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Key Points from "Par Avion"
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Season 3, Episode 12 Episode Air Date: 03/14/07 |
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Let us pause for a moment to consider Claire's plight.
She crashes on a wacked-out island, pregnant, single and not entirely sure if she's a show regular or an occasional guest star. For weeks, she's forced to wear the same black maternity outfit and eat imaginary peanut butter with a C-list celebrity bassist. She's then abducted by a preternaturally strong "surgeon" who takes her to an underground medical lair and injects her still-developing child with a mysterious cocktail of shark oil, polar bear blood and an unidentified liquid from Ben's forehead. Ultimately, she pops out a son -- who by the grace of God isn't pre-tagged with a Dharma insignia -- but her elation is interrupted when a wild-eyed Frenchwoman kidnaps her baby for a poorly-conceived Other trade. And that's only the first season. Claire's problems become clear when they're compressed into a snarkily-written paragraph, but the massive gaps in Claire's "Lost" appearances make it hard to connect with her. Sure, she's pretty and nice and it's fun to hear her say "where's my baaaaaby" in her Australian accent, but when she sees less screen time than Dr. Artz and has fewer lines than Paulikki, it's virtually impossible to be an ardent Claire fan. If only there was a surprise familial connection between Claire and another castaway to ignite our imaginations and justify her existence on the island ... But we'll get to that in a minute. For the time being, it's time to recap. The primary storyline in this episode had the emotional resonance of a backstory. There were bits and pieces of interesting dialogue, and we did witness a few developments, but the episode's real action took place in the secondary plot (Key Point 3). With this in mind, I'm going to zip through Claire's material to get to the good stuff. So, here's what we learn in Claire's on-island story:
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Claire's backstory reveals one very big, very important thing. Ready? This is going to blow your mind.
Here goes: Claire used to be a black-haired goth chick who worked at a tattoo parlor. Amazing, right? A total brain bender. Beyond that, the backstory high points are just ho-hum. So here they are, presented in ho-hum bullet style:
So that's about it with the backstory. Of course, there's also that whole bit where we discover that Claire's father is alive and he's an American and he's actually Dr. Christian Shephard ... Jack's Dad ... holy homicidal smoke monster, Jack and Claire have the same dad!!!! Yes, it's true. Claire's backstory reveals that Jack and Claire share a parent. Dr. Daddy is the "anonymous benefactor" tending to Mum's hospital bills, and halfway through the episode he makes an appearance by Mum's bedside. Goth Claire demands to know who this fella is and Dr. Daddy puffs his chest and revels in the pleasure of instigating family drama on another continent. Claire is surprised and overwhelmed by the revelation that this pale guy with a a borderline mullet is her father. She was expecting someone ... taller. Shortly after Dr. Daddy reveals his paternity, he manages to coerce Claire into a conversation over coffee. At first Dr. Daddy seems compassionate (he claims to have visited Claire many times when she was little, but of course she doesn't remember). But soon, Dr. Daddy's pragmatic evil rears its ugly head. We've seen Dr. Daddy's sociopathic pragmatism in Jack's backstories: he gets off on telling his children to let things go and toss people off and avoid emotional investment at all costs. It did wonders for Jack, that's for sure. So Dr. Daddy tries to convince Claire that she should let her mother die. Claire is flabbergasted and offended. In no uncertain terms, she tells him to shove off with this intriguing bit of dialogue: "You might be my father, but I don't even know your name. I want it to stay that way." With that, Dr. Daddy leaves ... only to reappear sometime later during an Australian bender and in the company of a sneering former cop. But we already know how that plays out ... Let's take a moment to loop back to Claire's parting "I don't even know your name" line. Since Claire never learns Dr. Daddy's name, and since, presumably, Jack isn't carrying around snapshots of his father, I'm not sure how Jack and Claire will ever stumble upon their familial connection (unless there's a Shephard family album stored in Ben's attic). This opens the door to all sorts of near misses and, if the writers get desperate, a Luke-Leia moment. Ewww. Incidentally -- and tell me if I'm wrong on this -- I think Jack and Claire have shared exactly five minutes of screentime during the entire series. Besides the opening moments of the pilot episode when Dr. Jack tends to the then-preggers Claire, when have they been together? | |
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And now we come to the good stuff.
The Jack Rescue Operation picks up where it left off in "Enter 77." Locke, Kate, Sayid and Rousseau drag their new prisoner -- Mikhail Bakunin -- through the jungle en route to the Others' hidden lair. During the journey, Kate takes the opportunity to grill Bakunin for details about the Others (thank you, Kate). Her exchange with Bakunin reveals the following:
Unfortunately, the Bakunin revelations are interrupted by Rousseau's discovery of something very interesting It turns out that the electrical map Sayid discovered in the catacombs of the Flame station is quite useful. Much to Bakunin's chagrin, the map leads the group to a large open field that's protected by a massive "Jurassic Park" security system. Tall metal pylons are installed along the perimeter of the field. Each pylon has two metal domes affixed to opposite sides (the pylons look like really tall guys wearing massive headphones). Sayid tries to probe Bakunin for details about the security system, but Bakunin merely stretches an eyebrow and invites Sayid to step through the invisible security fence. Like everything on this island, Bakunin says, the fence doesn't work anymore. Locke -- who's been oddly quiet up to this point -- decides to take action. He grabs Bakunin by the scruff of the neck and shoves him through the pylons. Godspeed, Mikhail Bakunin. A loud, rumbling hum emanates from the pylons. Bakunin looks back at his captors. "Thank you," he says quietly. Foam bubbles pop and fizz at the sides of Bakunin's mouth. His skin turns red and he shakes violently. WAHWAHWAHWAHWAH ... the hum grows louder. Bakunin sizzles! Silence. Bakunin's dead body hits the ground. His face has the consistency of an overcooked meat patty. Sayid and Kate stare at Locke, but Locke shrugs off the incident. "My bad, yo." So, with their prisoner fried and a sonic death fence standing in their way, the Jack Rescue Operation decides to regroup. Kate stares at the pylons and determines that the sonic death fence, is, in fact a fence. And that means they can get over it. All they need is a tree and an axe ... and the axe just happens to be in Locke's backpack. Sayid picks up Locke's pack and Locke immediately scampers in to try and divert his attention. But it's too late. Opening the pack, Sayid sees a brick of C4 explosive. Well, well, well ... The explosive is from the now-destroyed Flame station, and its presence in Locke's backpack is particularly interesting because -- earlier in this episode -- Locke used ignorance to defend his seemingly inadvertent destruction of the Flame. "If I had known it was rigged with explosives, maybe I would have been more cautious," Locke told Sayid. But the Backpack Revelation suggests otherwise. Locke did know about the explosives and he still initiated the Flame's failsafe. Sayid narrows his eyes. Locke's motivation is suddenly called into question: is he trying to rescue Jack, or is he up to something else? Alas, we'll have to wait until next week's Locke-centric episode to find out. As it stands, the Rescue Group still needs to get over the sonic death fence. So, Team Jack cuts down a tree and leans it against one of the pylons. With squirrel-like athleticism, Kate shimmies up the tree and carefully maneuvers herself over the pylon without incident. Locke, Sayid and Rousseau follow. And that brings us to the Big Moment. Using the map, the Rescue Group pushes through thick brush and, in the closing moments of the episode, they reach their destination. Peering out from behind bushes and trees, the group sees the manicured lawns and tidy sidewalks of Dharma World (or Other Land or Hostileville -- we really need a name for this place). It's the same "neighborhood" we saw at the beginning of "A Tale of Two Cities." Looking around, the group sees Izod-attired Others walking and talking and barbecuing. Suddenly, Kate's eyes snap forward. There's Jack! And he's running full-tilt toward the bushes! But this is where things get weird. Jack is in a dead sprint, but it's clear he doesn't see his castaway friends. As he runs, he peeks over his shoulder and extends his hands like a ... wide receiver? Out of nowhere, a football -- A FOOTBALL -- arcs over Jack's head and lands in his palms. Jack cradles the ball and turns to throw it back to ... TOM! Jack is playing long-toss with TOM!? THUNK. Kate's jaw hits the ground. And that's when it ends!
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As usual, I'll close with a few questions and observations:
That's all I've got! Be sure to drop by our "Lost" Forum for stimulating conversation and conjecture. |
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Next Episode:
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"The Man from Tallahassee" -- Locke receives an enticing offer and Kate's rescue plan takes an unexpected turn. Airs Wednesday, Mar. 21, 2007 at 10 p.m. on ABC. |
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Review by Mac Slocum. All photos and episode descriptions © ABC Inc. |
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Posted by Mac on March 15, 2007 11:34 AM | Email This
GRAA, Mac.
So, Claire and Jack are brother and sister - Darth Shepard strikes again. We know it, but they don't. Like a Hitchcockian McGuffin. At least Jack still has both of his hands…which he used to good effect playing football with Tom. Was it just me or was Tom admiring Jack's physique just a little too much?
It seemed like we got introduced to a whole new John Locke this week. First he shoves Patchy into the fence, then we find out not only did he lie about not knowing about the C-4 (my opinion he definitely blew up the Flame hatch on purpose…he is going to do whatever it takes to stay on this island) but that he had even stashed some in his bag. It seemed to me that Locke shoved Patchy into the fence to prevent Patchy's telling Kate and Sayid that he'd been paralyzed and maybe even some Other quality intel about the list and the great man (who I assume is Jacob/Alvar Hanso).
I liked how Claire echoed the viewers frustration when she told Sun she was going to get some answers (from Des). And would they really stop at putting a note on just one bird? Wouldn't it increase their chances of getting rescued if they put notes on as many birds as they could catch?
→ 2. Posted by: ransomjackson at March 15, 2007 11:46 AMDr. Daddy's coffin was found empty by Jack early in season 1, if I recall. So it's possible that when the body turns up, both Jack and Claire will identify it and learn of their true relationship. I doubt they'll do the Luke/Leila thing though.
→ 3. Posted by: jessica at March 15, 2007 11:56 AMI'm pretty sure that Patchy was about to say that the John Locke he "knew" was paralyzed, right before he is cut off. I think he got the first two syllables out.
→ 4. Posted by: IBelieve at March 15, 2007 12:02 PMNot one of the better episodes, alas. I'm wondering if the introduction of (and prompt adeiu to) a Russian character and the prominent featuring of an Ayn Rand novel are a message. Could Rand's "superman" theme/obsession be a clue to the "magnificent man" Bakunin mentions and to the Others' gathering of people they consider worthy of "the list"?
Or did Sawyer just burn through all the worthwhile books?
→ 5. Posted by: korper at March 15, 2007 12:06 PMGreat review Mac, I am still laughing. The people at work are wondering what the hell is wrong with me. Well done!
→ 6. Posted by: John at March 15, 2007 12:14 PMGreat review, as always. Good questions, too. I wondered the same thing about the note on the bird's leg. And how did Clair manage to write an entire book on what looked like a 3"x3" scrap of paper? ha ha ha
Another question:
If the "incident" with the hatch knocked out their communication systems and sonar homing beacon for a submarine, why didn't it knock out the electricity supply as well? Computers, sonic fences, etc. all still seem to function just fine. Why?
Locke became a very interesting character last night. Why would he blow up the Flame? Why would he shove Bakunin into the fence (good call, ransomjackson, on Locke wanting to prevent Bakunin from spilling the beans about Locke having been paralyzed.)?
How fortunate for Dr. Shepard that Claire's Mom was taken to the hospital where his "good friend" happened to work? And that was one hell of a fast trans-pacific flight.
→ 7. Posted by: Amanda S. at March 15, 2007 12:14 PMPleasantville the name of the compound should be Pleasantville.
→ 8. Posted by: Dana Gabriel at March 15, 2007 12:16 PMLove reading your recaps Mac! A note on Mikail before he gargled with Alka-Seltzer. He was mentioning the complete names of his captors when he mentioned the list. He claims he must have been mistaken about Locke because the Locke he knew of was para...then he got cut off. Could there actually be something the Dharma people/Others are NOT aware of??!! I found that to be quite intriguing. Also, do you think there may be some cloning going on on the island? That may explain some of the weird behavior of the island residents and why they don't communicate well with each other. I don't know. Pardon my caffeine-induced musings!!
→ 9. Posted by: TammyD at March 15, 2007 12:17 PMGRAA, mac.
The two main points I took from this epi.
1) Claire now knows about Desmondo's ability to tell when Charlie is about to die.
B) Locke certainly knew about the C-4 and lied about it earlier. That is really inportant information.
sub-point that Claire and Jack are brother and sister has been theorized for quite a while, and was pretty much a yawner to me. It is nice to know though. I s Mum still alive, or did she die before the flight? Claire looked about 7 months along (according to my wife) so the flight was 3-4 weeks off.
Oh, Jack playing catch with Tom did completely blow me away. I was not expecting jack to have joined Losteria Lane.
Peace out.
Losteria Lane! hahahhhaha!
→ 11. Posted by: katie at March 15, 2007 12:24 PMAs always great recap.
Seems like some one dies every week.
How many episodes have there been when no one dies? I recall one but I don't remember which one it was. This season I think.
@mac
>Speaking of the sonic death fence ... again, I ask, how is it that Rousseau hasn't stumbled upon this thing? ... Did Rousseau stick to the coastline for 16 years? I just don't buy it.
But Rousseau herself says she's survived by *avoiding* contact, so it seems plausable to me.
Did anyone notice that their "fence avoidance system" was a one way trip? They had to drop from the felled tree. Absent some really impressive gymnastics, they've got no way out again.
So, after presumably having rescued Jack, they plan to stop, fell a tree on the inside, and reconstruct another bridge - while being chased by hostile others?
Or do they plan to disable the fence system while in there?
Did Rousseau go inside the fence with them? I don't recall seeing her in the final scenes.
I had the same thoughts as your analysis of MB's remarks on the Losties list-unsuitableness. At first he seemed to be ascribing a characteristic to each, then it became less clear. I thought he might have been about to tell Locke that he was *almost* good enough to be on the list.
And remember Henry/Ben told Locke while in captivity that he was coming for Locke.
The growing mytery now is: What do the Others conceive as their mission, so important that they are willing to sacrifice their own lives just to avoid the least jeopardy to their security?
Mrs Klugh orders Mikhail to kill her and himself just to avoid falling into the Losties' hands.
Mikhail thanks Locke for killing him by pushing him into the fence.
And don't forget they are quite willing to commit kidnapping and murder to further their goals, whatever they are. What cause is generating such fanatic devotion?
→ 13. Posted by: Cecil Rose at March 15, 2007 12:28 PMrandsomjackson,
I have to agree with you about Locke. Especially after seeing the clips for next weeks show. According to
Bakunin, aka overcooked meat patty, the sub is what gets them to/from the island. Although few will agree, I have to think that Jack & Claire's dad is still kickin'. He's out there...
It was an average episode. Next week looks really good. I'm kinda pumped for the Paulo/Nikki episode as well.
Mac, great job on the "some of us have developed severe intestinal reactions to tropical fruit (Paulo)" line. I'm in a quiet room full of students and they all whipped around and looked at me when I laughed at that.
On the others and their "cause".
Remember that Dharma/Hanso was revealed in the Lost Experience to be fanatic and ruthless in their quest to "save the world". To the extent of murdering African villagers to learn more about one term of the Valenzetti equation. They justified this in terms of "the greater good" of saving mankind.
So we already know that Dharma/Hanso's sense of mission can lead them to despicable acts. This can be an argument that the Others ARE Dharma/Hanso.
Or, conversely, perhaps they are a group fanatically dedicated to *stopping* Dharma/Hanso. If so, they are equally willing to employ immoral means to what they see as a justifying end. This would mesh with the hints of a war between Dharma and the hostiles. Perhaps the reason for their hostility to Dharma is that Dharma was using them, the hostiles, as experimental subjects, just like those African natives.
→ 15. Posted by: Cecil Rose at March 15, 2007 12:42 PMGreat recap/great ep. If the plotholes are becoming big enough to drive a truck through, I mind a lot less, if there is actually a feeling that the plot is going somewhere.
OTOH, some plot holes are narrowing. I guess if Locke is a premeditated arsonist and murderer, all of that black/white imagery associated with him actually takes on real meaning. Put yourself in his shoes (the one's with perfect treads). It's no small thing to recover from paralysis. When it comes to protecting personal secrets, his is, by far, the most powerful character motivation.
Gotta agree with Mac that the sonic fence concept doesn't bear to much close scrutiny as a plot mechanism. Just gotta suspend disbelief and flow with that one to get by it.
The Sayid/Locke dynamic last night was outstanding. Their antagonism and tension was very real, arising from character and circumstance. The actors continue to impress.
→ 16. Posted by: Deep Cover at March 15, 2007 12:47 PMThese people should be careful what they wish for... Claire wished her mother would die, and Voila! Good as dead. Juliet wished her ex would be hit by a bus and Voila! Dead. So, are they "making" these things happen, or are they simply "remembering" deja-vu style a previous loop and are freaked when it actually happens? (Desmond, Walt and Locke all have little pre-cog things about them as well, some subtle and some not so subtle.)
→ 17. Posted by: ab at March 15, 2007 12:48 PMGreat Recap Mac, you rock.
Couple of things: did the 7-7 entry on the computer really blow it up or did Locke? Now that we know he LIES about the C-4, perhaps he triggered the explosion rather than it being some computer-dharma-failsafe.
Also, did anyone notice Claire using a piercing gun to pierce someones ears? She doesn't make a very convincing goth OR piercer......;)
Was Lindsey (Clarie Aunt) the same actress who was in the episode were Jack's dad is at a house late a night beating on the door. I lent out season 2 and can not check with out. They are both blondes.
Still wanting to see Benard and Rose. Did they stay at the beach building more SOS's?
→ 19. Posted by: michael at March 15, 2007 12:52 PMGreat review as usual mac.
This may have been pointed out already, but don't the most recent Hurley and Claire backstories have in common the "father issues" previously established for many of the other lostaways? I agree with the post that Locke forced Mikhail into the fence to prevent him from revealing anything about him. Also thought Locke could have explained what he did to Mikhail by saying he was testing whether the fence worked.
→ 20. Posted by: ct at March 15, 2007 12:52 PMre: I was not expecting jack to have joined Losteria Lane
→ Posted by: onelostdude at March 15, 2007 12:19 PM
I love that name..."Losteria Lane"...good call.
Thanks for the great review Mac
→ 21. Posted by: lostme at March 15, 2007 12:56 PM1: Why not just call it "The Barracks"? That's the only official name we have for "Otherville" thus far.
2: It was stated by Hurley some time ago that the nobody lives in the caves anymore.
→ 22. Posted by: master of kaioken at March 15, 2007 12:58 PMWe've seen in the past that Ben's group knew things about the crash survivors and now we see that Patchy did too. I guess it's safe to now assume that Patchy was in the loop with Ben's clan and that's how he knew everyone's last names?
It was a shame to see Patchy die...I loved the character and the acting was top notch.
Am I the only one getting sick of waiting for Charlie to die? Hopefully they'll close that storyline one way or another soon. I find myself just watching him not paying attention because I'm wondering when it's going to happen.
→ 23. Posted by: petew at March 15, 2007 12:59 PM"the map leads the group to a large open field that's protected by a massive "Jurassic Park" security system."
Okay I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. I was half-expecting for Mikhail to morph into a monster or something when he started foaming at the mouth, but that notion was quickly dismissed when blood started pouring out of his ears. Didn't quite see that one coming.
@mac I'm pretty sure Mikhail was directing the comments at individuals, but my take was a little different than yours...Flawed=Kate, Angry=Locke, Weak=Rosseau, & Frightened=Sayid, but I'm probably wrong. I also agree that something is up with Rosseau. How could she not have seen all this stuff. She's been there for 16 years!
Something is definitely up with Locke...I found my self not trusting him last night, and I have never had that reaction to him in all my days of viewing Lost. I guess this will be revealed next week, but it's almost as though he knows exactly what is going on and exactly what he wants to destroy/blow up in order to keep himself right where he is: on Lost Island. Perhaps he has known all along...
→ 25. Posted by: Vikki at March 15, 2007 1:01 PMGreat report as usual, and regardless of anyone's opinion of the episode as a whole, the last few seconds were worth every goth-flashback moment.
No mention of the streamside exchange between Kate and Rousseau:
#1 the resemblance between the two was very obvious in this scene
#2 Rousseau claimed she had no questions about her daughter. Strange considering she was willing to kidnap Claire's baby to offer in exchange for her daughter.
(I tend to agree with a point made elsewhere that Rousseau's inconsistent behavior is either bad writing or she's hiding something. Having read enough interviews by JJ Abrams et. al. -- I think Rousseau's hiding something -- the writers haven't erred that badly)
I also thought a sonic fence would be littered with carcasses - but also think they'd probably clean up periodically to keep any trespassers guessing. It also must be an extremely accurate beam to fry Patchy, but seemingly have no adverse or uncomfortable affects to the expedition party standing so close by. Also thought it was strange that Kate could get so close to the body without harm to herself (since Patchy pretty much dropped dead in the spot where he was fried).
Would like to confirm if football-Jack had a tattoo on his forearm that we have not seen in other episodes? Also, we've mostly (always?) seen Jack on the island in sleeveless shirts, but not this time - this wasn't just Jack feeling civilized in Pleasantville -- methinks they were hiding something from us
I love this page! Thanks for all your details it's great. Stupid question but do you have any stroke with ABC on getting Lost back on at 9pm? Because this sucks. Theres nothing on before Lost I want to see. I hate how they have taken advantage of us Lost fans.
Thank you!
At least with C4 I won't have to worry about PiecesofLocke ever showing up!
The obvious solution to Jack and Claire finding out about Daddy Dearest is for them to stumble upon the body together and simultaneously say, "That's my dad!" Then look at each other, then back at the body, then at each other, etc.
Mikhail seemed to be about to say that the John Locke he 'knew' was a para...
(paraplegic). He also knew their full names so he knew at least enough to have an idea of who they are.
Looking at the Rousseau pic above I though it was Michael J. Fox in a wig!
I think Locke assumed that 77 wouldn't work either so he explored a little, found the C4 and took some then put 2 and 2 together. Maybe he found/took something else that made him want to blow up the Flame. Also I think since Locke was on the kill Mikhail train, he used him as a guinea pig for the fence.
Other boards have named the barracks "Otherville".
I believe Charlie was holding a twisty-tie right before they attached the note to the bird. That should have given the note at least the chance to not fall off.
As for the Great Man/Jacob, what kind of cult of personality does this guy have that Ben, Mikhail and others (and Others) all talk about him as if he is the Reincarnaction? I've never met anybody in real life who I thought,"Wow, this guy can change the world." And why is it hidden from the world if it is such a great idea. That's how nutjobs get people to follow them.
How big is this island? They talk about going miles and miles. Wouldn't some outsider ever notice a huge island even in the middle of the Pacific?
@ransomjackson: Maybe Tom didn't like Kate's type because she wasn't on the list. Besides he needed a new receiver
since they killed Pickett.
@TammyD: Cloning doesn't happen overnight. I don't believe anyone is a clone. I think the island is just as dysfunctional as any other place with different people in it.
→ 28. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 15, 2007 1:16 PMAt least with C4 I won't have to worry about PiecesofLocke ever showing up!
The obvious solution to Jack and Claire finding out about Daddy Dearest is for them to stumble upon the body together and simultaneously say, "That's my dad!" Then look at each other, then back at the body, then at each other, etc.
Mikhail seemed to be about to say that the John Locke he 'knew' was a para...
(paraplegic). He also knew their full names so he knew at least enough to have an idea of who they are.
Looking at the Rousseau pic above I though it was Michael J. Fox in a wig!
I think Locke assumed that 77 wouldn't work either so he explored a little, found the C4 and took some then put 2 and 2 together. Maybe he found/took something else that made him want to blow up the Flame. Also I think since Locke was on the kill Mikhail train, he used him as a guinea pig for the fence.
Other boards have named the barracks "Otherville".
I believe Charlie was holding a twisty-tie right before they attached the note to the bird. That should have given the note at least the chance to not fall off.
As for the Great Man/Jacob, what kind of cult of personality does this guy have that Ben, Mikhail and others (and Others) all talk about him as if he is the Reincarnaction? I've never met anybody in real life who I thought,"Wow, this guy can change the world." And why is it hidden from the world if it is such a great idea. That's how nutjobs get people to follow them.
How big is this island? They talk about going miles and miles. Wouldn't some outsider ever notice a huge island even in the middle of the Pacific?
@ransomjackson: Maybe Tom didn't like Kate's type because she wasn't on the list. Besides he needed a new receiver
since they killed Pickett.
@TammyD: Cloning doesn't happen overnight. I don't believe anyone is a clone. I think the island is just as dysfunctional as any other place with different people in it.
→ 29. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 15, 2007 1:17 PMSorry about the double post :(
→ 30. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 15, 2007 1:18 PMGreat Recap Mac,
I swear, I look forward to your recaps each week as much as I do to the new episodes.
I remember the exchange between Mikhail and the losties where he tells them why they're not on the list. After his little "flawed" speech, Sayid said to Mikhail that he speaks as if he know them, but that he doesn't know anything about them. At this point Mikhail puts on his best evil Wishmaster grin and says, "You are right Sayid Jarra, how could I know any of you, or you Kate Austin, or even you John Locke. I do have a fading memory of a John Locke, but it couldn't possibly be you because that John was pa. . . ." that's when Rousseau called their attention to the pylons. Mikhail didn't even bother to turn around when she called, he just kept staring at Locke with that evil grin. He almost announced John's secret paralysis recovery to everyone. If everyone remembers there is only one other person inthe entire losties camp that knows about John, that would be Rose.
Anyway, I loved that part of the scene, it showed the losties that the Others' resources stretch pretty far.
Great job Mac.
→ 31. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 1:19 PMI don't understand why Locke would kill patchy just to not reveal he was paralyzed. We all know that Walk and Rose both knew. He told Walt and Rose saw him at the airport so why would he care if they all knew? I know Walt is gone but Rose is still on the island..I think right? I know we have not seen her or Bernard in a long time but they are still there, so why would this paralyzed thing be such a big secret for Locke?
One final comment....the ending was so kick ass..here we see Jack looking like he's trying to bust free and then cathes the football!! HA HA that was so classic, I loved it. And it's so nice to see him actauly having a nice time and not being such a puss ass!!
→ 32. Posted by: heyya at March 15, 2007 1:20 PMGreat review as always, Mac!
Two things. First, Locke totally murdered eye-patch guy because the dude knew he was crippled. Bakunin was about the spill the beans about Locke's legs before Rousseau interrupted.
And second, when will the Dingo eat Claire's baby?
→ 33. Posted by: Rob at March 15, 2007 1:20 PMI believe when we last saw Locke's dad he was about to receive his new kidney. His last words to Locke were (and I'm paraphrasing) "See you in the next life". I'm thinking he's going to turn up on that island in some capacity, just as Desmond did. Perhaps he's "Mr. Big". Any thoughts?
→ 34. Posted by: bst at March 15, 2007 1:21 PMA few thoughts I haven't seen yet ......
(1) I am thinking the reason the fence did not have a slew of dead animals is that it emanates a 'tone' that animals can hear, but not people. Kinda like the dog whistle concept.
(2) The blowing up of the flame did not disrupt the other island power sources because it was only a communication station .... not a power station.
(3) The map they looked at to see if the 'tall guys with headphones' completely encircled Hooterville showed subterranean passages (at 20ft below ground level) going under the perimeter, according to screen shots at this url (http://lost.cubit.net/viewEgg.php?id=239)
→ 35. Posted by: Saminator at March 15, 2007 1:22 PMIf I remember correctly, in one of the past episodes Locke talked about how to delay an explosion. If so, he definitely could have intentionally blown up The Flame station. We already know that he knew about the C4 and didn't look all that surprised when the thing exploded.
But what are his plans for the C4? I'm guessing he's going after Ben for some answers.
→ 36. Posted by: copwife at March 15, 2007 1:23 PMSomething that crossed my mind...when Patchy was about to announce that he remembered Locke's paralysis, it almost seemed to me that Rousseau interrupted him on purpose so he wouldn't finish.
I found it odd that she stopped him like that and wonder if it wasn't because of what she saw, but because of what she didn't want him to say.
Anyone else get that vibe?
→ 37. Posted by: petew at March 15, 2007 1:23 PMgreat as always MAC!
Hmmm, I think this episode may deserve a re watch as there are many LITTLE things that frittered on our screens. Chief among these is good old Locke. Mikhail's dismissal of his captors being not on the list and then making the assertion that Locke is different is very interesting for a few reasons:
1) When Mikhail is pushed into the perimeter, I think his 'Thank You' is maybe two-fold, the first being a thank you for ridding me the misery of living on this island and doing things and being bored, etc.
Second, I think he may have said Thank You in reference to Locke and his possible future connection to the Others. Maybe the thank you was like "thanks for coming among us and taking us in a new direction"
GASP--yes, I think someway, somehow, Locke is gonna have an important part to play with the Others after he gets over his anger issues and goes all Obi-Locke for good.
2) On a different note, I think the writers have deftly setup an interesting Desmond Charlie conflict. Brother Desmond has saved Charlie many times but it can't go on forever. If Desmond goes away, Charlie is screwed. This could set up a LOT of tension.
3) I still think Daddy Shepard is alive and well, just not sure where he is at the moment. His actual dead body has never been shown, so..........
that's it for now
""""Something that crossed my mind...when Patchy was about to announce that he remembered Locke's paralysis, it almost seemed to me that Rousseau interrupted him on purpose so he wouldn't finish.
I found it odd that she stopped him like that and wonder if it wasn't because of what she saw, but because of what she didn't want him to say.
Anyone else get that vibe?""""
I got that vibe as well..there is something not right with Roussou..don't know what but there is something she is hiding.
I still don't get why Locke cares if they all know he was paralyzed..stranger things have happened on the island I don't think they would even care
Thanks, Mac. Awesome, as always. Here are the things on my mind:
(1) Rousseau -- There is NO way that all of this terrain and Otherville bergs (the blown up flame station, Lsotie Lane) are new to Rousseau. She's been living off the land for 16 years and we are supposed to believe that not ONCE has she come across either of these two locales? No. I don't believe it. Either it is a massive character flaw/story inconsistency or (hopefully) something that will be explained in the future.
(2) Daddy Issues -- I still think that is a common thread among the castaways. Think about it. Locke, Jack, Claire, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Walt,(to an extent). Too many to be simply coincidental.
(3) The list. Ok this list business is confusing me. Supposedly, jack, Kate, Sawyer and Hurley were on the list which is why Michael was asked to go back to camp and bring this group to the Others. But, Ana Lucia discovered a lsit on one of the Others that she killed and said that the names of the tailies were on it, particularly the kids' names that were missing. I am pretty sure that I remember that AL said her own name was NOT on the list. I think this was confirmed in her conversation with Goodwin before she killed him.
So....are Kate and Sawyer really on the lsit? Were they and then got dropped from the list after being observed for a time period? After tests were run on them? We were led to believe that Hurley was only on Michael's list b/c they needed someone to go back to camp to deliver the "stay away" message. If anyone else has thoguhts on this, please share. I'm still hung up on the Daddy Issues thing.
(3) Locke. Is it possible that when he entered 7-7 on the computer that he didn't know the result would be an explosion of the hut? Maybe he snagged the explosive (an extra) from the room with the computer and didn't know the entire house was wired. I don't recall him being down in the basement at all. was he? Maybe he truly took the C4 for future use/protection, entered 77 on the screen out of curiosity (he had already responded to all the other prompts) and did it without knowing the reuslt would be an explosion. Just a thought.
Anyone have any predictions about what caused Lock's paralysis?
All for now. Off to a meeting!
→ 40. Posted by: GatorGal at March 15, 2007 1:28 PM3) I still think Daddy Shepard is alive and well, just not sure where he is at the moment. His actual dead body has never been shown, so..........
that's it for now
→ Posted by: JP at March 15, 2007 01:25 PM
They showed Jack identifying his dad's body in the first season.
→ 41. Posted by: Josh at March 15, 2007 1:28 PMThis list thing is driving me nuts! Has Jack assimilated into Losteria Lane, or is he playing them? And if they have embraced him and allowed him "in" because he was on the list, does this mean he is flawless? I think that idea would be up for debate...
Do we have any conclusive evidence of who exactly IS on this list, or have we only ever been told who is NOT on the list? I seemed to remember hearing about who is not over and over and over...
→ 42. Posted by: Vikki at March 15, 2007 1:29 PMMaybe I am missing something here, but why is it such a big deal that Locke was paralyzed? Was he paralyzed when he got on the plane and then not paralyzed after the crash?
In the episode where Locke goes into the sweat lodge and has visions, isn't he being pushed through the airport in a wheelchair?
→ 43. Posted by: FirstTimeLongTime at March 15, 2007 1:32 PMCopwife,
"But what are his plans for the C4?"
Did you see the promos for next weeks show? If you taped the show, watch the promo right after it says "Bad Robot!"
Next weeks promos gave me chills!!!!
→ 44. Posted by: MrEko237 at March 15, 2007 1:33 PMGreat recap... LOL at the "Losteria Lane" post...I think that's a keeper.
→ 45. Posted by: rentagoodbook at March 15, 2007 1:33 PM""""Anyone have any predictions about what caused Lock's paralysis?""""
I think it has something to do with his dad..not sure what but I don't think it was a simple accident..if it was a car accident or something like that then I think he was tailing his dad and got hit??
→ 46. Posted by: heyya at March 15, 2007 1:34 PMJack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley were on the list given to Michael. Hurley was just for relaying the message. Jack was on the list to remove Ben's tumor. One of the Others mentioned that Jack was not on Jacob's list. This leaves Kate and Sawyer as the only tow on Michael's list that are on Jacob's master list.
The list AL found off the dead Other probably only contained the Tailies names that Goodwin was able to provide.
→ 47. Posted by: Josh at March 15, 2007 1:34 PMThere's definitely something off about Danielle. I didn't see her with Kate, Sayid and Locke when they discovered Jack playing football--did she crawl over the tree or stay on the other side? Seems strange that she would stay behind if she came along to find her daughter.
I think Danielle was an Other, but that something happened and she was cast away from their society and banished to another part of the island. She's been there too long to never have stumbled upon the Flame or the pylons before. Maybe we will soon see that she is branded like Juliet?
→ 48. Posted by: copwife at March 15, 2007 1:35 PMI don't know if it has been asked yet or not, but who mows around the sonic death fence?
→ 49. Posted by: Batteries Included at March 15, 2007 1:41 PMRousseau say, in this episode, "Imagine it is 60 years from now...etc" 60 years! How old is she really? Do you age slowly on the island? Is she 80, 90 or more?
I noticed Sun seemed to completely drop her accent again in this episode. Is there some reason for this? It bugs me.
→ 50. Posted by: Afleetingmemory at March 15, 2007 1:47 PMThank you Mac!
- The list thing ... Yes, Kate and Sawyer were on the list at the end of season 2. When they were on Alcatraz, they had their blood drawn. Then, during this episode, Mikhail talks about them *not* being on the list. Could the blood tests the Others are doing have something to do with the lists?
- Locke .... sneaky. Something's going on. It is a relief, too, because everybody was talking about how DUMB he was last week. Now we know that there's something else going on.
- Jack's Dad ... For a while, I too thought he was alive because of that empty coffin episode. But, I agree -- they showed Jack identifying the body of his dead father earlier. So I think he's dead.
- Rousseau ... I agree. Sneaky, sneaky. Something is not right.
- I hope Bernard and Rose show up soon, even just a cameo. Not seeing them is kinda killing the continuity of the show for me. Plus, there was that theory about the Hatch/Magnetic Thing having healing powers. So now that it's been blown, is that why Henry's tumor came back? What about Rose's cancer?
- Call me crazy, but I'm sensing that the show is channeling THE WIZARD OF OZ. Why did I get a weird sense of deja vu during the Mikhail scene? I saw Kate, Sayid, and Locke as the Tin Woodsman, Lion, and Scarecrow, on their way to Oz to see the Wizard, a "magnificent" man.
- Am I double-crazy? Locke = Jacob ??
Oy, this show is great!
→ 51. Posted by: Matt at March 15, 2007 1:48 PM@ copwife,
I was also thinking Danielle was cast out of the group or branded. Or perhaps she was given a death sentence and escaped. She would try and avoid the others to save her meaningless dirty/grimey existance.
→ 52. Posted by: John at March 15, 2007 1:48 PMAnyone have any theories about what's going on with Jack? Brainwashed? Drugged? Or just making the best of his current situation?
I think he's making the best of his current situation, since he did make a sort of deal with Ben to get off the island. I don't think nearly enough time has passed for brainwashing to work, and I think he seemed too physically and mentally fit to be drugged.
→ 53. Posted by: copwife at March 15, 2007 1:48 PMI've just got to say that I am lovin' this show. Even the answers that are simple (or seem to simple to be the whole explanation) are enough to keep me wanting more. Then there are those simple answers that are enough to satisfy me.
I was also wondering how, or rather if, Jack and Claire will ever discover their paternal connection. The how is not the big mystery for me, but rather how it will cause them to react, what impact will it have on the characters dynamic. What will it mean in the larger scheme of things.
I think they'll find out from the Others. There will be some kind of confrontation and they'll mention it in passing to Jack, who will refuse to believe it, until he remembers exactly what kind of person Christian Shephard was and then he'll sulkingly accept the news.
→ 54. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 1:55 PMI saw Danielle in one the shots while they were scouting Camp Pinewood. I think Jack is playing along until he and Juliet can escape and work on producing a Doogie Howser. Wow, Claire's lost the baby weight I guess...no lady lumps whatsoever. Obviously Dharma formula is much better than teet milk...is she ever with the kid? Passing him off to Uncle Gin every few hours ain't gonna win her MOTY.
→ 55. Posted by: diggler at March 15, 2007 1:56 PMLocke knows EXACTLY what he's doing, because this is his second time on the island. Unlike Desmond, he's keeping his "premonitions" to himself and is systematically altering the outcome of things he knows he can change, such as his paralysis. He is blowing up hatches, taking C4, etc. to help him get to whatever his final destination is. He KNEW Patchy would die when he pushed him into that sonic fence. Now...what is his final plan? His cockiness of late makes me think (again) that he has his plan all laid out in his mind.
→ 56. Posted by: Toe at March 15, 2007 1:58 PMIMHO Jack is just making the best of a bad situation. He probably saw the security perimeter when he was brought to Losteria Lane (luv the name) and he was most likely warned about what it would do to him if he tried to cross it. Having all that info he's decided that he has no choice but to hope that Ben lives up to his end of the bargain and releases him after he's recovered. It's not that far of a stretch, after all, Jack saw Ben release Michael and Walt after the deal Michael made with the Others was completed. He might honestly beleive that Ben will do the same at the end of their deal.
→ 57. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 2:01 PMIn regard to the "list," I think there are 2 lists that are getting confused with each other. The first list was found on a dead Other by Ana Lucia. Eko killed 2 others when they were trying to kidnap more people. Ana Lucia found a list with names on it, and it didn't include her own name (confirmed by Goodwin). And when Ben sends Ethan and Goodwin into the jungle to look for survivors of the plane crash, he tells them to "blend in," and to bring him "names."
The second list we're all thinking of is the "Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Jack" list that Mrs. Klugh gives to Michael. She tells him to bring those 4 people back to the Others camp. Hurley was chosen to be the messenger. The real purpose of the kidnappings was to get Jack to do surgery on Ben. They took Kate and Sawyer with Jack because they needed a way to convince Jack to do the surgery. They did that by making Kate think they would kill Sawyer. They sent Kate in to plead with Jack to do the surgery. It's a classic technique used in situations where you want to get someone to do something. You find what will motivate them, and in this case, Jack's motivation was to make Kate happy. And Kate's motivation was to save Sawyer. Bada bing, bada boom.
So, the list that Bakunin was referring to last night, I think, was the original list that Ethan and Goodwin compiled.
Sorry for the long ass post. I couldn't be more succinct than that.
→ 58. Posted by: Amanda S. at March 15, 2007 2:05 PMSorry in advance for the long post.
Another goofy-ass theory from the cheap seats…meeting a new John Locke last night brought this to mind.
Somehow Locke was replaced with a doppelganger on the beach. That could explain how he is now able to walk (new body) but retains all of his memories and possibly any new implanted memories or ulterior motivations (like blowing up hatches and killing Russians). Also, when Locke looked Smoky (who I still believe to be telekinetically-controlled black sand) in the eye (like when the alien looked at Sigourney in Alien 3), Smoky recognized the New Locke as one of their own and therefore did not kill him. The memories of the original people could have been transplanted into cloned bodies. This could very well apply to Rose as well, though we may never know because she seems to have disappeared.
If these Others are some sort of clones, they arguably could be unable to reproduce (like mules, or the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park) and would therefore require an influx of chuildren to propagate the species, and might require a very controlled environment in which to live and be studied for suitability. Some key individuals (e.g., Ben) would be left in tact to run the operation and ensure its success, but some (Juliet, Ethan) would have to be shipped in to assist and document shortcomings so the species can be improved before being loosed on an unsuspecting world. One could argue that such a civilization would be idyllic, sort of a Stepford Wives meets The Island of Dr. Moreau, and just might be worth killing and dying for.
Ayn Rand's Superman, the book Evil Twin, Good Ones vs. Bad Ones...there've been several other hints that could be said to fit.
Will the real John Locke please sit down?
→ 59. Posted by: ransomjackson at March 15, 2007 2:06 PM@Toe...I think you might be on to something about Locke....
→ 60. Posted by: Vikki at March 15, 2007 2:14 PMSo I see some of you noticed the left over fencing from the Jurassic park flick!
I was wondering how many other people would catch that :)
@GatorGal:
Last week I posted what I thought was how Locke was injured:
After Helen dumped Locke in the airport motel parking lot for associating with his father, Locke goes to the airport to have a final confrontation with his father who had ruined his only chance for happiness. When Locke gets to the gate, he finds his father boarding the plane to South America with Helen! Locke is devastated by the double cross con. He returns to the motel to get the $200k share of his father's con, only to find the thugs his father ripped off in the room. The thugs confront Locke who says take what's left of the money on the table, his $200k. But when the thug opens the package, he finds paper and not currency. Locke realizes that his father triple crossed him. As he turns to flee the room, he is shot in the back. The wound cripples him, physicially and emotionally. He vows to not trust anyone else; and make decisions only for his own benefit.
Jack's just making the best of a bad situation, and biding his time until he can escape. No way is he brainwashed or drugged.
And I agree that something fishy is happening with Rousseau. No way has she been there 16 years and not seen this stuff. No way. If so, the writers are making a huge continuity error.
@Matt: Ben was aware he had a tumor before the purple sky incident. And who is to say his tumor "came back"? We don't know it was something he'd had before. I think it's a stretch to say there is a connection between the islands healing powers and the hatch. But who the hell really knows, right?
I frickin' love this show.
Oh, and last night, my hubby and I said they should change the name of the show to "List," instead of "Lost," given how many lists there are and all the confusion surrounding said lists.
Definitely there are connections to Wizard of Oz. @Matt: you should do some searches of other blogs and chat rooms to see all the discussion around that. Lots of interesting comparisons.
→ 63. Posted by: Amanda S. at March 15, 2007 2:23 PMThanks for the great update. I have been lurking since the middle of season 2, when I became too busy to keep up with the posts. We had a bad storm last night and my DVR was apparently disrupted during taping, because the show ended as Claire was confronting Desmond by the beach. :( Regarding Rousseau, I think she knew about the pilons...she's not too forthcoming about much of anything. Regarding Claire, yea she's cute, but too whiny for my taste. Regarding Patch's criticisms, I think Kate is definitely the angry one. Thanks for the great update.
→ 64. Posted by: silkyway at March 15, 2007 2:28 PMIt seems to me that the killing effect of the sonic fence would only be localized to the area BETWEEN two pylons and that it is a deterent for animals that would be on the island.
Patchy got fried because he stood there and took it. At that point he was under orders (by Ms. Klugh) to kill himself.
If Patchy had kept running, he would have let the Losties know that they could get through the fence relatively easily. By killing himself, he follows orders as well as gives misinformation to our heroes.
→ 65. Posted by: Bill at March 15, 2007 2:31 PMI am going to give Rousseau the benefit of the doubt here. Think about it - the woman arrives on a island with a group of scientists, all of whom are 'stricken' with some sort of illness and she's the only survivor. If that's not enough to scare the pants of of you, would you really go exploring the massive jungle, alone, or would you hide out in your own little hole in the ground, only leaving to check the booby traps once in a while?
I totally believe that these areas are new to her, because she's been living the sheltered life for 16 years.
@Afleetingmemory - I think Rousseau said '16 years', not 60, because that's how long ago Alex was taken from her. She is sure that Alex would remember her from that long ago, let alone the fact that she was merely an infant.
→ 66. Posted by: Keluha at March 15, 2007 2:36 PM@welh:
Wow - that's a very plausable theory. I like.
→ 67. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 2:36 PMThis episode confirms my long-held belief that the Others know so much about the Losties, because "Jacob" is one of them. I think "the list" consists of the people who survived until some point in the future, when "Jacob" (Locke?) discovers the island's secret, and inadvertently transports himself back in time. With knowledge of the future, he amassed a fortune and established the outpost on the island, waiting for the plane crash he knew would come. I'm assuming that he wants to prevent the "accident" this time around, and needs key personnel from the Losties camp to make it so.
Or some variation thereof ...
→ 68. Posted by: ealgumby at March 15, 2007 2:37 PMI am going to give Rousseau the benefit of the doubt here. Think about it - the woman arrives on a island with a group of scientists, all of whom are 'stricken' with some sort of illness and she's the only survivor. If that's not enough to scare the pants of of you, would you really go exploring the massive jungle, alone, or would you hide out in your own little hole in the ground, only leaving to check the booby traps once in a while?
I totally believe that these areas are new to her, because she's been living the sheltered life for 16 years.
@Afleetingmemory - I think Rousseau said '16 years', not 60, because that's how long ago Alex was taken from her. She is sure that Alex would remember her from that long ago, let alone the fact that she was merely an infant.
→ 69. Posted by: Keluha at March 15, 2007 2:37 PMIt seems like Locke hasn't yet decided that he DOES want to join the others... YET. It just seems like he wants to find out more. The barracks situation is clearly going to remind him of the weed commune he misses.
JOSS made a good point, just above. We don't know what happened when Locke pressed 7-7. One more question/thing to look for in future flashbacks.
→ 70. Posted by: Herobill at March 15, 2007 2:38 PM@Cecil
I was wondering about Rousseau too. Did not see her cross fence, nor anytime after. Did she pull y'olde I survive by not checking things out line?
@petew
Not only was Patchy in the loop, but it is likely he was the one who got the info and passed it on. He was in charge of communication to the outside world!
Locke
Locke is one angry mo-fo!
From his backstories, we know that he has been betrayed many times. This explains his trust issues. He relies on his own instincts, and as we have seen, sometimes it pays off, and sometimes it is a bust. We may all atribute obi-wan like qualities to him, but he is human, o too human!
No doubt, after spending 4 years confined in a chair, the miracle of walking has definately messed his head about the island (whom he communicated with).
He is not an "Other" - he is just a messed up dude following his own wierd belief system, which takes priority over anyone and everyone, no matter how nice he is at times to fellow human beings. We've seen several occasions when he is more than willing to risk other peoples lives to follow his own gut instinct, and he will continue to do so....
I think it is key top recall that before Locke chucked Patchy to the fence, Patchy claimed that the fence was no longer functional. Locke was testing Patchies truthfulness. No doubt, he felt keeping Patchy alive was more risk than gain ("I like Dogs").
→ 71. Posted by: shikotee at March 15, 2007 2:41 PMGRAA Mac!
A few observations and then thoughts about other people's comments.
1. Dr. Shepherd. Wow - something big is building there. Maybe he isn't dead. I never really considered that because it was all too hokey (empty coffin and all that) but we all know that the Other Recruiters have no qualms about showing up in a morgue. (Rememeber them talking to Juliet in one?) Maybe Dr. Shepherd is a big allmight Other leader and faked his own death. It's not like Jack actually examined him, he just ID'd him. Hmm.
2. Onelostdude - I also vote for Losteria Lane. I love it!
3. Heyya - I agree. Why is it so crucial to Locke for people NOT to know he was paralyzed. I can't wait til next week to find out more about that! It's got to be more than just an ego thing.
4. Rob - LMAO on the dingo line.
5. Copwife - the idea of Danielle being branded like Juliet....very interesting. I like that possibility. I was troubled by her answer to Kate as to why she's not asking about Alex. Sure, its painful to find out about her life because she's not been a part of her, but I just can't imagine a mother not wanting to know EVERYTHING if given the opportunity to finally get information about her long-ago kidnapped daughter. Something really doesn't add up here. I want a Danielle Rousseau flashback!!!
LOST is back and with a vengence. The past few weeks have been the best yet!
→ 72. Posted by: hookedonlost at March 15, 2007 2:45 PMHow about this Rousseu theory:
She was part of the original Dharma Initiative and a part of the PURGE war with the hostiles. Her distress signal could have been sent when she realized that all was about to be lost. She may be the last living member of the original Dharma Initiative. The war took place around the same time she "claims" she and her team were shipwrecked. When she kidnapped Aaron it was to probably try and get into the good graces of the Others by bringing them an offering, she may have thought they would let her join their community and reunite with her daughter if she brought them something of value, i.e.: a perfect baby boy. She keeps saying that they lie, that asking them questions is pointless because they always lie. How would she know this unless she's had extensive contact with them in the past. Just a thought.
→ 73. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 2:45 PM@Mr. Grimm
Roussseau - Dharma
I was thinking the same thing. It would explain her claim to be a scientist/researcher. It would also provide insight towards her reluctance to go near Dharma structures. It would also explain why she treated Sayid as she did when she first encountered him - she thought he was one of the hostiles hunting her down.
Also - it might explain why she cut Patchy off when he was giving info on each. Patchy had named 3of4 - maybe she thought he would reveal her details next?
→ 74. Posted by: shikotee at March 15, 2007 2:57 PMMac,
It's been awhile since I've posted anything. i must say this is your funniest review ever.
The only thing i want to add is in the beginning of the episode when Claire first wakes up in the car and looks at the odometer, the total miles on the car is 108 (the infamous number strikes again!)
Also, when Dr. Sheperd went to visit Claire at the tattoo parlor, one of the tattoo designs on the wall was a decorative version of the name HURLEY. Got to love tivo. Just a couple of observations I've made.
→ 75. Posted by: Sam at March 15, 2007 2:59 PMMac,
It's been awhile since I've posted anything. i must say this is your funniest review ever.
The only thing i want to add is in the beginning of the episode when Claire first wakes up in the car and looks at the odometer, the total miles on the car is 108 (the infamous number strikes again!)
Also, when Dr. Sheperd went to visit Claire at the tattoo parlor, one of the tattoo designs on the wall was a decorative version of the name HURLEY. Got to love tivo. Just a couple of observations I've made.
→ 76. Posted by: Sam at March 15, 2007 3:00 PMI thought for sure that bird was going to fly into an invisible force field surround the island and get zapped like the Ruskie! Come on, who else thought that?!
Dead Daddy's gotta be pretty decomposed by now on that humid island :P
→ 77. Posted by: Connie at March 15, 2007 3:05 PMDr. Shepherd
The absence of his body was definately done on purpose by the writers - it is just a question of how significant this is.
Was death faked? Where is the body?
Dead or alive, he will be used at some point to link Claire to Jack as bro and sister, though this may be somewhere in season 4 or 5.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is somehow linked to Dharma/Jacob's minions. Perhaps there is more motivation behind his alcoholism than meets the eye?
It would certainly explain why he was down in the land down under shagging Claire's mom, and sticking around off and on throughout her first two years of life. Perhaps he was also working on the island?
→ 78. Posted by: shikotee at March 15, 2007 3:06 PM@ piecesofartz..
I though it was Michael J. Fox in a wig! That was great! LOL
I will not take credit for "Losteria Lane." I read it on the web, from this site I thought, but I guess not.
Great show.
@copwife: Jack did tell them to not come look for him so he has probably stopped thinking about trying to escape and assumes they will listen to him.
→ 80. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at March 15, 2007 3:09 PMRousseau does look like him in Back to the Future II playing his daughter, doesn't she? LOL - I never realized before.
→ 81. Posted by: hoookedonlost at March 15, 2007 3:11 PM@RansomJackson
I like your cloning theory, seems to gel well with Jack playing football (a clone, perhaps?) But then I started thinking about why Jack would be playing football. Doesn't Jack (or Matthew Fox) act in 'We Are Marshall', a football movie? We recently saw Hurley drive a "Little Miss Sunshine" bus. Desmond played Jesus in a recent movie, and knows the future. The writers are just toying with us. Matthew Fox probably joked about how to add football to a scene, and a smart writer edited in this unbelievable ending. Jack would never betray his fellow losties.
→ 82. Posted by: Loz at March 15, 2007 3:11 PMDoes anyone think that we may find out that the "friend" that told Dr. Shepard about Claire's mom is a part of the DARHMA organization, or maybe I am just shooting in the dark. I think that there is a possibility that Dr. Shepard may be involved.
→ 83. Posted by: Batteries Included at March 15, 2007 3:17 PMWow....I got pretty turned on watching Kate climbing that tree. Are we sure that our Ruskie cyclops is dead? Maybe he faked it with a mouth full of alka seltzer
→ 84. Posted by: redhotryan at March 15, 2007 3:17 PMIs the revelation that Jack and Claire have the same father that big? It would have been bigger news if her father wasn't Christian Shephard. The Lost writers have been force feeding us "clues" for 2+ seasons. I am glad they finally resolved it but why is everyone saying it was so huge?
→ 85. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:17 PMIs the revelation that Jack and Claire have the same father that big? It would have been bigger news if her father wasn't Christian Shephard. The Lost writers have been force feeding us "clues" for 2+ seasons. I am glad they finally resolved it but why is everyone saying it was so huge?
→ 86. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:18 PMIs the revelation that Jack and Claire have the same father that big? It would have been bigger news if her father wasn't Christian Shephard. The Lost writers have been force feeding us "clues" for 2+ seasons. I am glad they finally resolved it but why is everyone saying it was so huge?
→ 87. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:18 PMIs the revelation that Jack and Claire have the same father that big? It would have been bigger news if her father wasn't Christian Shephard. The Lost writers have been force feeding us "clues" for 2+ seasons. I am glad they finally resolved it but why is everyone saying it was so huge?
→ 88. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:19 PMIs the revelation that Jack and Claire have the same father that big? It would have been bigger news if her father wasn't Christian Shephard. The Lost writers have been force feeding us "clues" for 2+ seasons. I am glad they finally resolved it but why is everyone saying it was so huge?
→ 89. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:19 PMSorry about the double post.
→ 90. Posted by: Getting Tired Quick at March 15, 2007 3:21 PMweak: locke, bc of the wheel chair and what a sucker he's been in the past
angry: sayid, or maybe flawed, he does feel bad about his war activities, so he could be flawed or angry/both
flawed: kate, we know kate hasn't been an angel, she could be the angry one though, after punching out klugh, you can see she is clearly pissed, she was kidnapped as were her friends
frightened: rousseau, she avoids many things and was very guarded when sayid stumbled upon her as well as in other situations
Okay- I’m eating a little crow here because I thought Locke blowin’ up The Flame was an innocent mistake. Clearly he knew about the C4 now. So what happened? “If there has been an incursion by the Hostiles enter 77†or whatever DID NOT trigger the explosion. It triggered another message that gave Locke specific instruction on how to do it himself, and also offered him a side mission for power-ups at Losteria Lane!
I refuse to eat crow over this show again. “The John Locke I knew was a para…†“Look shiny object!!!†Next week we find out Locke was a paramedic ïŠ
I think the Jack/Claire relationship will come out once they both meet up with Daddy- but I think Daddy’s gonna be another incarnation of Smokey, Like Eko’s bro.
Rousseau wicked knows way more about what’s going on. I’m wondering if she’s really out to get her kid or if she’s really keeping tags on the Scooby gang for an as yet unknown buncha peeps on the island.
I’m Getting Tired Quick too man. What the funk was that?
→ 92. Posted by: Dr. Bologna at March 15, 2007 3:29 PMI was just thinking - Whatever happened to Rose and Sam?!
→ 93. Posted by: Connie at March 15, 2007 3:33 PM@PiecesofArzt...Who said the cloning had to happen overnight? Who knows how long Dharma has been watching or been involved with our Losties. Perhaps there is growth accelerant, like in Star Wars. Far-fetched? No more than the smoke monster that shows you a Tivoed version of your life or finding an old bus with rancid Dharma beer.
→ 94. Posted by: TammyD at March 15, 2007 3:35 PM@hookedonlost: I never considered the possibility of Dr. Shepherd faking his own death. Interesting theory.
Since Jack had ID'd him and the producers said that no one would ever come back from the dead, I'd always assumed that he was dead and gone. But if he was involved with Dharma it would somehow make sense if he faked his own death. And you have to wonder how Jack and Claire could possibly figure out their connection without him. Unless one of the Others (Ben?) reveals it.
→ 95. Posted by: copwife at March 15, 2007 3:36 PMWith the rise of the Locke Ness Monster persona, I believe that two show themes are colliding for attention. The main characters have shown two distinct attributes: first, they had serious daddy/parent issues; second, they were all running away from their past/friends/family/law/expectations. No matter what these runaways do, there are slowly turning into their parents that they ran away from in the first place. Locke is a prime example of this change in full bloom: he was a hard working, ethical guy who got conned by his father, dumped by his girlfriend, duped by drug farmers and the law, ran away to Australia to be denied his last chance, but on the island he "found" his new self which is turning himself into his cold blooded father. At the very least, Locke should have assumed that the fence was electrified (since he had been at a hatch with electronics in good working order) so when he shoved Patchy through the pylons, he was unconcerned whether he was electrocuted (or in this case sonic-smoothied) by the security system. Just like his father, he did not care who got hurt so long as he got his way.
just read the wizard of oz theory small but a good one...in the w of oz they need a heart (weak), brain (flawed), courage (frightened), home (angry)...could be...
→ 97. Posted by: nic at March 15, 2007 3:42 PMNo clones.
No implanted memories.
No time travel.
No phones, lotsa lights, no motor cars, but plenty of luxuries!
Jack's/Clair's daddy dearest is dead, I still maintain. The writers have always claimed that once a character is dead he/she is truly dead. Dr. Shepard Sr. died in real non-island life in a real morgue and was really identified as croaked by Jack. I think it would be REALLY cheesy for the writers to make him be alive now. All of the backstories about his destructive nature and alcoholism have lead to the truth the he drunk himself to death. I don't think they're trying to mislead us about that.
And isn't it plausible that the corpse fell out of the opened casket when the plane broke apart? And fell into the sea and is now Dharma shark bait? I'd believe that before I'd believe that he drunkenly faked his own death.
I agree with Mr. Grimm and other's points about Jack making the best of his current captive situation, with hopes that Ben will keep his word and let him go when healed. Why sit around and mope all the time? Since he can't be with the ones he loves, he's gonna love the ones he's with!
I also agree that the list that Mrs. Klugh gave to Michael had nothing to do with 'The List'. Different people, different purposes.
Great review by the way Mac...had me rolling as usual!
@Getting Tired Quick
>Sorry about the double post.
Actually it was a quintuple.
→ 99. Posted by: Cecil Rose at March 15, 2007 4:02 PMOops, make that:
No phones, lotsa lights, ONE motor car, and lots of luxuries!
A couple of things....
Charlie continues to avoid the grips of the Grim Reaper! He survived a plane crash, could have died from detoxing heroin, was killed by Ethan then revived by Jack, almost died when he crossed that rickety bridge with Hurley, ditched death when the hatch imploded, missed a lightening strike...the list goes on!
I recall Jack telling Kate in S1 that after they blow up the hatch, they have another problem to deal with - the Locke problem. And what a problem he's become. We didn't actually see him enter 77 just like we didn't actually see him kill that rookie cop at the weed colony. He probably went exploring like he usually does, found the C4 and blew up the place in good old Locke fashion. I sincerely hope that the next Lockecentric epi will give us some answers about him, the Island and Ben. I have this weird suspicion that Locke may try to kill Ben..and if he does well..that'll put another twist to this crazy adventure. (Plus, I wanna see Locke go COMPLETE Rambo!)
About Claire... her centrisode answered the question we already knew that Jack/Claire = bro/sis so I wasn't all that engaged. I kept wondering why the psychic didn't tell her that she will meet her half brother? And I did see her smile a little bit when her Dad mentioned that he would sing to her when she was a little tyke. Why wouldn't she want to know his name??
I just suddenly realized. The island is Fiji.
Survivor tech support was all lost in the Fiji coup and the contestants had to fend for themselves.
The Others are the descendents of Mojo.
The Losties are the descendents of Ravu, with false memories of a plane crash implanted.
→ 102. Posted by: Cecil Rose at March 15, 2007 4:09 PMMaybe Claire is a natural blonde, and was coloring it black to be goth?
Or maybe hair just grows REALLY slowly on the island?
→ 103. Posted by: JoePike at March 15, 2007 4:09 PMList: I think that Jack may or may not be on the list...they definitely wanted him to remove Ben's tumor. I don't think that Kate and Sawyer were on THE list...they were on the list given to Michael...and in the episode that Sun, Jin and Sayid are on the boat...Sayid says they need THREE people...two to make the third one do what they want. I've always felt this explained why they took Kate and Sawyer...to make Jack do the surgery. And it worked.
→ 104. Posted by: Bethany at March 15, 2007 4:11 PMWho's coloring Claire's hair? After 80
days not a root in sight! She looks
better blond, beautiful eyes, contacts?
→ Posted by: Jenny Tailia at March 15, 2007 04:01 PM
Jenny Talia maybe clair really shares the same hair color as jack her brohter...
→ 105. Posted by: Tits Mgeee at March 15, 2007 4:17 PMSome comments ....
(1) The Flame did not disrupt power on the island because it is a communication station, not a power station.
(2) Until activated with a body, the fence puts out a noise that people can't hear, but animals can. That would explain no dead animals laying around.
(3) There are underground passages out of Otherville, per the map Sayid looked at regarding the circle of Jurrasic Park' poles.
(4) Did anyone see the movie 'Wild Hogs'? Tom (aka. Mr. Friendly) plays a tuff guy biker
Jacob has three toes and was around before the statue was built and he's still around now. That would explain the Jacob worship.
→ 107. Posted by: mylostshow at March 15, 2007 4:49 PMCorrection Jacob has 4 toes.
→ 108. Posted by: mylostshow at March 15, 2007 4:52 PM@shikotee:
Actually, I don't know if this would qualify as a spoiler but Damon Lindleoff already stated that Jack and Claire will find out about their connection 6 eps after we do - sounds like that would happen near the end of the season - hmmmmmm. If anyone considers this info a spoiler then I do apologize.
→ 109. Posted by: Mr. Grimm at March 15, 2007 4:55 PMOk I am ticked, either I got drunk last night and do not remember or I missed a great part of last nights episode. I had it on my DVR and was watching and it ended with Claire and Desmond dicussing Desmonds powers and that was it, the local news started. I am ticked off!!!
→ 110. Posted by: D Ral at March 15, 2007 5:20 PMI think Jacks dad will play a big roll when we finally find out what the hole story is. There is no other character that keeps showing up from the first ep-till the new one we all just watched. Maybe he is the "greatman". For he is a doctor and the main characters dad??????????
→ 111. Posted by: dantheman at March 15, 2007 5:51 PMJack and Tom sitting in a tree.......
Sorry if this was already bought up in comments, but in season one, when claire found out she was pregnant, didnt she say her mom would disown her? Mom would have long been in the vegetative state. WHats that about?
[quote=Mac]bloody corpses of rabbits and boars and polar bears[/quote]
Oh My!
Hee hee!
I am the only one confused by the scene where Sun/Jin/Claire were about to capture a bird before Des' shooting scared it off?
Assuming that Des did it deliberately, as Claire believes, what was the point?
How would letting Jin capture that bird in a net harm Charlie (or for that matter, anyone?)
In fact, if they had caught it doesn't that mean Charlie wouldn't slip and die on the rocks trying to capture a bird himself?
If Desmond's whole boar story is true, then it's pretty lazy writing to have this event drive Claire into finding out about Desmond's powers.
Did I miss something in Desmond's plans?
→ 114. Posted by: PeaJay18 at March 15, 2007 7:27 PM@Mr. Grimm...
Interesting....
I wonder how they will pull it off?
Perhaps the beach crew will find the body, and both Clair and Sawyer will identify it? Other than Ana Lucia, was there anyone from the beach crew that knew Jack's dad?
I'm just assuming Jack will not head back to the beach anytime soon. Perhaps someone from the Others will inform Jack?
Now more than ever, I think we will find out that the late Dr. Shephard was involved with island research. If such was the case, they would know about both offspring. Now that Jack is getting cozier with the Others, maybe someone will share this info with him?
→ 115. Posted by: shikotee at March 15, 2007 7:43 PMline of the day: "severe intestinal reactions to tropical fruit (paulo)"
"Besides the opening moments of the pilot episode when Dr. Jack tends to the then-preggers Claire, when have they been together?"
Remember when Ethan attacked Claire? Brother Jack tried to convince her it was all in her head and then proceeded to push sedatives on his pregnant sis. real nice.
-that could be a sore subject for them-
Finally, I know this is crazy but I feel like we're going to find out Christian Shepard is alive and well, calling the shots and could possibly be the "him" they always refer to. He's already had contact with many of the 815ers, so he's definitely involved in some way.
Thanks for the great write-up every week!
→ 116. Posted by: LT at March 15, 2007 8:10 PMI don't think we are ever going to find out if Sayid got the job at the restaurant.
→ 117. Posted by: lostsox at March 15, 2007 8:37 PMA few comments...
I don't think Patchy or the sonic fence, or a bunch of other things are new to Rousseau. Her lines have carefully NOT said that she knows nothing about them...only that she's avoided them and similar things. I think that this careful phrasing by the writers isn't a plot hole.
My husband figures Jack (like someone else said) is making the best of a bad situation - life must be much better in houses with plumbing and electricity, ya know? So why not get to know his 'captors' and see if he can figure out how to get out of the place. He doesn't seem to be so mercenary that he'd completely forget all of his buds.
And I remember from some bit of knowledge from far back... there's a saying: If you save someone's life you are responsible for it forever. Oh, well, Desmond...you have your job cut out for you!
→ 118. Posted by: Helen at March 15, 2007 8:51 PMLOL @
----"I believe Charlie was holding a twisty-tie right before they attached the note to the bird. That should have given the note at least the chance to not fall off."
----the dingo eating baby comment
----Michael J Fox wig comment
----who mows the lawn between the killer poles comment
-----and the Locke paramedic comment
To those who asked if Rousseau went over the fence. I had to watch again but yes she is with the the other three when they are looking at "perturbia" aka losteria lane aka the barracks. I find this unbelievable that she would avoid "the flame" altogther but was willing to climb the fence, if you can call it that, and go to the actually dwelling place of the others.
Some have suggested the island heals flaws, but not after the explosion/implosion ruined the magnetic/healing ablilities. Wouldnt Locke's paralysis be returned by now if thats the case?
I believe there are at least 3 different lists being spoken of. One for the tailies, the fuselage losties and whomever Mikail was speaking about.
The character relationship between Sayid and Locke is superb. I dismiss the idea also that Locke killed Mikhail intentionally and that he knew the flame would explode. He has typically given simple answers to complex questions toward his motivations. No reason to change his style now. The best line of the show for me was in response to Rousseau suggesting to use John's C4 on the pole. In response he says, "Be my guest....you wanna go stick it on there?"
I feel lost on the timeline regarding how long Jack has been with the others. Anyone got an idea?? because he was not only playing a game of catch....they were REALLY having a blast there. Tom never looked so happy.
And finally, if you managed to read this far, a quote from Ayn Rands book "The Fountainhead" that Sawyer was reading: Gail Wynand (to Howard Roark): “There’s a particular kind of people that I despise. Those who seek some sort of a higher purpose or ‘universal goal,’ who don’t know what to live for, who moan that they must ‘find themselves.’â€
i will echo Mac's last question and add some of my own:
-what happened to all the whispers in the jungle?
-why don't the Others creep around all dirty and sneaky and quiet like in the jungle anymore?
-what happened to the smoke monster?
-what happened to michael and walt?
-when are we going to get more answers on that 4-toed statue thinger?
it seems that some big mystery elements of seasons 1 and 2 have been dropped by the writers. not good, i need closure!
→ 120. Posted by: karen at March 15, 2007 9:33 PMi will echo Mac's last question and add some of my own:
-what happened to all the whispers in the jungle?
-why don't the Others creep around all dirty and sneaky and quiet like in the jungle anymore?
-what happened to the smoke monster?
-what happened to michael and walt?
-when are we going to get more answers on that 4-toed statue thinger?
it seems that some big mystery elements of seasons 1 and 2 have been dropped by the writers. not good, i need closure!
→ 121. Posted by: karen at March 15, 2007 9:34 PMGreat review Mac.
Although I am truely concerned about Jack playing football with tom at the end, I mean what the hell was that all about?
If memory serves me right, at one point Jack tells Kate and Sawyer: "don't come back for me"....
Could there be a possibility that Jack was planted like Ethan and the other dude that went to the tailies??? I doubt it but dang...this is LOST right?
Or could Jack have been brainwashed with some sort of ultrasonic brainwahing ray?
Anyone?????
Dr. Bologna...very good call. Jack and Jill, oops, I mean Claire, will run into Dr. Daddy while catching up on missed scenes together in the jungle. Definitely.
As for John, does anyone get the idea that he is really #1? You know, The Island and all of that? Maybe he is The Great Man and he is just putting on a real show. Wow...whata concept!
Danielle and Benry...I still can't get that image in my head. What's-her-name, you know, the daughter (how many scene's has she been in? Really? That many and I can't even remember her name? Must be that I'm para...what's that shiny object over there? My remote! Awesome...)
I can't wait for next week, and especially the ongoing thoughts.
From the Alternate Universe...good evening.
- Neo
Dr. Bologna...very good call. Jack and Jill, oops, I mean Claire, will run into Dr. Daddy while catching up on missed scenes together in the jungle. Definitely.
As for John, does anyone get the idea that he is really #1? You know, The Island and all of that? Maybe he is The Great Man and he is just putting on a real show. Wow...whata concept!
Danielle and Benry...I still can't get that image in my head. What's-her-name, you know, the daughter (how many scene's has she been in? Really? That many and I can't even remember her name? Must be that I'm para...what's that shiny object over there? My remote! Awesome...)
I can't wait for next week, and especially the ongoing thoughts.
From the Alternate Universe...good evening.
- Neo
Numbers & 8 toes
I was wondering if there was any connection between the numbers (the highest of which is 8) and 8 toes, and the bars around the Dharma logo. It's a bit off topic as none of those were mentioned in this episode...
I know that the numbers can't be base 8, because there wouldn't be an 8 (right?) But, there isn't a 9. OK, or a 7,3, or 1 alone. So that observation may not hold any water.
Next, the Dharma logo with the 3 rows of bars on each side -except the bars aren't the same on each side. Some sort of binary or other representation?
Maybe I enjoyed DaVinci code too much...
Obviously I'm lazy and want someone else to seize upon my idea and run with it. I have 2 kids and a graduate project to work on.....
-Helen
→ 125. Posted by: Helen at March 15, 2007 10:43 PMJust a general comment to everyone wondering about the Lostaways' access to fresh water now that they're not living in the caves: There have been several scenes over the last couple of seasons that show characters filling water bottles from a bamboo-framed black-plastic-tarp-covered trough on the beach. I would venture that the background Lostaways, who aren't dealing w/parental issues, exploding/imploding hatches, etc., organized themselves & built a pipeline of some sort from the fresh water source to the beach trough. Perhaps that's what Rose & Bernard have been doing—keeping daily life going on. Someone has to be the adult there! ; >
→ 126. Posted by: Alaïs_Longthought at March 15, 2007 11:34 PMAwesome episode - Lost is back to its glory days, finally.
About Rousseau - I'm starting to think she's not who we think she is. Could she be avoiding these Others for reasons other than just survival?
About Locke - he's just as fishy as Rousseau.
→ 127. Posted by: James at March 15, 2007 11:38 PM@mac "...Dharma World (or Other Land or Hostileville -- we really need a name for this place..."
I have always called it Otherville but I read that the writers have referred to it as Downtown after the song that was playing when it was first revealed.
Having said that, I would like to suggest some alternatives:
Lost Angeles
Bensylvania
Loston
Listburg
Lost Vegas
Crashville
Benessee
If named after room 23: Trance-lvania
If the theory that Jack is "Him" turns out to be true: JacksOneville
If named after the animals at the Flame: Cowafornia, KaBull, Catisburg, or MosCow
If named after Alexes' Boyfriend: kARlKANSAS
If named after the work that Saywer and Kate were forced to do: Little Rock
If named after the trek Locke and group performed to get there: Illwalkee
If named after Ben's free healthcare plan (ie Jack): FeeNix
If it turns out that Jack and Ben are brothers: TwoSon
If the four toed statue turns out to be a major player in the Lost mythology: ToeKey-yo
If named after Ben and his sickness: ManIlla
If named after Juliet's vocal challenges: Sing-a-poor
If named after the island's favorite wild meat: New Pork
And finally if it turns out that Dr. Christian Shephard is really "Him": BadDad
That was a great post!!!
→ 129. Posted by: kilorooster at March 15, 2007 11:55 PMOh, and how could I forget...
What if it were named after Juliet's "brand": BenMark
→ 130. Posted by: bcre8ve at March 16, 2007 12:12 AMI think the reason Locke wants to keep his paralysis a secret is that he has no intention of leaving the island and risk going back into the chair. Unlike Rose, he is willing to be proactive about making sure they stay. If they knew his prior situation was not as good as his current one, they might figure out that his motivation is different than thiers and trust him less. Why Rousseau "helped" with his secret remains a mystery.
→ 131. Posted by: JT at March 16, 2007 1:26 AMThe writers seem to be going all Trashcan Man from The Stand with Lockes character now. Just dont let the man near any nukes.
→ 132. Posted by: ndaly at March 16, 2007 1:54 AMGreat review indeed.
@all
Lately, I'm seeing lot's of wondering why didn't Rosseau know anything about buildings on island.
But I do recall...
When introduced to series, Rosseau was being very afraid of going outside from her hideout. She was surprised to see anyone walking around on island... alive.
And a story about a virus that supposedly "killed all her team" and mumblings like this. Doesn't that explain 16 years of ignorance?
Or have I forgot anything?
→ 133. Posted by: InCreator at March 16, 2007 4:20 AMAnother great review from master MAC!
Well, I for one was not surprised that Jack was enjoying himself in Otherville. I mentioned that last week, something in the way that he said to Kate “…never come back for me.†was fishy.
Locke’s actions make sense, I am watching Season 1 on DVD and he has found his true calling on the island. The fact that he is afraid to leave the island of fear from being paralyzed again is his biggest motivator and most likely would be for anyone of us. He may have not entered “77†while in the flame (he might have triggered the explosion on purpose) and while the effect (the Flame exploding) is the same his motivation is questionable. Why would he have to leave the island even if they are found? He can choose to remain back (great life: no taxes, no news about Anna Nicole Smith and Britney Spears 24/7 on TV) it is almost paradise. Also, the C4 was in the basement and Locke did not venture down there. Why did they never explore flame after they secured Patchy for the second time is beyond me? These manuals, folders and files should have more answers than anyone could give them and they would be for free. Anyhow the next episode should give us some welcoming answers on Locke.
It is true that the writers either forgot some of the mysteries/aspects of seasons past or they have made mistakes, after all they are humans (or are they notJ?). One that pops into my mind while watching season 1 French language Sayid did not speak it at all but then last week we find out that he lived in Paris at least for a while (unless if that Eifel Tower in the background was the one in Las Vegas).
Jack’s father must be playing a bigger role in the future than we initially believed. Walt and Michael will return (on the show) that is what the writers have already confirmed, it remains to be seen if they are also in Otherville or if they shipwreck on the island.
For some reason I do not care much about Claire, she has beautiful eyes but what exactly is her role? Maybe Aaron, her son will again become central to the story line. Glad to see Brother back on, he and Locke are my favorite characters.
Am I the only one frustrated with the flashbacks? In the last couple episodes there is a lot happening on the island and although the flashbacks provide information I found myself screaming at the TV when they switched to them, although the story with Sayid last week was powerful. I strongly believe that it is time to concentrate to the island and minimize the time that the writers/directors
Before noon, even.
You da man, mac!
→ 1. Posted by: Cecil Rose at March 15, 2007 11:43 AM