The Lost Blog

Key Points from "The Substitute"

Season 6, Episode 4
Episode Air Date: 02/16/10

Point 1

Locke Sawyer

Remember when Locke and Sawyer tag-teamed on Cooper? They were an odd couple, to be sure, but dammit, those guys got stuff done. Men of action! Men of conviction!

And yet, strangling Cooper in the bowels of the Black Rock was but a mere prelude to what Sawyer and the artist formerly known as Locke may truly accomplish. Their latest partnership (or new partnership, if you want to get technical about it) appears to revolve around two of the sixth season's biggest questions: Why does Flocke/Smokey/Man in Black want to get off the island? And related to that, how will he get off the island?

After this latest episode, we still don't know the why, but I'm guessing the how involves assistance from a scraggly-haired grieving con-man who really, truly, couldn't give a damn about anything at this point. (Except his whiskey. He does love his whiskey.)

In addition to this unusual new partnership, we also learn a few important details about Flocke himself (the usual disclaimers about distrust of dubious characters applies to what follows ... caveat emptor and all that):

-- Flocke claims to have been "trapped" for a very long time. Who trapped him hasn't been clarified. The likely suspect is Jacob, but there may be a higher power at play as well. More on that in a moment.

-- The Man in Black / Smokey used to take on multiple forms (Christian Shephard, Yemi, etc.), but Ilana reveals he's now stuck in Locke's body. How she knows this is beyond me.

-- Flocke found the Jacob administration's policy of non-disclosure quite silly. He's flabbergasted to learn that Richard really had no idea why Jacob did the things he did.

-- Flocke says he was once a man who felt joy, fear, anger, betrayal, loss, sunburn, spider bites, mild nausea after consuming dairy ... all that fun human stuff. But seeing as he can now dent bullets and take the form of a smoke pillar, I'm guessing he's traded all that complicated emotion for something more fundamental: revenge. Whether that revenge is justified is another matter.

-- He's occasionally visited by a pre-teen blond-haired boy who likes to flash his blood-stained hands. This boy -- who just has to be some type of Jacob apparition -- reminds Flocke about the "rules," specifically the one that forbids killing "him." Don't you just love it when tween ghost boys use open-ended phrasing? We have no idea what governing body sets these rules (that's the higher power I was alluding to a moment ago). Nor do we know who the "him" in question is here. It could be Sawyer. That would seem reasonable. But it could also be Richard ... or Jack, Jin, Sayid, Hurley, Miles, Frank, Ben, Lennon, Dogen or any other living or sorta-living island male. (Note: Sawyer sees the blond boy, too. This doesn't seem like Hurley/dead people redux.)

-- Flocke has access to a secluded beachside cave that he once timeshared with Jacob. They chose a Spartan aesthetic for the place: a simple scale -- one side holding a black rock, the other a white -- was once the foyer's most dominant element. But Flocke never cared much for that white rock. Down the hall, a little to the right, you'll find a dark study where Jacob (allegedly) wrote castaway names and numbers on the walls. Most of the names are crossed out, but Flocke points out a few that are still in play: Reyes, 8; Ford, 15; Jarrah, 16; Kwon, 42; Shephard, 23.

Let's spend a moment on this cave business. Besides being the most TiVo-worthy moment since Radzinksy's map was uncovered, it also plugs into the series' long-percolating destiny vs. free will motif. If Flocke is to be believed, Jacob has for centuries -- millennia perhaps -- manipulated the life choices of potential "candidates" so they'll come to the island and someday take over Jacob's role as island protector. We saw hints of this in the season five finale (we also saw oddly overt flashbacks to those same moments in this episode -- anyone else find that jarring?).

So the cave stuff filled my head with a bunch of questions. In no particular order:

  • Jacob seemed content with his position -- smug even -- so why bother looking for a replacement? Is that part of the job description? "Must train successor"?
  • I didn't see Kate's name on the wall and it's unclear if "Kwon" refers to Sun or Jin. All the other names were men. Is the island exhibiting a little male chauvinism here?
  • Flocke raises a good point: What, exactly, was Jacob protecting the island from?

There's lots more to consider with this Flocke/cave business, but let's move on for now.

Point 2


In this episode's alternate timeline scenes, John Locke loses his job but finds a more suitable one as a substitute teacher (with assists from Rose and Hurley); he finds a potential friend in fellow teacher Benjamin Linus (a European History instructor ... of course); he's engaged to Helen; and, best of all, he finally admits there are things he can't do, and maybe, just maybe, that's okay.

It's such an interesting shift for this character. The John Locke we've known for years needed external validation. He needed someone else -- or something else -- to deem him special. But the alt-timeline version of Locke seems to find the peace Original Locke never could. And he does it quietly, by just letting go.

Granted, a peaceful resolution doesn't make for high drama, but I wonder if the writers will use the same driving question -- What would happen if these people weren't crazyballs? -- to explore characters in the alt timeline.

One other thing from the alt universe: Oceanic found Locke's missing knives. I really thought certain props would be plucked from the alt timeline and used as breadcrumbs back to the original timeline. So much for that idea.

Point 3

Ilana Ben Sun Frank

The assorted characters who spent the last four episodes milling about the statue have now scattered to the winds. Most are headed for the temple. Ilana, Ben, Sun and Frank are going that way, too, but first they have to bury Locke in the Oceanic castaways' cemetery. There isn't a whole lot of action in this storyline, but we do see Ilana scoop and save a handful of ash from Jacob's extinguished fire. Jacob's remains are supposedly mixed in with that ash, so I wonder if it'll later reappear as some sort of super-repellant in a future run-in with Smokey.

These scenes are also interesting because Ben freely (and awkwardly) admits to killing Locke but he lies to Ilana about Jacob's murder. Good to see Mr. Linus is in fine duplicitous form.

Point 4


A few closing questions and observations:

  • Best Line: "Well I guess I better put some pants on." -- Sawyer to Flocke.
  • Second Best Line: "This is the weirdest damn funeral I've ever been to." -- Frank, muttering to himself after Ben's awkward eulogy/confession.
  • Third Best Line: "Randy Nations ... that guy is a huge douche." -- Hurley to Locke.
  • Sun and Jin are never going to reunite. I'm convinced of it now. Ilana tells Sun that Jin -- if he's alive -- will be hiding out at the temple. But as we know from last week, Jin is now in Claire's clutches. These two are doomed to wander the island and miss each other by mere seconds over and over again.
  • The producers have noted a number of times that season six will be a bookend to season one. So far, it's more like a mirror. The first four episodes of season one went like this: pilot 1 & 2 (all characters, but most of the focus on Jack), "Tabula Rasa" (Kate-centric), "Walkabout" (Locke-centric). Compare that to season six: "LA X" 1 & 2 (all characters, but most of the focus on Jack), "What Kate Does" (Kate-centric), "The Substitute" (Locke-centric). And it looks like the pattern will hold next week: season one, episode five ("White Rabbit") was Jack-centric; season six, episode five also appears to be Jack-centric.

That's all I've got!

Next Episode:

"Lighthouse" -- We take another dip into Jack's on-island angst and alt-timelline adventures. Airs Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2010 at 9 p.m. on ABC.

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#1. Posted by: Cecil at February 17, 2010 12:14 AM


#2. Posted by: meg at February 17, 2010 12:15 AM

shikotee is third! ;)

#3. Posted by: shikotee at February 17, 2010 12:17 AM

Here are some random observations:

3PCI068 - Locke's Cali licence plate. Any meaning?

Locke in tub, comparing the light and dark fabric! LoL!!!

Helen mentions to skip the big wedding, and just invite her folks, and Locke's dad. So - One would assume that he was not the one responsible for Locke's leg injury?

Smokey P.O.V. shots were awesome! Loved it when you could see smokey's reflection off the window of Sawyer + Juliet's house in Dharmaville - with "Search and Destroy" by Iggy Pop and the Stooges playing in the background (during this scene, and when he returns to visit Sawyer in the house).

Good choice of song for Sawyer's state of mind. Check out the lyrics:

"I'm a street walking cheetah
with a hide full of napalm
I'm a runaway son of the nuclear A-bomb
I am a world's forgotten boy
The one who searches and destroys
Honey gotta help me please
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby detonates for me
Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology !
Ain't got time to make no apology
Soul radiation in the dead of night
Love in the middle of a fire fight
Honey gotta strike me blind
Somebody gotta save my soul
Baby penetrates my mind
And I'm the world's forgotten boy
The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
And honey I'm the world's forgotten boy
The one who's searchin', searchin' to destroy
Forgotten boy, forgotten boy
Forgotten boy said
hey forgotten boy"

#4. Posted by: shikotee at February 17, 2010 12:27 AM

I found Ben's admission to killing Locke oddly compelling. He seemed to truly express remorse for something. He's seemed sorry for things such as his daughter's death, but to hear him actually come out and say it seemed to be growth for him.

What made John qualified to teach? Does he have a degree in education?

If the black rock on the scale seemingly represented MIB then why does it seem that Jacob brought the Black Rock to the island?

Are the names on the wall the source of the lists? Does assigning numbers to the names indicate that the characters are components of the Valenzetti equation?

So much to think about here. much better than last week...

#5. Posted by: Crispy Seaplanes at February 17, 2010 12:29 AM

Great review again Mac, you've done great in helping nerds like myself find something else to satisfy our lost addictions in the space between episodes.

I'm still not convinced that Flocke is the man in black. But my only basis for that is the interview with the producers on Jimmy Kimmell after the first episode of this season aired. I guess I will have to wait and find out.

I really hope Sawyer somehow sticks around to save everyone, I never bought that crap about him being a coward when he jumped from the heli, pure heroics and selflessness is what I saw.

Until next week...

#6. Posted by: csmithfdub at February 17, 2010 12:30 AM

The number for Kwon is 42. =)

#7. Posted by: Silhouette at February 17, 2010 12:31 AM


>-- The Man in Black / Smokey used to take on multiple forms (Christian Shephard, Yemi, etc.), but Ilana reveals he's now stuck in Locke's body. How she knows this is beyond me.

Not too sure about this. We saw him as Smokey tonight, or, at least, from his viewpoint as Smokey. So why couldn't he turn in to others also?


>There's lots more to consider with this Flocke/cave business, but let's move on for now.

What I'm wondering is - how is Sawyer getting back out of there, given that the rope-ladder broke? Will Flocke have to change into Smokey and carry him?


>Third Best Line: "Randy Nations ... that guy is a huge douche." -- Hurley to Locke.

Especially funny when you realize it's probably a shout-out to production staffer Greg Nations.


>Sun and Jin are never going to reunite.

I absolutely, positivily guarantee they reunite. If fact, we've already seen it (he said mysteriously.)


#8. Posted by: Cecil at February 17, 2010 12:34 AM

Scooping the ash: Pouring ash around the cabin, in the jungle -- Jacob has died and been burned before? The kid is a reincarnation.

#9. Posted by: Will at February 17, 2010 12:35 AM

Scooping the ash: Pouring ash around the cabin, in the jungle -- Jacob has died and been burned before? The kid is a reincarnation.

#10. Posted by: Will at February 17, 2010 12:35 AM


No mention of the numbers revealed?


And these names are definitely on the list that was in Hurley's guitar.

#11. Posted by: KD at February 17, 2010 12:45 AM

Yes, Mac, those were all funny lines, but I'm still LMFAO at giving a eulogy for someone & closing with "and I'm very sorry I murdered him." That is just standalone hysterical.

#12. Posted by: hurling at February 17, 2010 12:55 AM

Sun and Jin will reunite in the last episode and we will all cry like babies!

Compare and contrast: Radzinski telling Desmond that he was grooming him to replace him (so he could leave the island) and Jacob grooming replacements (for leaving the island)?

Could they have never aired last week's Kate episode and we would have been just as far along in the story?

Now we finally know that Hurley did own Locke's box company.

Maybe Ilana is going to use the Hottub to bring Jacob back? Or just needs a bag of ash in case Smokey returns?

#13. Posted by: PiecesofArzt at February 17, 2010 12:56 AM

First, still not seeing anything inconsistent with the theory of the island as a tropical purgatory gameboard between life/light (Jacob) and death/dark (Smokey), where the characters are the gamepieces and the fate of the island is literally (per the scales in the caves) in the balance.

I've also suggested before that Smokey is "pinned" or trapped to the island itself- he can't get high enough off the ground to go over the barrack sonic fence or go through the water in the underground caves. For the second time this season, Smokey has talked of being "trapped" and wanting to escape.

But the big reveal this episode is the explanation of the numbers, a true high-def frame by frame DVR moment. Here's what I've gathered:

First, according to the numbering, there are over 300 names on the ceiling. Included are members of the 1954 US Army (Mattingly, Cunningham, and Jones), the Rousseau science team (Lacombe and Rousseau), the Others (Juliet Burke, Pickett), the freighter team (Faraday, Charlotte Lewis) and the Dharma initiative (Goodspeed, Straume- presumably meaning Dr. Chang?)

The names include both men and women, all called to the island by Jacob. I'm guessing that pre-island Jacob touched all of these candidates, not just the ones we've seen. The act of touching is the physical manifestation of Jacob's tapestry- weaving the destiny of the selected individuals.

The names include unfamiliar names- both Spanish (Almieda, Bargas, Kalin, Costa, Domingo) and English (Goldstein, O'Toole, Reynolds, Petersen, Grant, Martin).

Crossed out Oceanic names included Rutherford, Pace, Carlyle, Troupe, Sullivan- and Littleton. Sorry, Claire, I guess you really are one of the undead.

If Sawyer was paying more attention, he would have noticed that Smokey deliberately omitted the emotional zing of Kate's name/number when convincing him to play ball for the other team.

He also missed his recently lost love Burke- and the major clue that the only way that pieces come off the board (i.e., get crossed off) is death.

Going way back to post-season 1 and the Lost Experience, the numbers were developed as the Valenzetti equation and the start of the Dharma project: mathematical variables necessary to stop the end of the world (Faraday to Jack: "we're the variables").

Hurley won the lottery with those numbers but felt cursed. A good metaphor for the last six survivors- the final selected ping pong balls out of hundreds of other candidates, but cursed to go round and round the island merry-go-round until when?

#14. Posted by: Mizzed at February 17, 2010 12:58 AM

-Numbers are the Numbers, so who is 4 (and why are the Oceanic people that important that their numbers are used so much)
-I am guessing that the cabin had some type of locked in affect for Flocke and Jacob wasn't in it ("Help Me" said by Flocke), someone broke seal and Ilana upset. Yes smokey was active but hadn't since Richard in a long time, the Others were more or less free of it and Ben seemed to control it to some level (thus Flocke was controlled by being in the cabin with the ash around it, Jacob didn't need it cause of the "rules")
-kid is not Jacob (Aaron?), perhaps one of them (Flocke and Jacob), Angels or aliens, who knows
-getting bored with second timeline, they need to start giving more answers

#15. Posted by: Stock at February 17, 2010 12:59 AM

My only question is... why in the season finale of season 2 Hurley was not on the list of the others and had to go back... What is his role in the story now that he is written on the wall?

#16. Posted by: Bushhound2 at February 17, 2010 1:05 AM

It was Kelvin not Radzinski making Desmond take his place

#17. Posted by: Stock at February 17, 2010 1:06 AM

Mac, great review as always.

Mizzed, that's good stuff. Thanks for the analysis.

Thanks to all the blog contributors. This blog adds a lot to the lost experience IMHO.

#18. Posted by: D Cyprian at February 17, 2010 1:13 AM

Great ep!!!

My theory on the show, after seeing this episode... and I know will likely be contradicted a thousand times before the end - and may even not jive with some things we've seen - goes like this:

Flocke/MIB/Smoke Monster represents some sort of incarnation of the Devil, who has been banished to the Island. I get this when Flocke tells Sawyer, "I was a man once too" - or something to that effect.. Knowing the ties to Christianity, the Devil was a "man" once - or a fallen angel, turned to the dark side.
So the Smoke Monster Man is banished to his Island prison where he can not leave, and can not return home. He is kept in line by Jacob, et all. But now he wants to go home.

But what happens when/if he gets home? My theory is that he will bring about nothing less than the end of the world. The religious apocalypse that has been hinted at throughout the series

We already know that the numbers were tied to some sort of 'world saving formula' - and that each of the characters (minus Kate???) are assigned these numbers, based on what is written in Jacob's cave. Because these people are the specific formula who have the ability to save the world - but only if they go to the island and that things happen the way they are "supposed to". This makes sense why these numbers are so important to the island, because these numbers do, inevitably save the world. Unless Flocke gets his way, and wins this war. Then the world goes bye-bye.

I think the thoughts are a lot clearer in my head, but does this make sense to anyone? Anyone care to expand?

#19. Posted by: vintage at February 17, 2010 1:15 AM

Answers!!! =]

#20. Posted by: ilovebenjaminlinusxx at February 17, 2010 1:16 AM

Long time reader, first time poster. This was SO much better than last week.
RE: Post # 8, when we saw the reflection of Smokey in the window of Sawyer's Dharma duplex, it looked white to me. So, that would not have been Flocke, but rather the white smoke that Locke encountered early on?

I could be wrong. It's happened before.

#21. Posted by: linda hardman at February 17, 2010 1:17 AM

The most believable lie is one that contains a fragment of truth. Maybe Flocke was being honest...and the island DOESNT need protecting (from outsiders). Maybe it was protecting everyone outside from Smokey/MIB/Flocke. A jail, as it were.

#22. Posted by: Wyatt at February 17, 2010 1:18 AM

More observations:

You know things are weird when the guy who freaks people out with visions of dead people is seemingly freaked out by a vision of young boy (Jacob?).

Best line - Sawyer: I don't give a damn if you're dead - or time traveling, or the ghost of christmas past - all i care about is this whiskey. So bottom's up... and get the hell out of my house!

Loved how Flocke and Sawyer lie to each other. Sawyer about talking to Richard, and Flocke about talking to the kid. They both know they are lying, and leave it at that.

Before smokey was "trapped", he was a man, just like Sawyer.

The Ben eulogy was awesome! Love it when Frank delivers his observations...

"Don't tell me what I can't do" - Interesting that Flocke shouts this out to the young boy, while flash sideways Locke perspective has changed after talking to Rose. He recalls shouting at the people who denied his walkabout, but now accepts that they were right.

#23. Posted by: shikotee at February 17, 2010 1:21 AM

All I want to know is this... How the heck does Locke drive? If he can't walk and is stuck in a wheelchair, how'd he just whip home from the airport, and get back and forth to work? Is there something about driving while handicapped that I just don't know of?

#24. Posted by: Steve at February 17, 2010 1:30 AM

Also love the "Inside Joke" line as Flocke throws the white stone away...

#25. Posted by: Steve at February 17, 2010 1:33 AM

Flocke surpised that Sawyer could see the boy (young Jacob likely) while Richard didn't. Didn't Sawyer also see Kate's horse in season 1 and Kate was surprised he could see it too? Interesting if true.

#26. Posted by: Beth at February 17, 2010 1:35 AM

It is definitely a different /alternative universe or God know what cause even though paths cross and our islanders mingle and know each other somehow in this ATL (alternative time line)everything about them is different, their personalities, their perspectives in life, etc... Ben a schoiol teacher? Ethan a nice Dr.? Obviously the writers have something surprising in mind, could it be two different endings???

#27. Posted by: mapache at February 17, 2010 1:39 AM

@5. Posted by: Crispy Seaplanes

I think many will agree that this was much better than last week!
Good old Ben! Admits that he murdered Locke (awesome the way he did it), but still lies about how Jacob died. I would not like to play poker against this man!

@11. Posted by: KD

Looking forward to the HD folks that will analyze the cave footage.

@14. Posted by: Mizzed

3 posts later, and the analysis is already in the works! Good stuff!

@16. Posted by: Bushhound2

I too started to think about Jacob and his lists. On hydra island, didn't some Others also say someone else was not on the list? Who was it?

@22. Posted by: Wyatt

The island as a jail seems plausible. Looking forward to when we find out why/how Jacob was able to leave/return.

@24. Posted by: Steve

There are custom cars whose acceleration and brakes are controlled by hand.

#28. Posted by: shikotee at February 17, 2010 1:48 AM

Wow, what an episode! The alternate world finally interested me with a fantastic Locke story that had the same themes with a different veneer. Fake Locke was manipulating Sawyer back on the island, and we finally learned what the numbers are for—as long as we believe Fake Locke.

Review of the episode on my blog:

#29. Posted by: TV Obsessed. at February 17, 2010 2:00 AM

Interesting to note that while discussing wedding plans, Helen suggests they just invite her parents and Locke's dad. Does this mean Papa Locke isn't a kidney-thieving conman in this alternate reality?

If that's the case, then there's no father/son conflict of the I'm-going-to-push-you-out-a-window-thus-breaking-your-spine variety. And if THAT'S the case, how did Locke end up in the wheelchair??

#30. Posted by: JJ at February 17, 2010 3:01 AM

Great Review!

Just a quick observation: Darlton announced (recently on Jimmy Kimmel) that the finale is set to air on May 23. Could that 23 be a reference to Jack?

#31. Posted by: Omom at February 17, 2010 4:44 AM

Great Review!

Just a quick observation: Darlton announced (recently on Jimmy Kimmel) that the finale is set to air on May 23. Could that 23 be a reference to Jack?

#32. Posted by: Omom at February 17, 2010 4:45 AM

Observation: Helen said that the wedding was in October, this confirms that Claire's ultra sound we saw last week had a mistaken date of 10/22/04 (production error - which is what I suspected). The events we watched last night (Locke losing his job, Hugo talking to him, Rose giving him a job, etc.) happened sometime between 9/22/04 and 9/30/04.

Observation: did you notice Helen's shirt? Peace & Karma

Opinion: Jacob is the little boy we see. Arron is only 3 years old, so it's not him. Plus Aaron is in LA with his granny.

#33. Posted by: Skipper at February 17, 2010 4:55 AM

#5. Posted by: Crispy Seaplanes
What made John qualified to teach? Does he have a degree in education?
You don’t need a teaching degree to sub. Only need a Bachelor’s degree in any field. Interesting that he ended up being a “substitute”, the title of the episode. Who is the substitute on the island?

#9. Posted by: Will
Scooping the ash: Pouring ash around the cabin, in the jungle -- Jacob has died and been burned before? The kid is a reincarnation.
If Jacob is going to be reincarnated each time he dies, then why does he need a successor? There were plenty of child emperors and kings in history. Plus, if Jacob is just going to end up reincarnated, why did MIB even bother to go to allllll this trouble (FDW, Ben, Locke, etc. etc. all that he had to do…) to kill him?

#24. Posted by: Steve
All I want to know is this... How the heck does Locke drive? If he can't walk and is stuck in a wheelchair, how'd he just whip home from the airport, and get back and forth to work? Is there something about driving while handicapped that I just don't know of?
they make modified cars for handicapped people. Yes, they can drive.

#34. Posted by: Skipper at February 17, 2010 5:02 AM

I don't think Flocke is satan, because of the reference to 'I was once a man'. Satan was an angel, not a man.

Well, of course there are all manners of lesser imps and demons, Pete, but the great Satan himself is red, scaly, has a bifurcated tail and he carries a hayfork.

#35. Posted by: SnakeJake at February 17, 2010 6:08 AM

I don't think Flocke is satan, because of the reference to 'I was once a man'. Satan was an angel, not a man.

Well, of course there are all manners of lesser imps and demons, Pete, but the great Satan himself is red, scaly, has a bifurcated tail and he carries a hayfork.

#36. Posted by: SnakeJake at February 17, 2010 6:09 AM

Was Sawyer ever in charge of entering the numbers at the hatch? I don't remember any scene of him doing it, but if he did, then he will probably make the connection between the numbers in the screen with the numbers in the cave.

If Hurley sees the cave, he will think those names are "bad luck".

#37. Posted by: phg at February 17, 2010 6:37 AM

Is it me, or did this episode raise new questions about the entire alt timeline. Not only do we (presumably) not know how Locke ended up in a wheelchair, but there seem to be changes in events we have seen in previous seasons' flashbacks, notably that Locke and Helen have not broken up. And when Kate asks Claire last week, "Would you believe me if I said I was innocent," who knows, maybe someone else killed her stepdad and she has been falsely accused.

Also, interesting to see how many times the Losties (plus Ben and Ethan) are crossing paths in the alt timeline. Are we going to see them reunite on Flocke Airways Flight 2342?

#38. Posted by: Scooby-Dude at February 17, 2010 6:46 AM

If Hurley sees the cave, he will think those names are "bad luck".
#37. Posted by: phg

Would love to see Hurley climb down that ladder.

#39. Posted by: Skipper at February 17, 2010 6:52 AM

I wonder if Flock is going to convince Sawyer to turn the FDW?! How are they gonna get out of that cave? more tunnels? When they were walking, I thought Sawyer was going to kill Flock just like Des killed Kelvin. It really reminded me of that scene.

#40. Posted by: Skipper at February 17, 2010 6:55 AM

Water, Earth, Wind and Fire; classic elements.

The simplest essential parts and principles of which anything consists or upon which the constitution and fundamental powers of anything are based. they are important elements Japanese, Buddhist, Chinese, Hindu, Greek, etc. teachings.

If the Ice tea Jacuzzi is linked to Jacob, then maybe he's in charge of all water, even the sea. which is why MIB can't just swim or sail off the island. He's also in charge of wind - keeping MIB low to the ground and unable to fly over the sonic fence or to another island for that matter. Direction of the wind also brought the black rock to the island and was responsible for the turbulence that crashed flight 815.

MIB might be in charge of Fire, since he takes the form of smoke. And he also gets to be in charge of Earth since he lives/travels through tunnels.

why would they split up the elements between the two? no idea - unless they were once the same person and got separated.

#41. Posted by: Skipper at February 17, 2010 7:08 AM

To clarify my own comment @38, what I'm suggesting is the alt timeline started much much earlier than flight 815 -- days, months, years, decades, who knows? And that calls into question whether a lot of the flashbacks we've seen did occur in the alt timeline.

No Shannon on 815 pretty much proves that the alt timeline started before 815. Hurley being successful means he didn't experience all that bad luck in the time period (months?) before going to Australia (and why did he go to Australia in the first place -- to buy the term "outback"?)

Oh, and one small thing: Helen is dead, or at least Abaddon "revealed" to Locke that Helen had died earlier in 2004.

#42. Posted by: Scooby-Dude at February 17, 2010 7:23 AM

The differences in the alt timeline have to be because the island was destroyed and Jacob haas not come to touch each of them and push them toward coming to the island. So many of the major events in their lives are different becaause Jacob was not there influencing them.

#43. Posted by: Crispy Seaplanes at February 17, 2010 7:27 AM

I thought it interesting that Jack was number 23. Psalm 23 begins with "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want". I looked at Psalms 4, 8, 15, 16 and 42 as well and there may be some connections with everyone else too. Psalm 4 seems to reflect Locke as it starts with a plea "Answer me when I call to you, O my righteous God. Give me relief from my distress; be merciful to me and hear my prayer." Locke was always looking for answers. Coincidence?

#44. Posted by: Tim at February 17, 2010 7:40 AM

Does Flocke/Smokey's comment about being trapped refer to him being physically attached to the island and thus needing to be unattached before he can leave, either by FDW or Sub or by traveling at a compass bearing of 325? (Side note: Why has Walt fallen so far off the radar?!) Perhaps he will become untrapped if he is able to manipulate Sawyer to take over as his successor. (Don't worry, though. I'm sure James is planning a long con on Flocke.)

#45. Posted by: Scooby-Dude at February 17, 2010 7:48 AM

I didn't understand a darn thing last night, but I sure enjoyed watching it!

You folks have a good time! Thanks for the recap Mac.

(I sure hope Meg and Cecil can get along from now on . . . It must be Olympic fever that has them staying up late, racing for first place and the "____ is first" Gold Medal!)

So what is the national anthem of the island?

#46. Posted by: davidrh at February 17, 2010 8:01 AM

Was smokey taking the form of Christian Shepard? -- Not sure on this one. I think that he was "infected" like Claire and the Reasseau team and working with the MIB.

Did it seem that in the Smokey perspective that he was able to hop between different locations, at on point zooming around the jungle then popping into Dharmaville?

#47. Posted by: Theoldred29 at February 17, 2010 8:20 AM

As always...thanks for a great review Mac!!

#6. Posted by: csmithfdub I'm still not convinced that Flocke is the man in black.

I'm pretty certain Flocke is the MIB based primarily on what I thought was the best line last night when Flocke threw the white stone on the scale into the ocean and replied to Sawyer about that being an "inside joke". I laughed out loud!!!!

#15. Posted by: Stock

I also thought that the mysterious boy in the jungle could be Aaron. (Remember how big Walt looked when John Locke met him on the street corner...?)

Only 3 episodes into this season, I really wished I had done what I wanted to do prior to the beginning of Season 6...and that was to watch all the episodes again starting with Season 1.

Also, found interesting, when watching the enhanced episode of "What Kate Does", one of Locke's "bubbles" referenced back to Locke and Walt's backgammon game and the comparison of the "white and black" side. Tying it all back together...

Another observation for the "sideways" alt timeline. Seems as if there are some who's lives are slightly different/better than before they crashed. Hurley is not cursed and very successful having invested his lottery winnings in different businesses and endevours. Locke lives with and is engaged to Helen (although still in a wheelchair) and has come to terms with his injury. Rose comes to terms with her cancer and instead of searching for that miracle, is content with making the most of the time she has. Boone has no problems with leaving Shannon in Australia in her current "unhappy" relationship vs his "need" to save and rescue her due to "feelings" he had for her. Then there's the others...Jack's dad is still dead and worse off now since he's been "misplaced". Kate is still in handcuffs and going to jail. Charlie is still the drug addict destined for either jail or coffin... Sun and Jin still are uncomfortable together...Jin telling Sun to button her top button of her sweater...and also throwing in more turmoil with all the money smuggling issues... Can't really gauge what's up with Sawyer in the alt he still a con...? Did killing the wrong man in Australia straighten him up...? Just wondering...

#48. Posted by: Boodle at February 17, 2010 8:30 AM

Much better episode.

Great job on the high-def cave ceiling recap. No Kate? Veeeeeerrrrry interesting...

Somehow I suspect if Sawyer had fallen off the cliff face Flocky (Fake Locke + Smoky) would've crossed off Ford and just gone after the next "substitute."

Just throwin' this out there...When Locke was substitute teaching and he stopped a kid to ask where 's the teacher's lounge...was that kid supposed to be a bit off a shout-out to Walt? I mean, he asked a black boy...he could've asked a Chinese girl or a grown-up, so...

Don't know what kind of whiskey Sawyer was drinking but he sure seemed to sober up fast.

Cool and controlled Richard running away like a frightened schoolgirl? Priceless.

#49. Posted by: ransomjackson at February 17, 2010 8:36 AM

If the alt timeline is about what would happen if the plane landed safely, why would that effect Ben or Ethan? They would have already been living on the island as the plane flew over. They never went to the island because of 813 right?

#50. Posted by: sadrhino at February 17, 2010 8:42 AM

Have been here since the beginning and for me this is the BEST tv show i have ever been for a ride on. Few quirkly observations:
1)Man does Hugo look boss in his suit with those sideburns and smile.
2)What is up w/that spooky goofy chick that was interviewing Locke at the temp agency?
3)In alt time did you hear Locke's alarm clock. Sounded the same as when the numbers needed to be entered in the computer, anybody else hear that?
4)And this is the best. Almost a Sharon Stone moment w/Sawyer in his undershorts. Woohoo! Sorry iloveben.... but Sawyer is the thing that sexual fantasies are for. Love that man.
Just rewatched and i agree that last weeks episode was "fodder", this week was WOW.

#51. Posted by: PegLegRider at February 17, 2010 8:43 AM

Just a thought about smokey. When he moves you hear the metalic sound, Like the clinking of slave chains. Maybe those are what keeps him chained to the island and why he couldn't completely leave the ground to jump the sonic fence.

#52. Posted by: S. W. Confused at February 17, 2010 8:43 AM

Anybody else notice that Locke's alarm sounded like the "1 minute" countdown warning from the hatch?

#53. Posted by: GatorGal at February 17, 2010 8:50 AM

oops forgot @24, yes they have hand controls for handicapped car drivers and i (see my name) have one leg but still ride my Harley. Modifications make it possible for us to do all things - except be Jacobs replacement

#54. Posted by: PegLegRider at February 17, 2010 8:50 AM

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