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trustno1
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posted 08-14-2000 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trustno1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
`This is the place to talk about Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes remake.

You can also keep up on the latest news on the movie's spotlight page:

The Planet of the Apes spotlight page

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Xirmanon
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posted 08-09-2001 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xirmanon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can anyone explain how the ending worked in the remake of planet of the apes? it just didnt make sense to me.

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xedout
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posted 08-10-2001 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xedout     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This must be the third "Apes" thread here!

I don't think the ending is supposed to make complete sense. There are possibilities - it could be an alternate Earth; the time shift at the end kept the evolutionary pattern of the apes rising instead of humans (don't know if Leo managed to duplicate the identical event horizon to get back); because he didn't kill Thade, time and space was put on that course. All in all, there really wasn't enough in the last scene to come up with something concrete.

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ego
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posted 08-27-2001 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ego     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found a funny Apes article here... enjoy!
http://www.gorskys.com.au/articles/alternative-planet-apes.html

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Thade's Destiny
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posted 07-12-2002 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thade's Destiny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ending: One Possible Explainer

Totally bizarre and confusing endings are pure gold!! It's fun to figure out!

Anyway, here is my BEST (simplest) explanation (I have many ideas). Mark crashed on a planet (not Earth!) in the far future. The time anomale sent the monkey farthest, Mark earlier, and the main ship earliest (but all in the future). The ship went very far behind Mark and monkey in the timeline. It crashed on the Planet, they had to survive, mutant-smart apes were kind of like servants at first. One ape rebelled, and killed a bunch of humans. The smart apes claimed the towns, farms, food and whatever else they built while surviving humans fled and lived in the wild, apart from the now dominant apes. Mark lands much later on this Planet, after several generations.

The Ending. Mark's very selfish desire to go home was the KEY CAUSE of the disaster. If he stayed and took responsibility, as he SHOULD HAVE, Thade never could have took over. Without Mark's leadership or presence (a powerful figure, was he), the human-ape equality fell apart very quickly, and Thade would once again lead on that planet. Thade, through dictatorship, controls everything. The technology Mark foolishly left behind would be learnt by the apes and their intelligence/civilization would grow in leaps and bounds. One day they would have powerful ships and armies. Thade is famous at this point, known as the saviour of ape kind, having defeated the evil humans and their leader Mark long ago (HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS -- this is KEY). Anyhow, Thade takes a Lincoln role in this Planet's history, all false and based on lies, but eventually they become technologically advanced and know of Earth (because of Thade) and of the evil humans that enslave apes on Earth (Thade's view of things in the history books dominates). The society's goal is to free their Earth-Ape Brothers. They enter the time portal with a FLEET OF SHIPS and make their way to past Earth, perhaps 25-75 years before poor Mark gets there. The powerful apes conquer Earth with little effort, and cities remain intact for the Apes to colonize/take over. Earth becomes a colony for this Ape Empire, and that is why the same structures exist. The apes simply stole planet Earth from the humans, knocked down Lincoln's statue in Washington, and replaced it with the image of the great General Thade from their history books, and he is given indirect credit for the freeing of apes on this world (Earth). When Mark arrives, the Ape Cops look at him with hatred, not surprise, as they know full well of humans (ie. as apes have been in rule for less than 50 years, human history prior to the Ape Invasion remains intact). EVERYTHING IS MARK'S FAULT. He should never have left that planet. Thade was a brilliant politician and ruthless. NO HUMAN REMAINING COULD RIVAL HIM. He was able to put his spin on things, confuse everyone, and without Mark to set everyone straight, they would all fall under Thade's influence quite quickly. Mark could have stayed until the VERY SHAKY new beginning (peace between apes and humans) became stronger. I would imagine Thade had a very easy time of things with Mark out of the picture. Oh well, maybe Mark will find a good home in a zoo or something.

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ckoeditz
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posted 03-16-2004 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ckoeditz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a great analogy, but impossible. When entering the atmosphere of the planet at the end of the movie, the computer states that he is entering Earth's orbit. Plus the clincher: the first planet had two moons and the last one had one. These could not possibly be the same planet.


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Originally posted by Thade's Destiny:
The Ending: One Possible Explainer

Totally bizarre and confusing endings are pure gold!! It's fun to figure out!

Anyway, here is my BEST (simplest) explanation (I have many ideas). Mark crashed on a planet (not Earth!) in the far future. The time anomale sent the monkey farthest, Mark earlier, and the main ship earliest (but all in the future). The ship went very far behind Mark and monkey in the timeline. It crashed on the Planet, they had to survive, mutant-smart apes were kind of like servants at first. One ape rebelled, and killed a bunch of humans. The smart apes claimed the towns, farms, food and whatever else they built while surviving humans fled and lived in the wild, apart from the now dominant apes. Mark lands much later on this Planet, after several generations.

The Ending. Mark's very selfish desire to go home was the KEY CAUSE of the disaster. If he stayed and took responsibility, as he SHOULD HAVE, Thade never could have took over. Without Mark's leadership or presence (a powerful figure, was he), the human-ape equality fell apart very quickly, and Thade would once again lead on that planet. Thade, through dictatorship, controls everything. The technology Mark foolishly left behind would be learnt by the apes and their intelligence/civilization would grow in leaps and bounds. One day they would have powerful ships and armies. Thade is famous at this point, known as the saviour of ape kind, having defeated the evil humans and their leader Mark long ago (HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE VICTORS -- this is KEY). Anyhow, Thade takes a Lincoln role in this Planet's history, all false and based on lies, but eventually they become technologically advanced and know of Earth (because of Thade) and of the evil humans that enslave apes on Earth (Thade's view of things in the history books dominates). The society's goal is to free their Earth-Ape Brothers. They enter the time portal with a FLEET OF SHIPS and make their way to past Earth, perhaps 25-75 years before poor Mark gets there. The powerful apes conquer Earth with little effort, and cities remain intact for the Apes to colonize/take over. Earth becomes a colony for this Ape Empire, and that is why the same structures exist. The apes simply stole planet Earth from the humans, knocked down Lincoln's statue in Washington, and replaced it with the image of the great General Thade from their history books, and he is given indirect credit for the freeing of apes on this world (Earth). When Mark arrives, the Ape Cops look at him with hatred, not surprise, as they know full well of humans (ie. as apes have been in rule for less than 50 years, human history prior to the Ape Invasion remains intact). EVERYTHING IS MARK'S FAULT. He should never have left that planet. Thade was a brilliant politician and ruthless. NO HUMAN REMAINING COULD RIVAL HIM. He was able to put his spin on things, confuse everyone, and without Mark to set everyone straight, they would all fall under Thade's influence quite quickly. Mark could have stayed until the VERY SHAKY new beginning (peace between apes and humans) became stronger. I would imagine Thade had a very easy time of things with Mark out of the picture. Oh well, maybe Mark will find a good home in a zoo or something.


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