pretty woman could only fall for Hurley in a dream.

Hurley is crestfallen. His thoughts swirl in a mental maelstrom. What's real? What's fake? But then, just as he's about to crack, Dave extends his hand and offers a path to salvation ...

Dave leads Hurley through the jungle. The pair emerge on a cliff that sits high about the beach. Below, heavy surf pounds the rocky shore. Dave peers over the ledge, then looks knowingly back at Hurley. "I don't want to kill myself," Hurley says nervously.

"Who said anything about killing yourself, man?" Dave asks. "This is gonna bring you back to life. The only way for you to bust out is to tell your mind that you don't believe any of this."

Dave steps to the edge and turns his back to the raging ocean.

He smiles. "See you in another life, Hurley." (Hmm, where have I heard that phrase before?)

Dave pushes back and executes an Olympic-quality swandive. Hurley's eyes blow open as he watches his imaginary friend plummet toward the water. Dave laughs all the way down ... then slices into the waves and disappears from sight.

Dave's dive pushes Hurley to the edge (literally). He steps forward, planting his foot on a precarious rock. The wind whips and the waves crash and the music swells ... and that's when Libby appears.

Hurley, seeing Libby, puts his dive on hold. She moves toward him carefully.

"How'd you know I was here?" Hurley asks.

"Jin saw you while he was fishing ..." Libby stammers

"HA!" Hurley exclaims. "Jin doesn't speak English!"

"Sun was with him! She translated!" Libby says, dodging Hurley's trap.

Hurley takes a step closer to the cliff. Libby moves in, but Hurley warns her to stay back. He knows she's just part of his imagination; he knows she's not real.

Pain carves through Libby's face. "This isn't like you," she says.

"Like me? You don't know me!" Hurley screams.

"I was starting to," Libby says softly.

Guilt pulses through Hurley. His eyes well up with tears. "Yeah, well, did you know I'm so fat that I killed two people? And that I have an imaginary friend? ... This isn't happening! None of it! This isn't real life!"

"Why would you say that?" Libby asks.

"Because in real life," Hurley gulps, "no girl like you would ever like me. You remember when I said I knew you from somewhere? Well maybe it's because I made you up."

Orrrrr, maybe not ... (wait for it!)

Libby moves closer to Hurley and asks him an odd question: What was the man's name who broke his leg? Hurley is perplexed (and so are we -- it's not immediately clear what she's talking about). Libby continues, telling Hurley that when they crashed, Eko pulled a man from the water and Libby reset the man's leg (ahh, now it's clear -- she's talking about stuff we saw in "The Other 48 Days"). Obviously, Hurley doesn't know the answer. But Libby is on to something -- if Hurley doesn't know the answer, yet the event still happened, then Hurley isn't imagining this entire scenario. (Sidenote: It's a nice idea, but who's to say that Hurley's imagination didn't imagine the leg-breaking event and then forget about the leg-breaking event as a way to nefariously give Hurley's imagined events more credibility? How you like that, Libby?).

Anyway, the leg-breaking question snaps Hurley from his daze. Libby looks deeply into his eyes. "I am real," she says. "You're real. The way I feel about you ... that's real."

Libby leans in and kisses Hurley. They embrace. They kiss deeper. And then a stiff wind blows them both off the cliff.

Ahem, sorry. My imagination took over my reality for a second there.

So, they kiss on a cliff and get all oogy-woogy over each other. When they unclench their lips, Hurley takes Libby's hand and they begin to walk back toward the beach camps.

"Do you really think I can change?" Hurley asks.

"Yeah," Libby says, smiling. "Yeah I do."

BUT HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE ...

Libby's smile fades. Her mouth curls and her eyes drop.

CUE BACKSTORY SWOOSH!

In the very last backstory segment, we learn something very, very interesting:

  • The scene shifts to the break room in the mental hospital. Hurley sits at a table as Dr. Brooks snaps a Polaroid of him and "Dave" (it's the same scene as before, only this time Dave isn't visible).

    Brooks takes the shot. The camera pans back and we see the shoulder of another patient -- a woman with dark hair. The camera moves around as a nurse extends a small cup of pills toward the patient. We hear the nurse say ...

    "Here's your pill, Libby."

    EXCUSE ME?

    The patient moves her dark hair back and there, wearing a dazed expression, is Libby. Her eyes wander around the room and her face is stuck in a perpetual drug-addled grin.

    And that's when it ends!

Point 2
Sayid

Ana-Lucia

Locke

Henry Gale
Ohhhhh, they really disappointed me this week. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Hurley stuff, but after last week's Henry Gale zinger, I was desperate for more Gale Goodness. Unfortunately, we only got two brief scenes -- but the good news is that both Gale segments were awesome.

Henry Scene No. 1.

When last we left "Henry," he had just been unmasked as a Henry Gale impostor. Sayid used his Republican Guard Detective Training to unearth the driver's license for the real Henry Gale, and the revelation left "Faux Henry" in an uncomfortable position. He was now surrounded by a group of bloodthirsty castaways hellbent on truth and revenge (and not necessarily in that order).

In this episode, Faux Henry is still alive ... for now. Sayid has tied Faux Henry's arms to the walls of the hatch armory (the pose is Christ-like, which had to be intentional) and, since he's got a captive audience, Sayid proceeds to poke all sorts of holes in Faux Henry's story. Ana-Lucia saunters into the armory as Faux Henry tries to worm his way out of Sayid's shitstorm. In his revised ruse, Faux Henry claims that he was part of a search party that came looking for the real Henry Gale (he neglects to mention why he'd assume the identity of a dead balloonist or who sent the search party or where the other members of the search party might be ... but I digress). Faux Henry claims that when he and the rest of the search party found the real Henry Gale, the balloonist had already died from a broken neck.

If you listen very carefully, you can hear Sayid's rat trap snapping down on Faux Henry's head.

Sayid reaches into his pocket and produces a $20 bill. The bill has a handwritten message on it -- a message written by the real Henry Gale to his wife, Jennifer. In a short note, Henry details his plan to hike to the beach to start a signal fire, then he tells his wife he loves her.

So here's the catch: How did a guy with a broken neck write a letter to his wife? Moreover, how can a guy with a broken neck hike to the beach?

Faux Henry's face hits the floor. The jig is officially up.

"Listen, I'm just a ..." Faux Henry stammers.

"How many of you are there?" Sayid snaps.

"If I told you about them, you'll have no idea what he'll do," Henry yelps.

"He" Sayid says, leaning in.

"You mean their leader," Ana says. "The guy with the beard."

"Him?!" Henry blurts. "He's no one! Nothing!"

Sayid stands and points his pistol at Faux Henry. He gives him a count of three to answer his question: "How many of you are there?"

One ...

"I can't!" Faux Henry screams.

Two ...

"He'll kill me!" he pleads.

Three ...

"I am not a bad person!" Faux Henry weeps.

Sayid puts pressure on the trigger. Ana, thinking fast, slams her arm under Sayid's hand and snaps the gun up as the pistol fires. A bullet digs into the plaster above Henry's head as Ana swings Sayid's arm around and grabs the gun.

The gunshot catches Jack's attention (he and Locke are in a nearby room) and he rushes in. Ana says she's got it under control, then tells Sayid to get out. For the moment, Henry has dodged the bullet (Literally! Ha!). And that brings us to ...

Henry Scene No. 2

Toward the end of the episode, Locke moseys into the armory to have a heart-to-heart with Henry. Locke, who's now on crutches thanks to last episode's lockdown incident, asks Henry two questions ... but he gets three surprising answers:

  • Question 1: What is Faux Henry's real name? The ersatz Mr. Gale dodges this one, telling Locke that he's grown "used to" the name Henry, so that's what he wants to be called. No problem Hank, whatever you say.
  • Question 2: Was Faux Henry caught on purpose? It's an excellent question on Locke's part. How could a guy who's lived on the island for years get trapped in a prehistoric rope trap set by a crazy French chick? Ahh, but here's what's interesting -- Henry doesn't answer this question at all. Locke offhandedly says "You and your people have been here for God knows how long ..." But before Locke can finish the thought, Faux Henry interrupts and says that "God" doesn't know how long they've been there. "He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can," Faux Henry says.

    Now, I could be wrong about this, but did religion just enter the Other equation? Did I detect a hint of atheism in Faux Henry's response? Does this reignite the purgatory theory? Or, like usual, am I reaching?

  • Now, Locke didn't ask a third question, but Faux Henry sure seemed hellbent on giving an extra answer. In what may be Henry's final mind-game, he tells Locke that during last week's lockdown, he went to the computer and watched as the countdown hit zero. The clock then shuffled and revealed red hieroglyphics (the same ones we saw in "One of Them") and then the hatch started heaving and clunking and the sounds of a big heavy magnet whirred to life. It was all very dramatic and intimidating. But then ... nothing happened. Henry tells Locke he never entered the code. He just stood there. The heaving and clanking and whirring stopped. The blast doors slid up. And it all happened on its own.

    Locke is visibly shaken. He sneers at Henry and says he's lying, but it's clear that cracks are creaking through Locke's foundation. If the hatch is nothing more than a ruse -- an experiment that asks scared souls to push a button every 108 minutes -- then Locke's fervent belief in the hatch and the island is built on lies. All of his Obi-Wan pontificating is foolish banter and, perhaps worst of all, Locke's newfound "reason for being" is nothing more than pseudo-science Dharma dung.

    You've gotta give Faux Henry credit; even when he's pooped himself, he's still got the moxy to screw with Locke's head.

Point 3
Eko

Charlie
In a brief scene, Charlie helps Eko construct his "mystery building." Charlie asks Eko what he's constructing (best line of the episode: "Is it a Starbucks?"), but Eko, in his charismatic Eko way, tells Charlie, "not yet."

I know most people think he's erecting a church, but I believe Eko has tapped into a niche market that combines his two passions: religion and wood. What he's building is a South Pacific distribution and manufacturing center for "Mr. Eko's Jesus Sticks: The Pole with Soul!"

Point 4
Island I'll close with unanswered questions that occupy far too much of my time:
  • Where is Claire? Does Emilie de Ravin have a different contract than everyone else?

  • Did Kate and Claire ever tell the rest of the group about the medical hatch? Did Kate tell anyone about the theatrical makeup and fake beards?

  • What's up with the map? How much did Locke memorize? Does Dharma subscribe to "Entertainment Weekly"?

  • Where the hell are Michael and Walt ... and Desmond?

  • What's going on with the Other army?

  • Will we ever learn anything more about the Black Rock? Or the black and white stones? Or Adam and Eve (yeah, remember them?!)?
That's it for now. Be sure to drop by our "Lost" Forum for stimulating conversation and conjecture.
Next Episode:
"S.O.S." -- Jack heads into Other territory to propose a prisoner swap. Meanwhiile, Rose freaks out when Bernard creates an S.O.S. signal. Airs: Wednesday, April 12, 9 p.m., ABC.




Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc.



Posted by Mac on April 6, 2006 11:04 AM | Email This




Great review as always Mac.

1. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 11:07 AM

Nice episode. A few points:

1) What a hilarious quote by Charlie ("I saw a polar bear on Rollerblades with a mango"). One of the funniest lines of the year.

2) Does anybody else think that the guy who plays Henry might be the best actor on the show? He gives Terry O'Quinn a run for his money, IMHO.

3) Was that a Sixth Sense kind of deal in the gym and the cafeteria or what? Hurley was the only one who actually saw Dave.

4) Anybody else think it was weird that Dave almost never makes eye contact when talking to Hurley? Thought that was odd.

5) I've pointed out the Michael Crichton similarities before. Get this: His book "Timeline" deals with magnetic anomolies, sketchy research endeavors, and the main research facility is called Black Rock. Sound familiar?

6) Don't get me wrong, I really LOVE this show, but there is a two-season long trend now of having really really cool episodes that raise intruiguing new questions in very entertaining ways, yet almost never answering even minor questions. I just hope this trend starts toward some answers soon, or else the show will start to get an X-Files reputation and casual viewers will start dropping off. The rest of us, of course, will still pour over ever word in every scene!

2. Posted by: KG at April 6, 2006 11:12 AM

I have a theory about Libby:

I think after she left the Mental Hospital and was feeling somewhat better, She saw Hurly on TV winning a bazillion dollars. She decided to stalk him. (even following him to Australia), she changed her look and figured get to know the big guy and move in on all that cash. Other than that I have a hard time believing she is a bad person. I think she just saw it as an opportunity for stability.

3. Posted by: D Shaw at April 6, 2006 11:13 AM

Worst. Episode. EVER.

Love the review, mac!

4. Posted by: Dan at April 6, 2006 11:13 AM

Love the site- first time poster.

I know this may seem elementary to you guys (intense theories that involve... MATH and stuff :-) but, it seems to me that in the few times we've had contact with the "others" they seem to make reference to being "good people" or so-and-so is a "good person" ie Wzalt, the kids, Ethan to Claire, now fake Henry. Could be a useless but I always notice it. Maybe the "others" ARE "good people" and we are just seeing them through eyes of fear, anger, and confusion of the castaways.

5. Posted by: PW at April 6, 2006 11:19 AM

If the explanation for the whole show is that the island is inside Hurley's head (or anyone else's head, for that matter), that's the most annoying and disappointing thing that could happen to this show. It's the cheapest way to explain away *everything* that we've been wondering about.

That said, I don't think this is the explanation, because, well, this is just some episode in the middle of the season. But if it turns out that this is what it's all about, oh man...

6. Posted by: tneloms at April 6, 2006 11:20 AM

I couldn't even keep reading. I had to chuckle and comment on the "And, beyond that, police reports concluded that criminal negligence could be assigned to the 4th, 15th and 16th partygoers." Perfect, just perfect! :)

7. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 11:22 AM

Great review Mac!! I have a question to add to your list...
How did "Henry" know that it was a magnet moving into place? That machinery noise could have been anything.

8. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 11:36 AM

Are these writers FOOLIN' with us!?! Actually, I expected ONE MORE SCENE following the "Libby and her meds" moment. In it, Hurley is suddenly knocked unconsious by a golf ball driven by Larry, Darryl and his other brother, Darryl, and wakes up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette, realizing that he is simply an over-weight Bob Newhart and he's been on the wrong show for a year and half!

What's next? Will "Chef" show up on the island in his afterlife?

9. Posted by: David Holsinger at April 6, 2006 11:37 AM

Thanks for the review, as usual.
I really didn't mind this episode, but the previews for the next one seem awesome "they'll never give you Walt" he he he.
Something important that I think you left out was Locke's incapacitation. He can't walk for quite awhile. And when Sayid almost shot faux Henry (I agree with KG about his acting ability by the way) Locke was frantically wondering what was going on and Jack said something like "I've got it under control". Locke is my vote on the next person to lose their mind on the island.
Thanks again for the reviews!

10. Posted by: Kate at April 6, 2006 11:39 AM

I wonder if it took 42 police offiers to come to that conclusion

11. Posted by: KillJackOff at April 6, 2006 11:39 AM

I've been wondering something...what if the writers of Lost had already decided on an ending/explanation, and then they read all the theories in these forums and found out their actual explanation (for instance, the purgatory theory) was a very popular theory, and now don't know what to do, because they want viewers to be surprised. How many times have they had to change their island explanation because it was "uncovered" by Lost fans?

12. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 11:42 AM

By the way, was it for this episode that the previews said "there will be 5 things that happen on the island"? If so, what were the 5 things?

13. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 11:44 AM

You forgot where's the stewardess who disappeared from the Tailies. And Kelvin/Kevin.

THEORY: They moved from the caves to consolidate after Zeke warned them not to cross the line and someone said that the beach was more defendable than the caves. (Where they would be trapped?)

14. Posted by: Piecesof Arzt at April 6, 2006 11:45 AM

The "5 things will happen that will make you flip your lid" advertisement was for last week's episode. I'm not sure which 5 things they were referring to.

15. Posted by: KG at April 6, 2006 11:46 AM

This episode clearly shows that the original storyline was good for two (or at most three) seasons. I think I'm not doing blind trolling here, because the main storyline IS JUST OUTSTANDING GREAT AND INNOVATIVE in my opinion. Nevertheless, I hope the writers will soon bring the main story to a consistent ending (similar to Alias Season 4) and then, after the main cast has died, continue with OPTIONAL baby and soap plots with new, cheaper and pregnant actors (like in "Alias" season 5) as long as the current Lost hype lasts... and believe me, it won't last forever (see also Alias season 5 ;).

Besides my criticism of the artificially prolonged Lost hype of the ABC money machine, here's the sugar: I really liked this episode.

The whole plot slowly begins to reveal the big picture:

- I don't think the characters on Lost are hallucinating at all. Dave, Jack's father, ... ARE on this island and they are DHARMA employees.
- now we have confirmation that some (probably a lot of) backstory characters are actually DHARMA employees (i.e. Dave must be one of them).
- I still believe faux Henry is not HIM.
- Probably Jack's and Locke's father also aren't HIM, but they are most probably DHARMA employees (which doesn't mean much, i.e. if they know about the whole plot/all running experiments -- only HIM knows).
- fake Henry Gale seems to think that he's working for the devil (his comment about god and the real world...) -- this doesn't mean HIM really IS the devil. I suppose most of the DHARMA employees are themselves victims of the experiments (they just don't know). At least in a literal sense they all seem to work for the devil and they are very afraid of HIM.
- btw, what does DHARMA stand for? -- D for devil?
- I don't think the purgatory speculations are correct, but I think this is the place where science and faith will meet.

One more thing: mountains are near to the sky (which is often associated with heaven) and (according to Zeke) there's a "line". Is the way to the mountains (literally) the way out of "hell" a.k.a. the island, i.e. the way to leave this "island"? Desmond was also heading straight to the mountains after doing his "job"... at least, there must be something really important.

16. Posted by: Margot at April 6, 2006 11:46 AM

Great review Mac! Your humor always cracks me up. One thing you missed, which I think gave credibility to Dave convincing Hurley that he was imagining everything is the fact that their was a poster of an island on the wall of his doctor's office.

Also, I noticed in the last two episodes, the show has shown more and more of the non-regular characters, is there any significance in that?

Lastly, did you notice that Hurley's doctor told him that the deck was built for 8, but there was 23 people on it. 8 and 23 are two of the infamous numbers.

17. Posted by: Sam at April 6, 2006 11:47 AM

It seems that everyone on the island has had some sort of hallucinations. Jack saw his dead father. Kate saw the horse, etc. I think that the black smoke monster thing is one facet of a large data collecting device. This device collects memories from people in order to run some sort of psychological experiments. Perhaps the black smoke monster can morph itself into a super high tech physical-manifestation holograph of something from a person's memory. As I recall, Sawyer saw the horse, too, but no one else saw Hurley's Dave. Perhaps there are two different types of "holograms" - one mental and one physical. This is total sci-fi stuff. Or perhaps Dave is just a hallucination. I'm inclined to believe that these hallucinations are being manipulated as part of the experiment.

18. Posted by: Kyle at April 6, 2006 11:48 AM

I have a random thought.

So Hurley is walking through the jungle, and boom, his backpack falls apart and the contents fall out and break. Now I know that the Dharma edibles were probably packaged slightly better than Hurley's half-assed attempt to throw peanut butter into his backpack, but I found it interesting that a potential air drop of food left all the contents unharmed (to the point where the crackers weren't even broken), yet the fall from Hurley's back to the ground broke the PB wide open and spilled the contents out. Makes you wonder if the new food truly wasn't the result of a drop from the sky. Between never hearing a plane AND the food all still being completely intact, it seems quite suspicous to me...

Meanwhile, loved this episode! I love that it toyed with our emotions like this episode was created specifically so that the writers could thumb their noses at some of our attempts at theories over the past year. I loved it!

19. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 11:50 AM

Thanks for the review. I just find it way too easy to accept how Libby found Hurley after he wandered through the woods with his imaginary friend for awhile. And what do you guys make of Henry Gale saying that God doesn't even know about this Island. As we know, you can't take any line of this show for granted.

20. Posted by: FloridaGuy at April 6, 2006 11:54 AM

hookedonlost, you've got a great point!! They made a point to have the characters (i.e. Sawyer) say that they never heard a plane, and also made a point of Hurley dropping the peanut butter, which was otherwise not necessary to the story (he could have just been shown sitting down and opening the jar and pigging out). Maybe they wrote in the dropped jar of peanut butter to show that there was no plane drop.

21. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 11:55 AM

Great job Mac,

"Mr. Eko's Jesus Sticks: The Pole with Soul!" had me laughing for a good 10 minutes.

I think the writer’s are debunking the theory a lot of viewers had about the whole show being something that Hurley invented in his head. I have definitely come across this point before in forums and blogs and I think the writer’s are just pointing us in the right direction. We know for a fact that Dave isn’t real b/c when we see Libby in the final scene of the backstory, Hurley has his arm around nothing, so the photo the doc showed him wasn’t a fake as his imaginary friend had indicated.

As far as Henry Gale, my guess is that he is an other, but that he’s a foot soldier. He was sent to the camp not to investigate the hatch (b/c he seems to know that it’s a ruse) but to infiltrate the group of survivors by using a great alibi story stolen from the real Henry Gale.

If Gale was caught on purpose then the reasons for this is that he’s good at instigating inner fighting between the group making it easier for the Others to pick them off one by one. Also, maybe they needed an insider to report about the Army that was going to be built.

If the got caught by accident, then maybe Gale’s story is a back up that all the Others have. A sort of protocol alibi in case any of them get caught.

If the French broad is in on it, its because again she’s trading the survivors’ safety for Alex.

22. Posted by: LP at April 6, 2006 11:59 AM

How nasty was that when Hurley was eating the peanut butter off the leaf? Ugh...

Thoughts: Since Libby is a psychologist, perhaps she was faking being a patient at the institute for some reason? It's a crappy cop-out, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the case.

23. Posted by: junger at April 6, 2006 12:00 PM

I think they left the caves when the French chick told them that the Others were coming for "the child." The group banded together for safety and figured the caves would serve as a trap. Does anyone remember if they went back after that?

Are they getting their water from the hatch? Are they just fetching water from the caves? Unclear.

24. Posted by: shannnon at April 6, 2006 12:06 PM

Maybe not an important observation, but did anybody check to see which slipper, right or left, did "Dave" leave behind for Hurley? And did that correspond to the proper foot when he showed up again? (This is obviously irrelavent if he's truly imaginary but I've learned not to take anything for granted with this show.)

25. Posted by: J-Rod at April 6, 2006 12:11 PM

Great review as always, Mac.

Now, I LOVE this show ... but I didn't like the episode on the whole. Didn't anyone else think that the whole Hurley/Libby love story was kind of forced. I mean, I felt like it was a soap opera. It reminded me of the awful Sayid/Shannon love story, easily the greatest mistake of Lost so far. Lame.

The Faux Henry scenes were awesome. Him & Locke might be the two best characters on the show. And I think that FH is *definitely* an Other now.

26. Posted by: Mike at April 6, 2006 12:12 PM

One other thought....Just b/c the "Dave" in the psych ward was imaginary doesn't mean that a real Dave didn't exist. Hurley would need someone on which to base his imaginary friend. Thoughts?

27. Posted by: J-Rod at April 6, 2006 12:14 PM

1st thing I forgot: thanks for your great recap, mac :)

2nd:
Tom wrote in "the 23rd Psalm" comments:
"...walk through the shadow of the valley of death," transposing valley and shadow.

I think we now have more hints for this. I really think the path off this island (whatever the island is) goes over the mountains and the valley of death actually IS the island.

28. Posted by: Margot at April 6, 2006 12:15 PM

True, J-Rod, good point. I still think Hurley's met Dave before, then he bacame his imaginary friend, and that Dave is part of Dharma.

29. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 12:16 PM

Here's a thought: when Sayid counted to three and then pulled the trigger on "Henry Gale", then at the last minute Anna deflected the gun toward the ceiling--could this have been planned by AL and Sayid in advance? (ie "good cop-bad cop") i have a hard time believing that AL would be able to get the drop on Sayid.
Great review, as usual, Mac.

30. Posted by: Kathy at April 6, 2006 12:18 PM

"I have a hard time believing that AL would be able to get the drop on Sayid."

Isn't she an ex-LAPD cop?

31. Posted by: Mike at April 6, 2006 12:20 PM

Yes, AL is an ex-cop, but Sayid is ex-Republican Guard and also bigger. It's just a thought.

32. Posted by: Kathy at April 6, 2006 12:22 PM

Did anyone get the Cheech & Chong connection:

"Hey man, it's Dave."

"Dave? Dave's not here."

33. Posted by: Pete at April 6, 2006 12:23 PM

You know, for someone who supposedly is so "in control" of himself (i.e. his constant mind games and his ambush scenario told to Locke and Jack), Faux Henry is awfully afraid to die. He absolutely cowers when a gun is pointed at him, which of course, is only human, but if he was planted there, wouldn't he be prepared for torture and possible death? I mean, he acts so brave one minute while he's taunting Locke and Jack, but when his life is threatened...I guess the Others, or Dharma, didn't prepare him very well for his "mission". Just a thought.

34. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 12:23 PM

And isn't it ironic that AL, who shot Shannon, (Sayid's girlfriend)because she thought Shannon was an Other, would prevent Sayid from shooting an Other?

35. Posted by: Kathy at April 6, 2006 12:24 PM

I think Sayid was too focused (and tunnel-visioned) to notice Ana coming at him to deflect the gun, and besides she was quick and coming from slightly behind him.

36. Posted by: Christina at April 6, 2006 12:25 PM

I guess AL had to learn that lesson the really hard way. Perhaps saving Sayid from that is the only thing she can do to make amends. I'm sure she's thinking that they're not done with faux Henry yet. Killing him prematurely would only be a mistake.

37. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 12:27 PM

I believe somewhere the writers disavowed the purgatory theory saying that everything they are doing could be explained scientifically. No magic or supernatural is involved. Of course now I can't find it!

38. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at April 6, 2006 12:30 PM

Great - as usual, Mac. Thanks!

Point 1: I don't believe the writers try to be perfect and neatly tie up all the loose ends. The supplies probably came from the sky. There would not be a reason to disguise the drop.

Point 2: We know there are alarms on the island (monster), so there are probably defense mechanisms as well (like blast doors closing whenever something passes over or is dropped from the sky).

Point 3: White HG knows the hatch... very well... and did something while the alarm was sounding. It took way too long to walk across the room after the blast doors opened. With his "mission" accomplished, he was willing to die rather than give up information.

Another bit of speculation - what if white HG is an outcast of the Others, but still loyal to their cause. In his mind, he's "... not a bad person", but also not a traitor. Next week should tell us the value of HG to the Others.

39. Posted by: 1.618 at April 6, 2006 12:35 PM

Ditto on the great review again! Always look forward to it. So why would they drop food to the hatch when they know it has been taken over by the survivors? Is it possible that whoever is responsible for the drops (the parent company) doesn't realize that things have gone wrong on the island? Maybe the (fake) bearded guy is the local supervisor of the island and is trying to cover up the situation on the island to his boss (the Him we keep hearing about).

40. Posted by: JohnW at April 6, 2006 12:39 PM

Okay, I have a question. Do we all trust Hurley's doctor, or could he be a DHARMA dude? The island picture on his wall etc. Maybe that facility is a farm club for the big leagues on the island.

Dave did make a good point about the photo and Kinkos or Photoshop.

Also what do you make of Sawyer's "Yeah I saw the plane. Just didn't tell you." Wouldn't you think even Sawyer would jump up and shout "Da plane! Da plane!"

41. Posted by: SoLost at April 6, 2006 12:43 PM

Also, I found it curious that Libby asked Hurley "who" he saw not what he saw. Why would she suppose in that food melee that he saw a person?

42. Posted by: SoLost at April 6, 2006 12:46 PM

I thought Sayid and Alicia were pulling a 'good cop - bad cop' routine on FH. I don't think Sayid would have shot him.

43. Posted by: CA66 at April 6, 2006 12:46 PM

DHARMA: Devil Has A Really Mean Attitude

Great review as always.

44. Posted by: Lordfoul at April 6, 2006 12:53 PM

FACT: Less bacteria on a leaf than a dinnerplate!

45. Posted by: DonnaD at April 6, 2006 12:55 PM

I can't believe no one mentioned Sawyer's line about opening a chain of convenience stores:
"Think Sayid needs a job?" That line was sooo bad it was good!

46. Posted by: Chris at April 6, 2006 12:55 PM

I know Mac has made LOTR references in the past..."setting out for Mordor", etc. I'm just waiting for Henry Gale to refer to the hatch as "My Precioussss". :-)

47. Posted by: J-Rod at April 6, 2006 12:59 PM

ACK! Anna Lucia, not Alica!

48. Posted by: CA66 at April 6, 2006 1:01 PM

I think the wrong emphasis has been placed on this comment from Henry Gale: "HE can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can!" It is not so much about God, but about the island somehow being 'invisible' to the rest of the world -- i.e. the survivors can't be seen to be rescued due to what? magnetic shield? Dharma experiments? gov't cover-up?

49. Posted by: Gail at April 6, 2006 1:09 PM

A few possibilities for Libby:


1) She actually IS a therapist, who has had a mental breakdown and now needs help herself in the hospital.

2) She atually IS a mental patient, who was obsessing over Hurley the whole time they were in the mental hospital. I thought it looked like she was staring AT Hurley before the nurse handed her the pills, and then again after she took them. Why she's obsessed with him, I don't know?

3) She has noticed him in the hospital, and then, as someone else has mentioned, when they are both out and on the road to recovery, she see's that he's become ridiculously rich and wants to cash in on that. Knowing that he's unstable, and knowing how the "Dr./patient" thing works gives her an advantage.

I'm leaning towards the "obsession" idea because it's more bizarre. But, who knows? I'm just glad to finally see that she WAS in the hospital with him and that IS how he recognized her! So many of us thought that might be the case when they were in the hatch doing laundry together! She just wasn't acting normal! Can't wait to see what twists they add to this story line!

50. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 1:18 PM

I agree with Gail. This island, for some reason, is hidden from view of the rest of the world. The magnetic sheilding sounds like a possible reason. The writers are great at giving us the info we need but presenting it in a misleading fashion. We're looking for the religious explanation when it's likely scientific. Nice point Gail.

51. Posted by: J-Rod at April 6, 2006 1:20 PM

I think Henry was caught on purpose, and the plan of the Others is to make a list of "the good people" like they did before they came to take the survivors on the other side of the island. So in that case if Henry ever makes it back to the Others, they may just show up and start kidnapping survivors again.

52. Posted by: Tiffany at April 6, 2006 1:23 PM

Gail, I also took his comment that way. That not even God can help them now they're in such deep doo-doo! Henry has obviously given up any faith that he has, if he ever had any. Could you imagine Rose or Eko making such a statemnt? I think not! They still have their faith intact. Henry's basically saying that there is NO ONE who can help them!

53. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 1:24 PM

Relating this more to the point, like J-rod was saying, no one can see them in the world, no one can save them.

54. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 1:27 PM

Hurley is a schizo (however you spell it, but you know what I mean). I don't think he knew Dave, or ran into Dave, before going into the mental hosp.

55. Posted by: schiano at April 6, 2006 1:31 PM

I have been wondering about Kate. She has really taken a back seat on all of the action. She used to be the adventure/Go-to chick that was always right in the thick of everything, and now that is AL. I don't think I have seen a scene that had just the two of them together. I would like to see some tension between them. Anyone have any thoughts on this subject?

56. Posted by: Carrie at April 6, 2006 1:33 PM

The Others are not there to make a list - they already know everyones's names, characteristics and more! (shown in previous episodes)

57. Posted by: DonnaD at April 6, 2006 1:37 PM

My interest in Lost had begun to want, as I just did not see ANY way they were going to make this work out that would not seem ridiculous. However, last night GOT ME BACK! After pondering this last night and this morning, here is what I think this is all about:

1) This is not purgatory, a dream, or something Hurley imagined. I think it's obvious this is real, but we are going to be tested as to our definition of "real" - such as an alternate reality.

2) Note that all characters have had some sort of traumatic event in their lives. Don't want to type them all out, but review each characters backstory and see.

3) I think the revelation last night gives us the first wave of what this is all about. I think it all a result of the "meds". They are anti-anxiety meds, and all the characters have experienced something that would trigger a need for this.

4) The Dharma Initiative created these and have their own agenda (which will play out from here on out). They are using these either by random or design on these specific people and once they are on them, "He" has control and can play this out however "he" sees fit"

5) This would explain why we have seen Jack's dad, the horse, Dave, wet Walt, etc. Does not explain everything, but it is a start.

6) Do not know the significance of kids - why "they" want them.

7) There are 100 other things I don't get, but I think that is what the show will do - explain how this all ties together, now that they have laid out how this all came about.

I realize I may be 100% off on this, but this certainly has renewed my interest in the show. This appears to be some kind of Matrix-like scenario - which I am perfectly OK with!!

Please pick apart my theory - take no prisoners (no pun intended)! I would much prefer to see the folly of thinking this than to invest any more time in it's probability.

PS - Love the reviews on this site! Kept checking all morning for it to be posted!!!

58. Posted by: Keyser Soze at April 6, 2006 1:40 PM

He's what Mac's link for clonazepam had to say about NOT taking the drug:


"This medication must be taken regularly to be effective. Do not skip doses even if you feel that you do not need them. Do not take clonazepam for more than 4 months or stop taking this medication without talking to your doctor. Stopping the drug suddenly can worsen your condition and cause withdrawal symptoms (anxiousness, sleeplessness, and irritability). Your doctor probably will decrease your dose gradually."


Well, we may wonder if Hurley was still on his meds after he was discharged from the hospital, and if he was still on them when they crashed? If so, then he probably has had to stop cold turkey since Sawyer has all the meds. Which could explain why Dave showed up again. That coupled with the exteme stress of his situation.

Or, that he was off his meds, but maybe kept a script with him for just such a "Dave sighting occassion". Either way, the stress of the crash and island life, the guilt from hoarding and binging on food and the possible lack of much needed anti-Dave medication would be enough to explain why he suddenly showed up again in Hurleys brain!!

I don't think Dave was a phsical person on the island, I think it was just Hurley slipping back into psychosis. Lucky he know's a shrink on the island to help him through it!! HA! HA!

59. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 1:42 PM

Dudes :
What if every main character in the show is actually in the same mental Hospital. Their back stories would suggest that they all could of had mental breaks.. Jack, Locke , Sawyer , Kate, Michael, Charlie, etc.......

60. Posted by: Jack MAC at April 6, 2006 1:48 PM

One other thing I think it explains - the absences of main characters (michael, hurly etc) for weeks at a time on the shows. If they stop taking their "meds" for any reason, they are not able to be in the "Dharma Matrix". The deaths of characters could also be explained - they would have recovered and no longer needed the "meds", thus their removal from the "DM". Just something to chew on......

61. Posted by: Keyser Soze at April 6, 2006 1:57 PM

great review once again mac...loved the jesus stick and marty mcfly lines!

great theories about the whole Dave thing everyone. i really enjoyed reading them but personally i think that he really was an imaginary friend and these are a few reasons why:
- why would they show the scene with the doc taking the picture again with no Dave in it if he wasn't imaginary?
- someone mentioned that there could have been a real Dave for Hurley to have based his Dave on but kids come up with imaginary friends all the time and they are not always based on people they know but mostly on how they would like themselves or someone to be.
- the scence in the gym where no one is listening to or is completely ignoring Dave convinced me and my roommate right away that Dave was not for real but only imaginary(that was so shyamalan!).
- when Dave dives off the cliff he lands in the water and not on the rocks - he would have to be one hell of a professional diver to clear those rocks from so high up and end up in the water.
- Libby asks hurley whom he saw and not what because she probably knows about Dave from his past...now that we know she was at the same institution as him. she probably figured that hurley was going back to his old self and that is why he was seeing Dave again.

well, these are just my thoughts and i could be wrong so please don't take them as trying to prove anyone else's thoughts wrong.

as for AL and Sayid, i also agree that they were playing good cop- bad cop and it was all an act. i don't think sayid would want HG dead without getting some real answers...but then he could just be driven by his love for shannon.

here's my theory about libby - she really was a psychiatrist but went crazy herself trying to help others and ended up in the institution but she recovered and left and her feelings for hurley are for real. i mean what good would it do her to fakely love hurley on the damn island where he has no money and even if he did it would be no good.

was that an awesome tackle by hurley on sawyer!! that's gotta be one of the most hilarious scenes ever!

ok, enough of my ramblings. let's see what you guys think of my ideas.

62. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at April 6, 2006 1:58 PM

JackMAC - Your thought takes the whole purgatory or dream sequence to a whole new level. I must admit that I would HATE it if that was true, but wow - what a theory. We already know for a fact that 2 of them were hospitalized and at the same facility. The same facility that also had a picture of some "island" on the doctor's wall. Maybe that's what the Dharma Initiative is all about, but it's all mental - no real island at all. Maybe that's how no one can find them to "rescue" them. It's like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" but to a much more widespread level. Everyone's been brainwashed???

Wow - I hope it's not true, but very interesting to consider!

63. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 2:00 PM

Here's the whole show in a nutshell, folks:

The island is really a modern "Land of Oz": Hurley is the new Dorothy, and as in Oz, all the members of Lost! are real characters from Hurley's institution. Have you ever noticed how every character on Lost! has a mental issue, from Jack and Locke all the way to the characters who were killed off? In Oz each character needed some element to redeem themselves...is that not true also on Lost!? In reality Dave probably committed suicide, and pulls Hurley in that direction..while Libby is still alive in the institution, and her memory keeps Hurley from doing the same. My bet is that in the end Hurley will break out of his mental state and be surrounded by all the figures we see on this show, just as with Dorothy.

64. Posted by: Loz at April 6, 2006 2:01 PM

Did anyone see anything suspicious on the doctor's key ring? I feel like the director must have specifically shown the keys on top of Hurley's file when the doc moved them to get to the Polaroid, but I couldn't find anything when I tried to freeze the screen. Dharma keychain like what Ethan had??????

65. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 2:04 PM

This island seems to turn thoughts into reality. Kates horse from here past was made visible to Sawyer and herself. Dave, although an imaginary friend to Hurley, certainly seemed real when he launched a coconut and smacked Hurley face repeatedly.

66. Posted by: GK at April 6, 2006 2:05 PM

someone mentioned how HG knew it was a magnet...i think he said it sounded like a magnet and he wasn't really asserting that it was a magnet.

i just don't see this whole Lost story to be something inside hurley's mind and based around him. how does eko tie into the mental institution? he was from nigeria!!! but then we don't know enough about him and what he was doing in australia and why he was headed to LA. anyway, i think it would be so cheap for the mental institution theory to be THE ONE!

locke is turning into a wuss!

67. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at April 6, 2006 2:09 PM

I thought they showed the keys to later punctuate that Hurley had swiped them from the desk. Even though he looked a bit surprised to see that he had them.

68. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 2:11 PM

mac will you marry me? you crack me up.

69. Posted by: Laura aka wolfie at April 6, 2006 2:12 PM

Faux HGs comments about the timer were interesting. The whole purpose of the timer could be to keep the caged subjects of Dharma experiments close to home. 108 minutes does not give much time to explore the island. Keep them pressing the button and the Others won't have to deal with people straying 'past the line'.

70. Posted by: GK at April 6, 2006 2:14 PM

I think the "dropoff" may have been brought in by a boat and towed way inland and had a parachute put on it as a ruse.

71. Posted by: Trinity at April 6, 2006 2:14 PM

I didn't see Mac or anyone else mention this idea, and it seems kind of obvious to me: Henry is setting Locke up to NOT push the button. by telling him that 'nothing happened' and the hatch is just a big joke and resets itself, now Locke must know the truth by letting the countdown run.

I liked the casual way Henry described it all: "Well, maybe they are hieroglyphics, but I'm no expert..." and he used the word MAGNET, which I am sure flew completly over Obi-Lockes head.

And in the preview, Henry had SUCH a smug smile...

72. Posted by: The Duf at April 6, 2006 2:15 PM

Good point, Karen. Thanks!

- you're right... Hurley didn't seem to realize he had them. It's like Hurley suddenly went from schitzophrenic to multiple personality and one of his other personalities had physically lifted the keys from the doctor's desk.

73. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 2:16 PM

EXCELLENT review, Mac! I LOVE reading these!!

But I beg you... don't call Henry "Faux Henry" again! It's frustrating!

74. Posted by: Osbut Thornburg at April 6, 2006 2:18 PM

GK: But when Dave smacked Hurley in the face, he was in the hospital, just before their escape attemt. So, Hurley was always able to physically feel Dave, at least in HIS mind. If he could feel Dave in the institution, then it makes sense that he could feel him on the island.

But I see what you're saying. Several characters have seen their deepest pains come to them on the island. Don't forget Sawyer and the vengeful boar that taunted him, and then he heard whispers when he didn't kill it. Bill, Ted and Mac said it best... "Strange things are afoot at the Circle K".

75. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 2:18 PM

I think the key comment by Henry Gale was "I'm not a bad person". Haven't we heard that same phrase, "bad person" before? That other dude that Ana Lucia puntcured in the jungle said that about the guy he killed. Thoughts?

76. Posted by: Jeff b at April 6, 2006 2:24 PM

Eko could of "gone" crazy for when and why his brother died and ended up at the institution because of it..In Michaels mind the "others" wanted Walt . The "others" represent his wife and walt's step dad....Think about it.. Why does that guy in the institition keep repeating the numbers?? everyone there hears it ??

77. Posted by: JackMac at April 6, 2006 2:25 PM

So Lost: I immediately thought the same thing about Hurley's doctor being somehow connected to DHARMA, and even went so far as to consider that "Dave" was somehow employed by them also. I also thought, for a second, that the first person in the robe that Hurley sees by the food drop and the actual "Dave" were two different people...but now I am not so sure...

It was also hard for me to watch Locke in a position where he was rendered useless again...when the gun went off and, because he had yet to get the crutches, he couldn't get to the holding cell to find out what happened...and then he is yelling and everyone is ignoring him...terrible...made my heart break!

Man, I really hope they are not teasing us too much about Walt for next week....BRING WALT BACK!

78. Posted by: vikki at April 6, 2006 2:26 PM

Jeff- I commented on the "good person" thing earlier. I think its something.

79. Posted by: PW at April 6, 2006 2:26 PM

Good point Karen. That coconut he through at Hurley did seem to cause the food to launch out of his mouth. I didn't this an imaginary Dave would have that effect.

80. Posted by: GK at April 6, 2006 2:27 PM

"I'm not a bad person " is a phrase that a lot of people use when they are down on their luck or dealing with an addiction or defending a poor choice they made.. perhaps the "others" are the main character's consciences...?

81. Posted by: JackMac at April 6, 2006 2:33 PM

Thanks for paying respects to Arrested Development with the "analrapist" line. I'm glad Lost fans are also AD fans although obviously not enough Lost fans are both.

82. Posted by: Dustin at April 6, 2006 2:38 PM

Godspeed Bluths. Godspeed. -- Mac

83. Posted by: mac at April 6, 2006 2:41 PM

First time poster - I love your recaps. I look forward to them every Thursday!

Also, I liked last night's episode. This whole series is great!

84. Posted by: Heather at April 6, 2006 2:41 PM

I just played Hurley's numbers at Keno and hit 6 of 6.
I am totally freaked out. This is a bizarre fantasy meets reality moment. It paid $5,000 on a 5.00 ticket.
Wow e Wow Wow Wow

85. Posted by: Jamie at April 6, 2006 2:48 PM

Uh-oh Jamie - watch out! They're cursed!!!!

LOL. Congrats!

86. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 2:53 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't Henry Gale Dorothy's uncle, and also the Wizard of Oz? The hot air balloon? Wouldn't surprise me if the Henry Gale of Lost! connects up with all of the characters, who collectively represent Dorothy. I think the Lost! Matrix idea is the best I've heard so far. Don't forget the cable attached to the island...this could represent the IV cable which feeds the Lost! characters their experimental meds.

87. Posted by: Loz at April 6, 2006 2:53 PM

Welcome to the blog, Loz.
Please see previous weeks discussions for many many thoughts on Dorothy's uncle.

88. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 2:56 PM

Fess up time - Has anyone else had the mindblowing revelation that the "numbers" must be a phone number we're supposed to call to find out the secrets to the show? It makes sense, right? A total of 10 digits... Ok, I'll admit it, I did it, tried it, and just to save you all the same silly heartbreak, all you'll get is a recording saying that it's not a valid phone number. Dumb luck that!

89. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 2:57 PM

Great work Mac. LOVE the McFly comment!!!

The first thing that went through my mind during the hg segment was good cop bad cop.

My major question is didn't Jack win all of soyeurs meds? maybe he never got them?

90. Posted by: db at April 6, 2006 2:58 PM

TOTAL RECALL.
This show now has the same basic premise. Is the whole thing a dream by one person (or more) lying in a hospital bed somewhere (or a lab)? Or is it a warped reality. Which is more believable? I just hope the show has a definitive ending unlike Arnolds super action 80s thriller.

91. Posted by: JAC at April 6, 2006 2:58 PM

Two items I noticed from the show last night, but as usual I may be way off base. Each had religious undertones.

1) In one of the beginning scenes, when the door to the where Henry is stashed is opened, Henry is standing there in pretty much the same position as most "Jesus on the Cross" pictures. Arms outstretched, head down and to the right.....

2) During the scene with Eko and Charlie, Eko dips his hand in the tub of water and looks to be "crossing himself" with his hand. If he was doing that could it be because ground he is standing on is holy? (Church site).

92. Posted by: kingnothingkc at April 6, 2006 3:03 PM

I have two words...Fight Club.

If you have not seen it then you need to see it. Hurley's story is very similar.

93. Posted by: Marie at April 6, 2006 3:04 PM

Hurley's going to start hitting himself?

I don't see the Fight Club connect.
Just because he imagines someone isn't a big deal.

He had a nervous breakdown after he killed two of his friends.
He stops talking to everyone and starts to subconciously punish himself for this by eating.
He gets put in the hospital by his mom.
They probably try to put him on a diet, and that's when Dave materializes.
Dave is a manifestation of Hurley's inner need to torture himself.

94. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 3:15 PM

Hey all. Love the site and the theory blogging, but this is my first post so please be kind.

One point no one seems to be mentioning, could all this be related to the tree frog incident with Sawyer? I read somewhere (maybe here?) that the frog shown in the episode was poisonous. Then nothing happened to Hurley or Sawyer, so I abandoned my tree frog conspiracy theory. BUT, did anyone else notice that when Dave was convincing Hurley that the island was all in his mind he said "every rock, every tree, EVERY TREE FROG..."???? Come one, we know that's no conincidence!!!!!

Let the comments and debunking begin.

95. Posted by: Stephanie at April 6, 2006 3:16 PM

Want to see something?

This is interesting:
Start at the bottom of the page and go up.
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/iowa_mural.html
Notice the Feng Shui?

96. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 3:17 PM

If you like that, how about this:
Again, start at the bottom.
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~andorfc/paint.html
wow!

97. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 3:18 PM

Zeppo -- That's awesome! The change from I'm Sick to I'm well is amazing.

98. Posted by: mac at April 6, 2006 3:22 PM

I just remembered the others "leader" a.k.a "the man that we earlier thought had a beard" say something to Ethan at the hospital thing: "He wouldn't like it", like there was a higher person involved? I see some resemblance to Faux Henry, who also said something like that. Coincidence?

Could "HE" be Hugo? It would be to obvious wouldn't it?

I also thought about Walt, that Michael wrote to him at the computer, remember that? Could "the Others" be aware of that and send out Henry to investigate the supposedly computer? And when he got the chance he did? Think about it, he was a scout for the computer??? A pretty loose but interesting view? (Sorry for spelling misstakes, I'm a swede)

/Robin

99. Posted by: Robin at April 6, 2006 3:27 PM

Whoops, sorry, I guess the the Oz connection is old stuff here. Well, how about this then. Henry Gale admits to Locke that he did not press the computer button, and yet nothing changed--their lives aren't any worse. Connecting the wizard to Lost! further, everyone on Lost! could represent drug addicts at a half-way house (not institution) who can "check out, but never leave", as in Hotel California (the Los Angeles connection). Pressing the button feeds the drugs brought in by the cable. Henry Gale will lead a metaphorical battle off this addiction island.

100. Posted by: Loz at April 6, 2006 3:33 PM

Hi Mac,
First time poster but read this every week when I come into work when I come into work the next day!

I don't know if this is the place I should be posting this or even if this has been addressed already....

Going back to the map we saw last week and HG explanation of nothing happening.

From what I remember (and I don't have Tivo so I am not sure), but Locke saw the map when the blast doors shut down on him. If these blast doors were not on "lockdown" mode most of the time, when did someone get to scribble the map on them, and why was it that you could only see it when the black light came on.

Anyways, did who ever scribbled the map want to hide this from DHARMA? Why were there no pieces of paper found around with the scribbles of the map on it. The map is pretty detailed and it would be hard to scribble something like that in the amount of time we saw the blast doors on lockdown.

Now to HG...He was able to mention that clock wound down, he didn't put in the numbers, he saw the hyroglyphics (sp?) and he mentioned the magnet, but nothing about the map. I can't remember, (no tivo again) if he mentioned anything about seeing a black light so I think the Others (who HG must be one of) don't know about the map.

Anyways, love the show, love the recaps and would appreciate any thoughts on my post....

Aloha!

101. Posted by: KB_Hawaii at April 6, 2006 3:42 PM

Check out the differences in the pics of hurly in the mental hospital. Very interesting!

http://www.thetailsection.com/

102. Posted by: bcook at April 6, 2006 3:52 PM

Just a random thought, so go easy on me. Maybe the others ran into Desmond and found that Kelvin was no longer manning the hatch and sent HG to investigate. And maybe this has been covered already, but what happened to Kelvin's body?

103. Posted by: IcebergSlimm at April 6, 2006 3:54 PM

Alvar Hanso is Leslie Nielson

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

104. Posted by: thinng at April 6, 2006 3:55 PM

Some more diabolic speculation: there are a couple of non-religious movies dealing with the devil in some kind of real-world fashion (i.e. "the usual suspects", "needful things", ...). "Good people" working for the devil is a recurring plot -- perhaps DHARMA employees (literally) sold their souls to the devil by working for HIM. As long as they think HE's the devil in person, he has a lot of control over them, even if he's just a normal human in the end (one could also see this as a psychological experiment from a scientifical perspective and not necessarily as pure religious topic). Another recurring theme is that the devil always let's others do the dirty jobs (perhaps HIM is the guy handing over the torture box to Sayid during the first gulf war... another HIM candidate for me). A proverb sais the devil "has many faces" -- perhaps there are actually a couple of HIMs hidden in the backstories.

Lost is about science, but it is also about faith topics. HIM seems to be a person who represents evil and also science ("experiments"...). This could lead both topics into a consistent story.

105. Posted by: Margot at April 6, 2006 3:55 PM

People keep mentioning that maybe the island is hidden and nobody can see it, maybe that's why Eco's brother's plane crashed into it and the real Henry Gale's ballon crashed. Just a thought, not a theory

106. Posted by: ToddG at April 6, 2006 4:00 PM

If this turns out to be like the movie "Identity" it will surely SUCK !!!
But I'm sure it will not. The writing has been way too good and besides that has already been done.

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

107. Posted by: thinng at April 6, 2006 4:02 PM

Loz, that may very well be.

I hope not.
That would really cheapen the show.

I don't know what the answers may be, but it better be good or else they are going to disappoint a lot of fans.

108. Posted by: Zeppo at April 6, 2006 4:03 PM

bcook - Thanks for giving me something more to rewatch for tonight. If that's really a true indication of the two different pictures, that's HUGE!

109. Posted by: hookedonlost at April 6, 2006 4:27 PM

Great review once again!

I do hope Lost actually picks up and stops all this flashback stuff, last episode was good but this one was back to usual, im beginning to wain.

Saying that the libby stuff was interesting, definitely a stalker

110. Posted by: adam at April 6, 2006 4:33 PM

bcook, hookedonlost,
actually we have 3 versions. In the last scene with Libby we can see the daylight through the window.

111. Posted by: Margot at April 6, 2006 4:51 PM

Sorry, first post and first time reading through. Has anyone mentioned yet that 4+8+15+16+23+42= 108!!!

112. Posted by: cyb at April 6, 2006 5:13 PM

Nice Work MAC.

Is it possible they are all in the metal hospital? And they are all in this land of make-believe (The Island). Here is why... they have all been through very hard times. Jack: His Wife and Dad die. Claire: The break-up w/ the boyfriend, the problems and guilt over the adoption. Maybe she did give her baby away (in real life), and that is why the baby is disappeared and sought after now. Micheal had a terrible break-up as well, maybe he lost it... and killed Walts Mom, and then tried to kid-nap Walt. Keep in mind Walt got taken too. Sawyer had his bad back-story too, as has Eko, Charlie, and Kate. Lock had his deal with his Dad and all that. Maybe all the rocky roads lead them to the coo-coo bin. What they are now doing is living out a fantasy of sorts on an island. The problem arises that this island has parts of the reality of the real world... The Others = Doctors. The hatches are solitary confinement. Maybe Desmond was Jacks David? I have probably lost my own mind with this theory... ask away though as to the holes in IT, because I have thought it through well. Ask anything...

113. Posted by: Bryan at April 6, 2006 5:43 PM

hey Bryan, for one, Jack's wife did not die, she left him for another man. Claire's baby hasn't disappeared, he was sick for a while but he is okay now. Michael did not kill Walt's mother, she was sick and died of natural causes - he was in America and she in Australia when she died. Sorry buddy, but your facts do not match up with the show fully.

114. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at April 6, 2006 5:50 PM

Maybe I missed something, but did anyone notice that when Hurley and Dave had the coconut throwing scene, that Dave ran off after an alarm started beeping? It sounded like the alarm in the hatch when it is time to put in the numbers. I had been thinking that Dave, like Jack's dad, Kate's horse, Saywer's boar, was a demon in his past that had to be reckoned with in order for him to move on. But, I had read someone's posting about them (the apparitions) all being on the island as Dharma employees. Seems odd to me that he would run off after the alarm went off. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

115. Posted by: Carrie at April 6, 2006 5:54 PM

If they are in an insane assylum, their facts may not be reality... that is what they think happened, but what if it really didn't.

116. Posted by: Bryan at April 6, 2006 5:55 PM

mac, I enjoyed the summary as usual, but I was a little disappointed you didn't mention the Ralphie vs Scott Farkas fight when you wrote about Hurley and Sawyer going at it.

117. Posted by: Sampson at April 6, 2006 6:01 PM

then maybe jack's dad is not dead and claire's boyfriend didn't really leave her!!!!

118. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at April 6, 2006 6:03 PM

Another thing that I noticed is that Dave shows up whenever Hurley is eating/overeating or when he finds the big food stash that was dropped or left by the others. Any thoughts on this?

119. Posted by: Carrie at April 6, 2006 6:08 PM

What if the whole Faux Gale (mind if I borrow that? ;) thing was simply a diversion put in place by the Others to keep a) Half of the Lost Anti-Other Crew (L.A.O.C.)in the hatch guarding Faux Henry and b) the rest of them (the L.A.O.C.) out looking for his alleged balloon?

We know these Dharma laddies don't like their employees/subjects/boyscouts around when the supplies are dropped (thus the blast doors, also sort of backed up by some of the material from "The Map"), so maybe the whole Faux Gale thing was just the Others exploiting an opportunity to perform an insurrection within the Losties?

Thanks again Mac for the -definitive- Lost episode reviews! :)

120. Posted by: lyndak at April 6, 2006 6:27 PM

if you haven't checked it out already, the wikipedia site has a TON of great information on lost, is updated frequently, and posts references of factual information. for instance, a section discredits some of the theories: they are not dear or in purgatory, the story is not taking place in one of the survivors' minds, the island is not a reality show, the black cloud is not a nanobot, etc.

you can check it all out for yourself at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_%28TV_series%29

cheers!

121. Posted by: barb at April 6, 2006 6:44 PM

Did anyone notice that Dave never had any physical interaction with anybody or anything? When Dave and Hurley are leaving the psych ward it's Hurley that opens all the doors and opens the windows. He's definately a hallucination.

122. Posted by: Jes at April 6, 2006 6:47 PM

As a pilot, I got one for y'all. What if this magnet-thingy IS the beacon? There is no way for a plane to get 1,000 miles off course unless the pilots were drunk (possible) or the navigation equipment was not working. If the super magnet were strong enough, it could affect the compass of the plane (or ballon, or ship) by distorting Magnetic North, which causes the vessels to track towards the island. If this is the case, then the island gathers its lab rats by tricking their navigation. This idea also makes sense in that when the "button" is not pressed, it could mean that the lab rats are dead and gone and more test dummies are needed. The magnet starts up and THEN a new batch of guinea pigs are delivered. The OTHERS then "train" the newbies by pretending to have been manning the button for millenia and need a vacation...thereby perpetuating the experiment. If we see some new shipwreck-ees in another episode, the idea could be plausible.

If I am right, I apologize for ruining the surprise :)

123. Posted by: T.J. at April 6, 2006 6:47 PM

once again great recap mac!
great episode by the way!

something that came to my mind: somebody mentioned "multiple personalities" and it hit me!

anybody know the movie IDENTITY?! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0309698/

so, if it's REALLY in hurley's head, i think this is how it's gonna be!

124. Posted by: DnG at April 6, 2006 8:13 PM

In this interview with Damon Lindeloff, he specifically says that the island is not just inside one or more of the characters' heads, as in Identity: http://losttv-forum.com/bonus/interview.htm

125. Posted by: tneloms at April 6, 2006 8:30 PM

Not a bad episode; but yes, last week's was much better. As for the map maker having enough time to make the map... I would just assume that's he (mapmaker man) had experienced a few lockdowns.

Next week's episode looks awesome. I just hope it's not another Jack Flashback... we've had our fair share already.

126. Posted by: Middies at April 6, 2006 8:36 PM

OK, now I am wondering what Eko's building. My hunch is that it's a church or a holy site.

That was really wierd whne Libby was at the psyche ward. Maybe she was a nut-job, maybe she faked being a crazy to see Hurley and get his attention.

But i saw you guys talking about the psyche ward being a hangout place for the DHARMA bigshots. Can I get a picture of "the island" on the wall in Brooke's office? Thanks.

Also, Henry actually looked like friggin Lucifer reincarnated in the previews. That was creepy.

And that was really wierd when Jack was standing, screaming, out in the rain. That reminded me of "The Faculty" when the Gym coach was standing out in the rain.But what was he saying,what did he mean, and why are you making Walt referances to it. Please inform me.

Yeah, Dr.Brookes =DHARMA guy. My thought is that they sent Dave to screw around with Hurley. Then when Brookes took the picture on the camera he just used a computer to take Dave out.

In last weeks episode the safety locker thing's number was 1516, the third and fourth of the numbers. Amd "23" people were on the deck Hurley allegedly broke.

"Mr. Eko's Jesus Sticks: The Pole with Soul!", had me laughing for a good couple of minutes.

Great review Mac can't wait for next week's review.

--Murphdogg

127. Posted by: murphdogg at April 6, 2006 9:21 PM


I also agree with KG that the actor playing Henry is mesmerizing -- he makes me suspect that there's a deep spiritual angle to the show. And, drawing on Bryan's comment that flashbacks in an insane asylum may be false, what if "Dave" was partly right? Some things that seemed to be reality are fake, but it's actually the memories that are misleading instead of the island life?
Thank you, Mac! Your blog is always a treat~

128. Posted by: Kim at April 6, 2006 9:23 PM

Wasn't the pic of Dave and Hurley a Polaroid??? Photoshop is cool, but you can't photoshop a Polaroid.

129. Posted by: TJ at April 6, 2006 9:55 PM

Somewone said above that none of the food or anything was damaged. I think Somewere on the island probly underground theres a giant magnet. (Thats wat "henry" heard.) The button is to just see if the the people in the hatch need to be restocked. The magnet (Let me remind u this magnet would have to be ENOURMOUS) pulled the food off another landmass. but it would not be sent all the way to the ground the magnet would let go and the parachute would come out and carry it to the ground. That would explain why nowone saw or heard a plane. And any way if the button was to keep Atomic or some kind of explosive device why couldnt they just have a button to launch it?! Also in Orientation in the Orientation Video they mentioned anincedent this incedent was also mentioned on THE DOOR MAP THING. Thanx for readin :)

130. Posted by: Cam at April 6, 2006 9:57 PM

murphdogg....if my memory serves me correctly, and I am without TiVo mind you, I believe in the preview Jack says something about trading HG for Walt to AL or Kate....then Jack is seen yelling to the Others in the rain, then it looks like someone else gets caught in a trap similar to the one HG was in...I believe that is why references are being made to Walt in this week's forum...

HG did look EXTREMELY creepy in the preview as well....all clean shaven and appeared to look as though some of his wounds had healed...I am convinced that he is "HIM" or closely related to whoever "HIM" is....what an effective actor...he REALLY REALLY creeps me the hell out...

I think Eko must be making some sort of place of worship....I had an idea that maybe he needs to have something like this around him at all times to help ward off the temptation to go back to his wicked ways...just an idea...

131. Posted by: vikki at April 6, 2006 10:05 PM

My favoite line this week was when Kate,grinning, says to Sawyer, " It looks like you got your ass kicked."

132. Posted by: Patrick at April 6, 2006 10:34 PM

DB once again, for the third week in a row
its SAWYER
;)

133. Posted by: Phil Zoop at April 6, 2006 10:37 PM

An obscure irony...

The actor who plays Dave was in a short lived sitcom a few years ago, playing a character who had won the lottery!

134. Posted by: barry at April 6, 2006 10:39 PM

Things have gotten very interesting the past few episodes, haven't they?

I've been reading the blog but haven't had time to read all the comments or make any comments in awhile. I loved the "airdrop" of supplies - can explain the new W&D as well as a lot of things, including the blast doors closing.

I'm beginning to think there are two things at play on The Island. The first major force is "The Others" - who we're slowly learning about. I think the second major force is the island itself, with all of it's "unique" electromagnetic properties, and so forth.

For awhile I wasn't sure that The Others were connected to Dharma. One the one hand, the Dharma Project would look to be defunct (no more two person teams, graffiti on the walls, abandoned / trashed medical hatch...) but then on the other hand, the hatch is still operational (whatever that means), apparently supplies are still being delivered, and so forth...

Kate discovered the disguises, which basically show us (combined with Claire's memories) that The Others aren't the scruffy rag tag bunch that they want the Losties to think they are... in fact, they have the ability to prep and run (and ransack - why?) a very nice OR suite. They have a leader, and they don't want the Losties going past a certain point on the island. They also have a boat...

So, I'm thinking this - the Others have a nice, modern facility (or hatch) on the other side of the island, with at least one boat, who knows what else. It might be hidden, or underground, but they don't want to be disturbed. I'm imagining that it's a sort of Skinner-ian collective, and that they're all related to the original Dharma project. That having been said, I think that "him" - their leader - is either the male grad student in the orientation film, or Hanso. Given the plentiful nature of generic supplies, Dharma's still being funded, so Hanso seems more likely. I bet the grad student shows back up, though...

So that's all well and good, but then what about the island? I'm thinking that the smoke may be something inherent to the unique properties of the island... a hallucination, an electromagnetic phenomena, who knows... Hanso had a lot of interests outside of psychology, and they may be trying to harness the powers of the island. Maybe the island doesn't want that.

So then you have your two forces - the forces of science / psychology (The Others) vs. nature / faith (the island) with the Losties torn in between. Mmm mmm good.

So how'd the losties get there? The crash seems like it should've killed them all, as Sayid pointed out, so I"m wondering if they weren't abducted and delivered to the island 'crash' scene, since early episodes showed many of the main characters "waking up" (tight focus on the eye... mmm eye on the hatch graffiti... seatac astronomy...)

Anyway, that's my latest thoughts. I loved the map on the hatch door. Excellent stuff. The HG storyline is coming along nicely - maybe The Others decided to "cut him loose" and that's why everyone returned from the balloon uncaptured. I have a suspicion Jack's hijinks are going to backfire next episdoe...

until next time...
BH

135. Posted by: Biohazard at April 6, 2006 11:01 PM

Sampson: Ralphie vs. Scud Farcus is so perfect!! Why didn't I think of that one!! Great moment for the "little" guy turning the tables on the bully!!! I absolutely loved it when Hurley went "Ralphie" on Sawyer- and Sawyers one of my favorite characters, but it was great to see that wise ass get his mouth shut for him by someone who had just had ENOUGH!! Just like with Ralphie!! (This is a reference to the movie "The Christmas Story" that they play for 24 hours in a row at Christmas! Classic movie! Love the humor!)

Great analogy!! Sorry if someone already commented on that, but I had to skip on down and post on that before I forgot abput it reading the rest of the comments.

136. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 11:15 PM

Tie-in for Locke & Hurley - Locke "inspected" the deck that collapsed after Hurley walked onto it. There have been several instances where decks have collapsed after having too many people on them. Most of these are in campus areas & were not inspected by certified inspectors but by "Home Inspectors". (I'm a certified building inspector & trust me - the experience & tests that have to be passed are much more than taking an online course!)
Possibility that Libby owned the place that the deck collapsed & that was what put her in that state of mind? Jack was one of the doctors that tried to save the 2 taht died?

137. Posted by: katpaws at April 6, 2006 11:26 PM

Murphdogg and Vikki: In the preview, HG also says "they'll never give you Walt". And I thought it looked like maybe it was Jack and Kate hanging in that net.

And the shot of HG with that creepy lighting and evil look on his face really creeped me out too!! I'll be a bit sad when HG's run on the show comes to an end. The writers and the actor bring such an intense quality to this charachter. One minute I'm totally freaked out by what he says or a facial expression, and then in the next few moments, or the next episode, I'm feeling pity for him. Great writing, great acting!!

138. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 11:34 PM

Katpaws, I also thought that maybe there was the deck accident connecting Libby and Hurley. But I was thinking of it from the veiwpoint that maybe someone Libby loved, a family member or lover, was one of the ones killed by the accident. She then finds herself in the same mental institution as Hurley and that is why she is staring him down at the end of the episode? Does she have vengence in mind? Did she stalk him to Austraila? Is that what that odd look on her face was all about after Hurley asked if she thought he could change?

All wild speculation, but I like the idea that Locke inspected the deck. That's a good idea. a
And I like the idea that the house belonged to Libby, or she had a connection to one of the victims. It's just out there enough to be a possibility for a story line!

139. Posted by: karen at April 6, 2006 11:44 PM

Just a memory refresher, back in "The other 48 Days" or maybe "Collision", Libby says she went to med school for a year before she dropped out. And gives us the info that she's a clinical psychologist. That is according to the man himself!:) I just re-read Mac's review of "The Other 48 Days". Mac, you just get better and better with time!!!

140. Posted by: karen at April 7, 2006 12:25 AM

Sampson - I tip my cap to you. "The Farkus Affair" would have been the *perfect* reference!

And how awesome would the leg lamp look in the hatch?

141. Posted by: mac at April 7, 2006 1:19 AM

I keep wondering what the big picture is for the Others. The founders of the Dharma project were following the teachings of BF Skinner. His main idea was "operant conditioning" meaning if you do something and you get a positive response then you will be conditioned to repeat the behavior. With a negative response you are conditioned not to repeat the behavior. Entering the code in the hatch is a prime example.
I think the Dharma project is a human behavior experiment with a goal of a utopian society just like Skinner wrote about in "Walden II".
Can people be conditioned to be "good"? There's an awful lot of bad apples on the island (ever notice how many of them are murderers?).

142. Posted by: Tina at April 7, 2006 3:17 AM

I think Faux Henry could actually be a "Good Person." Remember that Claire had help getting out when she was taken by the Others, so not everyone on that side of the island has a bad streak. He could have been the outcast, possibly exiled or he ran off? Anyway, I think he will end up siding with Jack and Company (Similar to Mini-Me's situation when he sided with Austin Powers) and lend his knowlegde to them in the fight against the Others....

143. Posted by: David at April 7, 2006 5:25 AM

Call me stupid but this "dave" has to be real.
reason:
If he is not real how can 'jabba da gut' pick up his slipper.
Being in the Uk i'm yet to see this ep yet, when jabba first saw Dave on the island by the food drop do you think that everyone else being so amazed with the food just missed him?
I think the drugs used in the mental home were Dharma issue.

144. Posted by: Dave at April 7, 2006 5:50 AM

Mac....another awesome job! Not sure which I look forward to the most each week...watching the show, or reading your always hilarious blog and reading everyones theories! Thanks for doing what you do!

Okay, looking for some help here....where is this mental institution Hurley is in? I thought that it was in Australia...didn't Hurley travel there to find out about the numbers in a Season 1 episode? If that's the case, Locke wouldn't have inspected it. But, maybe he was on the deck that collapsed though.

145. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at April 7, 2006 6:28 AM

Hey guys, this site is great, living in england i can't wait for the episodes, so itunes it is for me.

Just wondered if anyone noticed the part where, Hurley is throwing around all his food with Libby, Jin comes running out of the trees saying something in Korean. But Sun is only a few feet behind him and shouts over to both of them "they've found something". Now she said this in English, so surely Jin would have heard her speaking?

Then when Hurley is on the edge of the cliff Libby says that Sun translated to her that Jin saw Hurley. (1. How can Jin see Hurley on the edge of the cliff? 2. Did she translate in front of Jin?)

Does Jin know Sun can speak english?

Thanks people. Keep up the great reviews Mac. Top stuff!!

146. Posted by: hoylesy at April 7, 2006 8:13 AM

Maybe Locke Got paralized on Hurleys deck colapse?

147. Posted by: Wilcoy at April 7, 2006 8:14 AM

Jin has known Sun can speak English for a while now...it initially caused a lot of conflict between them.

148. Posted by: JoePike at April 7, 2006 8:36 AM

Hey Dave...Dave's really not real. The slipper and the coconut that hit Hurley were also things his mind created. When you see the episode, you'll see Hurley ask Libby if she saw him holding a slipper on the beach and when she says no he realizes that it really was all in his mind.

149. Posted by: JoePike at April 7, 2006 8:39 AM

I love reading your reviews, you pick up so much of the 'hidden' stuff. There is still so much to learn about each character. We still haven't seen everything that brought them to Australia and then to catch the same flight home. I think it is a government experiment and they were all deliberately put on the same plane that was intended to crash on the island and they are being put through some type of test. Perhaps they were seated in a particular place in the plane which ensured they would survive. The dress-up costumes in the other hatch are an obvious clue that someone is messing with the minds of the survivors. I can't wait to see what lead everyone to the flight and the island. I just hope they start pulling the story together a little more before the introduce more questions.

150. Posted by: JJ at April 7, 2006 8:40 AM

Has anyone else