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Key Points from "Three Minutes"

Season 2, Episode 22
Episode Air Date: 05/17/06

Point 1







Zeke/Mr. Friendly


Ms. Klugh


The plot threads that have been dangling throughout the season are starting to wind together in unusual and intriguing ways. Major questions appear to have answers. Unexplained events are starting to make sense. And the motivations of the Others are starting ... oh who am I kidding? We'll never understand the Others.

But things are definitely coming to a head, which means the finale is going to be a doozy!

So let's jump in!

Note: I'm going to try something a little different this week. The backstory segments in "Three Minutes" are deeply woven into the fabric of the overall episode, so I'll be tracing the primary plotline as it played out. This first Key Point will jump back and forth between backstory and current event segments. Hopefully this won't be confusing.

And so we begin ... with "The Hunting Party." Yes. We actually begin with an episode that aired back in January. Now, stick with me on this one because it's exceptionally important.

It was during "The Hunting Party" that Michael began his Walt rescue mission. You'll recall (or maybe you won't; the episode aired four months ago), that Michael knocked Locke out, stole a rifle and a pistol from the hatch armory, then trapped Jack in the armory with Locke before heading into Other territory to get his boy. During the same episode, Jack, Locke, Sawyer and Kate pursued Michael in the hopes of thwarting his ill-conceived rescue attempt, but the quartet's own efforts were thwarted when they ran headlong into Zeke and the Others.

Got all that?

So with all this exposition floating in your head, we'll now begin our regularly scheduled episode recap.

"Three Minutes" opens with a scene that transpired 13 days ago ...

Michael is in the armory with Locke. The armory is full of guns (as an armory should be) because at this point, Sawyer has yet to steal all the guns and hide them in his tent ... but I digress. So Michael is in the armory and he's jittery as hell -- his eyes are too wide, his hair is disheveled, and he's a little too interested in grabbing a big gun and heading out for "target practice." Somehow, Obi-Locke fails to pick up on the warning signs. This proves to be a painful mistake for Locke because Michael cracks Locke on the back of the head and drops him to the floor, unconscious.

And this is when things get interesting.

With Locke out cold, Michael grabs a rifle and a pistol and runs into the hatch computer room. He sits at the keyboard and types wildly, hoping that Walt (or the Person Posing as Walt) will respond. And respond he does. The exchange goes something like this:

>: igmrmpijclhnhuapa ihorroetoncm; rotflmao

(Editor's Note: This looks like a random string of letters, but it's actually a rarely used Web abbreviation. In Web parlance, "igmrmpijclhnhuapa ihorroetoncm; rotflmao" is an abbreviation for: "I've Got My Rifle and My Pistol and I Just Clocked Locke in the Head and Now He's Unconscious in the Armory so Please Answer me so I can Head Off on a Ridiculous Rescue Operation that will End Tragically for Our Newest Cast Members; Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off.")

Michael, realizing that Walt doesn't have time to decipher arcane Web abbreviations, erases his first message and replaces it with ...

>: You okay?

Walt responds:

ok. no time. come soon?

(Walt is one of those E.E. Cummings chatters; no capitals and no punctuation).

Michael responds:

>: I'm ready. Coming NOW. You said north ... north WHERE?

Walt responds:

when they take me out. there's huge rocks with a big HOLE in the middle by the beach. you'll know when you see.

Michael responds:

>: It's gonna be okay. I'm coming.

Alas, the IM session is cut short when Jack walks into the hatch and calls out for Locke. Michael bolts from the computer and finds Jack standing over Locke's unconscious body in the armory. Michael cocks his gun and then, in a very dramatic, very convincing manner, informs Jack that:

  1. He's going after his boy.
  2. He's going after his boy alone.
  3. He's going to lock Jack in the armory, and then rescue his boy.
With that, Michael slams the door and away he goes.

We now move into the Present Day ....

Michael is standing outside the hatch, holding a pink sheet of notepaper. The paper appears to have handwriting on it, but the message is only visible to Michael. Given his facial expression, Michael is not pleased with his grocery list (or his "Honey Do" list, or maybe it's Joe McCarthy's list of Dharma sympathizers). In fact, Michael is so displeased, he pulls out a lighter and ignites the list.

The hatch door swings open and Jack pops out, startling Michael. Mikey turns to the side, making sure the blazing notepaper isn't visible to Jack. Jack remains clueless to the waft of smoke emanating from Michael's hand. He asks/demands that Michael come inside so they can discuss a new and improved Walt rescue mission.

Jack goes back into the hatch and Michael chucks the charred notepaper on the ground. He squashes the remnants with his boot, then reenters the hatch to pow-wow with Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer. (Remember those names: Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer.)

Michael suggests the group raid Sawyer's gun stash and launch an immediate surprise attack on the Other camp. Michael is super hopped up and borderline irrational at this point, but he's adamant about one specific thing: the rescue party needs to be comprised of "just the five of us." For some reason, Michael believes that it is very important -- VERY, VERY IMPORTANT -- that Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer are the only people who help him with the rescue mission. It's as though Michael is following orders ...

Anyway, all this talk of Others and gunplay elevates the hatch vengeance level to an unprecedented height, but just as everyone is gearin' up to chew bubblegum and kick ass, Hurley explodes.

"They're DEAD!" he shouts.

Everyone stops dead in their tracks (except Ana and Libby, they're already dead).

"Ana-Lucia and Libby are dead," Hurley says. "I mean, we haven't even buried them yet!"

The group realizes the big man is right. All this rescue talk is premature and disrespectful of the dead. Perhaps it would make a bit more sense to properly dispose of the two bodies that are currently stacked in the hatch bedroom. Yeah, that might be nice.

The hatch vengeance level drops to DEFCON 5. Jack tells Michael they'll continue formulating a plan tomorrow; tonight, they need to bury Ana and Libby (and have a kegger). Michael looks down. His eyes wash over the crimson puddle of blood pooled on the hatch floor.

The scene shifts back 13 days ago ...

Michael is running through the heart of the island. He's huffing and puffing, but he appears to have a sense of where he's going (he consults a compass to make sure he's running north -- apparently he doesn't realize that the island wreaks havoc on compasses; oh well).

Mid-way through his island jog, Michael stumbles into a clearing. His eyes grow wide as he spots a man standing a few meters away. The man is taking a leak on a Dharma bush, so he's unaware of Michael's presence. Michael cocks his rifle and tells the man to stay put. The man, who's barefoot and dressed in ratty clothing, spins around ... thankfully, he's done whizzing.

But here's the weird thing: the guy isn't surprised. Michael just caught him dangling his Dharma device, and the guy isn't remotely shocked. The man -- herein known as "The Whizzing Other" -- holds his hands up and cracks a smile.

"You're Walt's old man, aren't ya?" the guy asks.

Michael is dumbfounded. His only response is to point his rifle menacingly at The Whizzing Other.

The Whizzer's gaze shifts behind Michael. The shot shifts. Zeke/The Bearded Other looms over Michael's shoulder! Michael spins, but Zeke snares the rifle and points it skyward. Michael struggles.


Two shots explode into the sky (and hit another Oceanic plane?). Michael breaks free and starts to run. Out of nowhere, the Whizzer whips out a pistol and fires at Michael.

"What are you doing!?" Zeke barks. "We need him!"

Zeke spins a bolas over his head and whips it toward Michael. The weapon whips around Michael's ankles and he falls hard to the ground. The Others rush in and slap a burlap sack over Michael's head, then push him into the jungle. (Note: Thanks to everyone who helped identify Zeke's weapon!)

The scene cuts to the Present Day ...

Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley have taken the bodies of Ana and Libby down to the beach for a funeral. Michael, alone in the hatch with his guilt and a giant puddle of blood, tries to atone for his sins by cleaning the floor with Dharma disinfectant (Fresh Island Scent!). Eko suddenly appears, startling Michael (good thing Michael isn't armed; Eko would be a goner).

Michael, perhaps feeling heat from the eternal flames of damnation that await him, asks Eko if he believes in hell. Eko answers the question with an allegory. He tells Michael that for a short time he worked at a parish in England, and while he was there, he often saw a boy sitting in the back of the church. One day, the boy came to Eko and confessed that he had beaten his dog to death with a shovel because the dog had nipped his sister. The boy wanted to know if he would go to hell.

"I told him," Eko says, his eyes piercing Michael's guilt-ridden soul, "that God will understand ... he will be forgive ... as long as he was sorry."

Michael stops scrubbing and looks at Eko.

"But the boy didn't care about forgiveness," Eko continues. "He cared that if he did go to Hell, that dog would be there waiting for him."

With that, Eko gets up and leaves the room. Thoughts of Ana's vengeful sneer send shivers through Michael's body.

Cut to ... 5 minutes later ...

Michael is now rushing through the trees, coughing and hacking like a cat with a hairball. He pauses by a tree and unloads a mighty payload of vomit (guilt barf!). As it happens, Jack is walking by as Michael's chunder bursts forth.

Michael, displaying Gale-like trickery, uses his weakened state to pleads his case to Jack. Heaving and looking like pathetic incarnate, Michael tells the doctor that the rescue mission needs to go according to his plan. They cannot deviate from the plan. They cannot include more people in the plan. "It's my call and that's the way it has to be," Michael exclaims as little bits of goo spray into the air.

Jack, hoping to get upwind of Michael's breath as quickly as possible, agrees to Michael's demand.

The scene shifts to 13 Days Ago ...

Michael is still in Other captivity, but they've removed the nappy burlap sack that blinded him throughout the early portion of their journey. Night has fallen and Michael is being watched by a small group of Others. The group is clustered around a campfire.

Nearby, footsteps pound through the brush and two figures dart into view: it's The Whizzing Other and a new prisoner. The newbie (who's hooded) looks kinda familiar -- about 5' 3" or 5' 4", athletic build, seems to have an endless supply of form-fitting shirts, never shows any underarm hair growth ... holy crap! It's Kate!

It all becomes clear. The scene we're watching is a "fill-in-the-gap" scene from "The Hunting Party." The Others are about to have their historic run-in with Jack, Sawyer and Locke. The scene that's currently playing out shows us what happens during that run-in.

So here's what happens:

  • Kate is pushed toward the campfire. Surprise spreads across Michael's face and he opens his mouth to speak, but before he can, Zeke leans in and warns that a single peep guarantees Michael will never see Walt again. Michael snaps his mouth shut.

  • Zeke takes a short walk through the dark woods and the scene quickly cuts to the Other encounter we witnessed in "The Hunting Party." It plays out exactly as before: Zeke mysteriously appears near Jack, Sawyer and Locke's campfire; Jack and Sawyer draw their weapons and Sawyer quickly identifies Zeke from their run-in on the raft ("Exodus, Part 2"); Sawyer points his pistol at Zeke's beard, but before he can fire, a gunshot clips Sawyer and sends him spiraling away.

  • The scene cuts back to the Other campfire. Michael hears the gunshot and his eyes grow wide. One of the Other guards -- a girl (more on her in a second) -- sees Michael's concern and says: "It's okay. He's [Zeke] just delivering a message. He has to scare your friends to do it."

  • The "Hunting Party" encounter continues: Jack tells Zeke he doesn't believe the Others have them surrounded; Zeke responds by telling his cohorts to "light 'em up!"; a series of torches ignite in the woods; Zeke barks a new order: "Bring her out, Alex!"

  • Back by the Other campfire, the girl's face drops. She looks at The Whizzing Other and asks him to bring Kate out. "Come on, Alex," the Whizzer says. Alex gets all doe-eyed and innocent and the Whizzer -- who, like Wooderson, is a sucker for those teenaged girls -- relents and moves Kate toward Jack's campfire. As Kate and the Whizzer walk off, Alex spins and unloads a barrage of questions at Michael: "Is Claire Okay? Did she have the baby? is it a boy or a girl?" Michael's mouth is bound, so he doesn't answer, but his face clearly asks: "Who is this chick?"

    Who Is This Chick Sidenote: The girl's name is Alex, and she's the same girl who helped Claire escape the clutches of Evil Ethan back in "Maternity Leave" (hence all the Claire questions). Alex is also Rousseau's long-lost daughter.

    Moving on ...

  • The "Hunting Party" encounter finishes up: Jack, Sawyer and Locke trade their guns for Kate.

  • In a final segment, Zeke returns to the Other campfire. He glances knowingly at Alex. Her shoulders drop and she apologizes to Michael. THWACK! She knocks Michael out with her rifle (somewhere, Locke smiles as the knock-out payback restores order to the Force).
The scene shifts to the Present Day ...

Jack and Sawyer are in Sawyer's tent divvying up the guns and ammo from Sawyer's stash.

Sawyer is feeling chatty (and catty), so he asks Jack what happened with Kate the night the two of them tried to propose a Walt-for-Henry-Gale trade with the Others ("S.O.S.").

Jack tells the truth: "We got caught in a net."

Sawyer misinterprets the phrase: "Is that what they're callin' it these days?"

The moment -- and confusion -- quickly passes. Jack and Sawyer emerge from the tent, armed to the gills. Sayid spots the duo and their stash of guns and runs up to announce that he'll be joining their Other excursion. But Jack puts the kibosh on Sayid's idea, telling him that the Other Army roster is in Michael's hands.

Sawyer's mouth drops. He wisely notes that maybe -- just maybe -- it would be wise to go to war with the one guy on the island who's actually been in a war. To drive home his point, he hands Sayid a pistol. "Welcome aboard," Sawyer smirks.

Jack sulks and walks off to find Kate so they can make out in a net.

The scene shifts to 11 Days Ago ...

The Other platoon walks/drags Michael to their final destination: The Other Camp!

The Other Camp looks exactly as Michael described it in "Two for the Road" -- a series of canvas tents and teepees sits near the beach. Dirty Others mill around wearing old clothing and no shoes. It looks like a set from a post-apocalyptic Kevin Costner movie.

Michael is paraded down Main Street (well, Main Dirt Path). Random Others look on with indifference and/or sneers (it's a colony of Ana-Lucias!). As he's pushed along, Michael sees a heavy metal door built into a beachside cliff. The door is marked with a new Dharma logo. Two armed guards stand watch outside the door.

The Others deposit Michael in front of a canvas hut set near the shore. The Whizzing Other (his name is actually Pickett, but "Whizzing Other" has a better ring to it), sticks a syringe into Michael's arm and draws blood. Michael protests, but the Whizzer ignores his complaints. With the blood drawn, the Whizzer grabs a Zip-Loc bag from his shirt pocket and tosses the filled syringe inside. (Oddly, the Zip-Loc bag did not have a Dharma logo on it).

The blood thing is odd, but it's nothing compared to what happens next.

A woman approaches Michael. She's in her late '20s/early '30s and she's dressed in the same nasty-ass clothing all the Others wear. She tells Michael her name is "Ms. Klugh" (not Ms. Clue -- that would be too obvious), and she has some questions to ask Michael.

Michael's eyes narrow and he gets his "I want my boy!" look. Ms. Klugh begins the interview.

Question No. 1: "Is Walt your biological son?"

Michael: "Bwah? ... uh ... Yes."

Question No. 2: "How old was Walt when he started speaking."

Michael: ".... I .... he ... but ... hmmm ..."

Question No. 3: "Did he have any illnesses growing up? Headaches? Fainting spells?"

Michael: "What? No! ... I ... I wasn't there! He was halfway around the world!"

And now, the big one ...

Question No. 4: "Did Walt ever appear in a place he wasn't supposed to be?"

Michael sets his jaw and stares back at Ms. Klugh. He doesn't answer.

We need to pause a moment to discuss Question No. 4. Early in season 2, Walt was "seen" by Shannon and Sayid at odd moments (like when Shannon and Sayid were about to get it on -- yeah, awkward). In each instance, Walt would show up soaking wet, spouting backwards warnings. In "Man of Science, Man of Faith" he warned Shannon, "Push the button, Don't push the button. Bad." In "Abandoned" he returned to say, "They're coming, and they're close!"

Shannon's death put an end to Walt's wet-backwards appearances, but Question No. 4 now opens new questions about Walt's supernatural abilities. Is he the key to Dharma's research? Was the Cigarette Smoking Man involved in his abduction? Is Walt the next Professor Xavier?

We shall see.

One last Ms. Klugh thing ... her questions cause Michael's temper to flare and he demands to see Walt. Ms. Klugh looks on passively and waits for Michael to stop screaming. When he does, she unloads this Gale-esque mind screw: "For someone who wants his boy back so badly, you don't seem to know much about him, Michael."

Ms. Klugh rises and walks off. Pieces of Michael's brain slide from his ear.

The scene shifts to The Present Day ...

Michael catches wind of Sayid's enlistment in the Other Army, and he doesn't like it one bit. So, being a man of action, he finds Sayid on the beach and tells him he can't join crew. Sayid begins to argue, but Michael stops him cold by appealing to Sayid's emotions. "I know you want to help," Michael says, "but I've got to do this my way."

Sayid (who's a huge Sinatra fan) shakes Michael's hand. "Of course," Sayid says.

Sometime later, Michael wanders down the beach and sees Kate and Hurley digging graves for Ana and Libby. Michael strides up and tells Kate that the Other Army will be leaving first thing tomorrow. He then looks at Hurley and asks if he's coming. Hurley, covered in sweat and overwhelmed by grief, tells Michael he's staying behind.

Michael snaps. In his mind, Hurley has to come. He tries to spur Hurley's vengeance by reminding him that an Other killed Libby (lie!). Hurley stares back.

"Dude, I'm worth $156 million. When we get rescued, I'm gonna buy an ICBM and blow the Others into oblivion, so get off my friggin' back and let me dig this goddamn grave."

(Okay, so that didn't happen. But it should have.)

The scene shifts to Three Days Ago ...

The final backstory segment begins with Michael sitting alone in one of the Others' canvas tents. At this point, Michael has spent the last week tied up and bombarded by an onslaught of Ms. Klugh's questions. His will to fight -- and to live -- is draining with each passing day.

The tent door opens and Ms. Klugh walks in carrying a plate of food. Michael ignores the meal and asks Ms. Klugh when they're finally going to kill him. Ms. Klugh is surprised, but Michael has it all figured out: he knows too much about the Others and, more importantly, he knows where they live. There's no way they're going to let him leave, so death must be imminent.

Not so fast, Mikey.

Ms. Klugh kneels beside Michael and tells him there's "been a development since you came here." She reveals that one of "our people" (Henry Gale) was captured by the castaways and now the Others need Michael to get him back.

Ms. Klugh looks into Michael's eyes. "If you do, we'll let you and Walt go free."

Michael lifts his head. Aggression washes over his face. "I want to see my son!" he shouts. "You bring him in here, right now!"

Ms. Klugh is stunned by Michael's reaction. Moments ago, he was a quivering pile of parental goo, but the prospect of salvation has ignited the fire in Michael's belly. Ms. Klugh calls to her cohorts. The sound of footsteps seeps under the tent door.

"You have three minutes," Ms. Klugh says.

The door opens and in walks ... WALT! And he's not wet! And he's not talking backwards!

Walt is wearing a short-sleeved shirt, shorts and sneakers (the Others don't have a Young Men's line). He appears gaunt and a little weary (and despite what the "Lost" producers have said, he looks way older than 10).

Michael is overwhelmed.

"Walt, are you okay?!" he asks. "Did they hurt you?"

Walt glances at Ms. Klugh, then looks back at Michael.

"They make me take tests," Walt says.

"They make you what?!" Michael shouts.

"We're not going to talk about that," Ms. Klugh cuts in.

"How's Vincent?" Walt asks.

"Vincent? ... He's great ... He misses you," Michael sputters.

Walt winces and looks down.

"Hey! Dont' be scared, man, don't be scared," Michael says. "It's gonna be over real soon, okay? I'm gonna get you out of here, okay?"

Walt pauses.

"They're not who they say they are!" Walt says. "They're pretending!"

"Walt!" Ms. Klugh barks. "Do you want me to put you in the room again?"

"Pretending?" Michael asks. "Pretending what?!"

"That's it, we're done here," Ms. Klugh announces.

The Whizzing Other (who's standing nearby), grabs Walt's arm and marches him toward the door. Michael pleads to let Walt stay. Walt breaks free, then rushes toward Michael and hugs him.

"Dad, help me!" Walt says. "Help me please! Don't leave me!"

The Whizzing Other charges across the room and snatches Walt from Michael.

"Dad! Dad! I love you!" Walt cries as The Whizzing Other swings the tent door open. "I love you!"

"I love you too Walt!" Michael shouts.

Walt's voice fades outside. Michael bows his head and sobs uncontrollably. This is a broken, broken man ... and Ms. Klugh knows it.

She looks down at Michael and tells him there's another part of the deal.

"Whatever you want," Michael cries.

Ms. Klugh pulls out a notepad.

"I'm writing four names down," she says. "Four of your friends. We need you to bring them here. You have to bring only these four people, Michael, just them. If you don't bring all the people on the list ... you'll never see Walt again."

Ms. Klugh kneels in front of Michael.

"What do I tell them?" Michael asks, his chest heaving.

"Doesn't matter," Ms. Klugh says. "Make up a story. They'll be angry enough to believe whatever you say."

Ms. Klugh rips the sheet from the notepad and shows it to Michael.

And suddenly we know why Michael is so anal about the Other Army roster ...

The names are:

  • Jack Shephard
  • Kate Austen
  • Hugo Reyes
  • James Ford (Sawyer)
Michael stops crying. Anger fills his eyes.

"If I do this ..." he says.

"You get your son back ... you both go free," Ms. Klugh says.

Michael glares at Ms. Klugh. The music swells. There's something else ...

"... And I want the boat," Michael growls.

And then it ends!

Point 2






This episode concludes with a funeral ... and a big, bobbing surprise.

At dusk, the castaways assemble at the beachside graveyard. Jack and Sayid walk together toward the group and as they move forward, Jack reflects on the moment. He tells Sayid that he was originally en route to Los Angeles to bury his father, and while he knew he was supposed to go straight from the airport to the funeral, he had no idea what he was going to say at the service.

"Here we are again," Jack says.

Sayid has no time for wussy self reflection. Without missing a beat -- and without offering a segue of any sort -- he tells Jack that Michael has been compromised; the Others got to him.

"His actions are not those of a man who is telling the truth," Sayid says. "I believe he is a father who may do anything for his son. I believe he is leading you into a trap."

"You believe a lot, Sayid," Jack snaps.

"I also believed that Henry Gale was one of them," Sayid says. (Parry. Touche!)

Sayid has a point, and Jack knows it. He asks Sayid what they should do, and Sayid recommends continuing the ruse so they can work in the background to create an advantage. Problem is, Sayid isn't sure how to turn that advantage into a victory.

Alas, the problem will have to be solved later. Right now, the castaways need to dispose of Ana and Libby.

Jack and Sayid join up with the rest of the group and Jack starts the service with a brief reflection on Ana Lucia's life:

"Before we crashed, she was a police officer," Jack says. "I don't think it was easy for her being here. She sneered a lot and she wore that same shirt the entire time. But I think she did the best she could. She was a woman of few words, so I'm going to follow her example. Rest in peace, Ana."

Hurley steps up to deliver Libby's eulogy:

"Libby was a psychologist ... or a psychiatrist ... she was one of those ... she also seemed really familiar to me and I have yet to figure out how we crossed paths ... but I'm sure that'll be addressed in season 3 ... anyway, she probably helped a lot of people ... she helped me ... and she was my friend. [REVENGE-FILLED PAUSE] It's not fair that this happened to her. It's not."

Hurley looks over his shoulder at Michael.

"I'm going with you," Hurley says with anger in his voice.

He turns back toward the group.

"Goodbye Libby."

The assembled bow their heads and think nice thoughts about Libby and try to think nice thoughts about Ana.

But as the group ponders their meager little lives, Sun glances out toward the ocean.

HOLY ... CRAP ...

Sun's eyes pop. Her mouth drops.

"Boat!" she exclaims.

The castaways look up, confused.

"BOAT!" she shouts.

The group turns en masse. One by one, their jaws hit the sand.

The camera frames the water and there, bobbing like a cork in a bathtub, is a small sailboat!

What?! WHAT?!

And then it ends!

(Sidenote: The sailboat appears to be one of those super-robust, travel-'round-the-word models. Hmm ... I wonder if we know anyone who's ever tried to race around the world in a boat?)

Point 3

Claire and Charlie are back on!

But does anybody care?

Don't get me wrong. I think the Claire-Charlie storyline is fine and all, and it led to some wonderful baptism/kidnap moments earlier in the season, but at this point, does anyone give a damn if these two end up together?

Nonetheless, it's my responsibility to reveal the details, so here's what happens on the Claire and Charlie front:

  • Early in the episode, Charlie pays a visit to Claire and Aaron. Claire is initially standoffish (understandable, since Charlie tried to kidnap Aaron and he lied about that whole heroin thing), but she softens when Charlie surprises her with ... a vaccination kit?

    Charlie says he found the kit in the recent food drop ("Dave") and he thought it might be useful for the baby. And since he's such a great guy, he tested the immunization medicine on himself.

    Let me repeat that: He tested the immunization medicine on himself.

    I guarantee this will factor into a future plot development. The "sickness" thing that's been floating around since the early days of season 1 has never been fully addressed, so the sudden appearance -- and use -- of immunizations has to hint at an important future storyline. It has to. Why else would the producers go out of their way to introduce a new immunization kit?

  • Story structure aside, Claire is touched by Charlie's gesture. You can see the ice melting from her veins. "Every Kiss begins with Dharma ..."

  • And in a final illustration of the rekindled burnin' and yearnin' between these two, Claire holds Charlie's hand during the funeral. Charlie is quite pleased with this development.
Point 4


In other Charlie news ...

Charlie spends the early moments of the episode searching for his church-building buddy Eko. He eventually finds him camped out at the hatch computer. At first, Charlie is cordial ("You wake up in the middle of the night. You grab your Jesus Stick. You race off into the jungle. You don't call. You don't write."), but when Eko reveals that he's abandoning the church and moving into the hatch, Charlie reacts like a spurned lover. He throws a mini-fit, then leaves the hatch in a huff.

Later in the episode, Charlie opts to continue building the church on his own, but the process is considerably tougher without Eko. At one point, as he's struggling to install a roof beam, Vincent bounds up to Charlie. He drops a blue object at Charlie's feet.

"You're kidding, right?" Charlie scoffs.

It's a Virgin Mary statue!

Vincent runs back toward the beach and Charlie follows. The intrepid lab nuzzles into Sawyer's tent and paws at Sawyer's secret stash. Charlie looks down and sees the remaining statues.

But then Charlie does something completely different. He takes the statues down the beach and throws each and every one of them into the ocean. When he comes to the final statue, he gazes at it for a moment, then hauls off and chucks it into the briny depths. It's a big moment for Chuckie. He's battling his demons on his own terms, and it seems like he's winning. It's just too bad the tide will bring all those statues floating back in 12 hours.

Nonetheless, Charlie is pleased with himself. As he gathers up his belongings he turns and notices that Locke is sitting alone further down the beach. Disdain crosses Charlie's face. Locke squints back.

Is a showdown coming? Is a reunion coming?

Point 5


Sawyer and Jack shared an interesting moment this week.

At one point, the pair are alone in the hatch, going over their guns and ammunition supplies in preparation for the Other attack. As they lube and oil and check their weapons, Sawyer wistfully talks about Ana-Lucia.

"I never even knew her last name," Sawyer says.

"Cortez," Jack replies.

"Cortez ... well there ya go," Sawyer says. [LONG GUY PAUSE] "I screwed her."

Jack looks up from his lube job.

"What?!" he asks/exclaims.

"That's how she got my gun," Sawyer says. "We, uh, 'got caught in a net.'"

And here's where it gets interesting ...

Jack asks: "Why are you telling me this, Sawyer."

"'Cause you're about the closest thing I've got to a friend, doc," Sawyer says. "And because she's gone."

If they had gloves and a baseball, they'd have a catch.

Unfortunately, guns and violence will have to do. Sawyer snaps out of his self-reflection and cocks his rifle.

"At least now we get to kill somebody," he snarls.

Point 6
Island I'll conclude a with a few bits and pieces from this episode:
  • As far as I can tell, neither Locke nor Eko tell any of the castaways about their dramatic findings from last week. What's wrong with these people?

  • Rose's prediction that Locke would heal faster than expected appears to have come true. Toward the end of this episode, Locke cuts off his splint and leaves his crutches behind.

  • Interactive Game Update: The Hanso ad that aired during this week's episode included two pieces of new information: The sponsor was Jeep (last week it was Sprite) and the new Web site is

    You can find all sorts of additional Interactive Game information on our separate game clues page.

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Next Episode:
"Live Together, Die Alone (Parts 1 and 2)" -- Jack and Sayid whip up a plan to take on the Others in the second season finale. Airs: Wednesday, May 24, 9 p.m., ABC.

Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc.

Posted by Mac Slocum on May 18, 2006 11:55 AM |

how is it a first, maternity leave and the other 48 days do the same thing

#1. Posted by: super at May 18, 2006 12:01 PM

Great Recap this week but I wanted to point out that the last Claire episode was actually the first episode with flashbacks on the island.

#2. Posted by: master of kaioken at May 18, 2006 12:02 PM

You're right! That paragraph will be stricken from the record. Thanks for the catch! -- Mac

#3. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 12:03 PM

Great recap mac. I havent read it yet, but comon you wrote it so im sure its good.

Of course leave it up to my main man sayeed to be the one person on the island with more than a half wits amount of common sence. I always tell people that "common sence" isent very, i guess that goes for lost as well. Im glad someone noticed how Michel was acting, i was afraid that the writers where going to leave us hanging for the entire off season.

#4. Posted by: Cory at May 18, 2006 12:16 PM

MAC - Awesome job as always, I'm not done reading your recap but I had to answer one of your questions: the thing the bearded guy threw at Michael is called a Bolo. It's a primitive weapon created i think in South America a long time ago, very useful for snaring small to medium sized animals and crazed fathers of kidnap victims. Gotta go, more reading to do.

#5. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at May 18, 2006 12:16 PM

I believe Zeke's swinging, Michael-snaring weapon must have been a bolo tie. :P

#6. Posted by: Trinity at May 18, 2006 12:16 PM

Here Mac,
I found this:

#7. Posted by: Sabrina at May 18, 2006 12:18 PM

Mac, Great review as usual!

The questions Mrs. Klugh (clue) whatever..are the SAME questions asked by Michael's ex's lawyer before the flight. Word -for- word! WTF??

#8. Posted by: Scott at May 18, 2006 12:19 PM

I loved the episode. But I gotta say, Jorge Garcia blew it. He blew his scene. When he stepped up to deliver that eulogy, I thought "this is Jorge's moment to step up and join the ranks as a heavy dramatic actor." But the scene was almost emotionless, and left me disappointed. The moment was soaked in dramatics, but the acting fell flat. Oh, well. Still a great episode. And while I'm in "bitching" mode....WHAT'S UP WITH NEXT SEASON'S SCHEDULE?! An 11-week break in the middle?! Unbelievable.

#9. Posted by: KG at May 18, 2006 12:24 PM

Mac, great review as usual. You forgot to include Locke walking down the beach (away from the funeral) after he cuts off the splint. Where is he going? This could be a major setup.

#10. Posted by: Asher at May 18, 2006 12:25 PM

Only key point I'd say you missed:

"For someone who wants his boy back so badly, you don't seem to know much about him, Michael."

This marks the *second* time Michael has heard that sentence. The first was in season one, when he heard it during the custody battle for Walt.

#11. Posted by: Lex at May 18, 2006 12:26 PM

2 questions.

1) Who takes a random immunization without knowing what it is for?

2) Could someon please clarify the "Hunting Party" scene? When Sawyer says "thats the guy that shot me" I thought he then fired his gun. To me, it appeared that the bullet bounced off some sort of forcefield, but Mac's review said it was one of the others that shot and grazed him. Anyone agree/disagree.

#12. Posted by: Charlie Salinger at May 18, 2006 12:26 PM

Ah yes, the force field debate. This was discussed significantly after the "Hunting Party" first aired.

If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong), I think the conlcusion was that Sawyer did *not* fire (we never see a muzzle blast, even in slow-motion) and the gunshot did *not* ricochet, it just sounded that way. The shot we heard was from an unseen Other.

Or mabye Zeke was surrounded by a force field ;) -- Mac

#13. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 12:29 PM

I tried going to the website from the commerical last night. I guess I don't have the proper software because it says, "Please download the latest flash pulgin here. Thank you and Namaste." What does Namaste mean??

#14. Posted by: Shannon at May 18, 2006 12:31 PM

can i just say wow i luaghed when you said she wore the same top every day lol cant wait for next week also GO charlie!!!!!!!!!!!!! luv ya

#15. Posted by: hayley at May 18, 2006 12:32 PM

Excellent review and episode. I have to comment on the Other's influence on people by force and exploitation. We all know Alex is doing all she can to mess up the Others plans, yet at a word from Zeke, she has to riflebutt Michaels head. Notice she says "Sorry" before doing it, JUST LIKE MICHAEL says before doing what he has to do. They do not want to do ANY OF THIS, but under duress they have to.

#16. Posted by: brich at May 18, 2006 12:34 PM

Wasn't the Tailies story set just on the island?

#17. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at May 18, 2006 12:34 PM

Thanks for the recap, really funny!
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!! I knew Michael was not brainwashed and that he was lying the whole time. We finally get to see what typed on the computer and I think it easy to see that it really wasn't Walt telling him where to go, it was the others and they were waiting for him. Again I think there is only one group of others, they are "pretending". So here are the big questions that stood out to me, we probably don't have the answers but I'd love see everybody's take on them, since I always get new insight when I read your.

1. When the other captured Michael and Kate in the clearing, the leader (can't remember name) was talking to Michael, saying things like "gag him". Didn't Kate hear, couldn't she assume that they had caught Michael - she was sitting 2 feet away. Side note: I love that Alex is back and that she asks about Claire and the baby

2. Why do the others say they "need" Michael when they first capture him. The Losties hadn't captured Henry until after the other had Michael. Did they need him for something else and does it have something to do with the blood.

3. Could anyone see the symbol on the new hatch, which one was it?

4. Why do the others want those four Losties, I kind of get Jack, Sawyer, and Kate, but Hurly? Why????

5. So Walt is special and has appeared in places he should not have been before the crash. Creepy - I wonder how that will play out.

6. And finally where is Locke going? I was honestly surprised that he has lost faith in the almighty button, didn't it occur to him the video is staged and that the Swan video said the button came in to play after the incident, it wasn't part of the original experiment. Or how Eko's dream led them to the other hatch - old Locke would have taken that as a sign.

The boat at the end looked like it was drifting there, looked to me like a trap and thank god for Sayid, without him we would all be lost . . .

#18. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 12:35 PM

Am I the only one who thought that one of the Others at the camp looked exactly like (a slightly younger version of) Ethan? For some reason, that popped out at me IMMEDIATELY.
Also, I have my suspicions that Walt may have been "acting", having been told what to say by the Others to ensure that Michael would be motivated to carry out his task. He didn't seem sincere to me, but maybe it's just the actor's limited capability. It also seemed to me like he looked at Ms.Klugh before talking, as if to get a cue from her.
Anyone agree?

#19. Posted by: Sabrina at May 18, 2006 12:36 PM

I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that Namaste sort of means, "Peace be with you." I've heard it used in my yoga class as a closing remark.

#20. Posted by: Amanda at May 18, 2006 12:37 PM

[broken record alert]

I know a lot of other people have said this, but I really look forward to your reviews every week. They are witty and well done. I feel like the episode isn't over until I have read your recap!

Back to work now, boss is giving me dirty looks.

#21. Posted by: cayla at May 18, 2006 12:38 PM

Very funny review, Mac! "Jack remains clueless to the waft of smoke emanating from Michael's hand." had me rolling!!

Could someone clear something up for me? In Hunting Party, when Sawyer, Locke, and Jack are in the jungle, they hear gunshots, and thats when they meet up with Zeke (AT NIGHT), but in this episode, we see that the gunshots were from the struggle between Michael and Zeke, in the is there a continuity problem here, or am I crazy?

Also, I was wondering why Hurley didn't think something was up when Michael called him Hugo, since no one but Jack knew that was Hurley's real name, right? Maybe Jack told Michael at some point. Also, when Michael looked at the list, he asked Mrs. Klugh who James Ford was, but not Hugo Reyes, so I guess he knew already.
And the fact that no one thinks Michael is acting really strange except Sayid is preposterous! ESPECIALLY since he didn't want Sayid to go, who is the best fighter there.

#22. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 12:38 PM

Nothing new to add about the episode last night, except to say....Mac, GREAT review. I can't pick the funniest line of all, but some of my favorites were: "thankfully, he's done whizzing", "Jack, hoping to get upwind of Michael's breath as quickly as possible, agrees to Michael's demand" , "Michael is paraded down Main Street (well, Main Dirt Path)". Too many more to list! I was laughing so hard my coworkers thought I was sniffing laughing gas for lunch. Well done, Mac!!!

#23. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 12:41 PM

Anyone else see the freeze frames from the preview for the finale with Jin and Sayid on the Boat?? how about Everyone standing around about a million of those tubes used in "the pearl" to send the data........
Good times

#24. Posted by: HIHI at May 18, 2006 12:41 PM


As always, very good job.

Where was Locke going at the end? I believe he, along with Sayid, will save the day. I just want to see 4or5 of the others get their butts shot off.

Desmund has got to be in the boat. He tried to get away but that darn island has such a way of bringing people back.

#25. Posted by: Gerard at May 18, 2006 12:46 PM

firstly - i was thinking about what dr clue said about walt - maybe not so much supernatural but cloning instead? I read all of the posts - so I dont think this came up before.

called a boleo (or bolo) or something like that - it is what the old man wings at mikey.

also - the boat does not look like a long range racer. More like a bigger day cruise or for some short haul racing (like afew days).

finally - for your guidance most tides are diurnal in nature (meaning that in 6 and not 12 hours the drugs will be coming back in). There are two hi and lo tides per 24 hour period. Again this my not apply for the lost island.

sorry to geek out

#26. Posted by: lost at work at May 18, 2006 12:50 PM

best line: "every kiss begins with dharma..." i actually read it with the tune (in my head) love it

#27. Posted by: steph at May 18, 2006 12:50 PM

Another point: Wasn't Mrs. Klugh the face in Eko's smoke monster images?

#28. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 12:51 PM

Mac, you are THE BEST!
OK, I am probably getting nit-picky here...but I have been rewatching the first season DVD and early on when those nasty wild boars were scavenging in the fuselage, the losties decided to burn the fuselage with all of the dead crash victims because, as Jack says, "No body will stay buried with these boars around". OK, so why did they bury and not burn AL, Libby, Shannon,...& Boone?
We never see those boars anymore do we?

Yeah, Walt has changed a bit.. (You can make it as dark in the tent as you like-he still looks 14!)
Puberty must have hit during that week or so he was gone!

#29. Posted by: Tazbee at May 18, 2006 12:53 PM

Sawyer must spend a lot of time thinking up nicknames for Hurley. I laghed my ass off at the whole "Grape Ape" line.

#30. Posted by: Cory at May 18, 2006 12:55 PM

Did we see the entire seen from begining to end when Charlie had knocked out Sun? I can't remember. They often leave out some scenes to bring out in later episodes. If he was compromised due to Erin being kidnapped maybe he was asked by the Others to bring Sun to them. That is still possible. Just as Michael was asked to make a trade for Walt. We didn't find that out until last night. Still I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to clone Erin and use Sun as a host. Because, remember back when Claire was being held hostage and they were doing some kind of procedure during her pregnancy. Possible or not?

#31. Posted by: L _ GeeZee at May 18, 2006 12:57 PM

When the Others brought Michael into their "fake" camp, I really thought it looked like a cheesy movie set or something. Of course, I know about the costumes and Michael doesn't. So he wasn't suspicious, but I really was thinking, "Geez. How much more fake could this look?" It was like right before they walked into camp, someone had shouted, "Action!" and they all took their places.

I really couldn't tell whether Walt's outburst about them "pretending" was scripted or not. My husband thinks it was planned. I'm not so sure.

I have a theory that the "Others" do not live on the island full-time. They come and go, and that's why Rousseau has not been able to find Alex all this time. The Others aren't always on the island.

#32. Posted by: Amanda at May 18, 2006 1:02 PM

I also want to know why Kate wouldn't hear Zeke say "If you make a sound, you'll never see your boy again." Seems kinda obvious they had Michael.

#33. Posted by: JJ at May 18, 2006 1:05 PM

Great recap - one intrersting note

When Ms Klugh says to Michael -

"For someone who wants his boy back so badly, you don't seem to know much about him, Michael."

It occurred to me that this was the exact dialogue the lawyer said to Michael in Michaels recap episode from Season one. Same words, same inflection, verbatim. Makes me wonder if Michaels mom was somehow involved with Dharma.

#34. Posted by: Rick at May 18, 2006 1:06 PM

I love your recaps Mac...always have me laughing. One thing I wanted to point out was Zeke saying "prepare the torches." Meaning "get the extra torches out there so it looks like we have more people than we really do." There were only about 5-6 Others with Michael, and when the torches were finally lit, there were about double that (torches not people of course). Just thought this was interesting. Look forward to your recap of the season finale!

#35. Posted by: tiny at May 18, 2006 1:08 PM

MAC - you the man. And have been part of my Thursday morning routine. Not to bash, but your amazing wit and humor felt like it was drying up on a few of the last episodes, but today you are back to full force, much like Obi-Locke is back to his sitting on the beach omni-potent mode.

"The Whizzing Other (his name is actually Pickett, but "Whizzing Other" has a better ring to it)"

Great stuff. I also want to note that to the best of my knowledge. Except for the pilot episode we have never seen Charlie use heroin on the island. I am a firm believer that he hasn't.

#36. Posted by: Stephen at May 18, 2006 1:09 PM

No no no no, bad writing (not you Mac) I am sorry Michael may have been a "broken man" and irrational but he was not programed or tortured nearly enough to turn him into a cold blooded killer. I just do not buy that he wants "his boy back" so bad that he would murder two innocent women.

Having said that, I think Sawyer (mr subtle) saying "I screwed her" was pretty funny. I really hope Michael doesn't make it to season three. he has become a completely unsympathetic charachter.

#37. Posted by: D LostinBoston at May 18, 2006 1:11 PM

Sayid's a huge Sinatra fan...and the Hurley quotes...all classics! Great and hilariously entertaining review as usual Mac.

Once and for all, I believe there is only one set of Others, as confirmed by Walt when he said that they are not who they say they are, they're pretending. This is also reinforced by Zeke's makeup that Kate found, and the fact that we've seen Zeke sans makeup when he wasn't 'pretending'.

Future conversation between Sawyer and Kate:

Sawyer: So I heard you and Jack got caught in a net.
Kate: Yeah we did. It's a good thing I was able to get ahold of Jack's gun.
Sawyer: Now Freckles, I don't need the sordid details!
Kate: I gave it back to him though...he had the better angle...
Sawyer: Freckles please!
Kate: What? You could've been caught in one of Rousseu's traps just as easily!
Sawyer: Huh?
Kate: It was all my fault. I should've known better.
Sawyer: (Relieved) You mean you really did get caught in a net?
Kate: What the hell did you think I meant?
Sawyer: Nevermind...

Mark my words, some cheesy Lost dialogue coming our way!

#38. Posted by: JoePike at May 18, 2006 1:12 PM

Stephen -- The wit comes and goes (I think it goes more often than it comes ...), but it's just one of those things that happens on its own terms. I learned a long time ago not to force it, so there will undoubtedly be times when I just play it straight.

Glad to know you enjoyed the latest review, though!

-- Mac

#39. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 1:13 PM

once again, great review have a gift bro! and guys, let's give mac a break and not be so nitpicky about every little mistake he makes!!

"namaste" is a hindu word and it means hello. "dharma" too has a hindi background as budha himself was born a hindu.

someone mentioned about the gunshots in hunting party being at night...jack et al actually heard the gunshots during the day so there is no mistake by the producers there. what i was wondering is, they found the slugs in a very foresty area but we see the gunshots actually took place in an open area??? please correct me if i am wrong.

i could not believe it when saywer called jack a friend!! what a turn of events!!!

obviously it is desmond on the boat as we all know he is to appear in the season finale.

i was getting so frustrated that no one was questioning michaels insistance to leave right away when he earlier had said that after he regains his strength they would go looking for his boy. jack of all the people should know that someone who has been shot cannot be strong enough in what, two days?

KG, i agree with you about Jorge's acting. I was disappointed too that he didn't pull off an emmy-nominating performance. oh well!

i can't wait for the finale and the "war" but it will be so sad to not look forward to a new episode for a long time!

thanks once again mac!

#40. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 1:13 PM

I believe when Mistress Clue was asking if Walt ever appeared even though he was far away, was more a reference to season one when he appeared in the middle of the street and caused Michael's accident

#41. Posted by: S at May 18, 2006 1:15 PM

Couldn't the boat be unmanned?

#42. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 1:18 PM

Anyone think Vincent's also been compromised by the Other's? He's acting really suspicious.....;)

#43. Posted by: Joss at May 18, 2006 1:19 PM

S: ?? I don't remember that at all! Michael's accident was being hit by a brown sedan (which some have surmised to have been Kate driving the marshall's stolen vehicle).

I think Walt appearing in a place he shouldn't be is a form of astral projection. No, not the band. The new age, out of body experience thing. I've heard of some people being able to do it.

I agree with you guys about Jorge Garcia's eulogy. He looked more constipated than sad.

#44. Posted by: Trinity at May 18, 2006 1:20 PM

forgot to mention, the others wanted michael so they could question him about walt and find out more about him. its quite obvious that they are really intrigued by this amazing kid and want to know as much as they can. that is why they wanted michael alive.

JoePike, that sounded exactly like what kate and sawyer would sound like...are you sure you are not one of the writers?!!!

i was always insisting that there was only one group of others but nobody would listen...i hope they listen to sayid!!

#45. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 1:21 PM

we have a boat...but is it big enough!

#46. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 1:23 PM

Very good review and funny as well. I am going to have to quit reading at work because I kept laughing out loud. Loved the lines "Michael just caught him dangling his Dharma device" and "If they had gloves and a baseball, they'd have a catch." That is my favorite movie scene ever and it was so appropriate for this scene. I think that maybe the others want Hurley because they want to study the bad luck associated with him using the numbers. Crazy guess, but not much worse than some others. Looking forward to the next show...

#47. Posted by: Amy at May 18, 2006 1:25 PM're right, we're gonna need a bigger boat.

By the way, how come they haven't rewound the tapes in the Pearl? Maybe people in purgatory don't show up on video, just like vampires. : )

#48. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 1:27 PM

I thought I saw someone who looked alot like Desmond in the Others camp. As Mikey is led into the 'camp' a fellow with greasy, longish hair has his face turned away but looks so familiar.....

#49. Posted by: Joss at May 18, 2006 1:28 PM

I think they use Betamax in purgatory, so there could be compatibility issues ;)

#50. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 1:28 PM

Does anyone else think that they took Michael's blood for a paternity test? Maybe he isn't Walt's father at all...and that's why Walt's mom didn't want Michael to have anything to do with him. If Michael isn't the father...who is?

#51. Posted by: J-Rod at May 18, 2006 1:30 PM


#52. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 1:30 PM

In addition to Walt's other many talents, he types with super human speed...

#53. Posted by: madiera at May 18, 2006 1:32 PM

Namaste is how people greet eachother in Nepal. They fold their hands in front and say it. Not sure what it means, but it's a version of hello, and peace be with you.

I am intersted in Alex. I felt that the look that Zeke gave her at first was a bit suspicious. As if Alex really wanted to get Michael alone for a minute to ask about Claire, and that Zeke realizes that she isn't fully on their side. I wonder if Alex knows about her mom, and perhaps that is also used as a threat as it was with Michael.

#54. Posted by: Meg at May 18, 2006 1:32 PM

Mac, I have such a huge crush on you! Even in your comments you keep the humor coming.

#55. Posted by: tiny at May 18, 2006 1:33 PM

Thanks Tiny! Thankfully, purgatory and Betamax jokes never get old ;)

#56. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 1:35 PM

I cant believe no one has commented about Desmond being in the scene at the Others camp ground. Its just a quick shot, but its him.

#57. Posted by: bcook at May 18, 2006 1:36 PM

Just a thought, how many people have been knocked out on this show at least on cast memer per show gets a rifle butt, fist, jesus stick or something to the skull, someone would have had a fatal concusion by now, just a show
I guess, I'd like to know the two season total for "Knock outs"

#58. Posted by: D LostinBoston at May 18, 2006 1:39 PM

Which scene is Desmond in? I want to go back and look for him. Can someone post a screen shot?

#59. Posted by: Amanda at May 18, 2006 1:39 PM

Sorry to post again so soon, but in response to Hurley's acting I just want to note that it seemed in character for him to do such a lousy job speaking. Think about how insecure he is and how verbally challenged he seems to be. Every other word is "dude" or something of that sort, not the kind of emotionally charged talk one would expect for a funeral.
Did anyone else note that when Hurley seemed to be vague about what she did (psychiatrist or psychologist, or something) it played along with the fact they don't really seem to know anything about each other. Sawyer didn't know Ana's last name. Michael doesn't know a lot about Walt, and they are all uncommunicative.

#60. Posted by: Meg at May 18, 2006 1:40 PM

give us time, bcook, this blog was initiatiated only an hour ago...

#61. Posted by: DonnaD at May 18, 2006 1:41 PM


seriously, right now -- that is exactly what I am doing. i may get fired, but who cares!!!

#62. Posted by: BELost at May 18, 2006 1:43 PM

Are we 100% sure that Michael is Walt's real Father????????????

#63. Posted by: J-Rod at May 18, 2006 1:45 PM

My seniors were taking exams and I laughed out loud during it. Bad Mac for being so funny (more like bad me for reading this during class!)

#64. Posted by: Meg at May 18, 2006 1:46 PM

Lay off ol' Jorge. He was perfectly in character at the eulogy. Hurley has never been the most eloquent of characters. To have him suddenly spout off an emmy nominated soliloquy would have seemed completely out of place. The scene was perfect as it was.

Still don't get why the others would need Michael to get Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hugo. Why can't they just take them as they have with everyone else in the past? They seemed to have no problem in season one with invading the losties' camp at will.

I actually did feelsympathetic for Michael last night. I don't get why he couldn't tell the "four most wanted" the truth. Klugh said he could tell them whatever he wanted. If he told Jack et al. that he needed them in order to get his kid back, don't you think they would have done anything they could to help?

#65. Posted by: crispy seaplane at May 18, 2006 1:48 PM

Is it just me or does anybody else think CHARLIE IS AN OTHER?

I mean come on, he just HAPPENS to find the exact thing Claire was going nuts over just a few eps ago and out of everyone on the island, he just HAPPENS to pick her to give it to? I don't buy it.

I think Charlie's gone native. He's joined up with the Others who told him to give the vaccine to Claire and the baby because she escaped and they can't get it to Aaron any other way.

I don't believe this is a coincidence... not for one second.

#66. Posted by: Paul at May 18, 2006 1:53 PM

Great review as always.

The only common denominator I can come up with for the four on the list is as follows:

A- Jack sees his dad in the jungle
B- Kate sees a horse
C- Hurley sees his imaginary friend who leaves a very real shoe behind.
D- Sawyer hears the final words of the guy he shot in Austraila.

Yeah, I know that some other folks have heard the voices in the jungle but I don't know if it was anything personal like what Sawyer heard.
As best as I can remember nobody else has had these types of encounters.

#67. Posted by: Ignatius at May 18, 2006 2:00 PM

Incidentally, did anyone notice how they made a big deal about AL's last name and then in the funeral, only Libby's first name was used? I tend to think that they made the big deal about AL's last name to highlight the fact that we don't know Libby's. I may be rehashing here, but if Hurley has the plane's manifest, why wouldn't he know her last name? She is one of the few characters that doesn't have a last name (see's list of characters). I'm still convinced there is a lot more to the Libby story that we are going to learn in coming seasons. My theory...she's awfully close to the root of all things Dharma. I think we'll find out her last name in seasons to come and lightbulbs will go off.

PS. Anyone know where can I buy season 1 on Betamax?

#68. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 2:07 PM

Great review mac. I have several people at the office hooked now. Every Thursday we come to work and read your post before we discuss the episode.

This may be the lamest questions on today's post, but I am not recalling why this week's episode would be called "3 minutes". Help me out.

#69. Posted by: ydnewc1 at May 18, 2006 2:11 PM

Cuz Mrs. Clue Klugh told Michael he had 3 minutes with Walt.

#70. Posted by: JoePike at May 18, 2006 2:13 PM

ydnewc1 -- Not a lame question at all. Three minutes is the amount of time Michael and Walt were given to talk to each other.

#71. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 2:13 PM

the 'second' is up...Charlie is NOT an Other...

#72. Posted by: DonnaD at May 18, 2006 2:13 PM

Geeze Mac, your reply about the 3 minute question was so much more eloquent than mine!

Nah, Charlie's not an Other. He had it put into his Driveshaft contract that he could never be coerced by a crazy island cult.

#73. Posted by: JoePike at May 18, 2006 2:15 PM

It's going to be a long summer without Mac's reviews. Sigh. Anyway, I really think that they are building something up about Jack's dad. The comment Jack made to Sayid about going to L.A. to bury his father seemed to come out of nowhere (I know they were on their way to the funeral, but still). Jack's dad also ties more of the characters together than anyone else (unless I am just blanking out right now).

#74. Posted by: Summer at May 18, 2006 2:16 PM

Duh!! I promise I am usually a lot quicker than that. Thanks for clearing it up for me though.

#75. Posted by: ydnewc1 at May 18, 2006 2:18 PM

Anyone think Mrs. Klugh is the leader of the Others?? The one Henry was talking about.

#76. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 2:24 PM

Also, the countdown was at 3 minutes during Ecko's conversation with Charlie in the hatch. It appeared over Ecko's shoulder while he was sitting at the computer.

#77. Posted by: mcarbone241 at May 18, 2006 2:25 PM

desmond could be on that boat :D

#78. Posted by: skandalouz at May 18, 2006 2:29 PM

I thought Eko asking Charlie to "please bring me my things" was great, and then Charlie's response, "Get them yourself" was perfect. Sad to see them break up!

So Eko is now the official button man... I am dying to see the scene between Eko and Locke next week, and possibly the proof of something I and other people suggested, that the magnet is pulling planes in.

Wasn't it interesting that the magnet started to 'kick in' at 3 minutes, lifting Eko's cross up? There are clearly going to be some BIG results when that sucker is not pushed, maybe even bring in a new planeload of people for season 3!

#79. Posted by: The Duf at May 18, 2006 2:32 PM

yeah maybe mary oh-er wait MS klugh didn't gale say "he" would kill him

#80. Posted by: style-z at May 18, 2006 2:32 PM

The magnetism in the hatch is somewhat puzzling. Like suddenly the metal in Eko's cross is cleary being drawn to something like a magnet. When and why does it start and stop? Also, why don't we see countless other items being drawn likewise? That strength of magnetism would screw the h___ out computers, tapes, etc. (Instructions on my Betamax: Keep away from magnets.)

"E.E. Cummings chatter..." thanks, you crack me up, mac.

#81. Posted by: JT at May 18, 2006 2:35 PM

A couple of comments about the boat -

1) Could the Others be showing Michael a sign of "Good Faith" by providing him with a boat (ie, make it more enticing for him to bring them the fantastic four)?

2) If Desmond is on the boat, maybe he ran out of the vaccine and became sick - Jack takes him back to the hatch and maybe this is how we get his backstory in the hatch..

#82. Posted by: dknight at May 18, 2006 2:46 PM

lol great review, esp igmrmpijclhnhuapaihorroetoncm; rotflmao !!!

syed did well to realise what mike did, as for the finals im sure not pressing the numbers must pull things onto the island, if so whose really doing the inputting as that scottish guy never missed a shift

#83. Posted by: adam at May 18, 2006 2:50 PM

Gale definitely referred to the leader as "He".

Do you think it could be Desmond on the boat? Maybe he was trying to get away from the vampires in purgatory?

#84. Posted by: crispy seaplane at May 18, 2006 2:54 PM

Your right style-z, I had forgotten that Henry acually said "he will kill me". She still seems like the leader of the others to me, maybe Henry was refering to a different "he" maybe someone at hanso

#85. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 2:54 PM

JoePike - great point about Michael not being Walt's father, I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense.

Anyone wonder why Locke all of a sudden gets upset at Eko's belief that that button-pushing is their destiny, that they are "supposed" to do it, when all Locke used to talk about was his faith and destiny, and that the Island wants him to do this or that. Why the change of heart?

#86. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 2:57 PM

Is is possible that when Michael's blood was being taken it was for a paternity test? The others obviously have doubts as to whether Michael is Walt's father.

As far as the Other's showing "good faith", I just don't see it. They have what Michael wants, there's no reason for them to have to prove they will do what he wants. Did they ever even agree to give him the boat?

#87. Posted by: Stacy at May 18, 2006 3:04 PM

Interesting when Michael is told that his people had captured one of the Others, that they didn't discuss what HG's reason for being out there alone was. HG claimed it was because he was sent to bring back Locke, but Michael is sent to bring back four other people (not including Locke). Does this mean that we can basically confirm that HG was lying about his mission to bring back Locke?

#88. Posted by: mcarbone241 at May 18, 2006 3:04 PM

"Namaste" literally means "I bow before you." It's sort of a catchall hello/goodbye/thank you/aloha/cheers sort of word.

Also, regarding Michael being a cold-blooded killer who murdered 2 women, remember that Libby was an accident. Now, he may be leading 4 other people to their deaths (as far as he knows) so that's a little odd. But no one talks to each other on this show anyways (as Meg pointed out). I can't believe Locke and Eko aren't speaking up about the fact that there's a camera in their hatch!

#89. Posted by: Mark at May 18, 2006 3:05 PM

Strange, my comments have disappeared.

Any reason?

They were: There's no mention of the fact that Zeke/Beardy told Jack et al "Michael will never find us" and then went back and told Michael "Your friends have thrown down their weapons and abandoned you." This means a great deal in terms of Michael's mind-set.

I'm curious as to why my comment was erased.

#90. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 3:07 PM

Thoughts on next week's episode.

Desmond is in the boat, Sayid and Jin use the boat to try and pull a surprise attack from the water, while Michael leads Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley to the others.

I think the others will be long gone though when Michael and the gang show up. They might have used him to lure the strongest away from the main group. That is when they plan to take Aaron & Sun (possibly Claire too).

And in the middle of all of this Locke confronts Eko about the Hatch and the button. Somehow Locke tricks Eko or prevents him from pushing the button. The countdown begins and boom, something is unleashed on the island. Maybe an explanation of why the plane went down ties into this pushing button thing. Does another plane crash from Locke not pushing the button, could be the new "Us versus Them" explanation for next season.

Who knows, I'm just guessing. I'm really curious about Libby though. It is a shame we have to wait on her story.


#91. Posted by: Rick at May 18, 2006 3:09 PM

1. Blood test - paternity test. Obvious.
2. Yeah, why aren't Locke and Eko speaking up? Especially Locke. You'd think he of all people would want to blow the lid on this operation.
However, my guess is that because of the weird time warps on this show (ie. Michael's only been gone 13 days, but we haven't seen him for 4 months) that Locke is probably decompressing from the big revelation. Maybe when we see him get up and walk (and leaving behind a perfectly good pair of crutches - the waste on this island astonishes me) maybe he's headed to tell the truth or hook up with Eko to see what they should do next.

Also, remember that Locke didn't share the original hatch with anyone but Boone and then only because Boone wouldn't leave well enough alone.

#92. Posted by: Jerk-a-loo at May 18, 2006 3:11 PM

The button was not pushed twice before and nothing happened (except the food drop, if thats connected), so why would anything happen this time?

#93. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 3:12 PM

Rick, I agree with you entirely.

While I'm sure the final episode will reveal big surprises, I think that ultimately what you've predicted is really the only way the main thrust of the narrative can go.

Thrust of the narrative... I couldn't resist. Sorry.

#94. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 3:13 PM

Mr. Pants -- There are three scenarios under which a comment can be deleted.

1. A commenter posted under multiple identities (see comment warning No. 3).

2. The comment was crude, abrasive, or employed a ridiculous "name" (e.g. "The Jerk-A-Loo" - This kind of thing drags the overall quality of the blog down and I've got no time for it.)

2. During a "pruning" (something I have to do from time to time) a comment could inadvertently be deleted.

If your comment was deleted under scenario 1 or 2, please adhere to the comment warnings in the future. If it was scenario 2, please accept my apologies for the mistake.

-- Mac

P.S. I have backups of all comments, so if you feel your comment was deleted in error, drop me a line directly at and I can reinstate it.

#95. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 3:14 PM

So lets talk about Desmond being an Other. Did anyone see him sitting in the Others camp with that sinister look on his face. Maybe he was thinking "the hatch was like the Hilton compared to this dump, were is my boat i need to get out of here".

#96. Posted by: bcook at May 18, 2006 3:15 PM

mcarbone241 - I don't think that means HG was lying (doesn't mean he was telling to truth either, he could have just been messing with Locke) But not surprised they wouldn't talk about it, everything they do is so cryptic. If HG was telling the truth, then he failed his mission and the others wouldn't want him sitting around spilling his guts about the island, so they had to get him back. I also doubt they ever had intentions of giving Walt back since he is so important to them. Thats why it makes me so mad that Michael is willing to kill 2 people and deliver 4 more back and be recaptured.

"I want the boat" yeah right - I'm sure they are just going to hand over possibly the only way off the island

#97. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 3:16 PM

Someone PLEASE post a link to a screencap of Desmond in the Others camp! Thanks!

#98. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 3:16 PM

FHG reinforced the fact that the Others will never give up Walt. Michael is being played and manipulated into bringing the 4 back... Ms. Klugh-Clue has no intention of letting Walt go. (Or Michael for that matter...)

#99. Posted by: JoePike at May 18, 2006 3:19 PM

Mr. Pants -- As I look over the logs it appears your post was accidentally deleted. I'm reposting below:

"I think it's important to note that Zeke/Beardy told Jack et al that "Michael will never find us" and then told Michael "Looks like your friends abandoned you." (or something to that effect.) It goes a long way to explaining Michael's behaviour - he's been abandoned, he's been psychologically tortured and he's desperate to get Walt not just because he's Walt's dad, but to make up for everything - all the lost time, etc etc.

It's easy to assume Michael did what he did just because he's a father - but he HASN'T been a father until very very recently. So, he's making up big time. Coupled with the feeling that he's on his own and the terror he must feel that he'll never see Walt again..."

#100. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 3:19 PM

Great review, Mac.

Mac:"Major questions appear to have answers. Unexplained events are starting to make sense. And the motivations of the Others are starting ..."

I think the writers have successfully confused you, Mac. They see your future. They know your power will be too strong to control. You must break through the fog of lies the writers have created around you. Let me help you to know the subtleties of the plot. My mentor told me everything about the plot -- even the nature of the standard Alias plots. If one is to understand the great mystery, one must study all its aspects, not just the dogmatic, narrow view of the writers. If you wish to become a complete and wise blogger, you have to embrace a larger view of the plot. Be careful of the writers, Mac. Learn to know the power of standard Alias plots and you will be able to save your brain from certain death.

I know what's been troubling you. Listen to me: don't continue to be a pawn of the writers turnarounds. Ever since I've known you you've been searching for a live greater than that of an ordinary blogger -- a life of significance, of consciousness.

You have great wisdom, Mac. Know the power of standard Alias plots. Power to save you a lot of brain cycles.

So here's this week's major *** SPOILER ***:

Charlie is using again!!!

#101. Posted by: Margot at May 18, 2006 3:22 PM

"Thrust of the narrative"

Is that what they're callig it now?

#102. Posted by: El at May 18, 2006 3:24 PM

Margot -- Thanks for the warning! I'll tell you this: if the name "Rambaldi" eer appears on this show, I'm calling bullshit ;)

#103. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 3:25 PM

Here's a possibility, if the paternity test was negative, then maybe they didn't need Michael like they thought. He would not have contributed to Walt specialness. It would take more work to keep him there. I like Rick theory that Michael would come back with the 4 Losties requested and the others are gone. This would accomplish:
-Getting rid of Michael
-Getting the lost camp unsecured
-HG released
-Others new camp location would be concealed
-They would be able to ambush head losties

The only issues I see is that it would take time and manpower to move that fast and that if they wanted the leaders they would have asked for Sayid too.

#104. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 3:33 PM

Christina, please correct me if I am wrong, but...

The button wasn't pushed once before, but Locke put the code in before all of the hieroglyphics could turn over, the system reset itself and the second time the button wasn't pushed we can only assume Henry Gale typed in the numbers before the system ended. I assume this, because the system reset itself again. If HG didn't do anything, then yes the button is a red herring.

#105. Posted by: rick at May 18, 2006 3:35 PM

Rick - I really liked a lot of your possibilities for next week, however I have to question "They might have used him to lure the strongest away from the main group. That is when they plan to take Aaron & Sun (possibly Claire too)." Fabulous idea, but let's face it... Locke, Eko, and Sayid aren't on that list and in my opinion, they are each far stronger than Kate (bad-ass as she might be) or Hurley. Jack & Sawyer can hold their own, but the strongest aren't part of the Fab 4.

#106. Posted by: hookedonlost at May 18, 2006 3:39 PM


I hereby change my user name from The Jerk-A-Loo as I didn't realize I was dragging down the quality of your site. It was a moment of infantile humour and I apologize if my posts were a disgrace to you and yours. (C'mon, some of you found me hilarious!)

From here on out, I am "No-one Important"

Saddened-ly yours,
No-one Important

#107. Posted by: No-one Important at May 18, 2006 3:41 PM

Is Walt's mother really dead, or is she an "other" - was she "brought" to the island to produce more Walts? Walt's paternity would then be very important.

#108. Posted by: howcurious at May 18, 2006 3:42 PM

So ironic. Jack and Kate are camped out in the jungle, waiting, to trade FHG for Michael. Meanwhile, Michael's at the other's camp being told he needs to get FHG released. Seems like the others really aren't paying that close attention to our losties crew, or they would have just traded Michael for FHG. Then, Ana and Libby wouldn't have needed to be shot...
I think that FHG ran away from the others and they want him back to punish him.
Also, blood from Michael could be used for lots of things -- a paternity test, to see if he has/been exposed to the illness/pathogen, or possible for cloning...
I also think maybe the Other camp is where the Palo Ferry takes you to the mainland, thus, they have a boat.
BTW, I don't believe they're going to hand over Walt or the boat.
I wonder if Alex knows her mom's still alive. It seems odd the Others didn't know Clair had her baby and it was a boy!?
I wonder where Locke's going.
I can't believe they'd just leave a big ole puddle of blood in the middle of the hatch for so long.
I can't believe Sayid and Jack haven't questioned FHG letting himself out of a locked hatch, getting a gun, shooting Ana, while she's relaxing on the couch, and shooting Michael at such an odd angle. Convenient.
Love your blog, Mac. Glad others here are old enough to know what a betamax is...

#109. Posted by: lostchao at May 18, 2006 3:42 PM

Mary, you are right, I don't know why they wouldn't have asked for Sayid, Locke, Eko - other really strong castaways. Unless they somehow knew that Locke and Eko wouldn't be around - they would be at the Hatch and if they knew that Sayid - having mastered the art of bullshit, would notice Michael's ruse and follow him anyway. Maybe they assumed it would look too much like a set-up to invite all the strong people to the camp. Whatever the case, somehow I think they will be long gone when Michael arrives, they don't need him - they have Walt. They only wanted Michael's blood.

#110. Posted by: rick at May 18, 2006 3:45 PM

The Others camp "setup" may not be there, but they can't move the hatch...

#111. Posted by: lost chao at May 18, 2006 3:49 PM

the reason no one has a screenshot of desmond in the others camp is because there was NO desmond in the others camp. desmond is in the boat that the losties saw and he has been in it since he ran away from the hatch. he was probably trying to escape the island but as always it drags everything to it and doesn't let anything escape. so please lets forget about desmond ever being in the others camp.

#112. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 3:51 PM

Why would Sawyer be so buddy-buddy with Jack, Wouldn't he still hate that guy. Maybe he is planning another con job or he just had a moment of weakness. I guess it could happen to anybody that would be stranded on an island full of monsters, polar bears and grape apes.

#113. Posted by: rick at May 18, 2006 3:54 PM

Super cool review.

Here are some things that I got from this episode.

1. The others are running the experiment and they live underground/someplace else. Beachtown is as fake as Universal Studios.

2. The experiment is one of global proportions.

3. All the characters are tied to the Hanso Foundation and its partners.

3a. The characters' fathers/parents all have involvement in this. ie. Sun, Locke & Sawyer (Locke's dad killed Sawyer's Dad?), Walt, Jack & Claire (same daddy?).

4. Boat Theory 1: The boat is the ferry that is talked about in The Pearl Orientation film and was trigged by Locke putting the scribble map into the vaccum tube.


Boat Theory 2: The boat belongs to Damon who shipwrecked on the island trying to sail 'round the world.

5. Libby is a DeGroot or W??? She obviously was working for Hanso/Dharma. The hopsital that Hurley and Libby and the guy who worked for that company from Austrailia that went nuts and repeated the numbers over and over again also worked for Hanso/Dharma. The hospital is a place for the people that cracked under Hanso/Dharma.

6. Walt's mother worked for Hanso or one of its partners. Was her mysterious disease a ploy to get Walt to the island?

7. Ms Klugh repeats the laywers question to Michael.

8. Libby has no last name, she is the only character on IMDB that doesnt have a last name, HAS GOT TO BE A BIG CLUE.

Things to investigate:

1. In the first season funeral scene, what is Libby's last name as read from the passenger manifest?

2. What company did Walt's mother work for?

3. What was the name of the company that Boone's mother owned?

4. Review Hurley's Numbers episode for info about Hanso/Dharma.

5. I wonder if Walt was using telepathy to converse with Michael on the computer. After all he did make a polar bear come to life.

6. When Season 2 comes out on DVD, watch all eps. back to back.

7. What was the name of the boat that Shannon was on when Boone's came to save her in Season 1?

That's all I've got for now. I am gonna post this on the forums when I figure that out.

#114. Posted by: mynameisstolen at May 18, 2006 3:55 PM

It's a sad day for everyone when the Jerk-A-Loo has to say goodbye.

We'll miss him.


#115. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 3:57 PM

To clarrify something on the tapes. I believe they are umatic 3/4 inch tapes not betamax. The case was too thick for betamax.

#116. Posted by: vikster at May 18, 2006 3:59 PM

Mac - I am a faithful reader every week. Love your recaps, humor, everything about you.

Question is How do you move a hatch? If in fact the camp is a fake, the hatch doors must be also part of the scenery. It's the only logical explaination, if they return and the camp is gone.

I am looking for the screen shot of Desmond. I don't recall seeing him in the camp but I don't always catch everything the first time around.

#117. Posted by: Lisa at May 18, 2006 4:00 PM

What if the hatch doors are fake? Just a thought...

#118. Posted by: vikster at May 18, 2006 4:05 PM

Rick, I like your scenario (or thrust of the narrative, as it were) with one minor exception. How do you think they will plan a "surprise" attack using a sail boat? Wouldn't it be a little obvious if a sail boat starts bobbing up the shoreline? Doesn't see too well crafted for a former soldier.

#119. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 4:05 PM

You'll always be the Jerk-A-loo to me!

#120. Posted by: crispy seaplane at May 18, 2006 4:07 PM


Not sure how Sayid and Jin use the boat, but from the previews they are definitely on the boat. Maybe they host the first annual Dharma Regatta. I'm sure Walt always wins, you know with the teleporting thing.

#121. Posted by: Rick at May 18, 2006 4:15 PM

This is the first time I have tried to post a URL so I don't know if it will work.

The guy in the picture sort of resembles Desmond but I don't think it is him.


#122. Posted by: Lisa at May 18, 2006 4:15 PM

Now we need another photo to do a side by side comparison!!

#123. Posted by: mcarbone241 at May 18, 2006 4:19 PM

Compare with the pic of Desmond and Locke from last week's Entertainment Weekly. Not the same dude, as in the Locke photo, Desmond was more blonde, way more blonde.

However, very similar, leading more credence to the clone theories floating around out there.

#124. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 4:20 PM

Namaste is a Sanskrit word (not a hindu word. Hindu is a religion and Hindi is a language based on Hindi) meaning "I bow my head before you". This is a common greeting in Indian subcontinent. It is used in place of Hello and Bye, but the meaning is not of Hello or Bye. It is said with folded hands and with a bowed head. It shows respect for the other person.

you can read in detail at

#125. Posted by: aj at May 18, 2006 4:27 PM

Another thing not mentioned, was "the Rock with the hole in it", as Walt (presumably) typed to Michael, would be the marker to find the others camp. It was seen by Michael as he was led into the camp, could this be some kind of ancient ruin from a lost civilization? It looked like the side of an old stone building too, the hole looking very similar to a window.

Check it out.

#126. Posted by: Rick at May 18, 2006 4:28 PM

thanks for the correction aj! sorry to have misled you guys.

#127. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 4:31 PM

Here is a screen shot of Desmond in Adrift:

Same guy?

#128. Posted by: Lisa at May 18, 2006 4:33 PM

Out of respect to Jerk-a-Loo's family in this time of loss, may I suggest we all bow our heads and pray for the repose of his soul? (cue Hurley's eulogy with undertones of somber mood music).

During this time of prayer, may I also suggest we specifically pray for Jerk-a-Loo's soul to go directly to Paradise with no pit stops in Purgatory.

Is anyone getting this on their Betamax camera?

#129. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 4:34 PM

Gotta vent! I am so annoyed that Michael thinks those Others would set him and Walt free in exchange for Kate, el al. Puhlease! Maybe it would be more believable if they told him that they'd let Michael live with Walt while they tinker with Walt's brain, but let Walt go? No way!

Not to take this TV show too personally (too late), but if I were Michael, the first thing I'd do when I got back to the Lost camp would be to spill the beans. I'm sure that people would be willing to help save Walt with a fake exchange of prisoners/attack/ambush. Tactically, it would be smarter to have a well-thought-out plan than some silly this-is-my-kid-we-do-things-my-way cluster you-know-what. ARGH!

#130. Posted by: CA66 at May 18, 2006 4:35 PM

For a moment there it almost seemed like Walt's words were voiced over. He was obvoiusly bigger which means his voice has probably changed as well. Did anybody else notice?

My wife kept asking what I kept laughing about while I was reading your review. "There's this guy who reviews each Lost episode. He's pretty funny...", was my response.

It just occured to me! Desmond has the Betamax tapes on the boat. Isn't Purgatory a strange place?

#131. Posted by: jes at May 18, 2006 4:38 PM


It's hard not to take this show personally, but I hear ya.

Michael is reticent for a number of reasons - all psychological. First, he's desperate to get his boy back because he hasn't seen the boy for 10 years and under Mike's care he was kidnapped. Add to that 13 days of confinement, with the last thing you heard about your buddies being "Looks like your friends have abandoned you, Mike" and bob's your uncle.

Not only is he acting irrationally (and has been since we first met him) but now his irrational behaviour has been given even higher stakes which doesn't always bode well for sharing with others.

But, let's not forget the fact that we didn't see the Other's release Mike, only the deal with Mrs Klugh and then bcck to present day. So what happened between that moment and them letting him go?

Lots of Dharma drugs and psychological torture, their specialty.

#132. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 4:40 PM

Thank you, Mr. Pants. I feel better now. We might need a 12-step program to help some of us too consumed by this show like me (please, no offense intended to those in actual 12-step programs). We all have our own personal demons to fight.

#133. Posted by: CA66 at May 18, 2006 4:46 PM

So, if you look at the map, if you head north from the Swan, almost directly north would be the Arrow hatch. A little left of north is the scratched out hatch. All the other hatches are smaller than the Swan, so it doesn't seem all those Others at camp could fit/be living in a hatch...
Did anyone notice if there was an Arrow on the Other hatch door?

#134. Posted by: lostchao at May 18, 2006 4:46 PM


You hit on something that has been bothering me. If I was Michael I would go back and explain exactly what happened to me and that you four have to come with me in order to get Walt back. I sure as heck would do that before I offed two people.

Nobody should reasonbly buy his plan to attack the other camp without some of the other bad-asses. If I'm making an assault I sure want Eko, Sayid, and Jin backing me up in addition to Jack and Sawyer.

I can only assume, like others have suggested, that he got a little of the Dharma brainwashing before they let him loose.

#135. Posted by: Ignatius at May 18, 2006 4:53 PM

The hatch in last night's episode had some "door" symbol on it.

I'm guessing it's gotta be the scratched out hatch.

Is it a fake hatch, as some have theorized? Good question. My guess. No. I bet this is the Pala Ferry referred to by Wickman/Candle in last week's show, re-dressed to look like a camp of ragtag survivors. (Why the Ferry? Close to the water...)

Here's a wild theroy: What if next season was all told from the Others' POV?? Wouldn't that just about blow your mind??

Like I said, lots of Dharma drugs keeps a boy happy.

#136. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 4:54 PM

THAT IS TOO MUCH! I would really dig an episode from an Other's POV, maybe not a whole season, but an/some episode(s) would rock!

#137. Posted by: CA66 at May 18, 2006 4:58 PM

After taking the blood sample from Michael, Whizzer Other says to Michael "See you in the funny pages". Anyone have any theories about that?

#138. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 18, 2006 5:04 PM

good point on Ferry - you have dobbs ferry and harpers ferry which are places and not boats.

#139. Posted by: lost at work at May 18, 2006 5:04 PM

"See you in the funny pages"

Theory 1: Could be related to the comic Walt had, somehow.
Theory 2: It shows that these folks are putting on a show. Whizzer is very blase about Michael (tried to shoot him to Beardy's constertantion, made "funny pages" quip) and isn't playing "hardened survivors" like the other folks are. I loved the surly door guards. So surly!!

#140. Posted by: Mr Pants at May 18, 2006 5:14 PM

thought this ep was a little predictable...

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#141. Posted by: thinng at May 18, 2006 5:16 PM

Here is a screencap of "Desmond" at the Others' camp. I'm skeptical, but decide for yourselves.

#142. Posted by: Sabrina at May 18, 2006 5:22 PM

Charlie was shown several times looking at his watch. I wonder what that's all about.

As far as the blood test goes, it states on the Dharma site that one of their projects involves eugenics (essentially the development of a super race through selective breeding). They want Michael's blood to see if Walt's special abilities are genetically linked to Michael.

#143. Posted by: maries at May 18, 2006 5:23 PM

That is desmond in the camp, i see a little pony tail in his hair.

#144. Posted by: Kenny at May 18, 2006 5:29 PM

Regarding wanting Jack/Hurley/Kate/Sawyer versus Sayid/Ecko/Locke et al. This is a chess game. The others are using, and always have used a 'divide and conquer' strategy, and in addition, they are thinking of cutting the head off the snake. These four aren't necessarily the smartest or strongest, but could be seen as the most influential of the tribe.

By separating these groups, this maneuver will allow for either separate attacks on two different groups, a singular attack on the beach group sans leaders, or a singular attack on the most influential group.

Misinformation seems prevalent among the Others as well (and the writers!), and it could be that this trek / diversion of the leadership team will allow for some creation of panic and fear among the beach losties. Remember the preview seen with Bernard holding someone back and a key point in S.O.S. being that Bernie couldn't influence his team to work on the SOS? That will come into play in the final episode, but there will be a huge cliff hanger to get us to tune in next season.

#145. Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2006 5:35 PM

I've been wondering about the new hatch from last nights episode. I was just watching the Dharma Classification Video on (link posted by socompletelylost on the clues thread) I noticed the the Pearl hatch was not on that video and then I went to the ABC site, pulled up last night episode. I got of screenshot the new hatch logo. That hatch isn't on the video either. . . hmmm. On the blast door map there were 6 well defined hatches (just like on the video), one that was scratched out and the question mark. What was this hatch for, didn't seem to be part of the experiment?

BTW - the new logo is a dark circle with a white vertical rectangle and some thing in the center of the rectangle (I can't make it out)

I also got a better profile screenshot of that guy at the camp, I compared it with the image posted of Desmond in Adrift and I could swear it is him, the nose, beard shape and hair look the same.

#146. Posted by: Mary at May 18, 2006 5:37 PM

A cliffhanger? No way!

That would be so out of character for dramatic t.v. shows. I thought they would tie everything up with a neat little bow.

Since you mentioned Bernard, I was wondering at the beach funeral why we didn't see Bernard and Rose at all. Especially since Bernard was with Libby and AL in the tailies group. I guess those actors had the day off.

I SO want to know what Locke is up to!

#147. Posted by: Amanda at May 18, 2006 5:42 PM

I was trying to wait to get home to my notes, but so much is being covered so quickly, wanted to get my two cents in. Several things stuck out to me:

1) Loved the fact that Sayed is on to Michael, it makes sense that someone should be - especially considering how he was treating Hurley, how wierd he is being. Jack wanted to raise an ARMY to fight the others, but now 5 people seems like enough? Huh? (I also thought Reyes' scene in the last ep w/ Libby was far superior - re forgetting the blankets, to the scene this week) I was half expecting Hurley to explain he wasn't going on the expedition because he was "cursed" but... so much for that.

2. As has been recently mentioned, that "See you in the funny papers" line is odd. Supposedly it's a dismissive turn of phrase, that appeared in the 1920's and "died out" in the 1950's but I know I've heard it around. Still... it was an odd turn of phrase. A connection to the comic books? no telling. Also, putting the USED needle & syringe in a ziploc drove me nuts - it should've punctured the bag almost immeadiately. Also, Whizzing Guy must be a pretty skilled phlebotomist to hit a vein and draw it that fast on Michael w/o tying him off.

3. Speaking of that blood - paternity test is a possibility, as is checking the blood for infection. Still, I'm thinking that the "infection" isn't really an infection, unless it's viral-based gene therapy gone awry. Walt being the product of some Dharma gene engineering project is an interesting idea.

4. Charlie seemed just plain odd, the whole episode. The thing with the vaccine kit is *very* odd. It seems like someone would've found it and given it to Jack - but maybe he was trying to get back into Claire's good graces so they could find a net to get caught in. Still, it was wierd. Can't buy he's an other, or that he's using again (unless those were EMPTY statues he was throwing out there).

5. The "vaccine" - I'm pretty convinced it's not really a vaccine, because of the dosing schedule. It's a sorry vaccine that would require dosing every 9 days to provide any protective immunity. In fact, I think the immunological kinetics make it virtually impossible for that to make any sense, unless you require some sort of active immune response to stay un-infected. I poked around looking for any other drugs with a 9 day dosing schedule - there aren't any that I could find, but there are some antipsychotic drugs available in "depot" injection form, which involves injecting a large time release dose, anywhere from weeks to months apart. So, I wonder if in fact the "vaccine" is some sort of drug related to psychological control or experiments.

6. Michael's compass - Mac pointed out, compasses don't work well on the island typically, so I'm wondering if the Others told him to "go north" and then drew him in to the trap by locking his compass in the direction they wanted him to move.

7. Walt / Klugh - it was hard to read, but Klugh seemed genuinely unhappy when Walt said "They're pretending" ... Walt could be manipulating his Dad for the Others, but why? I'm also not sure this resolves the "single group" vs "two groups" of Others. It could be that Zeke, Klugh and some others are the experimenters - putting on the disguises to blend in with their "experiment", the run of the mill primitive others. They're obviously studying Walt extensively.

I think this is all I have right now. I'm betting that boat is Desmond's - maybe he was trying to escape. Looking forward to the finale but not the withdrawals after that. I think recent qoutes from Lindelhof about there not being "one unifying theory" to explain everything that happens on the island is worth remembering in trying to figure out what's going on...

That's all for now. Namaste.

#148. Posted by: biohazard at May 18, 2006 5:42 PM

the guy in the picture is not desmond...his build is completely different from desmonds who i remember as being a more buffed up guy(more than this guy at least). anyway, WE will all realize the truth next week when we actually see desmond.

#149. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 18, 2006 5:46 PM

One more thing that supports my theory that the "Others" don't live on the island full-time: Alex asking Michael about Claire's baby. Perhaps Alex doesn't know because they've been gone from the island since Claire got away from them (with Alex's help). Just a theory.

It would explain why they leave their "costumes" behind, and why the medical hatch is abandoned.

#150. Posted by: Amanda at May 18, 2006 5:48 PM

(shannon, 'namaste' is Hindi for hello and goodbye, like 'aloha' is in Hawaii).

Mac, great review, my mind is still spinning from all the details to contemplate. I can't wait until next week for the finale. My sister and I think that, when Lost ends, the cast and crew will turn to the camera and reveal that YOU (the audience) are the real lab rats in the grand experiment and that the challenge was to see how many mindless viewers they could round up to view the subliminal messages hidden in each frame in the episodes. how many of us pressed 'the button' (i.e. ABC channel on our remotes) once a week, without really knowing why, but felt compelled to do so?.

#151. Posted by: lostinmythoughts at May 18, 2006 5:50 PM

MAC- you have a talent. this was an excellent recap--so funny.

ok, a couple points: PAUL- NO WAY is Charlie an other. (OK this is just my ego talking; see my second point) and someone else suggested he was brainwashed by the Others when he kidnapped Sun, but I think it was made pretty clear that he was working with Sawyer when he did that.

HOWEVER (second point about to be made) I am surprised at how many people are making weird assumptions, like Walt made the polar bear come to life? what about Dharma experiments w/ animals? i think it is safe to assume that NO assumptions can be made about anything, given the nature of the show and the ability of the writers to twist all plotlines.

and just a note to lostchao- Jack was going to exchange FHG for WALT, not Michael. the losties have no idea Michael was taken by the others.

this is the best show e-v-e-r!

#152. Posted by: lustforlost at May 18, 2006 5:52 PM

Amanda, don't blame me for stating the obvious. It gets overlooked sometimes. :D

#153. Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2006 5:59 PM

I looked at that photo of the ponytial dude, and if it IS Desmond at the lost "camp" (aka: really bad movie set with fake Dharma hatch doors) he has grown a little funky chin hair.

#154. Posted by: Tazbee at May 18, 2006 6:05 PM

Why the "Fab Four?" Maybe because:

(1) they all have the same blood type? Some creep-o Dharma experiement?

(2) they have all been able to see the "projected visions/half-souls" on the island (Jack/his dad; Kate & Sawyer/the horse; Hurley/Dave)

(3) they have all experienced the death of a loved one/someone to whom their own soul partially belonged (Sawyer/his parents; Kate/her boyfriend; Jack/his dad; Hurley/his grandfather (or was it uncle?)

Anyway....just trying desperately to find the "common ground"

#155. Posted by: GatorGal at May 18, 2006 6:07 PM

To all those who are still speculating about two groups of Others:
We KNOW, from this week's show, that the SAME Alex who was in the medical hatch (i.e. with the so-called "scientific" Others) was also with the so-called "raggedy" Others, because she asked Michael about Claire and her baby.
OK, I suppose it's POSSIBLE that she runs back and forth between the two groups of Others, but that seems pretty implausible. I think it's pretty clear that there is only ONE group of Others.

#156. Posted by: Sabrina at May 18, 2006 6:07 PM

Mac, as always, awesome review - thanks.

Couple character notes:

Sayid - he won some major points with me in this episode. I really can't stand his character (the entire Sayid/Shannon debable just ruined it for me) but last nite he was right on point. The ONLY one to see thru Michael's plan. I think he will be a *major* player in the finale.

Kate - I didn't see anybody mention this. But when her & Hurley were digging the holes for the graves, and Michael came over to try to get Hurley to go along to find the Others ... and Kate stood up for Hurley. Told Michael to get the hell out of there. It was a quick scene, and not really that important, but for some reason it resonated with me. I really like her character.

Sawyer - I think that was a genuine moment when he called Jack the closest thing he has to a friend. It's nice to see that coming from him every once in a while. Plays up the sympathy card.

Hurley - I agree with the other people who have said he blew that speech. He totally did. That would've been a great moment, like the week before - "I'm sorry I forgot the blankets ... I'm sorry I forgot the blankets."

Locke - don't get too used to seeing him on the sidelines like he was in this episode. He will be the KEY next week. He is the KEY to the entire series. I just have a feeling.

Desmond - I really hope that's him on the boat. He better be back - along with Gale. Two great fringe characters that make this show work.

I agree with Mac that the whole Charlie/Claire thing was kind of stupid. Oh well.

Next week will be amazing ... counting down the days ...

#157. Posted by: Mike at May 18, 2006 6:09 PM

Ms. Klugh gave Michael specific orders to bring back 4 Losties. She said nothing about revenge killing Ana Lucia (for killing two others). So, my question is, why did Michael decide on his own to pump Ana Lucia full of lead? Was her sneer that annoying?

#158. Posted by: Heater at May 18, 2006 6:12 PM

Just throwing this out there, has anyone else wondered where "the monster" has been for so long? I do not believe we have seen it since Eko 'stared it down', right? It used to be you couldn't wander into the jungle without the potential of stirring it up somehow. Seems odd, no?

#159. Posted by: The Duf at May 18, 2006 6:21 PM

Wonder why Zeke had Michael knocked out by Alex before they started back to the Others camp? It was obviously preplanned because he didn’t tell her to knock him out, Zeke just indicated it was time. Why not leave him gagged and use his own leg power rather than carry him? There has to be a reason. There is something they did not want Michael to know about the trip back.

Maybe the Other’s camp is a lot closer (or further) than they want Michael to believe? Maybe they used some form of transportation that they don’t want known by the survivors?

Time will tell (I hope).

#160. Posted by: Lost In Lost at May 18, 2006 6:42 PM

When Charlie is trhowing statues in the water we don't see the splashes. Any idea why?
And one other thing. Ms Klugh said to Michael "You have three minutes" There are 60 seconds in a minute. So 60x3=180 seconds which is also the number on the countdown clock. Weird!

#161. Posted by: Mr. Cube at May 18, 2006 6:49 PM

Sawyer "That's how she got my gun... She jumped me; we got caught in a net" Still laughin about that since last night.

Now i will try to remember all the thoughts i had while reading the posts.

to KateplusSun
thanks for the spoiler warning... cuz we dont all know desmond will be in the finale; good grief
-dont suppose u could ban spoilers, MAC. so many posts, I sometimes read right through the warnings w/out realizing. Sry to be a "negative nancy"

I hope we all stop assuming that the Pearl tv's had tapes in them. It would run out of tape in less than a day... I thought it was obvious that it was just a direct feed. Like what u see when you're in a store and you see urself on tv because of the camera above u... If that sounds logical to anyone.

"He's a very smart man" Henry Gale referring to his leader. I dont think Ms. Klugh is their leader, but then again, the others are masters of disguise.

Jack and Sawyer "friends"??? I too see another long con coming

And finally, this episode finally proved that Ethan and Goodwin are part of the same group. IE: Henry talked to Ana about Goodwin{Two for the Road(i think)} We saw Ethan talkin to the bearded man, w/out the beard. (Maternity Leave). Now we finally put Henry and the bearded man together.
Sry for the lengthy post... but there's just so much to type about once u read everyone else's. And im sure there will be 100 more after mine. What a great community to be a part of.

#162. Posted by: Middies at May 18, 2006 7:13 PM

is it possible that jack may have a son?
Maybe it wasnt significant but if you back and watch the scene where Jack calls Micheal back into the hatch and they start talking of a plan, Micheal snaps at Jack and yells "Do you have a son Jack?"it looked like jack was about to say something and then he was interupted by Hurley. Any thoughts on this. Great Review Mac, like always.

#163. Posted by: HeavensReject at May 18, 2006 7:21 PM

Not sure if anyone said anything about my earlier post, regarding Mrs. you think she's the same woman as in the images in the smoke monster with Eko?

#164. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 7:21 PM

Maybe I'm imagining things, but I would swear that at the end of Mrs. Klugh's last chat with Michael, she said that there was 'something else' he needed to do to get Walt back...but we never heard an explanation for what that something else was. I'd bet it was a little death contract on Ana-Lucia. Anyone else hear this, or am I just going nuts?

#165. Posted by: Lia at May 18, 2006 7:23 PM

To the Artist Formerly Known as Jerk-A-Loo,

Thank you for your post. All transgressions are hereby noted/forgiven/forgotten ;)

-- mac

#166. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 7:28 PM

Christina -- I think you're dead-on about Ms. Klugh being the woman in Eko's mind-read. That's got to be her.

#167. Posted by: mac at May 18, 2006 7:48 PM

Mrs. Klugh's "something else" was that Michael is supposed to bring back the 4 (Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley).

#168. Posted by: Christina at May 18, 2006 7:48 PM

I had to read through all these posts before I found anyone - it was biohazard - who noticed something wrong with the way the needle was handled when Mikey got his blood taken. And it was handled wrong because ... it was faked! To the DVRs people: it was either an Others ruse or a Hollywood ruse. When the Other sticks Mikey with the syringe, and "draws" some blood, his other hand is totally covering the barrel of the syringe. Then he drops it in a ziploc bag ... if you watch that frame by frame you will see that the old style heavy duty needle slides up inside the barrel by the time the thing has slid 4" into the bag. The syringe hits the bottom of the bag and the socket of the needle is at the bottom: there is no needle. Also, there seemed to be some blood on the plunger, which could never happen unless the syringe was defective. The whole thing was faked: Walt is right, they ARE pretending. I used to see fake syringes like this for sale in magic shops when I was a kid.

Another micro-detail shows me that Sayyid is now the best armed Lostie. When Sawyer welcomes him to the Get Walt Back Gang, he hands him a pistol. As far as I could tell, that pistol is a SIG. A few scenes later, when we see Sayyid packing his bag, Mikey comes by to tell him he's not part of the raid, we see that the pistol Sayyid is putting in his bag is a GLOCK. The two guns are totally different looking. So I guess Sawyer didn't really have ALL the guns all this time.

#169. Posted by: ATP at May 18, 2006 8:00 PM

whats the name of the actress who plays Alex?!

anyone know?!

#170. Posted by: Scott at May 18, 2006 8:03 PM

Scott, Alex is played by Tania Raymonde. She was also on Malcolm in the Middle for a while. Click on my name for her IMDB entry.

#171. Posted by: Lia at May 18, 2006 8:08 PM

Thanks! she was the best looking thing i've seen on lost to date!

anyway, regarding the episode

the ending has made me wanna rip my eyes out, is this what desmond has returned on? lots of people have said desmond returns for last episode, is this him? the others cant have sent the raft because michael hasnt delivered hurley, kate, jack and sawyer, or has this been sent to show/pretend michael that they mean business and he can go, if they get those 4!

its gonna be awful when lost finishes, i need it weekly! oh well, least in UK theve just started showing series 2 now, i can re-watch all those episodes

#172. Posted by: Scott at May 18, 2006 8:19 PM

Just a few things:

1. Charlie is not an other--he is terrible at the mind games and is not wearing the Dharma-issued khaki/olive drab garb.

2. Walt clearly has some kind of gift and it is not just teleporting. Remember how he made a bird fly into the glass window while his mother, step-father were arguing? Also, Brian, the step-dad, made it clear that he wanted Michael to take Walt because he (Brian) was afraid of Walt because weird things happened around Walt.

3. I think these fake others rebelled against the Dharma project and are trying to harness these talents to escape the island.

4. The theory that those on the list are who have seen unusual things is wrong. Sayid has seen wet/backwards talking Walt, and he is not on the list.

5. What happened to the polar bears, smoke monsters, boars, weird things that permeated the first season? Did they burn up like Walt's spanish comic book of aliens and polar bears on a tropical island?

6. I researched the phrase Namaste, and while it is a general catch-all for hello/goodbye of the aloha/shalom/salaam variety, it also has several other meanings. It can mean *submission* (which seems very possible on this show), it can mean *wholeness* like yin and yang.

7. Finally the tape is *not* a betamax tape. I have a player and the tapes are way smaller. But it does hint that that Pearl tape is later than the orientation film.

That's it. BTW, I did this from home this time, my bosses would have killed me.

#173. Posted by: boharpe at May 18, 2006 8:39 PM

Christina -

I'm glad someone else mentioned about Ms. Klugh being the woman from Eko's smoke monster. I mentioned that last week when we saw the preview of Klugh talking to Michael, but no one responded. I'm sure this is going to be extremely significant that she appeared to Eko.

Sabrina - You mentioned that the theory of two groups of others is now blown b/c Alex was seen both in the medical hatch and with the raggedy others. While I'm not sure which side of this theory I'm on, I don't think this reasoning quite works out. Remember that the raggedy costumes were FOUND in the medical hatch, so those we saw in the med. hatch and on the beach would appear to be the same group, but in costume in the latter location. The question is, is there another group or others who is dissheveled and in tattered clothes, not just playing dress up, or down as it were.

Just a thought!

#174. Posted by: AmyK at May 18, 2006 9:14 PM

This may have been addressed but...Eko took the printouts which should show Michaels IM's. If and when they share this with the rest of the group it will show Michael has been compromised.

#175. Posted by: Steven at May 18, 2006 9:55 PM

I thought the woman that Eko saw in the monster was the woman who was selling the Virgin Mary statues outside his brother's church. I don't think that woman and Ms. Klugh are the same. Then again I could be wrong.

I'm also wondering if we saw the whole exchange between Ms. Klugh and Michael. She stated "they will be angry enough to believe whatever you say". Why would they be angry enough? I realize that our Losties are pretty pissed at the Others, but something seems to be missing there.

I guess we'll find out next week.

#176. Posted by: Gigi at May 18, 2006 10:08 PM

I am starting to lean towards the thought that Jack's dad is "HIM"...whoever "HIM" turns out to be, it has to be someone we know to add to the shock value when we actually find out... and who would be more of a shock (other than one of the actual LOST people) than Jack's Dad, who we think is dead.
I also think when all is said and done with this show, that there will still be plenty of questions not answered...this show offers so much in regards to big and small storylines that I think at some point, the writers lose a bit of their focus on all that is going on and start to miss things. I hope I'm wrong but we'll see...
Last, MR. CUBE...the countdown in the hatch is from 108, not 180.

#177. Posted by: Jason at May 18, 2006 10:36 PM

hey Mac awesome review and great comments guys, everything i would address has been said(i think), except all the animals being gone. you know when some think bad is about to come, like an earthquake, all the animals get the hell out of there. a sigh of a disastrous events to come? or totally irreleovant?
Just a thought

#178. Posted by: cooper at May 18, 2006 10:44 PM

what s up with eko and the computer, they should leave that timer stop once and for all, on the other hand i'm i erong or did lock miss the boat???

#179. Posted by: webbourne at May 18, 2006 11:06 PM

I just had an awesome idea!!!

What if Henry Gale (the original black Henry) was a participant in the race around the world?? The same one that Desmond was in??? Tell me what you think. Does it add up or am I just saying crazy things.

#180. Posted by: P.Murph at May 18, 2006 11:43 PM

Did anyone notice that after Michael's blood is "drawn" the Other fellow says "see you in the funny pages."?

A tie-in to Walt's comics?

Great blog!

#181. Posted by: Darthbeatle at May 19, 2006 12:06 AM

I noticed that as Michael was led into camp there was a youngish guy who sort of stepped back as though not wanting to be seen. Both times I watched (I know, I know)he struck me as someone we'll be seeing again. Maybe Jack does have a son!

#182. Posted by: Joss at May 19, 2006 12:33 AM

>: igmrmpijclhnhuapa ihorroetoncm; rotflmao

(Editor's Note: This looks like a random string of letters, but it's actually a rarely used Web abbreviation. In Web parlance, "igmrmpijclhnhuapa ihorroetoncm; rotflmao" is an abbreviation for: "I've Got My Rifle and My Pistol and I Just Clocked Locke in the Head and Now He's Unconscious in the Armory so Please Answer me so I can Head Off on a Ridiculous Rescue Operation that will End Tragically for Our Newest Cast Members; Rolling On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off.")

i don't think i've read anything more amusing then that. nicely done.

does anything think its wierd that sawyer is acting so cooperative? i mean its sorta out of charcater for him isn't it?

#183. Posted by: Laura at May 19, 2006 1:07 AM

keep up the great writting Mac

Here is a thought or two

How about FHG is NOT an other but the Others want him because he is of value from another group. He did say he would be killed by the others.

The vacination could be just water for another psychological control or experiment.

Clones good thought - maybe one group is the original person and the "others" are the clones. Maybe the others was checking Michael to see if he was a clone or the original. Possible cking his blood to see if he is really the dad because Walt has powers and they may want to clone Michael for the powers or use his DNA breakdown to find the powers thatWalt has (they sure don't want to kill Walt... he is valuable.

#184. Posted by: deej at May 19, 2006 2:51 AM

The following is a blend of what many have commented on already, so pardon any repetition:

Not much has been made here of the rock with the hole in it visible at the others' camp. Only Michael and Walt have seen it. Could this be the true gateway to the island, which is a lab (Dharma) for a secret research organization? Walt states the others aren't what they seem. Will we see that the air trip, start to finish, was staged, dead bodies and all using an experimental hallucination drug, merely to hide the true entrance point? Could the early polar bears and smoke etc be strange observations from people coming off their "trip"? Is it possible that everyone was brought here forcefully through a gateway where the other end is located in Australia? We're told we'll know why the plane crashed next week, but I'll bet there wasn't a crash. Producer Lindelof states there is no "unified theory", which takes away the central need for a crash.

All the characters, then, could have their own complex stories of how they were coercively brought to the island, which fits into the recent us vs them mentality. The researchers are intentionally creating this new us vs. them to conduct further experiments; part of this experiment could be to test Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer, since the researchers know that Michael will eventually crack and tell everything to them. Sayeed see's this whole island as a chess game currently being controlled totally by the others (or researchers), which so far proves to be the most accurate.

The Dharma researchers know about Michael's past, so why all the questions for him except to manipulate him? Perhaps their purpose is to exploit the past of all the characters, having selectively brought them here for the sake of furthering their research ends. So every back story we know about, is the same story the researchers found out before the characters were brought here. The island would then be their lab to test out their psychology theories which can change every day (as the writers see fit.)

#185. Posted by: Loz at May 19, 2006 3:41 AM

Besides annoying Mac by quoting the artist formely known as Palpatine, here some real observations regarding this episode:

I think Michael's actions were totally weird. Let me quote the dialogue between Mrs. Clue and Michael:
C: When am I going to do what?
M: Kill me [why?]. I've seen where you live [wrong!], I know how to get here [more wrong!]. You've been asking me questions I don't know the answer to for a week [hmm, OK, but what's the point?]. I don't think my son is alive [why would he think that?]. Do you think I'm stupid? [hmm, why would they think that? -- because his last sentences didn't make any sense at all?].
C: there's been a development, blahblah...
M: so go get him [or HIM?] back! [like Michael did go and get Walt back?]
C: we can't do that [probably another blatant lie] but you can [of course, he obviously has much experience from "freeing" Walt]. And if you do, we'll let you and Walt go free [WHY would Michael believe this? Because he's stupid?]
C: ... it doesn't matter. Make up a story [oh yeah, standard Alias plot: how about killing AL while you're at it?], they'll be angry enough to believe whatever you say [WHY should they be angry enough???].

Can anyone explain to me this weird dialogue and relate it to Michael's actions [i.e., killing AL...]? I think this storyline doesn't make any sense at all. Michael has NO reason at all to believe ANY word from Mrs. Clue, because she lied to him all the time. Therefore, it makes no sense at all that Michael agrees to her proposal. Furthermore, killing AL wasn't part of his "mission", so why did he do it?

#186. Posted by: Margot at May 19, 2006 4:05 AM

i think he saw it as a way of freeing henry gale, like that lass wanted, it just happened ana lucia was there

#187. Posted by: Scott at May 19, 2006 4:15 AM

I wonder if Michael did not "accidentally" murder Libby, how would he ever manage to motivate Hurley into joining the "army"? So in a funny way, blanket or no blanket, Libby must die. Anyone?

#188. Posted by: endolin at May 19, 2006 4:16 AM

I have a small theory of my own here, and I don't think this one was suggested yet.
What if the Others ARE Dharama? Not people who escaped from Dharma after realizing what is going on (what IS going on???), but Dharma itslef?
See, Walt tells Mike the Others are not as they seem (neither are the owls...); Klugh knows all about Mike, Walt, Jack, Sawyer... I haven't worked it through much, I admit, but hey, worth mentioning this option.

#189. Posted by: Pierre Friedmann at May 19, 2006 5:36 AM

whoever came in at that point and said, "Michael?!" after he'd shot ana lucia woulda died, he turned round n shot instantly outa shock, just so happened, and extremely lucky for michaels plan, that it was libby

#190. Posted by: Scott at May 19, 2006 6:32 AM

whoever came in at that point and said, "Michael?!" after he'd shot ana lucia woulda died, he turned round n shot instantly outa shock, just so happened, and extremely lucky for michaels plan, that it was libby

also michael didnt even know libby and hurley were getting it on, as he'd been away for the majority of it all

#191. Posted by: Scott at May 19, 2006 6:32 AM

As usual, great recap Mac, thanks.

No one has stressed this point, and I think it is important.
Is very surprising that the others know the Sawyer real name. It is possible I’m wrong, but only Locke knows that Sawyer real name is James Ford. If Locke is not connected to the others –and I suppose he is not–, the others knew previously the passenger’s names and perhaps the crash was not an accident but planned possibly as a Dharma experiment.

#192. Posted by: Gerardo at May 19, 2006 7:51 AM

Gerardo - Hurley had the manifest so he too would know Sawyer's real name. Kate knows that Sawyer isn't his real name as well.

#193. Posted by: Gigi at May 19, 2006 8:03 AM

Ok Gigi, but who has told the others the Sawyer name? Nor Kate, Hurley or Locke seems to have speak about this with them. It looks as if the Dharma guys have a passengers "official record".

#194. Posted by: Gerardo at May 19, 2006 8:37 AM

Two things:
--Did anyone notice that the clock was not counting down for Eko in the scene where he was at the computer (later on in the episode). I forget - does it count down seconds? Because if it does, it was not moving...I haven't had a chance to rewatch yet, but I found this interesting...
-- Secondly - when Michael said to Ms. Klugh "Why don't you go get him yourself" (referring to HG) and she said "We can't, but you can" is that just a mind game or do you think that the others actually can't because of some reason we've discussed like the Cerebrus or something related to that?

#195. Posted by: Adam at May 19, 2006 9:34 AM

Adam, if memory serves me, the countdown clock only starts counting down seconds towards the end of the countdown. Although, I also wondered why the closck wasn't moving when we first see Eko at the computer, but as the scene progressed, the minute changed and the seconds remained unchanged at 00. Can anyone else confirm my memory?

#196. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 9:39 AM


I noticed the same thing.

#197. Posted by: IcebergSlimm at May 19, 2006 10:16 AM

I noticed that during my nerdy rewatch of it. Also, I wondered why they portrayed the whole Charlie Eko deal as a lovers quarrel. To the point of Charlie moving into the hatch as a "bachelor's pad". Eko was frustratingly vague with Charlie.
Later, it seemed as if Jack was angry with Eko when he said "You were supposed to be back right away!" Jack always seems mad at people.

#198. Posted by: Meg at May 19, 2006 10:31 AM

Just saw the actor that plays Michael on Ellen. He just said the "Others" are jokingly refered to as set decorators. The create villages and wear masks. That would make the theory that the village is not real.

#199. Posted by: Ellen Show at May 19, 2006 10:45 AM

Just saw the actor that plays Michael on Ellen. He just said the "Others" are jokingly refered to as set decorators. The create villages and wear masks. That would make the theory that the village is not real.

#200. Posted by: Ellen Show at May 19, 2006 10:46 AM

Okay, back to Jack's dad... Some have speculated that the reason for the empty coffin Jack found was that he was never able to get the body and flew out without it. Well, that doesn't wash now; Jack said last ep that he was going straight from the airport in LA once arrived to the funeral and hadn't planned a speech. He would not do that if he had no body, he would cancel / postpone the funeral. Also remember Jack's shock when he found the empty coffin.
So Dr Dad is missing and has been "seen" on the island. Sure the body could have been drug off or floated away (yeah -- like anything ever gets off THIS island). Or he was never really dead. Or he has come back to life. If never dead, why fake it? To get to the island? Surely there must be better ways than that. And remember, we now have precedence for coming back to life (Charlotte). I have long thought he was connected to Dharma somehow, any theories about dear ol' dad?

#201. Posted by: BELost at May 19, 2006 11:01 AM

Yin and Yan goes along with the whole black and white string that is constantly recurring. Maybe there has to be a balance between the losties and the Others. Even with a magnet there are opposing forces, north pole v south pole. Maybe now that Ana Lucia and Libby are dead the equalibrium is off somehow. The yin yang symbol is on the website

Maybe the Asian guy Candle/Wickam is Nepali, and his wife is the lady that appears on the website. This would have ramifications for the Korean couple (their names escape me).

#202. Posted by: Meg at May 19, 2006 11:02 AM

Great blogs by everyone. I have one confusion. When Zeke had Jack, Sawyer, Locke and Kate by torchlight, why didn't he hold on to the 3 of then (not Locke)? A few days later, the 3 of them and Hurley become so important that the others are willing to give up their prized possesion in Walt? Or are they really not going to give him up?

#203. Posted by: Ronny B at May 19, 2006 11:25 AM

First of all, it wasn't three minutes, okay? It was two minutes. Maybe they cut out the part where Walt said "I've been trying to call... didn't Shannon give you my messages?". Or maybe they just don't have any temporal overisght in LOST's editing room. For the record, this is not the only time disruption in three minutes. When Charlie enters the hatch computer room to bug Eko the counter is at 108, when he leaves a minute and twenty seconds later, it flips to 107. We know it flipped to 108 exactly when Charlie entered the room. Using that logic, Michael's two minutes with Walt actually was almost three minutes, in their warped universe. Is this another mystery? Okay, so I'm sounding a little crazy here. Who knew.

This was from's tailsection

#204. Posted by: Green Turkeys fly at noon on wednesdays before a full moon on the fifth month of the 17th year circa at May 19, 2006 11:28 AM

Rewatched the previews for next week again last night.

Jack kicks in a hatch on the sailboat.

Sayid and Jin are on the sailboat looking at something. Probably headed toward the Others camp.

Kate is being dragged, somewhat unconciously by the arm.

Jack and someone else are standing next to a pile of the pneumatic tube cannisters, with some of the booklets opened on the pile.

Jack and Kate kissing.

GatorGal - Go GATORS!

#205. Posted by: Mike at May 19, 2006 11:32 AM

Not specific to this episode: I have no idea who the writers are going to explain everything on this show. They have to tie EVERYTHING together, including the significance of the numbers, the noises on the island, the smoke monster, polar bears, the plane crash itself, etc. I keep thinking of the Matrix or the Bob Newhart dream and then I think about how the series all began. The very first seconds of Lost start with Jack waking up in the jungle, Vincent running by him and then his discovery of the beach and survivors. I sincerely hope this is not all his dream but since it's becoming incredibly hard to explain the ties of everything, I'm beginning to think that may be the "cop out" which will be horrible. Either that or I have to keep having faith that the writers are geniuses and can piece it all together.

#206. Posted by: Ronny B at May 19, 2006 11:35 AM

Why is there so much checking of watches during this episode?

Charlie checks his watch when he's talking to Eko.

Michael checks his watch when he's talking to Jack. Jack asks if he has a date or something.

Alvar Hanso has been missing for how long?

#207. Posted by: Mike at May 19, 2006 11:37 AM

This writing on this show is becoming asinine.

Unless we missed some dialogue between Michael and Miss Cleo (or whatever Walt's captor's name was), Michael's actions are compeltely ridiculous. I don't care how much he misses his son, he had a few days to come up with a plan of attack on his way back to camp and EXECUTING ANA LUCIA FOR NO REASON would not have factored into his reasoning. Walt could've simply said to the foursome needed, "Guys, you need to come with me to get Walt back. Sure, it's a trap, but we can outsmart them somehow.." And they would've all agreed to it. Instead, he sneaks into the hatch, doesn't even ask to free Fake Henry because he decides it's wiser to murder Ana Lucia, "accidentally" shoot Libby, and then wound himself. What the Hell? I dare someone to come up with a WORSE plan for getting his son back. Why didn't he just attack the others with hummus? Michael has been retarded lately. I'm actually hoping they still pull out the "brainwashed" ploy, because at least I won't finish the season feeling so grossly manipulated by the writers who have painted themselves into a corner.

Let's not even get into the inconsistancies in character with Locke and Jack. These guys go through more changes of heart and philosophy in one day of "episode time" than most people do in their entire lives.

Another bit that felt way too contrived this week... the immunization shots: WTF!?!? First of all, Charlie is a moron, so I guess it's not that improbably that he'd try them on himself. But Clair actually considering giving them to her baby before, I don't know, CONSULTING THE ISLAND DOCTOR. That would just be inexcusible writing. Well, it's not like she has any reason to be distrusting; she hasn't had any negative experiences in any of her run-ins with the medical staff, equipment, or facilities on the Island. Oh wait, there was that time she was kidnapped...

Man, this is getting to be an every week thing. Between the outlandish occurances (and no, I'm not counting the supernatural stuff, only the character actions) and the continuing trend of characters discovering weird stuff while wandering alone and failing to report it to any of the other castaways... I'm quickly losing patience.

Speaking of which, if Sawyer views Jack as such a buddy now, is it perhaps time to mention that he met his father?

Aghh! Frustrated!

#208. Posted by: T-raz at May 19, 2006 11:45 AM

I also noticed the watches prominently displayed on various arms throughout the episode. Why even wear a watch on the island? How did Michael even get a compass? Maybe they are just messing with us.

#209. Posted by: meg at May 19, 2006 11:46 AM

That last post should have had read, "MICHAEL could've simply said to the foursome..." I used the wrong name.

#210. Posted by: T-raz at May 19, 2006 11:48 AM

I don't understand why people keep saying that Michael planned to kill AL and/or killed her for no reason. He was told by Ms. Clue that he needed to bring the Fab 4 and release Faux HG before they would release Walt. When he and AL were alone in the hatch, he saw his opportunity to take advantage of a situation. There was a gun, only one other person there and she had the combination. And it was easy to convince AL to get both the gun and the door combo by offering to kill Faux HG for her. He was just being an opportunist and played the situation perfectly. That is, until he was so stunned by Libby showing up that he also shot her. But again, that was just a small wrinkle, easily solved by the fact that he whirled around and shot her anyway. From his perspective, it was perfect and any father in that situation would probably do the same thing. Someone else (I forget who) said this before....he was out of his son's life for years and had just started getting through to Walt when they stole him. As a father, he's got a lot to make up for and he's doing what he sees as his only option to save his son.

#211. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 12:00 PM


Your post had me cracking up. I agree that the characters are acting a bit inconsistently as well but am none the less entertained.

You mentioned that maybe it's time Sawyer told Jack that he had met his father. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I think he already did tell Jack this. I believe it was in season one and Jack and Sawyer were alone in the jungle while Sawyer was chopping some bamboo for the raft or something. Jack attempts an awkward good-bye and Sawyer tells him that he was sitting by a guy in a bar who told him that he had really messed things up with his son and just couldn't get up the courage to call him (or something like that). I took it as this was Sawyer's way of telling Jack that he'd met his father. Am I remembering this wrong?

#212. Posted by: AmyK at May 19, 2006 12:10 PM

Well, if Michael wasn't ordered to kill Ana Lucia, then he's more than an opportunist, he's a cold-blooded murder.

#213. Posted by: Heater at May 19, 2006 12:12 PM

I don't recall anyone ever telling Michael what the prisoners name was, yet in his discussion with Eko, he refers to Henry by name, and his face seems to show that he realizes he just slipped up by doing so.

#214. Posted by: Jim Leigh at May 19, 2006 12:14 PM

Hey T-Raz, stop bashing the show! If you don't like it, stop watching and stop posting! And if you are going to bash, get your facts straight, one of the greatest and most touching scenes from Season One is Sawyer telling Jack about his encounter with his Dad.

And don't forget, it is TV! Entertainment! Don't let it ruin your day!

I mean, I totally agree with you on some points, the vacination shots Charlie gave to Clair and why Michael just isn't straight with them about the plot (then again, he does think they abandoned him and he is slightly... unhinged.... from the kidnapping of his son), but it is just TV and I am confident the writers have a plan!

#215. Posted by: sarah at May 19, 2006 12:21 PM

My bad. Sawyer did tell Jack about that last season. I forgot.

And I don't want to stop watching the show-- I want it to return to its former greatness.

Still think Michael played that terribly. A minute of exposition would've saved him a lot of bloodshed.

#216. Posted by: T-raz at May 19, 2006 12:41 PM

Maybe in order for michael to get the boat he had to kill AL and we just didn't see that part

#217. Posted by: Hey at May 19, 2006 12:46 PM

agree wiv sarah if u dont like it why watch it?, the others aren't really gonna giv walt back. jim leigh i also saw the look on michaels face after he sed 'Henry' but i didnt think of he would not no the name at this time.

#218. Posted by: style-z at May 19, 2006 1:08 PM

OK, I'll concede that there could be a missing scene between Ms. Klugh/Clue and Michael that will come out in another season or two, so it's POSSIBLE that she also wanted AL killed, but I still think that's unlikely to have happened and doesn't add much to the plot (y'know from my all-knowing perspective, that is).

But based on the info we have right now, we know that Michael's son was forced out of his life for many years by his baby mama. Now that he finally has him back in his life and they are making real daddy-son relationship progress, a bunch of people kidnap him and hold him hostage. We also know he's been told to do two things: free Faux HG and bring back the Fab 4. Otherwise, he will never see his son alive again. Now, what parent in that situation wouldn't commit murder to get their son back?? Put yourselves in his shoes. I think a term like "cold blooded murderer" is a little off base. Mind you, I still don't like Michael, but I can understand where he is coming from and given the same situation, I can't honestly say that I wouldn't also commit murder to save my son's life.

#219. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 1:16 PM

I found an update in the diary today...

#220. Posted by: Aztecdoug at May 19, 2006 1:25 PM

I don't think the syringe thing with Michael was faked. Mike was clearly in pain when it happened, so any 'fakeness' seen with closer observation is because the syringe was a prop on a TV show. But real as far as the show goes.

I'm surprised so many think Dr. Dad is still alive, and that he's involved with the Others/Dharma. I think that's ridiculous. He clearly drank himself to death and his body was identified by Jack. We really DON'T know for sure if Jack was able to take his body on the plane, though my guess is yes since Jack acted surprised that the body wasn't in the coffin. And there are a lot of explanations for why the body was gone from the coffin, as posted by many previously. I think Jack's 1/2 sibling will come into play in the story soon, but Dr. Dad will only ever be seen again in flashbacks.

socompletelylost's explanation above (12:00pm post) about why Michael did what he did is perfect. Yes Mike is now a murderer, but he only did what he did because he was desperate, saw the opportunity, and took it. It's not THAT far out of character for a man in his shoes.

There definitely WAS a plane crash. The Lostaways were all in the airport together (with non-Lostaways), they all got on the plane together, and they all went down with it. The producers made this perfectly clear when they physically SHOWED the tail section crashing into the water. There really was a crash- that's not the mystery, and any speculation otherwise is going a little too deep. The producers are trying to keep us guessing, but they wouldn't so grossly mislead on the point that is the whole premise of the show: Oceanic flight 815 CRASHED on the island. The real mystery is WHY it crashed, and WHY all the people in the crash were so connected and integrated into each others lives before the crash.

Of course, I could be the one who is full of CRAP, and YOU could be right.

All I know is that I really ENJOY using all caps for emphasis.

#221. Posted by: JoePike at May 19, 2006 1:56 PM

I think it's possible they ordered him to kill AL and we didn't see it. I also think it's possible that Michael has felt for quite awhile that the other losties weren't supportive enough in his desires to go get Walt back. Then, the Others told him his friends abandoned him, and left him for two weeks of interrogation (that we didn't see, could've included torture, drugging, who knows what...) Plus, he had a bad introduction to AL and the Tailies, knows she killed Shannon, likely has no love lost for her.

So it's not necessarily something any of us, sitting in our air conditioned houses, safe and secure, could see as "rational" or "plausible" behavior, but all of these factors plus those already mentioned about his feelings as an absentee father, etc, could lead to his killing AL to accomplish his goals.

As far as Jack's dad being alive... could be an interesting twist. Considering that he was busted for being drunk in the OR, depending on previous behavior, it would be very difficult for him to keep his medical license (without going to rehab, supervision, etc)... as a big shot surgeon, he might've been approached by someone (Hanso/Dharma) and offered a new "job" ... it's possible.

Also, Lindelhof has said there is NO UNIFYING THEORY of the Island, so don't look for one. IMHO, this is a good thing, because the only way to explain it all would have to be supernatural or some sort of dream, which would indeed suck.

I'm beginning to come around to the theory that there is *one* group of Others and they're simply all pretending for Michael (or any other observer's) benefit... still, there could be two (the black-rock survivors theory intrigues me)...

I didn't have Tivo so I didn't notice the absence of a needle, although they might've simply removed it for simplicity sake (since it would've punctured a ziploc, and they didn't want him toting around a sharps box). I wondered if maybe it was one of those w/ a sheild on it, but I guess not. Still, I don't think the blood draw was "staged" - although that's an interesting possibility.

all for now,

#222. Posted by: biohazard at May 19, 2006 2:01 PM

Two more quick things:

1. Did anyone else notice how Sayid grasped Michael's hand with both of his? I think he was checking his pulse to see if Mike was calm or unsteady, as one would assume a liar might be a bit nervous and his pulse would race. I just thought that was very cool.

2. Regarding the Others knowing that Sawyer is 'James Ford', we should keep in mind that Oceanic is likely run by Dharma (this has been more or less assumed for a while, as I recall) and so, with that in mind, they would have known *exactly* who was on the plane.

If they will simply answer how in the world they managed to get all the 'key people' on the plane at the same time, I think I would be satisified.

Oh, and I want to be the first (I think) to say that I hope Hurley get's a chance to kick Michael's @$$, should 'the truth' be uncovered. After Hurley's "I'm glad you're ok man" to Michael, he deserves full Klingon-style revenge on him.

#223. Posted by: The Duf at May 19, 2006 2:03 PM

Duf, great point about Sayid grabbing both of Michael's wrists. I didn't catch that, but you are so right. As a former interrogator, he would certainly have had some training in that type of makeshift lie detector stuff.

Also, how come they haven't rewound the Betamax tapes from the video surveillance in the Pearl? : )

#224. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 2:20 PM

Great review Mac. No mention of "pippi longstocking and the great grape!" That has got to be one of Sawyer's best lines yet!

THANK GOD FOR SAYID...finally someone who has some sense about him. Now if Kate would just tell everyone about the friggin costumes she found in the locker. I hope we see an episode where Sayid, Locke and Eko join forces and kick some OTHER ass!!!! I could watch these three actors for hours and hours!!!

The best show on tv!

#225. Posted by: Kimberly at May 19, 2006 2:22 PM

Who ever said that there were tapes "recording" the people?? It was just a closed circuit viewing like at a store when you see yourself on tv.....I serioulsy doubt that they had enough tapes to continuously record 24 hours a day.....where were they? did you see them? of course not. There'd be a pile a mile high. stop and stop now

#226. Posted by: ENOUGH ALREADY at May 19, 2006 2:26 PM

Sorry, ENOUGH ALREADY, I thought there were tapes. But you're right, there couldn't be tapes, I mean, they are in purgatory, right?

#227. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 2:37 PM

socompletelylost - you're bad. ; )

#228. Posted by: AmyK at May 19, 2006 2:42 PM

Regardless of whether there are tapes or not (personally I also tend to think not) there certainly must be an *amazing* amount of infrastructure under the ground. Just laying out the cables for electricity, never mind all the data connections, would be quite the project. A mundane consideration perhaps, but it speaks to the idea of the island not being 'just' an island, but in fact a massively "built" area.

I mean, come on. Construction people, speak up here for a couple posts, how long would it take to excavate, build, refill, etc? And it's not just the cables, it's the hatches and whatever else we haven't even SEEN yet! We are talking many YEARS of effort here folks, not just some slapped-together quick-n-dirty project!

Thank god Dharma owns Widmore, eh? :)

#229. Posted by: The Duf at May 19, 2006 2:44 PM

Relax enough already, haven't you ever heard or sarcasm?

Hold on tight, I'm going to blow everyone away . . . . has anyone ever thought that just maybe they could be in purgatory???

#230. Posted by: Mary at May 19, 2006 2:46 PM

Here's a thought. Quite a few people have previously mentioned how odd the "See you in the funny papers" comment was. I agree. That seemed an incredibly odd and outdated thing to say. Could this be connected with the theory some have that time travel is involved on this island. I'm thinking back to the army knife Goodwin had, the Glenn Miller Orchestra we heard playing, and various other connections to WWII. Does that fit the timeline with those other things?

#231. Posted by: AmyK at May 19, 2006 2:47 PM

OK, I know I'm bad....sorry everyone, I'll behave. : (

#232. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 2:48 PM

PS. I love you, Mary.

#233. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 19, 2006 2:49 PM

Just catching up with all of the posts, and have some thoughts...

1. I think Michael saw an opportunity to free HG and took it. AL was collateral damage, and Libby too. Period. *I* don't think there's anything else to it than that.

2. I agree that Michael SHOULD HAVE told the Losties what had actually happened, and tried to get them involved with a plan to dupe the Others AND get Walt back, but A) the serious answer - I think he's been through some serious stress and might not be thinking straight and/or B), the not so serious answer - he's got something seriously UGLY growing on his forehead that may be effecting his ability at rational critical thought.

3. I think the Others drew his blood to do a paternity test to see if he really is Walt's father...or maybe to see if he's Sun's baby's father! Or maybe it was to run tests to see if Walt's extraordinary genes came from Michael or Walt's mother.

4. I think Ms. Klugh (i watched the episode with closed captioning on so I could see all of what was said) told Michael that if he did all they asked they'd let him and Walt go because she knew, even if Michael was able to achieve his mission, that UGLY thing on his head is going to kill him anyway!

5. Doesn't anyone remember how badly Claire wanted to go find the vaccine in the medical hatch to get for her baby when she thought he was developing a rash? That's why she's happy about Charlie giving her the vaccine!! She's convinced that they're a good thing and that they're needed by her and her baby because of the days she spent drugged up with Ethan in the medical hatch. Seemed pretty obvious/believable to me.

6. I think that this is what's going to shake out in the finale....Locke is walking off at the end of this episode, and he's on his way to beat the computer with Eko's Jesus Stick. He's going to break it, Eko can't enter the numbers, lockdown occurs, the magnet goes into action and a plane passing (relatively)nearby the island is going to crash on the beach. Fortunately, Jack, Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Michael, (and Sayid and Jin who are following them unbenounced to Michael) had already left to "get Walt back" so they won't be hurt by the crash, but the cliffhanger will be who is going to live through it. Of course there's all of the Desmond action that fits in there somewhere...but not quite sure how.

Just my opinions...throwing it out there for discussion.

#234. Posted by: SthrnMstKGirl at May 19, 2006 2:53 PM

In regards to the crash, I want to know how is it that only certain people survived the crash and others didn't? Why was Jack so far away from the rest of the survivors? It will be interesting to see how all that plays out.

One other thing I would like to mention is Michael is obviously not acting rational at all, regardless of brain washing or not, he's been through hell. So I think rationality in any of his actions should be thrown out of the window. Especially since his son's well being is involved.

#235. Posted by: IcebergSlimm at May 19, 2006 3:02 PM

I've been a HUGE fan/supporter of the idea that the "big magnet" pulls the planes, ships, what-have-you in, ever since it was brought into the show.

But one point has always corrupted this theory... IF typing the numbers keeps the magnet from working, and if Desmond never missed a set (maybe he did, but let's go with the idea he didn't) then when Oceanic 815 was 'in range', it stands to reason there is a remote control to turn that sucker on, right?

Think about it. If you want to draw in a plane at a specific time, you can't rely on some introverted fellow living down in a hole with an old Apple II.

I do believe the magnet does it, but I have been going nuts trying to put the pieces together in a way that makes sense and still "answers the details".

Well, hopefully we'll know next week.

#236. Posted by: The Duf at May 19, 2006 3:20 PM

SthrnMstKGirl- I like the way you are thinking. I thought too that the crash they show isn't the original crash from Season 1. This will also allow for more characters to be developed. And it would be a great cliffhanger for the writers of LOST to throw out there. I know we will get some answers this week, but they would be idiots to not have some sort of cliffhanger.

Love this show!!!!!

#237. Posted by: Finale is coming!!!! at May 19, 2006 3:20 PM

i agree with IcebergSlimm that Michael is not acting rational. in fact, i don't remember him acting rational ever in this show. especially ever since walt was taken. remember when the tailies and the rafties were headed back to the hatch, michael so stupidly ran away and was running around screaming walt's name like a maniac despite being warned a million times that the others were dangerous and they didn't want to run into them. i have always disliked his character so maybe its just my hate for him but thats what i think.

and for whoever was offended by my spoilers, i am very sorry but i remember the desmond being in the finale being mentioned a while ago so it wasn't meant to be a spoiler on my part...however i am very sorry!

socompletelyLost, i agree that its about time that someone in that damn purgatory rewind those tapes!!!!

#238. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 19, 2006 3:21 PM

I just saw a new trailer for the upcoming 2 hr finale. on abc website In it,
Jack is shooting a gun and telling everyone to run,
Eko is pushing the button, but nothing is happening, he looks surprised.
Locke is locking someone up and saying "none of this is real"
Charlie is blown off his feet by an explosion
Jack is yelling at Michael to "tell them the truth"

-other observations from Wed. night. "See you in the funny pages" line. I think Walt can make certain things happen or appear by drawing them, who knows.

And- no one mentioned Ms. Klue telling Walt she will put him back in the room. What is so threatening about "the room" is it a place where he is forced to see everyone's thoughts - like a total overload for him - don't know, but I'm sure it is more than just a simple "time out - go to your room" punishment.

#239. Posted by: rick at May 19, 2006 3:57 PM

Maybe Michael didn't tell Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sawyer the truth, and ask for their help, was because he couldn't take no for an answer.

Maybe Michael felt AnaLucia had it coming because of Shannon.

Maybe they should take the boat, and head in the direction of that big cable that comes up out of the ocean, onto the beach. Maybe it's connected to the nearest land mass?

Maybe Charlie tested the vaccine because he has no fear of needles. At all.

Maybe the vaccine's not really a vaccine at all, and used for some sort of mind control experiment, or something... "Here, take this, it will help you..."

Maybe the Others couldn't go get FHG because they fear the Cerebus?

Hmmm... Ok, back to work for me...

#240. Posted by: lostchao at May 19, 2006 3:58 PM

Is it just me or does everybody else laugh when they show "losties" we have never been introduced to standing around. Like at AL and Libby's funeral. It is really funny seeing these people, what the hell do they do all day - make food for Hurley.

#241. Posted by: Rick at May 19, 2006 4:29 PM

Thanks for the memory jog about Walt having to "go to the room", but given the psych grad student's affinity for BF Skinner, I think there's a good chance that it's some sort of "Skinner Box" used for 'raising' (ie. conditioning) children.

It'd be interesting to get ahold of CVs for the shows writers, to see who has the psych degree, etc... :)

I think the funny papers line has to be a purposeful anachronism, perhaps some people have been there for a very long time - with all the other WWII tie-ins and such.

I also like the idea that there is a magnetic system not actually controlled by the computer in the hatch... it could be controlled by remote, so used to pull in Oceanic 815, and fired up in the previous episode to "scare" Locke and Jack when they delayed inputting the numbers, etc. Since we know the Swan is under video monitoring, it'd be easy for a remote observer to "fire up" the magnet if the test subjects dallied in entering the number.


#242. Posted by: biohazard at May 19, 2006 4:37 PM

In response to D LostinBoston who wrote that he could not buy the short timeframe and rational for Michael turning into a cold-blooded killer-- I agree that what we witnessed would not do it for the normal person, but Michael has been a breath away from going 'wack job' since the first time we saw him in Season 1. That guy is an enigma 'fa shur. I'm just surprised it took him this long to kill someone. That said, he has never actually gone off the deep end like he did with Ana (and then Libby - the mistake). Even after Jin tried to kill him last season, Michael still was able to hold back from going completely nuts... Wait, am I debating myself? Nuff said - Out--

#243. Posted by: JL815 at May 19, 2006 5:12 PM

Hi Rick,

"It is really funny seeing these people, what the hell do they do all day?"

Good point. But when you think about it, what do ANY of them do all day? In most cases, any action taken is a result of something else having happened, right? The castaways are great at reacting to events, but seem to do very little at initiating anything.

And the lack of communication... if I was on that island, I'd sure be telling every last little detail to anyone who would listen to me: "I found a medical hatch, I found disguises, I found (insert here)", instead it's like this is a contest to see who can figure out what's going on. Is there a prize for this? :)

Remember when LEAVING was a goal? I still laugh at Bernard's comment a few episodes back, "My god Rose, they've set up a kitchen on the beach!" It was an excellent point, it was just the wrong person making it, since Rose has to stay here (it seems) for her to be well and not die, so Bernard let it go.

Some people may leave, but you can also almost guarantee that many will choose to stay. Locke doesn't want to go back to a wheelchair. Rose doesn't want to die. Kate is wanted for murder. There is a nice little group forming of people with NO motivation to ever leave.

Could make an interesting ending.

#244. Posted by: The Duf at May 19, 2006 5:13 PM

AmyK - the time travel theory supports the fact that the equipment is so old. I think you are on to something.

#245. Posted by: Meg at May 19, 2006 6:54 PM

In regards to Michael's bizarre behavior, let's remember the Other's were interogating him for a week. An entire week we haven't been privy to so really who knows what happended to the guy, he still could've been brainwashed and/or drugged and manipulated somehow.

#246. Posted by: Joss at May 19, 2006 7:19 PM

I totally laugh at the 'losties'. I especially liked the gaggle of girls crying out "It's Michael, it's Michael" when he returned to the beach. Even he didn't seem to recognize them!

#247. Posted by: Joss at May 19, 2006 7:22 PM


Ok, did anyone else slo mo the preview for next week? i dont know, but it looks like our little kate gets onein the back....and thats not another way of sayin, "caught in a net"

this is the start of next weeks episode the 3 amigos(sayeed, jack and his new BFF sawyer yell out "last one in's a rotten egg!!" and go swimming out to the boatand see that its been adrift for a couple weeks with a lone sailor. he's passed out in the hull of the ship cause his automatic injection gun is on the fritz and he cant give him self his shots. its our old friend desmond! they take him ashore and thank goodness theres a good injector on the beach under the baby's crib. he goes on to tell them that since he cant get off gilligans' island, he's gonna join up with them. BAM new good guy!!
so sayeed and jin hop on the boat and take off for the shipping lanes while michael and the fantastic 4 start heading into the jungle after the others. good ole mike thinks things are goin as he's planned when they're ambushed by zeke, the other whizzer, and a bunch of other's but he doesnt expect to see sayeed adn jin running off of the beach behind them!. MORE others come running out of the hatch to help their comrades' but the spoiler of the week is comin so if you dont wnat to know, stop reading now...............ok, this is it, guess who comes out of the trees to the losties' rescue...the islands version of the dynamic duo, the coffee and cream of the crop...eko and locke!! eko parts the others with his whoopin stick like moses parted the sea and locke is slicin and dicin em like the iron chef of the south pacific with his set of ginsu cutlery. oh, but like i said, kate gets shot, and it doesnt look good.

hope you liked my totally fabricated vision of next weeks final episode.
just one more "Key Points" to go
have a great summer mac!

paid for by JEEP

#248. Posted by: marls at May 19, 2006 7:24 PM

Walt's comment that "they aren't who they say they are. They're pretending." might also be significant in that almost all of the losties have also had reason for pretending and not being who they say they are. I realize this might be overstating the obvious, but perhaps the losties and the others are more closely linked than we think? Perhaps that's part of the reason they ended up on the island to begin with?

#249. Posted by: DJ at May 19, 2006 7:35 PM

Kate is a fox(!?) She seems to keep alot of information to herself. Did she miss that Michael was present when she was taken? Maybe. Maybe not. Is it not possible that Kate's wicked stepfather, whom she murdered, is not her father? When she confronts the "real" father with the fact that she knows he is not her father, does he ever confirm that the stepfather was her real father. Maybe it's someone else. Jack's dad? Regarding Libby and no last name...maybe her name wasn't given any consideration because she wasn't with the group.
I think the group is going to have a big decision coming up after the 4 losties are captured. Make their escape or rescue their "friends" as they uncover the truth of the island/ experiment.

#250. Posted by: laura lewis at May 19, 2006 8:09 PM

The funnyest thing on this Ep. was when Charlie says You just run off in the middle of the night grab your Jesus stick and leave. Ha i laghed over the Jesus Stick thing a few times i know it doesnt sound funny but when he says it it is.

#251. Posted by: The Smoke Thing at May 19, 2006 10:10 PM

Holy crap!!!!!!! Go to The Ofical Lost website owned by ABC and then go to the part were u can watch lost for free then once it loads click launch then lost then click on the arrow going down then youll see the Ep. for next week preveiw and theres a picture of DESMOND!!!! So that had to be him on the boat the only question to be answered is how did he get off th friggin Island???????

#252. Posted by: The Smoke Thing at May 19, 2006 10:51 PM

1. On the two groups of Others - The barefoot small people/children carrying stuffed animals is yet to be explained.

2. Why hasn't Eko found and removed the camera he knows is in the Swan hatch?


#253. Posted by: DW at May 20, 2006 12:07 AM

I'm compelled to believe, ( I like that word, ...compelled, it's compelling ) anyway, that the "others" had something to do with the plane crash cuz Goodwin was right on the scene at the time of the crash.

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#254. Posted by: thinng at May 20, 2006 1:17 AM

My final prediction before the Grand Finale:

1.) There is a physical plane crash, it is real.
2.) However the others (or Dharma) would never risk losing their carefully selected guinea pigs in a messy crash, so here's how I see it:
a.) The plane enters a certain lat/lon and time/altitude where it is drawn by some force to the hidden island (by a major magnetic force, such as the rock within the island itself.)
b.) The plane dives, and oxygen masks fall, but they deliver oxygen combined with a drug...putting all passengers to sleep.
c.) The pilot is a Dharma agent and lands the plane on a secret air strip. Only the "Losties" are removed; several hours later the copilot is asked to fly the plane out.
d.) However the plane is programmed to break apart and crash, which is the first scene of Lost. Dharma makes sure no one survives, save Kate's escort.
e.) Shortly after the crash the Losties are planted just before they awaken.
f.) The very open ended experiment begins, giving the writers total freedom week to week.
g.) The connections between characters, such as Libby and Hurley, have to do with the Dharma agents who select more than one character per outside location. Thus there is no unified theory involving all characters, save that they are all channelled to fly from Australia on the same plane.
h.) The goal for next season, escape the island and get to the bottom of Dharma.

It just makes no sense that a force would lead planes to crash in the hope of randomly finding subjects to experiment on. Researchers never work on random test animals in their laboratories...they're always carefully selected, having similar qualities.

#255. Posted by: Loz at May 20, 2006 2:46 AM

Stick to the recap stuff i can do without the jokes, your not funny.

#256. Posted by: DIRTBAG at May 20, 2006 3:25 AM

guys, no plane is going 2 be sucked in jack, kate, michael, sawyer are going 2 break into the other camp and get back the other 23 people who were kidnapped, so new characters will be introduced there

#257. Posted by: style-z at May 20, 2006 4:21 AM

Actually DIRTBAG, most of us think Mac is quite funny and enjoy his recaps and humor. Perhaps another blog would be more suited to your taste.

#258. Posted by: AmyK at May 20, 2006 9:43 AM

Another note about the watches. Remember that in the first season Jin just about killed Michael for "stealing" a watch. He and his wife were delivering watches. Could this be a connection.

Another connection I see is even stronger (I think). The question mark is located under the plane. Remember in season one when Boone and Locke found the plane? Locke started loosing his ability to walk again. Then Locke dreamed about seeing Yemi in a wheelchair in the exact same spot. Could it be that that place somehow escapes the magical wonders of the island. Although I do realize in season two he doesn't lose his ability to walk. I think I'm on this site too much (when I start contradicting myself in the same paragraph!). I still think the wheelchair thing means something.

#259. Posted by: meg at May 20, 2006 11:41 AM

I think Jorge Garcia did GREAT, KG. He played it just like he was supposed to play it. He's not suave and he's supposed to be a guy who's not good with words.

Good recap, as always. I was incredibly happy that Sayid figured Micheal's plan out. It's good that SOMEONE has some sense on the island!

Loz, that's a pretty cool theory. It makes sense.
great recap again.

#260. Posted by: fromanotherplanet18 at May 20, 2006 12:39 PM

i'm still thinking (and has anyone brought this up?) that they will be in purgatory....and that the skiing will be fantastic come winter.

#261. Posted by: Laura at May 20, 2006 2:44 PM

Sorry to join the convo so late...been sick all week and it seems most of what I had to say has been addressed...but a few things:
-@howcurious: I like the multiple Walt theory...especially since we have known that one of the experiments Hanso supports involves clonig since last season....did we ever actually see Walt's mom die?
-@socompletelylost...I really enjoyed your eulogy to the former "Jerk-a-loo"...I agree that the funny pages is a reference to the comic Walt reads...wasn't Michael involved in comic writing or illustrating? I thought that was his goal in life as an artist?
-Question: Why is Kate so mum about what she knows? Still hasn't told too many people about the medical hatch and costumes....and also, didn't she SEE Michael when they were both first captured by Zeke et al? Or was she already under the burlap bag?
-Could Eko's parish in England have something to do with Charlie?
-I don't know about y'all, but Charlie did NOT seem pleased to see Michael when everyone else did on the beach...what could this mean?
-Does anyone on the island call Hurley "Hugo"? If not, how come neither Hurley nor Kate caught this when Michael began helping dig the graves? He had found about about Hurley's real name from Ms. Klugh
-Maybe the "fab 4" are related??? I remember a few forums ago some of us thinking that maybe Kate and Sawyer were long lost relatives??? Could the four of them be related somehow?
-Finally, mr. thinng, it appears that you were right this whole time...ain't no way all those survivors are going to fit...they are definitely "gonna nedd a bigger boat"...

My apologies if I have repeated many an item from previous I am sick, I only skimmed most of them...


#262. Posted by: Vikki at May 20, 2006 4:38 PM

mac, you are the shit

#263. Posted by: lost fan at May 20, 2006 4:47 PM

lost fan -- I'll take that as a compliment ;)

Total sidenote: My all-time favorite compliment (and this wasn't paid to me, I just heard it in conversation) is the immortal:

"you are shit on toast!"

Dirty. Gross. Doesn't make any sense. And funny as hell. It's the perfect compliment! -- Mac

#264. Posted by: mac at May 20, 2006 4:52 PM

Dirtbag, you nailed it with your screen name. Go find another blog to be miserable on. I'm with AmyK; Mac's reviews are hysterical. Keep up the good work, Mac!

#265. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 20, 2006 9:55 PM

There has been a lot of talk about a large magnet being used to pull down the planes. Most planes are made of aluminum and composite materials which are non-ferous and therefore non-magnetic. I can't see this magnetic field as a method of crashing the planes.

A strong magnet could be used to disrupt the electronic on the plane but at a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet it would have to be one hell of a strong and well directed magnetic field to knock out the plane circuitry.

If the plane were to loose all power, it would still be able to glide for a fairly long distance before touching down.

I think it is the smoke monster that itercepts the planes and brings them down in a controlled way, instead of the normal everyone dies plane crash scenario.

It's protecting the island by allowing the Dharma research to continue, and supplying the researchers with new subjects. Pretty creepy.

Just a few thoughts.

#266. Posted by: Glen at May 20, 2006 11:33 PM

im with amy k and SCL if u dont like this site go and stop the stupid posts dirtbag

#267. Posted by: style-z at May 21, 2006 4:51 AM

You should check this blog out if you like lost.

#268. Posted by: Dave at May 21, 2006 5:02 AM

pheraps the Island is 'Him' the Island gave Lockes use of his legs back and gave it away in 'Dues ex machina' Gale sed god cant see the 'island and the monster is the 'eye' of the island as sed by locke.

#269. Posted by: style-z at May 21, 2006 8:12 AM

A few things:

1. dirtbag that was rude and uncalled for. mac's hillarious.

2. I'm confused about Jack's dad's death. Ana Lucia went to Sydney with him, and her return flight was oceanic 815. If Jack's dad was with AL before the crash, then when did he die and get put in a coffin on the same plane as AL. How would the timing work for that?

3. What on earth is the connection between the four people on the list? connections between these 4:
-none of them tallies
-have caused others death (kate and sawyer have shot ppl, jack's a doctor, and hurley made the balconey fall
-have seen/ heard things in jungle

or maybe they want each of them for differant reasons:
-hugo and bad luck with numbers
-love triangle

4. Kate is GORGEOUS!!

#270. Posted by: bostonboy at May 21, 2006 6:42 PM

Wut do you bet the others aren't gonna hold up their end of the "deal" with micheal... and what would the others want from the people requested on the list? (jack, hurley, kate, sawyer, i don't remember the rest) and how the heck did they know their last names?!?!

#271. Posted by: Chris at May 21, 2006 8:18 PM

remember...AL left jacks dad at the bar in sydny. So after that she had no idea what happend to him. Desmond owns

#272. Posted by: Evan at May 21, 2006 9:47 PM

remember...AL left jacks dad at the bar in sydny. So after that she had no idea what happend to him. Desmond owns

#273. Posted by: Evan at May 21, 2006 9:47 PM

the correct definition of Namaste is,

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#274. Posted by: thinng at May 21, 2006 10:33 PM

Lost Fan and Dirtbag:

Why don't you both go get "caught in a net"?!!!

#275. Posted by: meg at May 22, 2006 7:18 AM

Meg, I think lostfan's comment "you are the shit" was truly a compliment. It might be translated as "you rock". At least, that's what it means in purgatory. You can verify that by rewinding the tapes in the Pearl.

#276. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 22, 2006 8:03 AM

Oh (oops). In that case....he can just enjoy being caught in that net... ;)

#277. Posted by: meg at May 22, 2006 9:16 AM


Loved the line also, but I think Sawyer referred to Hurley as 'Grape Ape', a Hanna Barbera cartoon on Saturday mornings in the 70's. Check him out here (
He's 40' tall and has a tremendous appetite, hence the nickname for ol' Hugo. Grape Ape also rides around on the top of his friend's van -- don't know the symbolism here yet ;-)

Question for all: Help me re: a season 1 issue --Rousseau's bunker. Is this a Dharma bunker and do we think it is on the blast door map? I missed this season 1, so I have never resolved this question in my mind. If it is Dharma, we have found another hatch no one talks about. If not, is it WWII related, as several thing seem to be?

Love the blog -- will miss the recaps and all of you faithful bloggers over the summer. Note to self: must find real life...

#278. Posted by: BELost at May 22, 2006 11:05 AM

Can someone please explain the WWII refrences I seem to have missed? I know the Mittlewerk/Hanso connection, but what else?

#279. Posted by: Joss at May 22, 2006 11:48 AM

Really there is no connection. There's that and then there's the fact that hurleys transistor radio picked up an old school mid 50's type music, and now this "other" said see you in the funny pages which is an old saying.

But people just want to see what they want to see.

They say that and then they forget the fact that there's VCRs and computers...

Maybe that guy said see you in the funny pages because the "others" have been there amongst themselves since back in the day and that guy was a child when he came there...

but really who cares?

#280. Posted by: Quit nitpicking-it's just a tv show at May 22, 2006 12:00 PM

You know, back on the whole mac funny/not funny thing.....

I have to say I find him more than amusing, but only when it appears to come naturally.
This week did seem like a bit much, almost a joke in every few sentences.

When you come to expect it, it stops being so funny. Just my thoughts, so I guess the marcs on here can start telling me to go somewhere else now.

#281. Posted by: OH, One more thing at May 22, 2006 12:07 PM

Funny, I was watching the history channel earlier (some show on comic books) and at the end there was an acceptance speech by an astronaught. I noticed that there was a dharma symbol hanging on the wall (minus the swan). I wonder if it is still on the wall of some congress room somewhere? Unrelated of course but interesting.

#282. Posted by: LostAsEver at May 22, 2006 12:13 PM

Actually, there were a few more -- a WWII era pocket knife (the one A-L used to kill Goodwin, that she got off the other Other she killed) and some possible WWII-era weapons owned by Others. I am not necessarily a proponent of the time travel theory -- these items and the radio transmissions and the bunker could be explained in other ways -- I am just trying to get some info on Danielle's bunker since I missed those episodes first season...

#283. Posted by: BELost at May 22, 2006 12:17 PM

I agree that we will miss LOST and the reveiws during the summer. Ugh! Looks like this will happen twice next season. USA Today reports: Lost will eliminate repeats next season, airing seven episodes in October and November, then taking a two-month break for a replacement series. When it returns in late January, the show will run 16 consecutive original episodes.

#284. Posted by: JT at May 22, 2006 12:26 PM

I've resisted the urge to jump into this whole funny/unfunny/jokes/no-jokes thing, but I now feel it's time to offer my own viewpoint on this matter. Feel free to jump ahead to another comment -- this really isn't all that interesting.

So here's the deal: This may seem a bit selfish, but the "jokes" I insert in these reviews are thrown in to amuse *me*. If other folks think they're funny, that's great. If not, that's great too. It's just my sense of humor -- some people might like it, some people might not. That's the great thing about opinions: everyone is entitled!

To my detractors/critics/people who think I'm lame: I gave up trying to be hip and cool a long time ago. I like what I like and the references I make are all over the place because my sense of humor is pretty weird. But that's just me.

Ultimately, these reviews are nothing more than a way to share "Lost." I don't think they're particularly important, nor do I consider myself a comedian. I just do what I do and I throw these weekly reviews out there for other people to read, enjoy, ignore, whatever.

Honestly, I don't mind criticism (note: this is different than not "feeling" criticism -- it definitely stings). DirtBag's comment was legitimate because it's DirtBag's opinion. Similarly, if folks think I've lost a step or the reviews just aren't that funny, so be it. My goal is simply to share my enjoyment of this show. Whether or not the reviews themselves are entertaining is totally out of my hands because entertainment/humor/enjoyment are all determined on an individual basis. I just know I get a kick out of writing these things and really, that's good enough for me. I plan on doing this until it's not fun anymore. When that day comes, I'll just hang it up. Between now and then, anyone and everyone are welcome to read/debate/criticize. It's all good by me! -- Mac

P.S. To the folks who jumped to my defense, I extend a big ol' Thank You! It means a lot and I really appreciate it.

#285. Posted by: mac at May 22, 2006 12:40 PM

Does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor that Hurley made a bet on Barbaro using the hatch's computer?

#286. Posted by: PAG at May 22, 2006 12:44 PM

Mac, your attitude is great. It goes perfectly with the freshness of your reviews and the humor you add - revealing your previous interests in some of the Classics (TV series) Keep up the great work and enjoy the season finale.

#287. Posted by: JT at May 22, 2006 12:54 PM

So, what's up with the Lost Diary? Steve's brother? Are we to assume that a main (named) character is writing this or someone we don't even know about, and quite frankly don't care about? I thought I had a good grasp on the diary until this week. Can anybody shed some light or some ideas?

#288. Posted by: hookedonlost at May 22, 2006 12:56 PM

Mac, the day you decide to 'hang it up' is the day we kidnap your dogs, tie you up in a teepee, say nothing to you except 'it's still fun' for a week, let the dogs lick your face for a brief 3 minutes, then let you go and not give the dogs back until your next review is written.

Don't worry all, this will be fun for Mac for a long time to come. The fact that he does it for himself is the key- a little criticism isn't going to derail him at all. And he gets praise from just about every poster anyway!

Side Note: TV airplanes are made of highly magnetic solid steel. Especially Oceanic TV airplanes.

#289. Posted by: JoePike at May 22, 2006 1:05 PM

I was in vegas and had to wait 4 extra days to catch this episode... somehow, waiting 4 extra days to read Mac's review was actually harder!

A lot of questions and theories about why these newly-listed losties were chosen - and about a possible connection between them.

The puzzling part of this to me is why the others didn't simply take Kate, Jack, and Sawyer while they had the perfect chance in "Hunting Party". I'd think 3 outta 4 aint bad? (4 outta 5 actually since they wanted Michael). Has something changed over the last 13 days that got them on the list? And why pass on Obi-Locke? Didn't HG say he was sent to bring back Locke? Could he have been lying?

And lastly, by adding Hurley to the list, they're definitely gonna need a bigger boat!!

#290. Posted by: Vacc at May 22, 2006 1:08 PM

the lost writers have publicly sed that they dont approve and have no control of the abc diary

well sed mac- and dont hang up 2 soon

#291. Posted by: Style-z at May 22, 2006 1:13 PM

Mac, you are feces on fried bread! Rock on buddy! :)

#292. Posted by: The Duf at May 22, 2006 1:16 PM

About FHG...maybe he originally did want Locke...but 'pocketed' a blood sample while helping Locke - when the door finally released Locke's leg...

#293. Posted by: DonnaD at May 22, 2006 1:26 PM

thats quite the theory

#294. Posted by: the artist formerly known as Style-Z at May 22, 2006 1:30 PM

Namaste means "the divine in me sees the divine in you"

#295. Posted by: paulswife at May 22, 2006 1:35 PM

Mac, your humor is witty and funny. I think you are very clever. Your jokes may be a little above the heads of "others" but not all of us :)

#296. Posted by: Ronny B at May 22, 2006 1:38 PM

I think what would be REALLY cool would be a flashback episode where we see what happened to Walt while he was with the Others. We'd find out about 'the room' he doesn't seem to like as well as more about his so called powers and why they are interested in them so much. There is always a chance Walt will be killed off in the finale or sometime soon though. That would take care of needing to explain Walt's changes in size/age. Hope that doesn't happen though.

I think continuing to introduce too many new characters would be a mistake...they have enough trouble getting the current cast into the story every week! Adding Desmond as a semi-permanent Lostaway would be great though. He could help answer a lot of questions. That is, if anyone bothers asking...

#297. Posted by: JoePike at May 22, 2006 1:45 PM

I did some extensive reasearch on "namaste" and I just pulled the following out of my a$$: "While in purgatory, it is critical to rewind the tapes so one can witness Michael's behavior."

#298. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 22, 2006 2:25 PM

Rick -- I like your idea that Walt can make drawings/cartoons/funny pages come to life (the bird hitting the window, the polar bear). Maybe he can summon them??

Also, regarding the "4 on the list", is it possible they're all the same age/same birthdate, maybe part of some baby experiment?

Mac, laughter keeps ya healthy, so thank you!!!

#299. Posted by: lost chao at May 22, 2006 2:57 PM

FHG sighting - he is the janitor in Saw that had to kidnap the wife and daughter of the doctor.

I knew that I had seen him before...although he didn't give as spectacular a performance as he has in Lost.

#300. Posted by: dknight at May 22, 2006 3:00 PM

Lost Chao - Kate's definitely younger than Jack and probably any of the other losties mentioned too. I like the way you're thinking though - we're all assuming it has something do with inter-relations with their characters or their previous lives, but it may be as simple as all the same age, or zodiac sign or they prefer coke to pepsi. ;-)

#301. Posted by: hookedonlost at May 22, 2006 3:12 PM

so what,...? I gotta go watch this ep again and see if that really is Desmond hangin' with the "others". Any confirmation ? anyone ?

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#302. Posted by: thinng at May 22, 2006 4:32 PM

Similar features, but not Desmond.

#303. Posted by: The Duf at May 22, 2006 5:08 PM

It's NOT Desmond!! Oh, wait. It is Desmond and this is all a dream, about Purgatory, and those Beta tapes are going to expose Michael, and we're going to need a bigger boat. (did I leave anything out that's been repeated ten thousand times?)

#304. Posted by: jes at May 22, 2006 5:34 PM

I'd rather comment on the show, but I feel compelled to throw my 2 cents into the Funny/Not Funny issue. I read the blog for it's content, but the humor is also entertaining and an added bonus.

If someone chooses to criticize anyone else's work, they should ask themselves if they could do the job better. If their answer is:

No: Then shut up.
Yes: Shut up anyway and start your own blog.

Again, keep up the good work Mac. We all appreciate it or we wouldn't be reading your work.

#305. Posted by: DW at May 22, 2006 7:15 PM

this is not purgatory....the hanso island is a research facility, some of which is defense science, is partially funded by defense, so some of its stuff is defense oreinted, like the swan....the powerlines go out to a grid under the beach, where fhe plane crashed, and the lines run to, and the swan has hot water because its a reactor. the candle guy lost his arm because the magnetic thing, thus a 108 minute failsafe is installed, the boat is drawn in to the beach where the plane crashed. What happened to the large pieces of fuselage? did they break them up and haoo them away? what happened to the engines.

#306. Posted by: martin at May 22, 2006 7:24 PM

Off topic : I think the comedy along the way is a great way to keep it intresting and is really funny. I enjoy it alot and want to hear more for next episode

On topic : ...4,8,15,16,23,42 4,8,15,16,23,42 4,8,15,16,23,42 4,8,15,16,23,42...

i cant get them out of my head!! im going crazy like hurleys friend! Ahh

#307. Posted by: Chris at May 22, 2006 8:30 PM

gee Lock, if the swan was so unimportant, why was it given an armory? of which the Others did not seem to have any until the "hunting party"? It says that the swan is to be protected from the outside invaders, thus the hatch had no handles on the outside of it...did the other doors have handles on the outside? the button is important, however pearls video was meant to hide its significance from the other hatches, the magnetics, maybe a form of sdi or something else, is guarded with deadly this the defense portion of project?

#308. Posted by: Martin at May 22, 2006 8:36 PM

Here's an intersting thought.

In the Pearl's orientation video, Wickman/Candle, mentions a ferry that will take you back to the mainland. What I think is, that Desmond was in the Pearl and is on the boat at the end of the episode, (because he and Kelvin drew the map on the blastdoors,) Desmond recorded what he saw in the notebooks. (and in the previews, they're standing by all these notebooks.) So, they're gonna read them, find out Michael iced Libby and AL, go back and have Sayid do some crazy Arab torture on his ass.

And everyones saying Mrs. Klugh's face is in Smokey. Can I get a picture?

And who's Mr.Klugh? Maube he was the lawyer and thats why Mrs.Klugh knows all those questions. Just a thought.

Any comments?

#309. Posted by: Murphdog at May 22, 2006 8:38 PM

yes Murphdog, that is an intresting theory and that would be pretty sweet to see desmond with the french chick coming to save them on that boat/yacht. but, lol, there gonna need a bigger boat... but wut if it turns on us and it is DHARMA boat! that would suck or if it was the others coming to take Aaron (Claires baby) just like they did walt (on a boat)

#310. Posted by: Chris at May 22, 2006 9:00 PM

Hooked on Lost -- so what you're saying is Coke drinkers will end up in purgatory?? :)

#311. Posted by: lost chao at May 23, 2006 7:15 AM

jes, You forgot to define Namaste again for us.

Last night I saw some different scenes from tomorrow's finale. There is no question that Desmond is there, but how he comes back is the question.
Maybe they will use the time travel theory to explain Walt's growth, but personally I think they'll just ignore that and let it slide. Kids on tv have always grown at unnatural rates. Claire's baby is pretty big as well.

#312. Posted by: meg at May 23, 2006 8:09 AM

Lost Chao -

Only if they don't rewind those damn tapes! ;)

#313. Posted by: hookedonlost at May 23, 2006 9:52 AM

The writers said they will address Walts growth in season 3

And we will be seeing new characters in season three as well....less flashbacks of the current people, more of the new people. We will get a sense of who these new people will be in the finale.

Also, more Rousseau (sp?) and Desmond next year.....

Straight from the writers/producers mouths my friend

#314. Posted by: YES at May 23, 2006 11:59 AM

I just watched the teaser for the finale and it sounds like the monster/security system/cerebrus back!

#315. Posted by: Joss at May 23, 2006 12:10 PM

Just a thought ... there was mention on one of the other blog sites (I know this is the only one we should be readng) that a lady in a headress was in the "smoke" during the Eko scene. The writers noted she would be of importance. Is this the famous Mrs Klugh?

#316. Posted by: spicey at May 23, 2006 12:24 PM

Excuse me if someone already caught this but ... I was looking on the oceanic website. The plane has 42 rows. Could the numbers be making reference to the passengers in the cooresponding rows?

Row 4 was in first class
Row 8 is businees class
The rest are in the economy class

Very interesting...

#317. Posted by: spicey at May 23, 2006 12:54 PM

DIRTBAG - Judge not, lest ye be judged. In other words....check yourself before you wreck yourself. God bless you for proving that freedom of speech and free will reign supreme.

mac - you have a very bright and prosperous future, keep it up!!!

#318. Posted by: maxlife at May 23, 2006 1:03 PM

Guess what comes on tomorrow? Ooh, exciting!

I've been reading these theories... Do any of you go back and re-read your theories after they've been disproved on the show? Like all those theories from season 1, do you ever re-read those? They're funnier than Mac's blog. I try to keep them to myself because I am about 1% on my theories. Don't take it the wrong way, there are a few that don't sound so outragous, but even before the theory is proved wrong, there are some funny kook ones.

Keep up the theories though, I'm sure the writers read them so they can make their stories nothing like our theories (That... doesn't rhyme).

Anyway, I really think the Chupacabra did this. We haven't heard from it in a while, so I think they've recruited it.

#319. Posted by: The Chupacabra at May 23, 2006 2:55 PM

Why was that big 'ole cable running into the ocean in that season one episode? Where does it go on the island? What could it be running to in the ocean? Is it a 'force field' generator?

#320. Posted by: Mike at May 23, 2006 3:27 PM

Yep, definitely not Desmond.

Who raised that flag anyway ? sheesh...

Feed 'em to the Dharma sharks !

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#321. Posted by: thinng at May 23, 2006 4:53 PM

I for one think it was Desmond on at the Others camp last week. I compared it to a older picture of him, I'm almost certain it is him. And after seeing the previews for tomorrows show, I'm sure of it. . . . but I guess we'll see for sure tomorrow night. . . can't wait

And DirtBag I won't comment on you because it's not nice to curse and call people names

#322. Posted by: Mary at May 23, 2006 6:30 PM

obladi oblada

Desmond is a former Dharma researcher (computer programmer?) who escaped the overthrow of the original peaceful Dharma by a high level government power figure in the U.S. This overthrow turned Dharma into a Biological Weapons lab, run by an exreme element of the current US Government, not sanctioned by the President. (Which is why we hear a lot about a vaccine.) Desmond can come and go at will, and is the rebel leader.

Because of the U.S. Government connection the rebels must desparately pull in a passenger plane in the hope that the occupants will help out. The despots, however, quickly cull out "good" characters from among the 48 survivors to use as forced recruits, which they do until the survivors organize and put up a fight. The swan and pearl hatches were not known to the despots, as they were a hidden part of the original Dharma. They are now safe havens for the rebels, which explains why Locke and Echo have not revealed the pearl hatch, and why Walt is able to communicate on the networked computer. The computerized numbering scheme was programmed by the rebels to keep the Losties away from traps on the island's other side. The mysterious island is good, but evil forces are threatening to completely control it, as well as use it as a place from which to control the world.

FHG was intentionally captured to spy on the hatch.

#323. Posted by: Loz at May 23, 2006 7:16 PM

the swan is a magnetic station....nuke powered, thats why the hot water for kates shower, and all the pipes, in the previews we see a key to be turned, maybe the kind of key used to arm a nuke icbm or something, the lines in season one run off the beach to a magnetic generator field under the shallow beach water...maybe its for catching warheads or something, maybe it generates a progressive magnetic field, like a runway that planes can land on, it was important, they had a big armory to defend it, lots of guns, more than 2 could use....what was that pile of tubes behind jack and michael? were they bones? the blast doors came down last time because of the airborne balloon drop/threat.....the swan orientation was on projection 8mm in order to insure it would survive the magnetic fields generated as the swan goes through its 108 minute maintenance cycle...the dome of the swan seems to be a field shelter, where the swan can't fry its own brain...the pearl is just stocked with dummies who record events w/o really knowing the meaning of any of it...

#324. Posted by: martin at May 23, 2006 9:55 PM

the swan is a magnetic station....nuke powered, thats why the hot water for kates shower, and all the pipes, in the previews we see a key to be turned, maybe the kind of key used to arm a nuke icbm or something, the lines in season one run off the beach to a magnetic generator field under the shallow beach water...maybe its for catching warheads or something, maybe it generates a progressive magnetic field, like a runway that planes can land on, it was important, they had a big armory to defend it, lots of guns, more than 2 could use....what was that pile of tubes behind jack and michael? were they bones? the blast doors came down last time because of the airborne balloon drop/threat.....the swan orientation was on projection 8mm in order to insure it would survive the magnetic fields generated as the swan goes through its 108 minute maintenance cycle...the dome of the swan seems to be a field shelter, where the swan can't fry its own brain...the pearl is just stocked with dummies who record events w/o really knowing the meaning of any of it...

#325. Posted by: martin at May 23, 2006 9:56 PM

Hugh McIntyre from the HANSO Foundation will be on Jimmy Kimmel's May 24th show. Who's Hugh?

#326. Posted by: Jimmy at May 23, 2006 9:56 PM

oh yeah, the plane crashed because the magnet pulled the coffin around and through aluminum fuselage...

#327. Posted by: martin at May 23, 2006 10:07 PM

While it's true a magnet won't attract a jet plane by sheer force, it can wreak havoc on a planes electrical system, causing the hydraulic system to fail, and even engine failure.

#328. Posted by: Loz at May 24, 2006 1:17 AM

After Rousseau capture HG in her net trap and delivered him to the Losties, where the hell has she been?!

#329. Posted by: Lois at May 24, 2006 1:39 AM

Ever stop to think the writers do not know where to go with the plot, and are using all these interesting, well-thought-out comments to help them to plan ahead?! That's why we get 4-5 weeks of reruns periodically!

#330. Posted by: Hooked on Lost at May 24, 2006 1:41 AM

Ever stop to think the writers do not know where to go with the plot, and are using all these interesting, well-thought-out comments to help them to plan ahead?! That's why we get 4-5 weeks of reruns periodically!

#331. Posted by: Hooked on Lost at May 24, 2006 1:43 AM

martin - Magnetic tapes will have all data stored on them erased with a strong magnetic field. In fact, that's exactly how data is erased on tapes.

#332. Posted by: DW at May 24, 2006 6:26 AM

Rick: That is one of the best theories I have ever read about Walt being able to create things and then literally animate them....would explain the bear! I never really thought the bear had anything else to do with the experiment or Dharma.....I love it!

Thinng....they are definitely gonna need a bigger boat...

#333. Posted by: Vikki at May 24, 2006 6:28 AM

The countdown begins. 12 hours to LOST!!!!

#334. Posted by: The Countdown at May 24, 2006 9:24 AM

Desmond got caught in the Dharma crap just like the our favorite Lostaways did. He was on a trip/race around the world, somehow got stuck on the island, and found Kelvin. Kelvin convinced him that he needed to be vaccinated every so often and recruited him to help with entering the numbers into the computer. Kelvin told Desmond the trouble that would ensue if the numbers weren't entered, and that's why he religiously did it, even after Kelvin died and he had to do it on his own. Before he croaked, Kelvin told Desmond a certain 'him' would be coming to relieve him of his hatch duties, and would give him a password for proof (which Locke couldn't do).

Even though the Lostaways weren't his real relief, Desmond saw them as his chance to get away. He has spent all the time since we last saw him trying to hide from the Others and get off the island. He may have been captured by them, or may have just been in hiding all this time, but regardless- he finally made it on the sailboat, only to have it drift back to the island. Jack and Co. will now find Desmond unconscious on the boat at the beginning of tonight's episode.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it! They better get some serious answers from Desmond. Which means they better ask him all the right questions!

#335. Posted by: JoePike at May 24, 2006 9:27 AM

Why are some folks assuming that it was Walt responding to Michael's computer inquiries? We would have to be foolish enough to think that Walt had unsupervised access to a computer, which I find highly unlikely.
Joe Pike - I agree that Desmond (and the lostaways for that matter) "somehow got stuck on the island" but it certainly didn't happen by chance.
Another note - Locke gets up and walks away before the boat is seen. He is heading away from the losties camp, so where is he going? The Pearl hatch? If so, then Eko is the only other person who knows about that hatch. My point is...when are the losties going to start communicating (effectively) with each other. Why would Locke and Eko need to keep the Pearl to themselves? I know tonights episode will answer some major questions, but will I be left hanging only to ponder new questions all summer long?

#336. Posted by: maxlife at May 24, 2006 10:18 AM

I hope everyone gets the bigger boat comment that thinng has been making. For those who don't know what it is from it is the best line in the movei JAWS. It happens after Chief Brody, Matt Hooper and Quint go out hunting fo the shark. Brody sees the shark up close for the first time, is completely shocked and slowly backs into the main cabin where he sees Quint and says "We're gonna need a bigger boat."
It doesn't relate to lost in any way but its still a great line.

PS dirtbag you suck. mac you rock.

#337. Posted by: JAC at May 24, 2006 10:34 AM

JAC -- "We're gonna need a bigger boat" is, by far, the best quote in "Jaws." My second favorite is:

"Here's to swimmin' with bowlegged women!"

-- Mac

#338. Posted by: mac at May 24, 2006 10:55 AM

"We're gonna need a bigger boat."

Also from Clerks.

"Salsa shark!"

#339. Posted by: Lostie Red Shirt at May 24, 2006 11:55 AM

I wanted to point out that the "boat" Michael was referring to was not the sail boat we saw at the end of last week's episode. He was talking about the motor boat that was used to haul away his son at the end of season 1 (IMHO). Can't wait for the finale tonight and for Mac's recap!

#340. Posted by: tiny at May 24, 2006 1:00 PM

+++ semi spoiler alert ++++

the charachter who plays mikey was on a ny radio station this morning and said the following:

- he is not an other
- we find out how the plane is brought down, it was done by someone and not a mechanical failure
- even the actors do not know what happens in the last five mins (not filmed in hawaii)

Gonna be a good one.


#341. Posted by: lostatwork at May 24, 2006 1:10 PM

Right.....Thanks JAC. FYI. Humor is much more humorous when it does not have to be explained.

P.S. Charlie Salinger was a Character that Matthew Fox (Jack) played on the TV Show Party of Five. See, not as funny now.

#342. Posted by: Charlie Salinger at May 24, 2006 1:15 PM

Anybody else doing a 'Lost party' tonight? We are getting a group of about 10-12, with Chinese food, with the show on a big screen and surround stero. When was the last time a TV show got this kind of attention! :)

Can't wait to see some "answers". Mac, take your time on a 2-hour review, it's the last one we get for the summer!

#343. Posted by: The Duf at May 24, 2006 1:38 PM

If people watch American Idol tonight instead of LOST you would have to be nuts!!! Seacreast Out!!

#344. Posted by: SCREW AMERICAN IDOL at May 24, 2006 1:50 PM

The Duf -- You bring up an excellent point regarding the two-hour episode. There is a very good chance tomorrow's review will be late (I need to sleep, after all). I'll probably post a warning late tonight with an ETA on the review's posting time, but anyone expecting it before noon is fooling themselves ;)

-- Mac

#345. Posted by: mac at May 24, 2006 2:04 PM

i have a bigger problem tonight....the suns game is on! i'm watching lost, but i feel like a bad phoenician or however its spelled.

#346. Posted by: Laura at May 24, 2006 2:10 PM

Laura -- I feel your pain. This is one of those perfect TV storm nights for me. Consider the evidence:

* Lost 2-hour finale
* Idol 2-hour finale (GO TAYLOR!)
* Red Sox-Yankees

Obviously, "Lost" wins out in this situation, but any of these shows would be a highlight of my week -- and yet, they're all on at exactly the same time.

I need to go buy 2 more HD sets and 2 more TiVos ;)

#347. Posted by: mac at May 24, 2006 2:13 PM

Take your time Mac, I don't get any work done on Thursday afternoons cause I'm reading the review and keeping up with everyone's posts. I could just buckle down and do my job, but then I'd be left out of all the craziness!

Summer Wednesdays and Thursdays will be so sad. . .

#348. Posted by: Mary at May 24, 2006 2:15 PM

Mac, take your time with the two hour recap - it will be worth it. But, if you get 2 more HDs/TiVos...well, you definitely will need a bigger boat!

#349. Posted by: JT at May 24, 2006 3:12 PM

I'll need a bigger bank account, too.

Sidenote: I hereby offer for group consideration the following acronym:


Translation: "we're gonna need a bigger boat"

I anticpate using this whenever possible. I don't even care if it makes sense ;)

WGNBB, Namaste ...

#350. Posted by: mac at May 24, 2006 3:23 PM


can't wait for tonight's finale...unfortunately I work till 10 so have to wait till I get home and watch it...of course I am taping DVR doesn't arrive until friday and that only for the World Cup.

I just remembered something from a couple of episodes ago. remember just before jack and kate got caught in the net, kate asks jack why he asked her to go with him to ask for a trade for walt, he tells her that its coz the others don't want her or wrong was he huh! i can't wait to find out why the foursome are the CHOSEN ONES!

mac, we're gonna miss you this summer bro!


#351. Posted by: katePlusSun=Fun at May 24, 2006 4:29 PM

tapes are in the pearl, 8mm celluloid film in the swan....that means they kenw about the erratic magnetic fields, the blast doors? auto-defensive to hold the living quarters secure...wasn't the mosnter killed last season when they threw the dynamite down the chain hole? smoke monster appeared after the fuselage and bodies were burned...hmm...? The polar bears? brought by Dharma and studied to see how they act in an environment completely foreign to them, like desmond being put in a little quarantine hatch after being in a boat around the world. Others are a group of scientists, but keep up the facade of downtrodden campers so that the losties aren't drawn to them.

#352. Posted by: martin at May 24, 2006 4:42 PM

You mean there's no connection between LOST and JAWS? YUREKA! Thanks for the explanation, JAC...I think most people caught on to that....WGNBB!

Mac, Yanks vs. Sox? Come on, the Mets are playing Philly again tonight...but I can probalby catch up with it in the 16th after Lost is long over....the life of a Mets never ends!

#353. Posted by: Vikki at May 24, 2006 4:51 PM

michael lures the 4 away because precisely, jack, kate, sawyer and hurley are too much of a pain in the ass, so while the 5 losers are away from the beach, the rest will be slaughtered or taken by the others, or, jack is wanted because he's a doctor, sawyer because of who he killed in Aussyville, Kate because she's hot (saw lots of guys in others camp, not many women, who didn't look like dixy chics) and hurley because they want his money, or just want to see why he can't lose any weight.

#354. Posted by: martin at May 24, 2006 4:52 PM

Jac, before you crucify me, I meant to spell eureka wrong...

#355. Posted by: Vikki at May 24, 2006 4:52 PM



Rewind the tapes.

Mac, take your time tomorrow. You rock...we'll be patient.

I have a bad case of McPheever.


#356. Posted by: socompletelylost at May 24, 2006 5:01 PM

3.5 hrs to go and everyone can't wait!!
wish they would have a pier party tonight on the west side of manhattan with big screen tv's and plank to plank speakers like they used to do for FRIENDS back in the day. MAC, can you pull any strings?
i really hope Desmond sides with the goodguys. we need another alpha male on the island to fight over kate. have a great summer everyone, take up bowling or something to pass the time!

see you in the funny pages!

#357. Posted by: marls at May 24, 2006 5:32 PM

MARLS- Ever heard of the Frying Pan on the westside? 23rd St. I think they might be playing it.

Go Yanks!!!

#358. Posted by: YANKS at May 24, 2006 5:40 PM

By the way, not to nitpick, but the ACTUAL line from Jaws is...

"YOU'RE going to need a bigger boat."

I've seen Jaws about a zillion times.

#359. Posted by: Amanda at May 24, 2006 5:51 PM

The Duf

That sounds like a wicked awesome party! I would throw one 2 but i don't know alot of people that watch lost... :( espeasaly people that watch it like i watch it... i really respect the people, like the people on this web site, that do. that acutally care about wat happens and wut they think will happen...

you guys rock!

#360. Posted by: Chris at May 24, 2006 7:38 PM

Mac, I've already confessed that I have a crush on you but I now need to say that your Lost blog is like heroine. I am totally addicted!

Come Thursday morning, I anticipate your posting of the previous night's episode and when I click on the screen and see that it is there - I get so happy inside!!

In addition to this, the comments posted are so fun to read that I keep coming back for more and more and more!

I think I might need an intervention, or a bigger boat....

#361. Posted by: tiny at May 24, 2006 8:44 PM

Excellent recap! :)

#362. Posted by: I'mLOSTtoo at May 25, 2006 2:41 AM

Hey Amanda,
"smile you son of a..."

I have seen Jaws 2 zillion times.

...however maybe I am referring to all us losties

"we're gonna need a bigger boat"

#363. Posted by: thinng at May 25, 2006 2:43 AM

"the swan is a magnetic station....nuke powered, thats why the hot water for kates shower"

A couple questions about some of the hints in the show, hope it is ok to just butt in like this. About the shower, Kate said it smelled like sulpher. I was thinking natural springs. Any other ideas?

After the key was turned in the hatch, someone said the sky turned violet. Any ideas what it could or couldn't be?

I've heard every prop used in the show is a clue. Any ideas about the Dickens book?

Thanks in advance!

#364. Posted by: LOSTtoo at May 25, 2006 3:45 AM

Record company EMI sign a deal with the estate of crooner Dean Martin to use the singer's likeness...

#365. Posted by: Kadin Lowry at November 22, 2006 10:28 AM

Hello, i love! Let me in, please :)

#366. Posted by: Lusidvicel at December 18, 2006 10:26 AM


#367. Posted by: ma401zda at December 10, 2007 2:18 PM

2-22 - Three Minutes

A rescue mission
A trap, a plan, just these five
A funeral. Boat?

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