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trustno1
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posted 08-14-2000 05:05 PM
  
This is the place to talk about Terminator 3.You can also keep up on the latest news on the movie's spotlight page: Terminator 3 spotlight page
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leia
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posted 08-17-2000 09:24 PM
I love Arnold; I'm sick of the Terminator. Can't Hollywood do something original??IP: Logged |
xedout
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posted 08-19-2000 12:57 AM
It's easier to finance a film/concept with a proven track record. If a studio is going to put up $150 million to film it (assuming Ah-nold gets about $10-20 million to star in it) they want to recoup their investment with a star and something that makes money. The movie then ceases to become a movie and turns into a franchise. 99 billion served and counting.IP: Logged |
trustno1
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posted 08-19-2000 10:44 PM
Xed I hate to say this, but I think your estimate on Arnie's salary is low. For "Batman & Robin" he received $25 million and I would think he'd get at least that much for another Terminator movie. IP: Logged |
xedout
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posted 08-20-2000 01:15 AM
$20 million would be nothing to sneeze at. Not like Arnie has done anything that's done gangbusters at the theatres lately. T3 might be a little different - but if he gets $30 million plus to do that (and we may be talking that he speaks 2000 words at most - I'm thinking like 500) it sets a precedent for all other actors to want more cash. And the studios are not going to pay, and the audience is not going to see the show if movies go up to $20 to pay the star's salary - we're already at $11 at some theatres here. The studio might put up the $200 million or so to make the movie (that boggles the noggin) but they'll want a massive return on their investment. Or they'll offer him profit sharing instead of a huger than huge salary - a nice figure of $20 million plus maybe 2-5% gross. I guess it comes down to the story - if it stinks, people won't pay and won't care. Arnie will still be rich.IP: Logged |
leia
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posted 10-16-2000 12:34 AM
I didn't buy the whole thing Linda Hamilton supposedly said--about not signing onto T3 unless her bastard cheating ex directed it. Doesn't the woman have any self-respect? If it's true, then no. But this thing with her twin sister could be pretty interesting. Not to mention, it could cause some family friction. IP: Logged |
Kattekitt
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posted 01-01-2001 04:08 AM
It would be interesting if they got her twin to act the part.... Has she been in any thing other than her cameo in T2? cause I don't recall any thing...... I think Linda should pull her finger out, and just do it!! stuff being stereo- typed, too late!! the movies she has made since, are not going to stop people thinking of her as Sarah Connor!! so I don't know, what do you all think??Kattekitt... IP: Logged |
Wolfie
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posted 01-01-2001 12:57 PM
i personally wouldn't want to work for my ex hubby who cheated on me either. unless i could foil the movie and make it a totall bomb at the box office...W~ ------------------
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Kattekitt
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posted 01-01-2001 05:51 PM
I was under the impression that she wouldn't do T3 WITHOUT her ex-hubby!! Go figure!! and since Cameron is having nothing to do with the T3 movie, I presume she is following suit!! I think that was a poor excuse...She just doesn't want to do it!! because she doesn't want to be stereotyped!! weird lady!!blah blah blah whah whah whah!!
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posted 07-18-2001 10:29 PM
*sigh*
I wish they'd get a better writing team on the story. The plot is thinner than tissue paper.
I'll bet they're changing the story to copy the the FanFiction stories online without paying the REAL writers. Some of them are really talented, but of course Hollywood's in-crowd is too snobby to just buy one of the stories legally, and treat up-and-coming writers with respect.
Check out Daniel Perez's work on Terminator 3: Armageddon, or Terminator 3: No Fate, by an anonymous donor. Both are better than the movie will probably be anyway.------------------
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CorpJosh
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posted 11-16-2001 09:01 AM
Um..I've read Daniel Perez' script and it is by far more horrible than any cheesy B-industry film on Earth. It's along the line of Romero's first works and that is not what true Termiantor fans want. He can go to hell with his delusional conspiracy crap for all I care.You want good fan fiction writers who can actually format the right way go to simplyscripts.com and look for Jack Bullions or Ross Cooper. Their projects are FAR superior than T3 Armageddon. [This message has been edited by CorpJosh (edited 11-16-2001).] IP: Logged |
Demifreak
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posted 12-06-2001 10:11 AM
In my opinion, there is NO other female is this world that could play a female terminator, than DEMI MOORE! Demi has everything: the looks, the bod, the star power, the voice. Just imaginging her and Arnold alongside is awesome. She is tough as nails and freaking sexy! NO ONE ELSE! Famke Janssen-is a loser (Ever see Don't Say a Word?) Carrie Anne Moss-just because you are in Matrix, doesn't mean NOTHIN', Peta Wilson-NO Body! Come on Guys! Back me up on this and seriously envision Demi in this movie. HARDCOREIP: Logged |
terminatorfan
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posted 05-11-2002 01:14 PM
My, my all this hostility toward a film that hasn't even been released yet. I think it'll be worth it to at least wait till it comes out before we start making judgments. It probably won't be as good as the first two, but that doesn't mean it'll be terrible either.I'm willing to lay a bet that Arnie will make the movie work, even w/o Cameron and Hamilton. Let's have faith in our Austrian bodybuilder. ------------------
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trustno1
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posted 05-13-2002 11:02 AM
I think it's safe to have some faith in director Jonathan Mostow as well. Both "Breakdown" and "U-571" were well-crafted, tense thrillers. Frankly, I think he can do a better job than Cameron.IP: Logged |
mattyrb
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posted 08-20-2002 05:11 AM
terminator 3 - "i'll be back to milk the format"Stupid idea, very stupid, i think they should stop production before they mess up a very good 2 part trilogy.....we don't want another starwars milking session! without the orignal director, cast and script writers this film is set to be sh*t before its even been released! IP: Logged |
RaNciD x RioTz
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posted 10-19-2002 11:37 PM
grr... T3 isn't a T3 without Edward furlong and Linda Hamilton. Christ, i can't believe they're replacing Ed Furlong for some unknown dude that played in only one unknown movie! this blows...a bunch. I hope they realize that by not starring the original cast of part 1 & 2 they just f**ked it all up. dude.......FVCK!!!!IP: Logged |
mgribler
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posted 10-21-2002 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by leia:
I love Arnold; I'm sick of the Terminator. Can't Hollywood do something original??
Oh dear, Why won't hollywood take risks and do something original? Because it is a risk - it culd bomb or , god forbid be a cult movie. The producers know there is a market for the Terminator franchise - like Rocky, Police Academy 900, Star Wars or that crap about Starship Enterprise. Because Hollywood is run by unimaginative business people without a creative bone in their body. They just care about their (sagging) bottom lines.
If I have to watch any more shit at the cinema. I will go live Micheal Douglas in falling down! I will go on a serach and destroy mission for the bastard critics who describe the studio's shit lovingly. Anyhow live long get facelifts take the crap that you produce seriously and prosper. IP: Logged |
mgribler
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posted 10-21-2002 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by mgribler:
Oh dear,Why won't hollywood take risks and do something original? Because it is a risk - it culd bomb or , god forbid be a cult movie. The producers know there is a market for the Terminator franchise - like Rocky, Police Academy 900, Star Wars or that crap about Starship Enterprise. Because Hollywood is run by unimaginative business people without a creative bone in their body. They just care about their (sagging) bottom lines.
If I have to watch any more shit at the cinema. I will go live Micheal Douglas in falling down! I will go on a serach and destroy mission for the bastard critics who describe the studio's shit lovingly. Anyhow live long get facelifts take the crap that you produce seriously and prosper.
sorry I forgot although AS does a robot well (lets be honest a robot SHOULD have a German accent) a robot dosen't age (I bet Arnie wishes he were the same). The problem is that T2 was a brilliant and original film (like the Godfather it was better than the original). T3 will be like the Godfather 3 - a cynical money making exercise. I hope I am pleasantly surprised. IP: Logged |
swbb
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posted 07-02-2003 04:15 PM
AWESOME MOVIE, BABY!!!!
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nycundaground
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posted 07-03-2003 10:42 AM
DemiFreak, i totally agree with u, Demi Moore should have been the female terminator. I mean. They lost most of the main characters like LInda and the original John o COnnor from T2. So adding some major star power and the hottest brunette alive would have hyped up T3 more. The plot and storyline was pretty much crap. No good acting seen in stupid Nick Stahl and Claire Danes. IM not gay or anything but i thought that the john o connor in T2 Looked better then the John in T3.
But i believe a great movie needs to have a great director behind it like James Cameron. Honestly before seeing T3, i watched T2 on my computer and after comparing both movies they shouldnt even have made T3 before seriously casting the original actress and actors. But seriously, Next time they do T4 they really need to cover that hairline of Arnold and apply more makeup because he was more kick ass when he was younger. Next time i believe Arnold will be the evil Terminator, excited to see how he kills John O Connor. IP: Logged |
jinxDC
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posted 07-03-2003 11:32 AM
I was disappointed after seeing this. It was a great story - the basis of it at least. But it wasn't developed nearly enough. The characters were shallow, plots were revealed just through dialog instead of showing us, for example. I thought John Conner was ok - I think the problem was that they didn't develop his character enough. The movie was too short, things were just touched on. It was more like a short story they made into a movie. I'm sure they figured it would get a lot of hype and make a lot of money to continue with the next stories. So, regardless, I'm anxiously awaiting the next Terminator to see where they go with the story. I wish they would have developed more how this skynet was developed. I mean, supposedly in T2 they destroyed everything from Cyberdine, leaving no trace of chips or info about the terminators. Then amazingly in this T3, the terminators are still developed, with the same format and looking exactly the same. I realize they had to look the same to have Arnold in the movie, but I think it is a stretch. The movie makers could have come up with a way to explain how it all still came to be. But it was presented just as fact. What did everyone else think? Let's get some people in here talking about it! IP: Logged |
XamTheProphet
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posted 07-04-2003 04:17 AM
Well, I just saw the movie today. I thought that on the whole it was ok....I was expecting a summer quick cash movie, but it wasn't that bad...Personally the only letdown was that the T-X isn't as cool or really as effective as the T-1000, why didn't they just bring him back! He was cool. Your views on the T-X vs T-1000 are aprecieted.IP: Logged |
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posted 07-11-2003 11:04 PM
Hi jinxDC, saw your posting & correct me if i'm wrong but i believe in T2, something did survive to probably give a possibility of a sequel although the film guys didn't use that...if you can recall in T2, in one of the final scene, Arnold tore off his arm to save teenage John Connor as he was about to get off-ed by the T1000. could that ripped off arm have survived?! hmmm...
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posted 07-20-2003 02:29 AM
terminator 3 was pathetic. i was looking forward to seeing a third terminator movie for years now and then i saw rise of the machines and it was the biggest disapointment. the terminator was the butt of every joke, they barely explored the TX's capabilities, and for some odd reason sarah connor is dead. i know linda hamilton didn't want agree to star in it but why just kill her off? the deleted scene in T2 where john conner teaches the terminator to smile was taken from the theatrical release of T2 because james cameron felt that it was affecting the terminator's strength and it made him look stupid. in T3 he is mocked and made fun off at every turn. from the opening scene you know that this isn't a cameron film, and thats a damn shame. of course T3 does have its finer points, the almost parallel scenes that reflect those images cast by james cameron in T2, for example the car chase scene when arnie gets into the fire truck and pushes the driver out (t-1000 does that). its filmed at almost the same angles as T3, a suttle nod to cameron and T2.i'm glad i know more about the story obviously but i'm not happy at all by the way it was executed. [This message has been edited by dimebag (edited 07-20-2003).] IP: Logged |
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posted 07-27-2003 09:59 AM
I came across this book back in 2001 written by an author I have not heard of, S. M. Stirling who wrote the book T2 INFILTRATOR and immediately I was hooked on this book because it started where Judgement Day ended in 1995… (The film was 1991 but was set in1995) Skynet is gone no Cyberdyne because the building has been destroyed and all data relating to the Terminator technology has gone…?After reading the book I thought this would make an awesome film as long as they keep to the script and it’s produced by James Cameron and staring Arnie and Linda Hamilton are all in the film again fighting to save humanity from the destruction of mankind. My initial reaction to the fact they were making another terminator film was great until I got hold of a copy of the script and found out they had completely re-wrote the script and the plot of the book to their own version of events. Do not expect to hear that awesome music from the first two films which every teenager who seen the first film back in the eighties tried to copy on their keyboard which really made the film more exciting. Do not expect this film to be like the other two films because it’s not… Why you ask well here is the reason why I feel it hard to even rate this film with two stars it was that awful I nearly walked out of the cinema that’s how bad the film was… I was cringing with horror at the whole film. It looks like the Director and producer spent the entire budget on the visual and special effects along with the props…? The film lacks character and charisma tippled with a poor script and story line which is not enough to keep the audience interested in the film. The first 30 minutes of the film is confusing which looses the audiences grip on the film and looses interest straight away. There is a scene where there is a twenty minute car chase which is both pointless and a complete waste of time which looks like most of the budget also went on this car chase as well as the special effects. Trust me your better of spending the money on buying the book instead of wasting your money going to the pictures watching this poor excuse for a sequel to Terminator 2 Judgement Day. This is a honest review of the film and I still stand my ground that this film will flop… It will make money don’t get me wrong but it will still flop… A film can still make loads of money and still not be a box office hit… Thank you for you time ladies and gentlemen
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posted 07-31-2003 08:06 PM
I know my opinion don't mean shit. But I thought this movie was more than I had expected. The story was taken in interesting directions, from hinting at the future John Connor's close circle of lieutenents (Connor himself couldn't train all, and lead every assault raised against the machines), the presence of Kate as his wife and mother of his future *important* children, skynet as a virus not a system core, and the inevitability of time. Maybe the reason why the machines continue to send terminators back to destroy those who may rise against them is because, although they are artificially intelligent, they do not possess human intelligence which attempts to put reason to facts. Sarah Connor dead was a good move. She would only have been in this film to shoot guns and get into trouble. Her story arc was completed in T2, and Cameron knew it. The original two stories were simple ideas, and to keep things fresh the new script has needed to look outside the boundaries of the Cameron story. The reason Cameron didn't want to do this movie was because he had no story to tell. It was just about the prevention of Judgement Day and keeping the saviour of mankind alive to lead a rebellion if Judgement Day occurred. Also a nice touch- Kate sending back the same T101 which terminated John Connor in the future, although the explanation doesn't hold up for me! A battle hardened leader would not let a production line T101 looking like arnold anywhere near him, even if he had found memories of the odd high five back in the Nineties. He'd be savvy to that one, I assure you. All in all a good stab at it Mostow. A touch short by 15 minutes. Maybe the DVD will have a few deleted sequences.IP: Logged |
biffta
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posted 08-01-2003 08:52 AM
Being a very big fan of the first two films I must say, in contrast to the majority of feeling across this board, I thought T3 was excellent!
I mean what are you guys really complaining about? So what Cameron didnt direct it and so what that there were lots of cheesy onliners???
The general bad feelings across the board are that T3 did not stick the the same rules as T2, but why the hell should it? Sure they Could have made T3 to be almost identical to the second but then you guys would probably be complaining that there wasnt enough "new" ideas!
I think what the real problem here is that almost everyone here would have watched T2 about 10-12 years ago. Now think about it, you were a lot younger then, more impressionable maybe, more easily impressed? I know I was, and I didnt lose sight of that why watching T3.
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Trilogy
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posted 08-01-2003 10:07 AM
Positively surprised.These are the 2 words that can describe how i felt when i left the cinema.
I did expect that T3 would look much like T2 and would fall the victim of the past 2 movies cliches. Not very dramatic like the second, not so "light" like the first,it truly offers a balance between the two movies.
Its script is new and fresh and provides information about the eminent victory of humans over the machines. More importantly Arnie seems as good as ever and the TX looks very fearsome.We all knew that this is the 3rd movie of the series and the scenario could be tiresome if not taken care of.
I don't know if there will be a T4 but i don't know if arnold is getting any younger either. A fourth movie without Arnold (!!!) may be the alternative to answer all the little questions but this may destroy the truly brilliant trilogy.
Because cheeziness and repetition were avoided T3 is the result and it was excellent! How would i rate them?T1- 8. Strong story, original but poor special effects by today's standards T2- 10. Still the best terminator movie including story, effects and music. T3- 9. A very good film somewhere in between T1 and T3. New script, realistic special effects (not like all matrix clones), and BRILLIANT end. T4- ??? Is it really necessary? If it is done it is likely to transfer the struggle in the post judgment day earth and show how Connor leads the resistance and wins. However this REALLY transfers the action to another scenery, somewhat similar to the ANIMATRIX's second story. Hmmmm [This message has been edited by Trilogy (edited 08-01-2003).] [This message has been edited by Trilogy (edited 08-01-2003).] IP: Logged |
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posted 08-11-2003 01:58 AM
ALL YOU BASTARDS NEEDD TO STOP HATING ON TERMINATOR 3 THAT MOVIES WAS GOOD JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER TERMINATOR MOVIES YOU GUYS ARE JUST SAYING IT WAS BAD CAUSE WHEN YOU WENT TO GO SEE THE OTHER TERMINATOR MOVIES YOU WERE YOUNG LITTLE DUMBASSES AND YOU GOT MORE EXITED OVER THINGSIP: Logged |
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posted 09-18-2003 05:18 AM
Er excuse me....but I half agree with your opinion cripple my good man, firstly Terminator 3 is a "Balls out" free for all which continues the story fairly well and includes quite an interesting ending, fairly similar to that of "Planet of the Apes" would you not say? Secondly yes I agree that most people here were snotty little kids when the first one arrived and most probably shit their pants when arnie removed his own eyeball,in fact they wouldn't have even understood the story so when T2 arrived the pre-pubescent ignoramus's based the quality of the movie on the very fact that they were even allowed to see it, that alone meant it was the dogs bollocks Lastly and sadly when the third one finally arrived they were left wondering what the fuck these movies were all about in the first place and could do nothing else but criticise them! Granted...T3 is not the best sequel ever and it is not as good as the first two but it's good old fashioned action movie entertainment!! The I.T. Guy IP: Logged |
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posted 10-29-2003 08:01 AM
I WROTE THE PLOT FOR TERMINATOR 4: Rage Against the Machine
An evil terminator comes from the future sent by Skynet to kill John Connor, a man that will lead the humans into victory and all that shit. A less advanced model is sent by humans to protect him, played by Arnie. John is not a leader yet, but a rebellious punk. The Terminators arrive naked at the same time. Arnold gets his clothes from a bar, and finds john at the exactly same time as the villain. They get in a big car chase. The villain is very cold and scary looking, and can heal its wounds immediately for its made of liquid metal. It also likes to hang from the good guys car and imitate their voices. The good guys hide in the country, where they get guns and Arnold explains stuff. Then they figure out a way to stop skynet. They attack the base. Arnold and the bad guy fight pushing each other trough walls and shit and they both die. And now all I have to do is think of some stupid “to be continued” ending and half the people in Terminator Forums won't realize they've seen this movie twice already, 'cause someone has taken their brains and re-programmed them to come from the future to say stupid shit like. “You guys just don't like it cause it's not from Cameron. I'm a fucking dork”. And that's it. I'm a genius! I have created the “Same-quel!”
Seriously, get a fucking clue. I can't believe that you call yourselves T-fans! If you read any books, comics or even fan fiction about Terminator, you would have found a thousand stories that are far more original than the one in the movie. I COULD HAVE WRITTEN A BETTER SCRIPT, and I think at least half the people in this forum could too. How much this movie S-U-C-K-S? Let me count the ways: 1)The most interesting thing about T2 was that Arnie was a good guy, cause it was NEW and different from the first one. Now they did the same fucking thing, only this time the relationship with John is shallow and flat, and having being best friends and taught eachother the meaning of life and shit, now all they do is argue in a vey sitcom way. “He was the closest thing I had to a father”. Thanks, Captain Obvious! Now I understand T2! That comment alone was as stupid and shallow as the rest of the film. And Stahl being surprised by Arnie not remembering him? You saw him melt in boiling steel!!! I can't believe you, fucking moron, are the future's hope! 2) Nick Stahl sucks. He's supposed to be a leader and is a fucking loser. Edward Furlong as a 10 year kid had more attitude that this toad-looking freak. 3) Claire Danes. Who the fuck is this? What movie is this again? Romeo and Juliet Resurrection? I'm not even going to start comparing her to Linda 'cause I don't think the producers could be stupid enough to think they could replace her, but the reason they pulled out of their asses to put her in the movie are so wrong. The world is going to explode, lets hook up! And what about all the bullshit coincidences? Again, what movie is this? Signs? 4) The terminatrix. I'm not against the terminator being a female (everyone knows that's really the only thing that's different about this film), but I would have expected some bitch from hell and not Britney fucking Spears from the Oops I did it again video! She seems to be a T-1000 beta version cause she doesn't liquify all the way. In fact, the 80's Terminators could be crushed to the shape of a coin and still work (remember the arm?) and now they come with overheating batteries like some fucking buick. Look at this chick: Her only power is her fucking swiss army hand (that she's not suppose to be able to bring from the future, but who cares, nobody remembers that) and the ability to control cars and stuff. Where can I buy an universal remote like? Doesn't anyone realize that's bullshit, even for a sci-fi flick? The part where she talks modem made me wanna kill myself with a spoon (yeah, cause it's dwell and it'll hurt more). And the name? T-X? When did Apple start making Terminators? 5) Talk to the hand. That's so fucking funny. About as funny as Arnold being the Jar-Jar of his own movie. And that scene where he tries to kill John? Did anyone else find that scene so fucking lame that they wished he did it? 6) The ending had a killer tomatoes “we-run-out-of-money” feeling. I mean, did ANYONE find it surprising? I swear I saw it coming an hour earlier and was like “please don't end like this, please don't end like this”. I fucking hate this movie. And the fucking morons who settle for this kinda shit.IP: Logged |
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posted 11-25-2003 01:26 PM
Rise of the Machines is the most intelligent and thought-provoking film I have seen in many years. Clearly the equal to Judgement Day. The absence of Linda Hamilton is regrettable but Claire Danes easily takes on the position of the strong and tough female lead. Nick Stahl is convincing as the haunted adult version of John Connor-mankind's only hope against what is to come. Kristanna Loken makes an even more lethal opponent for Arnold's T-850 than Robert Patrick did as the T-1000 in the last film. Speaking of Arnold Schwarzenegger-he is once again at the height of his powers and is just wonderful as everybody's favorite Terminator. Fantastic script with a shocking conclusion. Humorous monets serve to balance with the serious aspects of the storyline. I give it an 8/10.IP: Logged |
Exploder
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posted 11-26-2003 05:00 PM
Clearly, it is EQUAL to Judgment Day. As in IT IS THE SAME THING. “Claire Danes is strong and tough”. Yeah, that's one mean skinny 20-year old veterinarian. All the times she screamed Oh My God! and run away reminded me of Xena, freakin Warrior Princess. Nick Stahl is convincing as a man haunted by his DYING CAREER. Kristanna is a lethal opponent, since she IS playing Robert Patrick. And Arnold Seinfeld-negger is hilarious as everyone's favorite politician. A fantastic script (Wayans couldn't have pulled this T2 spoof like Mostow did) and a shocking conclusion (you thought Matrix Reloaded's conclusion was crap?). It's really not funny. And for the serious part, yeah, it's clever to make americans afraid of their own weapons of mass destruction. But it's something us non-americans have always felt. So, hey, welcome to my world. Watch Bowling for Columbine or maybe even The Sum of All Fears. Cause if this is the most thought-provoking film you've ever seen, maybe you never saw another movie. Or thought at all.IP: Logged |
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posted 04-25-2004 12:31 PM
I think I might have found a problem with the T3 storyline:If SkyNet, as revealed at the end of the movie, was software on people's personal computers then wouldn't destroying all the cities with nukes be destroying itself. Even if some computers did survive, the humans that run the power plants that power the computers, and the power lines would be down as would the internet. IP: Logged |
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